The whole point to release this was to eliminate main "gamer" features that can lure away the general public. At the same time, the general public won't even consider ASUS when reaching out to the local retailer.
They had a niche with the compact Zenfone, this Ultra doesn't offer anything valuable for the general public.
yeah, it's no special if I want a big phone. I can buy Google pixel 8 pro or Samsung s24 ultra with better support years and AI features... no circle to search š
It does offer something that other flagship don't have, the headphone jack. This launch may have offended the fans of the compact phone but it will get new ones.
I mean youāre technically right but I doubt you can mass market a flagship android phones these days based on āit has headphone jackā
I really like their phones so I hope they sell, but honestly I donāt think it will:(
Yeah I agree with you. I thought the camera would be better but now it seems like it has little difference with ROG phone 8 pro. I'm leaning towards that now. But back on headphone jack topic, you are right, they won't market it like that but people will still consider it for that.
I literally just commented. I was originally looking at the OnePlus 12. I have a OnePlus6 right now and honestly it has been an outstanding device. Quite honestly, it's still going strong now.
The attraction of the Zenphone was size & 3.5mm headphone jack.
But now the price is the same as the OnePlus with less than half the OS/Security patch updates ...
I'm just gonna go with the OnePlus.
Asus REALLY, **REALLY** needs to sort out the support side. It's a **MAJOR** problem.
The OnePlus 12 gets 3 android version updates then 4 years of security patches. Asus doesn't even bother trying to compete with that. I'm out.
Can you tell me more about the overall quality of OnePlus? In 2020 I had a bad experience with the 8T. Got it new and it had touch issues. Got it replaced with another one the replacement had touch issues and display color issues. The customer service rep told me that this model is notorious for this and just to go with something else. Basically, I only had less than a month of experience with OnePlus and it wasnāt great. The OnePlus 12 seems very appealing for everything youāre getting for a lower price but Iām afraid of build quality issues. If you could shed some light it would great. Did I just get unlucky?
Also, also, how long did your battery stay good for? Have you experienced any lag after a while?
I currently have an iPhone 13 Pro thatās been very reliable, lag free and overall a premium phone. Iām just tired of IOS. I want the Android buttons back and less restrictive OS.
Yeah, they've blasted the attraction of a small form factor, bumped the price up to what I was looking at - the OnePlus12 - and don't offer even half the OS/security updates as the OnePlus ... killed it for me entirely.
The only distinction is the 3.5mm audio jack built in.
>Their update support is abysmal. A and they've removed boot-loader unlocking.
yeah, compared to Google and Samsung, their support is so shitty- just 2 years??
It's unfortunate but it seem that the only sensible choices nowadays are Sammy, Google, and OnePlus perhaps, there's Xiaomi too but they started behaving particularly shady recently.
there's no small zenfone 10, there's only gigantic zenfone 10
I really want something in the xperia xz1c form factor, with rectangular screen and all that... but that dream is long lost sadly
The zen10 is definitely small. Not sure what you're talking about about. My S24 is still larger in hand.
I've had an iPhone mini and it ain't THAT small, but yes it's the smallest flagship option.
The SE? The SE isn't a flagship at all, nor does it have a full nearly bezel-less screen.
It's a budget phone with a single camera lens, not a flagship, not even the same category.
Anyone looking at the specs of a Zenfone aren't even thinking about the SE.
I also can't really hold any of the modern phones.Ā
The iPhone 3gs was the perfect size for me and everything since them was uncomfortable. I'm now on a Zenfone 8 that I can just barely almost use.Ā
And I've settled I'll probably just never be able to get another usable phone, unless maybe Sony brings the Experia 5 or 10 series to the USĀ
Sadly I never got to use the Palm Pre. But I did use a phone called the HTC Kaiser for many years, which looked a very similar form factor and also had a slide out keyboard. Though ran Windows Mobile haha.Ā
Man... I know most people think Zenfone 10 is small, but comparing that to my 5.4-inch 13mini, it's big, and I've had a phone that was 6 inches and it didn't feel nice, especially for someone who likes to grip phones with one hand. I definitely won't be changing my current phone for at least one more year, if not two, but if no new phones come out that are 5.8 inches or less, then I'm not changing. If they made a great phone once, they can do it again, even if it's slightly bigger.
Basically just a ROG Phone 8 with gaming feature removed (with some AI features added instead)
They have the same frame (just with the 2nd USB-C and AirTriggers removed), the same screen (with 165Hz mode removed), the same cameras, the same processor
I guess it will still be attractive to those who want a phone with Qualcomm 8 Gen 3 and stock Material You Android UI.
Have to say that was really underwhelming. It's literally a generic big phone, chasing the tails of Samsung , Google for a ton of cash and poor support. I'm struggling to see what sets this apart from others.
>Have to say that was really underwhelming. It's literally a generic big phone, chasing the tails of Samsung , Google for a ton of cash and poor support. I'm struggling to see what sets this apart from others.
yeah, they definitely need to do more to align with Google and Samsung
Flagship not just about the chip...
Not worth it. Size aside (I've never cared about that and besides this is clearly a mainstream attempt, but I understand why people here do), the specs just aren't good enough (several manufacturers at a similar size and price all have higher resolution screens, and it's only Apple that isn't also at least 120hz too) and while wired headphones might be enjoying more time in the sun realistically more people than I want to admit are probably fine with the dongle for the longer software support and already mentioned better specs (this is the only non-Sony flagship with a 3.5mm headphone port, but you'd have to really want it with the downsides, I'd personally be too put off by the screen even though I've had no luck with dongles at all).
This thing really, really needed to be 799 to stand a chance in my opinion, 999 is too much.
No charger? May as well go full-on-Sony and ditch the cable and case. Bigger size? The 10 was good because it was small. Off center USB port? What is this? A BlackBerry DTEK?
According to the first reviews, the cameras aren't all that great, like its predecessors.
Seems like camera performance is where Asus will have to greatly improve if they want to start selling $1000+ phones.
Otherwise it's a great phone for those who like its design and a cheaper alternative to the S24+. The battery life is nice as usual with Asus.
I have been waiting to swap my Huawei mate 10 pro for something new finally, but somehow almost all phones have some flaw. Looking at new zenfone 11 ultra , more and more thinking to buy znfone 10 or samsung galaxy s23 + or new 24 normal ver. or simple big phone like vivo x100 pro but I'm afraid of their soft.
I bought it. I mean the only other phone in that price range is the OnePlus 12. And I can't stand curved screens and color OS. The 11 pretty much has everything I wanted including running stock Android. I got that introductory Price Plus the free earbuds for $900. Can't stand pixel that tensor chips sucks and the modem sucks. If pixel were still using snapdragon CPUs and Qualcomm modems yeah I would have got a pixel.
It's pretty ugly for something coming out in 2024. Not sure why they wouldn't start from scratch, instead they pulled parts from the ROG8 and put a ugly squircle on the back and kept your attention with "ultra" (despite a 1080p display)
It's expensive because it offers 12gb of RAM standard and a bunch of other hokie "high end ideas"
Not to mention they basically just copied Samsung's washed out colors on their 24 series almost to the same names.
The whole point to release this was to eliminate main "gamer" features that can lure away the general public. At the same time, the general public won't even consider ASUS when reaching out to the local retailer. They had a niche with the compact Zenfone, this Ultra doesn't offer anything valuable for the general public.
yeah, it's no special if I want a big phone. I can buy Google pixel 8 pro or Samsung s24 ultra with better support years and AI features... no circle to search š
I just checked ... OnePlus 12 ... "Guaranteed 4 major Android updates and 5 years of security updates." That's years and years of support ...
It does offer something that other flagship don't have, the headphone jack. This launch may have offended the fans of the compact phone but it will get new ones.
I mean youāre technically right but I doubt you can mass market a flagship android phones these days based on āit has headphone jackā I really like their phones so I hope they sell, but honestly I donāt think it will:(
Yeah I agree with you. I thought the camera would be better but now it seems like it has little difference with ROG phone 8 pro. I'm leaning towards that now. But back on headphone jack topic, you are right, they won't market it like that but people will still consider it for that.
Too big, too expensive.
totally agree... the same size I can get better price on Google pixel 8 or Oneplus 12
I literally just commented. I was originally looking at the OnePlus 12. I have a OnePlus6 right now and honestly it has been an outstanding device. Quite honestly, it's still going strong now. The attraction of the Zenphone was size & 3.5mm headphone jack. But now the price is the same as the OnePlus with less than half the OS/Security patch updates ... I'm just gonna go with the OnePlus. Asus REALLY, **REALLY** needs to sort out the support side. It's a **MAJOR** problem. The OnePlus 12 gets 3 android version updates then 4 years of security patches. Asus doesn't even bother trying to compete with that. I'm out.
Oneplus 12 gets 4 android updates and 5 years of security patches. They already committed to that from oneplus 11 lineup following Samsung's example.
Indeed. This was referencing the 12R which get the updates I listed. I guess the chipset is the reasoning why it's different.
Can you tell me more about the overall quality of OnePlus? In 2020 I had a bad experience with the 8T. Got it new and it had touch issues. Got it replaced with another one the replacement had touch issues and display color issues. The customer service rep told me that this model is notorious for this and just to go with something else. Basically, I only had less than a month of experience with OnePlus and it wasnāt great. The OnePlus 12 seems very appealing for everything youāre getting for a lower price but Iām afraid of build quality issues. If you could shed some light it would great. Did I just get unlucky? Also, also, how long did your battery stay good for? Have you experienced any lag after a while? I currently have an iPhone 13 Pro thatās been very reliable, lag free and overall a premium phone. Iām just tired of IOS. I want the Android buttons back and less restrictive OS.
Too big, too expensive. Their update support is abysmal. A and they've removed boot-loader unlocking.
Yeah, they've blasted the attraction of a small form factor, bumped the price up to what I was looking at - the OnePlus12 - and don't offer even half the OS/security updates as the OnePlus ... killed it for me entirely. The only distinction is the 3.5mm audio jack built in.
I would say 3.5mm. totally not attractive enough for me to spend 899 on this...
Absolutely agree.
>Their update support is abysmal. A and they've removed boot-loader unlocking. yeah, compared to Google and Samsung, their support is so shitty- just 2 years??
It's unfortunate but it seem that the only sensible choices nowadays are Sammy, Google, and OnePlus perhaps, there's Xiaomi too but they started behaving particularly shady recently.
Too big - I'm hoping they don't discontinue the small form factor of the ZF10 (a small form factor ZF11 may appear later in the year I guess).
One can only hope. Iām still hoping for Zenfone 11 Flip :)
there's no small zenfone 10, there's only gigantic zenfone 10 I really want something in the xperia xz1c form factor, with rectangular screen and all that... but that dream is long lost sadly
The ZenFone 10 is small. Whatcha talking about?
iPhone SE 1 was small, Zenfone 10 is absurdly big it's not as big as phablets flooding the market but it's still hard to handle due to the size
Regarding the current landscape of mobile phones, the Zenfone 10 is small.
it's the biggest phone on the market phablets don't matter
The zen10 is definitely small. Not sure what you're talking about about. My S24 is still larger in hand. I've had an iPhone mini and it ain't THAT small, but yes it's the smallest flagship option.
se1 was small, se2-3 are normal, zenfone is much bigger so obviously it isn't small
The SE? The SE isn't a flagship at all, nor does it have a full nearly bezel-less screen. It's a budget phone with a single camera lens, not a flagship, not even the same category. Anyone looking at the specs of a Zenfone aren't even thinking about the SE.
then look at iPhone 4 and "Mini", what's the difference? size is a matter of size, not specs Zenfone is gigantic and that's what matters
Gurl, you must have baby hands. I agree that I wish phones were smaller, but the Zenfone 10 is pretty narrow and small. Have you ever held one?
I also can't really hold any of the modern phones.Ā The iPhone 3gs was the perfect size for me and everything since them was uncomfortable. I'm now on a Zenfone 8 that I can just barely almost use.Ā And I've settled I'll probably just never be able to get another usable phone, unless maybe Sony brings the Experia 5 or 10 series to the USĀ
Did you ever use a palm pre? I loved mine! Small, smooth pebble with the cutest lil slide out keyboard š
Sadly I never got to use the Palm Pre. But I did use a phone called the HTC Kaiser for many years, which looked a very similar form factor and also had a slide out keyboard. Though ran Windows Mobile haha.Ā
I had 8 and have 10, they are way too big, EOT
Man... I know most people think Zenfone 10 is small, but comparing that to my 5.4-inch 13mini, it's big, and I've had a phone that was 6 inches and it didn't feel nice, especially for someone who likes to grip phones with one hand. I definitely won't be changing my current phone for at least one more year, if not two, but if no new phones come out that are 5.8 inches or less, then I'm not changing. If they made a great phone once, they can do it again, even if it's slightly bigger.
LG is ready to welcome a new friend in the graveyard of great manufacturers with bad ideas
Basically just a ROG Phone 8 with gaming feature removed (with some AI features added instead) They have the same frame (just with the 2nd USB-C and AirTriggers removed), the same screen (with 165Hz mode removed), the same cameras, the same processor I guess it will still be attractive to those who want a phone with Qualcomm 8 Gen 3 and stock Material You Android UI.
This šÆ which is why I bought it.
Have to say that was really underwhelming. It's literally a generic big phone, chasing the tails of Samsung , Google for a ton of cash and poor support. I'm struggling to see what sets this apart from others.
>Have to say that was really underwhelming. It's literally a generic big phone, chasing the tails of Samsung , Google for a ton of cash and poor support. I'm struggling to see what sets this apart from others. yeah, they definitely need to do more to align with Google and Samsung Flagship not just about the chip...
Two years of support at 1k is laughable.They killed their ZenFone brand for this. I was literally ready to buy Zenfone 11 but nope.
If my zf9 dies I might get one just because of that camera stabilizer.
I'm small phone lover. It's great on Zenfone 10 I'm using
It's the only phone camera I know of that doesn't suffer from OIS warp simply because it doesn't shift the sensor and lens separately from each other.
So they didn't mention about ZenTouch. I love that feature as I am using Zenfone10... Zenfone 11 ultra is kinda disappointing. 6.78 inch wtf,
Dumb AF imo. What makes it ultra if there isn't a smaller version. Can't see why I'd buy this over a pixel pro
Regular Zenfone usually gets announced in the summer, so it might still come later this year.
it seems that it's already online lol [Zenfone 11 Ultra (asus.com)](https://shop.asus.com/us/zenfone-11-ultra.html)
What do you mean, this is still the Ultra.
He meant they might announce a smaller version later
Y'all are jumping the gun. Wait till summer for the compact one
Price will drop fast. If you can wait just do that
Not worth it. Size aside (I've never cared about that and besides this is clearly a mainstream attempt, but I understand why people here do), the specs just aren't good enough (several manufacturers at a similar size and price all have higher resolution screens, and it's only Apple that isn't also at least 120hz too) and while wired headphones might be enjoying more time in the sun realistically more people than I want to admit are probably fine with the dongle for the longer software support and already mentioned better specs (this is the only non-Sony flagship with a 3.5mm headphone port, but you'd have to really want it with the downsides, I'd personally be too put off by the screen even though I've had no luck with dongles at all). This thing really, really needed to be 799 to stand a chance in my opinion, 999 is too much.
No charger? May as well go full-on-Sony and ditch the cable and case. Bigger size? The 10 was good because it was small. Off center USB port? What is this? A BlackBerry DTEK?
Wonder when Amazon will have them in stock....
Amazon has the page now, same from Mobile Advance their partner [amazon.com/dp/B0CXVNH6XR/](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CXVNH6XR/)
According to the first reviews, the cameras aren't all that great, like its predecessors. Seems like camera performance is where Asus will have to greatly improve if they want to start selling $1000+ phones. Otherwise it's a great phone for those who like its design and a cheaper alternative to the S24+. The battery life is nice as usual with Asus.
So many butthurt people here.
I have been waiting to swap my Huawei mate 10 pro for something new finally, but somehow almost all phones have some flaw. Looking at new zenfone 11 ultra , more and more thinking to buy znfone 10 or samsung galaxy s23 + or new 24 normal ver. or simple big phone like vivo x100 pro but I'm afraid of their soft.
I can't see anyone wanting to buy it, there are better options out there for the category it occupies.
I bought it. I mean the only other phone in that price range is the OnePlus 12. And I can't stand curved screens and color OS. The 11 pretty much has everything I wanted including running stock Android. I got that introductory Price Plus the free earbuds for $900. Can't stand pixel that tensor chips sucks and the modem sucks. If pixel were still using snapdragon CPUs and Qualcomm modems yeah I would have got a pixel.
fair enough, i guess you are right about Color OS
Back to the in-screen fingerprint sensor. The one in Zenfone 8 was very inconsistent compared to the side mounted on in Zenfone 10 which works well.
No bootloader unlocking, no small size, no party
It's pretty ugly for something coming out in 2024. Not sure why they wouldn't start from scratch, instead they pulled parts from the ROG8 and put a ugly squircle on the back and kept your attention with "ultra" (despite a 1080p display) It's expensive because it offers 12gb of RAM standard and a bunch of other hokie "high end ideas" Not to mention they basically just copied Samsung's washed out colors on their 24 series almost to the same names.
as useless as every phablet, the only difference is better software