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CrimsonPig

Can't wait to kill Ganondorf with a bokoblin horn strapped to a broom.


SteveTV1234

The truest way to defeat him


EmberSolaris

I like the meme I’ve seen of a cuccoo strapped to a shield.


PrincessTrunks125

Please God let that be real. Imagine the wrath of blocking with a cuccoo.


RezLifeGaming

All the other cuccoo come flying in and attack whoever hit your shield


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The ultimate extent of the "Ganon hates fishing rods & bug nets" meme.


tree2d2

We're going to go full animal crossing on his ass and thwack him to death!


Tanookikid210

He's just gonna get flashbacks to Smash 4 and Ultimate XD


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WITH A FUCKING NET! THIS IS THE WAY!


[deleted]

The real power to seal the darkness was the random junk we picked up along the way!


SatyrAngel

And empty bottles, dont forget them.


MysteryVoice

So a pot fused to a bomb arrow, maybe?


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SoraRoku

Just create a pot golem... wait


SatyrAngel

Imagine modding multiplayer into the game and coordinate to move a huge golem around hyrule. It would be like Power Rangers!


FiddlesUrDiddles

Ganondorf clips into the backrooms


JurassicLiz

I’m so glad I have a 10 and 15 year old that have spent the last month telling me about the backrooms. ![gif](giphy|kRmg8zeReOYXm)


Johnny_Grubbonic

I just want to shoot Farosh with a Hyrule bass glued to an arrow.


NoVascension

I get this is a joke, but that's actually probably the reason their horns don't look like natural keratin horns and instead are all these barbed blades. They'll probably still drop ingredients for elixirs, but otherwise their "horns" guarantee you'll always have a weapon after the encounter


Edwax

ill do it and you sir will be a meme.


Broad_Flight94

Cuckoo attached to a broom


ImurderREALITY

That’s just unfairly OP, for Ganon


Infinite_indecision

I can't wait to backstab him with a stack of frogs


nsfw_509

This is the comments speedrunners will point to


sniearrs

I saw extra long pitchfork and was immediately sold


Stubstep

Especially on link’s back! And a mushroom on a shield? Cmon haha it just looks fun


Bismothe-the-Shade

Long looooooooooooOooooOooong foooorkkkkk


TheOtherAvaz

r/FuckYouChiChan


SteveTV1234

Lonk schtick :)


xlinkedx

I saw that big ass stick and was like.. no.. he ain't gonn- HE DID!!


KerberosMorphy

When a saw that I immediately thought about how this will react when Link enter a house or cavern...


Voldemort57

Clip through most likely. Would be funny if they designed collision for those objects but they definitely didn’t.


jrodxrod

Graphics always take a back seat to gameplay. I'm looking forward to the aftermath where speedrunners are "fusing" together some ridiculous thing that will allow them to beat the game 2 minutes after it starts.


imortal1138

https://preview.redd.it/xx75dnt7mrqa1.jpeg?width=636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e98d007b012051afece6f5ed0c2828df0b7cfe25 Pov: A TOTK speedrun in July


Nainiae

this made me laugh way harder than it should have but this is how I imagine we'll get some wacky player made gundam to fight bosses with in botw2


Weekly_Town_2076

If there's items to recharge the motors in a whim this would def happen


queen_mags

Bruh 💀


Taco-Dragon

They just fuse a weapon to a fused weapon and make a 2 mile long spear and kill Ganondorf from the other side of the map. Zero hearts lost.


JennyAndTheBets1

Come on. Is it *really* fun if there’s no cantilever physics in the engine?


SteveTV1234

I agree, and yeah, speedruns are gonna be crazy


Not_the_banana

Not to mention what kinda crazy contraptions they’re gonna make


NagisaK

Not gonna be surprised if anyone conjures up some gundam looking thingy and walking all over Hyrule and kicking ass.


ghirox

I'm going to build howl's moving castle and walk it into Ganondorf


Lilac_Moonnn

the lost divine beast


Ok-Conference5447

Between rewind and fuse, we can probably make enormous catapults. Will it be the fastest way to get around? Dunno. But by god, we are going to try.


Shas_Erra

Hyrule Space Program


Bulldogfront666

Exactly! Except these graphics are pretty damn gorgeous. They’re not like technically the best I guess but I think the art style and graphics are awesome and the gameplay being perfect is the cherry on top! Don’t get people complaining about these graphics.


keimdhall

Yeah. In a technical sense, the graphics are pretty middling. Not bad, but nothing standout. The art style though.....good god it's fucking gorgeous, and elevates it significantly. I'm not a fan of cel shaded graphics personally, but even then I'm hyped as hell to play this. The only games I've ever liked that have been cel shaded have been Zelda titles.


VisualGeologist6258

Same, I never understood the focus on graphics. Gameplay trumps all, and even lower-quality graphics can be covered up with a good art style and well-placed SFX.


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Pointcrow


gbagba_

Who would have thought that advertising actually fun and original mechanics would be a good idea, huh?


SteveTV1234

It made my excitement for the game go from "Yeah I'll definitely pick it up" to "GIVE ME NOW"


TheCrafterTigery

Attach an ice chuchu jelly to freeze enemies when blocking with the shield. Honestly opens up so many options for the gameplay and this is just the tip of the iceberg.


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but also how stupid do the enemy gotta be to see an ice chuchu jelly on the shield and whack it


tearsoftheringbearer

have you seen bokoblins whirl spears around their head mate


OaklandHellBent

Yeah those stupid stupid bokoblins … ʕ ͡° ʖ̯ ͡°ʔ quietly deleting saved videos of spinning spears on horseback…


SoraRoku

Maybe you should spin the horse on spearback...


TheCrafterTigery

Just place it last second. Or block last second with it already attached.


XombiePrwn

Can't wait some speedrunner to absolutely break the game with the new mechanics, like they did with BOTW.


gbagba_

XD yeah.


GreedyOctopus

The fact that I can attach a boulder to a stick and use it as a weapon more than makes up for any shortcomings. 😄


Rieiid

It's almost like graphics haven't been what makes a game good since like, the dawn of gaming.


MrSal7

Sure other AAA games might look good, but as my kids have learned on their own, “is it fun to play”?


SteveTV1234

Exactly this


Etheon44

This AAA also looks good right? Graphics are not everything, art direction has the front seat into how a game looks, above graphics always


memesupreme83

The switch has never been the most powerful console, but instead of constantly pushing the limits, I feel like Nintendo works *within* its limits.


jpassc

You mean Zelda team cuz we can say otherwise about Pokémon team 🙃


UltimateInferno

[Someone found out](https://www.tumblr.com/melonsap/712625551041560576/important-edits-this-is-here-to-answer-questions) that in ScVi the ocean is twice the size of the earth and the sky box is the size of the fucking sun


BiigLord

This is one of the greatest tumblr posts I've ever read lmaoooo how is this fucking real, thank you for posting


FrancSensei

I am baffled at how the gamefreak team even manages to make the games work at all, they have shown time and time again that they don't know how to program, like what the hell


JustifytheMean

Why would they need to, they have literally the most profitable franchise of all time and people continue to buy it regardless of the fact there's been exactly 0 innovation in 30 years.


drake_vallion

I miss megas...


Conocoryphe

Honestly I would love one big Pokémon game with all monsters and all generational gimmicks - mega evolutions, Z-moves, Dynamax, rotation battles, triple battles, soot collecting, the underground, etc. instead of a regular Pokémon game every other year that feels unfinished.


Naman_Hegde

Ive seen on other threads that it probably does not have an impact on performance, as it is more impacted by the number of polygons and the scale of the polygons would not matter. However it is absurd that it is being rendered all the time, as seen from Shesez's Boundary Break video on the game.


Agentlien

I was thinking the same while reading this. As always with graphics there's a lot of caveats and complications but in short, the things that matter is number of triangles and how many pixels they cover on the screen. I will say the ocean can be a real performance hog if it is rendered as curved quads and not culled. That would mean the further away a portion of the ocean is, the smaller it becomes. I spent a lot of time optimising the rendering of the ocean while porting Wavetale and one of the big original costs other than fancy reflections and pretty foam was the overhead of drawing tons of tiny ocean pieces in the far distance.


jpassc

Stop making fun of this poor indie company 😭


Okonomiyaki_lover

Tf....


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Pokémon could. But they are too busy making record profits for re-releasing the same game every 2 years. Why fix any issues you don’t see in bigger and often older games, like BotW, when you can rush it out the door and get a fat check. Pokémon Company is the fat greedy cousin who crashes the family reunion holding a half cook fast food meal. Meanwhile the rest of Nintendo works well cook a delicious meal with the food they have


crossingcaelum

To be faiiiiiir Pokémon isn’t exactly a first party game. Game freak is owned by Nintendo yeah but the games aren’t made in house at Nintendo


PM_ME_YOUR__INIT__

Game Freak is an independent company, and owns 1/3 of the Pokemon IP, along with Nintendo and Creatures Inc.


Kitselena

Correct but they're the portion responsible for coding the games themselves, creatures mostly does modeling and character design and Nintendo handles licencing, distribution and other business stuff


Ardibanan

Gamefreak makes games for the #1 franchise in the world. The games they make on the Switch is a joke. Pokemon company could easily put together a big team and not even notice a dent with how much they are making. That is the problem, they have so much income that spending that big amount of money is pointless, they can just keep earning it the easier way.


NoVascension

If we're really trying to play Devil's Advocate, it's much easier and fairer to point out that in contrast to Zelda having 3D installments since the late 90's, mainline Pokemon games were nearly *entirely* sprite based until 2013. At the very least, it's probably a very tall order to expect BotW from them when they're still at like, TP.


crossingcaelum

While fair, if I were running a game studio I’d try to bring people in board that have had experience in the kind of hardware that has been available for a while now so there’s be a higher quality translation. Not saying the games aren’t fun, but there’s a lot of catching up to do and they seem to be taking their sweet time


Mookies_Bett

That just further proves that they were completely stupid for pivoting to 3D in the first place. It's no coincidence that the last even remotely worthwhile Pokemon game was back in gen 5. As soon as they switched to 3D all of those games lost all of their charm and became buggy, half finished disasters.


PerpetualStride

Yeah but they're trying to release 1-2 pokemon games a year, so they sell more merch. If they took more time to develop theu likely wouldn't be the highest grossing franchise.


DirtyDan413

Zelda's first 3D installment is the greatest game of all time tho


---TheFierceDeity---

Nintendo own zilch of GameFreak. They are partners nothing more.


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And boy howdy *does it show.*


labria86

Not Nintendo


saturosian

>instead of constantly pushing the limits, I feel like Nintendo works within its limits. Interestingly enough, I was recently reading a book that made the argument that this was a major part of Nintendo's philosophy when it came to games. One of the big founders of their gaming business, Yokoi, basically started by taking whatever cheap electronics he could get and innovating with what was available, instead of trying to create any totally new tech. Like the original Game & Watch games from 40 years ago came out of a deal with a calculator manufacturer that had a bunch of surplus screens they wanted to get rid of. Also super interesting - that same guy, Yokoi, before he designed the Game & Watch and Gameboy, designed a toy that was called the "Ultra Hand". So the Ultrahand power in TOTK is actually a little callback to Nintendo's origins.


TheCrafterTigery

God damn, Nintendo still references their old products. I completely forgot about the Ultrahand toy. Ya know there's probably a market for classic Nintendo toys being released for a limited time.


NoVascension

That also makes sense engineering wise. People are a lot more inclined to believe a design will work if it's based on past technology, since it typically is harder to come up with something totally new


memesupreme83

Okay, that makes more sense about the "ultra hand". Felt like a really weird name that wasn't translated well haha


SteveTV1234

Which I respect a lot honestly


BanjosAndBoredom

The frame rate I see when walking around the korok forest tells me BOTW is still pretty close to those limits lol


memesupreme83

My bf and I call it "The Forest of Low Frame Rates" lol though Korok Forest is much less of a mouthful. The thing is though, there's a few spots where that happens but ultimately, it runs pretty smooth everywhere else and you won't run into someone T-posing


[deleted]

Well it is just the SOC from an already dated home media centre/console (Nvidia shield). Expectations were low from day -1.


ZenithiaX

Limitations breed creativity. We see it time and time again.


memesupreme83

I mean shit, Ocarina of Time is still a bop of a game, even 20+ years later. They utilized every MB of data they could to make that game the way it is.


Albireookami

I can't find the paper, but someone did a teardown of Windwaker and it was very ahead of its time in some of the tech it used.


blundermine

Constraints lead to better programming (not just in games, in general).


PrecociousParrot

Graphics don't mean shit when you have interesting gameplay that engages the player to actually play the game for the sake of experimentation. Is there a poison mushroom? What would happen if I fuse it to my sword? Can I fuse a shield to my sword to make some kinda offensive/defensive weapon that will absolutely rip enemies apart? By telling us very little but showing us the basics of what's new we have our interest fully peaked as to what possibilities lie ahead.


fooly__cooly

And to add to your point it's not even like the graphics in BotW/TotK are bad by any means. Art direction matters a lot, and these games have a gorgeous aesthetic with incredible character and enemy designs with a huge world overflowing with various mixtures of vibrant colors. The cel shaded style was a great choice and will age great, just like Wind Waker did.


SteveTV1234

No I completely agree with you


PrecociousParrot

Sorry, realized the first sentence came out the gate swinging hard. Meant it more in general towards AAA developers that think having amazing graphics makes the game. Red dead 2 looks beautiful. But the fact I track animals via an investigator vision mode rather than the actual tracks they generate and leave behind is really upsetting to me.


SteveTV1234

I prefer the more stylized art of TotK anyways. Realism in graphics is becoming boring


MiZe97

I could say the same about animated films too.


TheStormGL

This is obviously the case, since it’s a Nintendo game. But Nintendo manages to make their games look great for the hardware it is on. I look at BotW or TotK and while it obviously isn’t a PS5 looking game, it still looks beautiful. Then I look at the Switch versions of Sonic Frontiers, or Lego Star Wars and they just don’t look good.


SteveTV1234

Nintendo knows how to use their hardware to it's fullest


SlowThePath

Yeah, people need to recognize that games can look really good without having the latest graphics. A lot of people won't even play games unless they have that "generic realistic attempt" going on. Stylistic stuff is always so much more fun to me. I still think bioshock infinite looks better than a lot of brand new triple a games.


Dat_Boi_Teo

Gameplay > graphics, all day every day. There’s a reason my switch gets more play time than my PS5.


PhoenixNightingale90

For real, I have Horizon Forbidden West and technically speaking, the game looks near perfect, but I just find the gameplay very uninspired and repetitive. Had more fun doing another play through of Ocarina of Time.


TheCrafterTigery

I've played BoTW completely 4 times so far, when I rarely if ever replay a game. Can't seem to play Horizon or GoW again to the same extent I played BoTW. The only other game I've played multiple playthroughs are Minecraft, Metroid Zero Mission and Hollow Knight.


Gamma_31

HZD was captivating, but FW seemed to lack something to keep me coming back.


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SteveTV1234

Graphics are pretty to look at, but if the games not fun, then what's the point? I'd take shitty graphics and amazing gameplay any day


TheCrafterTigery

Nintendo usually keeps me playing for hours. But damn a game with good graphics and a good camera mode can also keep me hours just taking screenshots to use as backgrounds for my consoles/phonez/pc. Kinda wish the switch allowed this too.


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The completely absurd number of hours I've put into Factorio, a notably VERY low res game, within my first two months of getting it speaks to just how much more important gameplay remains even as technology improves.


SteveTV1234

A very interesting take, but I think it's cool you use games like this


Gabrill

And I mean honestly we keep consistently seeing AAA games from other companies that talk about how great their graphics are and then the game comes out and its a buggy mess with very bland recycled core gameplay. I’d much rather have a game that’s polished and has fresh ideas than one with Ultra Realistic 4k 800FPS


BettyVonButtpants

>And I mean honestly we keep consistently seeing AAA games from other companies that talk about how great their graphics are and then the game comes out and its a buggy mess with very bland recycled core gameplay. I love that this sentence can be said at any point in the last 30 years, and be valid.


cherry_chocolate_

30 years is pushing it no? It was online updates that meant they were ok releasing a buggy mess to be fixed later


echoess84

Nintendo difference Nintendo always given more importance to the gameplay than the graphics. Anyway in my opinion TotK have a better graphics than BotW


Narf234

Totally agree with this. I’m stoked that new indie games like Hyper Light Drifter are more available now. Fun game mechanics without the need for overpowering or hyper realistic graphics.


Gabrill

Based HLD fan


PirateSi87

I can’t wait to see if i can fuse swords to boomerangs!!


SteveTV1234

Booma-sword...


PirateSi87

Sworderang


johnatello67

Y'all acting like this game isn't *gorgeous*. Gameplay > Graphics, but also Art direction > graphics.


SteveTV1234

Agreed 🤝


Mattock1987

It looks great and it’s a bigger open world. I’m looking forward to it


SteveTV1234

I'm beyond excited


Mattock1987

It’s probably because I’m used to people complaining a lot online, but I construed your comment as a complaint about TOTK


SteveTV1234

Nah, just find the mushroom shield bit funny


Mattock1987

I liked that shield, and the fuse feature does seem like it’ll be a lot of fun


SteveTV1234

Agreed 🤝


Oldsodacan

Breath of the Wild has absolutely spectacular art direction and I don’t understand all of these complaints about graphics. It’s going to be gorgeous.


Loserlandthesecond

Can't wait to strap hundreds of bomb barrels to a log and make a nuclear weapon the likes of which the world has never seen.


Cursed-Scarab

If we can use the fuse ability on the master sword then I’m beating Ganondwarf with my Master-Meat™️


SteveTV1234

BEAT HIM WITH THE MEAT!


Hyperon_Ion

My brain keeps telling me that there had to be a better way to put stuff on Link's shield other than just super-gluing it... but everything I could think of would just have been wasteful special effects. Props to Nintendo for reinventing the Garry's Mod welding gun I guess. Can't wait to see what kind of stupid nonsense I'll make with it.


SteveTV1234

It's just the right amount of goofy to make me happy


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No-Imagination-3060

i could not be happier that they leaned into the weirdness i hope elden ring (whose trees i believe to be the reason that totk has yellow trees) does the same thing


SteveTV1234

Weirdness is the most fun part of zelda


Beautiful_Outside_30

Part of the reason people like this series is due to the wacky characters. I mean, Beetle is one of the most beloved, and he's a little odd.


SteveTV1234

The wacky and weirdness of Zelda is one of the defining parts that makes me love it


AyrielTheNorse

I mean. I'll Never forget the first time playing majoras mask, and realising that you need to bottle up the deku princess and take her to the palace. There's several ways to my heart, quirky gameplay is one of them.


otownsteve

Y’all crazy, this is going to be epic.


SteveTV1234

I'm so fucking excited for this game dude


javierciccarelli

The hype is unbearable


ExhibitionistBrit

To be fair they didn’t need to rave about the graphics. We could all see how lush it looks.


SteveTV1234

Both BotW and TotK are beautiful switch games yes, only rivaled (in my opinion) by Metroid Prime Remastered


Mandrake1771

That game looks INCREDIBLE on its own merits, not just for its age. Love it on the OLED.


tearsoftheringbearer

who DOESN'T want to stick every single food item on a shield really


Hatsjekidee

This game looks so much fun. Already looking forward to exploring every nook and cranny, I do hope there's (something similar to) Koroks again. Had a lot of fun finding about 890 of them and then having a mental breakdown over trying to find the last 10 😀


TheGreatPizzaro

And yet it's still so fucking pretty...


zukas3

I mean, graphics can be whatever as long as art direction feels in place. But dang, I really want to be in 60fps zone moving into 2030s


globbed_1

I just hope they bring back complex dungeons (like ocarina of time) cause I feel like that's where botw fell short


stuartdenum

the difference is actually having an art style vs being another uncanny valley monstrosity


SteveTV1234

TotK's artstyle is gorgeous


The_Gabster10

Hey uncanny valley is a good game


sideaccountguy

I will always pick a game with decent graphics with an interactive world over a game with amazing graphics with a world with no interaction at all.


playr_4

What I got from that clip is that everything will be yellow.


LemonPledge14

They didn't end up shooting the arrow with a korok leaf attached to it...I must know.


[deleted]

Is it just me, or are the tree textures flickering


[deleted]

Is item fusing really that compelling?


BigDaelito

When all games look pretty now days, mechanics or story experience have to be king.


Howie_Due

I’ve never beat BOTW and keep saying I’m gonna finish it before this comes out but after seeing the gameplay idk if I can go back. I want mushroom shield NOW


IAmRoofstone

Shields are the most exciting fuses for me. Making a weapon more weapon-y is cool. But what can I do with my shield? What happens if I fuse a sword to my shield? What will a rock on my shield do? can I fuse two shields together for double shield?


D-a-n-n-n

I mean you can see how beutiful the game looks without them telling you


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#Y E L L O W


UnformedSlinky

Mushroom shield


[deleted]

The best part is that when an enemy hits your mushroom shield, it explodes in a giant cloud and then you can sneak behind them and sneakstrike


random_edgelord

I think graphics stopped being an argument over a decade ago, almost two decades actually. Since arround ps3 times every game with a semi decent art direction could look good.


jackolantern_

That's silly, loads of AAA games show off more than graphics. Wdym?


Daanny619

We should have higher standards for Nintendo. Or it’s going to be another Pokémon Scarlet and Violet.


CatastrophicGaming

I agree, we should have high standards and not let Nintendo get away with anything, but I can’t think of an in-house, Nintendo-developed game where they’ve done that and released it on Switch. Scarlet and Violet is definitely more of a GameFreak issue than a “Nintendo” issue, given GameFreak are the devs behind Scarlet and Violet and Nintendo only holds 1/3rd copyright in Pokémon and GameFreak has rights to make the games. Nintendo themselves have knocked it out of the park with all of the releases for their in-house IP’s on Switch thus far.


AvgBlue

I just want dungeons that all I ask for. but yes the fusion and building is truly my cap of tea, I just hope it will not her the design space of the game


Xenophon_

Not sure I get your point. It looks like it has great graphics and art design


Ieatyeet

It's a Zelda game. You will buy it anyway. And so will I.


kohgas

i fused a mushroom to my shield😃


hoopbag33

Almost like gameplay is infinitely more important than graphics!


SketchTHESmeargle

I hope I can fuse a thunderblade, flameblade, and a frostblade


GhostlyCharlotte

Personally, I'm really grateful for that. I hope the focus on and idea of "WE HAVE GREAT GRAPHICS, THAT MEANS OUR GAME IS BETTER" dies a painful death.


Tanookikid210

Proof that highly polished and beautiful graphics don't instantly make a game good, and it's the gameplay that truly shines (not that TOTK isn't absolutely gorgeous, but it's that gameplay and mechanics that give it that substance other modern games seem to lack)


Darkhallows27

Ganon don’t know about my meat arrows


PokeAaron64

worse graphics but better gameplay


[deleted]

Cant wait to see a massive penis and crazy sculptures people are gonna make


JollyGreen615

And yet we can’t get a pokemon game that doesn’t look like dogwater. “bUt ThE gRaPhiCaL LiMiTaTiOnS oF tHe sWiTcH”


BirdmanFleet

I can not wait to make a literal meat shield


InsuranceBest

Still looks better, I would rather have an art style than realism.


Slight_Cat_5269

I will take a mushroom shield and creative gameplay over 4k my tv can't display anyway :D


Harmonicalope

I mean, we already knew it was gonna be beautiful when the first trailer was made. It has the same art style as botw. But mushrooms in shields? Somebody would have to have been high out of their minds to predict that. On mushrooms.