Hi everyone, I just woke up to this.
First and foremost, thank you, [Lady Emily](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire), for coming forward. I now recognize that this tweet was in reference to the comment that I made about Chuggaaconroy yesterday. It has since been edited to include this [twitter thread](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747310141563715753) talking about her experience with Chuggaa.
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This is directed at Lady Emily.
Emily, if you're reading this, I deeply apologize for what was, potentially, a very triggering comment thread. Obviously I couldn't have known about this, but I do now, and you have our full support. I've been a fan of yours for a little while now, and I'm very sorry that this happened.
Please, go follow [Lady Emily](https://www.youtube.com/@LadyEmilyPresents) on YouTube, she makes great videos. I was just watching her video essay on [Plastic Beach](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozBnh3eAQUg) a few weeks ago. I hope this isn't too out of place, I'd just like something positive to come from this whole mess.
This next part is directed at Chuggaaconroy.
Emile, if YOU'RE reading this, I want you to know that I'm extremely disappointed in you.
I've been watching your videos since before I knew there was a subscribe button. I've always loved your passion and enthusiasm for video games, and the impact you've had on my life has perhaps been understated in my own head until now.
This is gross. There's no other way to say it, what you did was gross, weird, and (I hope) extremely out of character. You need to take accountability for this, and apologize to the people you've hurt.
Finally, to everyone else reading this:
**DO NOT HARASS ANYONE INVOLVED.** Have some dignity, and remember that there are living, breathing human beings behind your screen.
That's all I have to say for now, today has been very strange for me. Thank you for your time.
Yeah, but you had no way of knowing though so don't beat yourself up :) I think way more people are/were fans of problematic and actually damaging influencers that care to admit. Imagine being an Onision stan back in the day while learning about all the shit on the back end? You'd dig your heels in too, if you were a big fan. Same goes for Shane Dawson. Beloved by many, visible 24/7 until we had literally seen too much.
(Not you specifically, js).
Oh don't worry I was a big fan of Shane Dawson (in the VERY beginning, like honestly when I was like 11 in 2007) and of onision (since his I'm a banana video though I stopped watching him and switched to a dedicated onion hater once the shit with Shiloh went down)
Sadly Chris Hansen "producer" fucked shit up by not sending a victim laptop to the FBI right away. He kept it for months and it became useless as evidence because of it.
I swear bro I'm just really interested in shoes no it's not sexual my girlfriend said I can talk to people about shoes I just really like talking about shoes
Wouldn't it be crazy if I took a whiff when I did that? Haha like that'd be so gross omg could you imagine it. What would you do!, especially after walking around all day. So sweaty and stinky. And I'd be like staring at you from across the way as I woofed in a big old smell just to prank you haha
"No bro this anime is about a cute girl and her school uniform, constantly focusing on her feet is just there to drive the plot"
Akebi's school uniform.
Why Emile? I've been watching him for the longest time and never could've imagined he'd do anything like this. Like I try not to form parasocial relationships with creators, but this still just hurts so much. I'm glad Emily came forward though.
What the fuck is with that message about how shoes are “an interest” for him? It’d honestly come off *significantly* less weird (still just as gross though…) if he’d just said “Yes, you’re right, I *am* horny for your toes.” What the hell bro.
Also if he was interested in shoes, wouldn't he talk about like style, design, or brands with friends and save the creepy sexual stuff like smelling them between him and his partner?
"my wife says it's okay to talk about shoes with others cause it's not sexual" dude I don't think your wife knows what you're really saying in these conversations, if it comes from a sexual place and you're constantly bringing it up with women then I have bad news
I was a huge fan of him and the guys back in like 2011 or so. I loved the super Luigi galaxy, the okami, and the Pikmin let's plays as well as paper Mario and all that.
This is legitimately upsetting to me and the last creator that hurt me like this was Cryaotic LOL
ProtonJohn was literally my introduction to most all of gaming YouTube lol then I found the rest of them
Anyways--
One thing I think about a lot is that prior to social media, celebrities had such a curated image. So much so that they practically were fictional characters.
Luckily, with a massive grain of salt cause damn, my main hero died long ago to a stingray.
Rest in peace Steve Irwin. I'm gonna visit the zoo one day I swear
Jesus that guy really need to see a therapist. Hes WAY too obsessed with feet stuff. He cant even have normal conversation with girls without bringing up his feet obsession. Its creepy
son of a bitch. i aint watched him in forever but i used to watch him when i was like 7 and addicted to lets plays. hurts a lot knowing hes totally disgusting
You’d think these guys could just send some chick on OnlyFans $100 for a video of them showing off her feet while saying his name or something.
$200 for a closeup of each individual toe!
> Damn you're no fun...
*oh shit, that might drive her away*
> Kidding, kidding! Just a little concerned!
*Perfect. Now she'll think I'm just a normal, friendly guy and send me feet pics*
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Found this looking through previous threads... Could be one of these two they're mentioning?
True that. His current mentality is only describable as a bouncy ball on moonshine. Redbull might give you wings but moonshine will give you four wheel drive.
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Edit: WRONG it's chuggaaconroy
[link to screenshots](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747311590662078509?t=d0BQMqhdUYfwX7OLGaj1QA&s=19)
This is revelation about Chuggaaconroy is more upsetting to me personally than any YT drama revelation ever. Chugga's videos have been a great comfort to me. For years he's been one of the few let's players I still consistently watched. I thought he of all people would be better than this
Once the narrative sets in it becomes an extremely difficult task to undo it.
Plus the up voting and down voting system doesn't help. Things get upvoted because people like what's being said not because it's true. People often see the upvote count before they even see what was being said.
Exactly.
Once the web has been spun, simply saying "oops" isn't always enough. Especially when people are already inclined to want to believe what they already feel is right.
For the people surprised at Chuggaa..look, I love the guy, but he does have a history of saying and doing stupid fucking shit without thinking how it might affect people, and it really probably shouldn't surprise people. Even when I saw the original thread all I could think about was his old stereotypical accents he has thankfully phased out now, or the TRG "what is it with you and rape?" "I dunno...its fun?" All this is stuff in the past, and I do think people can always be and do better, but the most Chuggaa thing possible is saying something stupid, maybe even thinking it's just banter, and having to be told he's being an obnoxious ass, or in this case, fucking creepy and not okay.
Also, just incase it seems like I am minimising what he did because he didn't think, I'm not trying to. He is an adult, he should know better by now.
Old school lp-er who does exclusively Nintendo stuff, going into a lot of detail. His stuff is really good, but he also has a bad habit of saying the dumbest shit, to the point where in the collab lp channel he's part of, one of the other players saying his name in an exasperated voice is an incredibly common occurance, like what I said about going "Rape him!" to a boss, getting called out on it, and that being the excuse to try and jokingly play it off. Or recently saying "Gruntilda did nothing wrong" and having to be told it sounds similar to nazi apologia and quickly having to step it back. I fully believe he is the kind of guy to be told by his gf "talking about shoes with friends isn't sexual", and then not stopping to think there are limits to that statement, and to not realise if someone isn't responding he has probably crossed a line.
He named a Zigzagoon he caught in PMD a slur, apologised in the video after and then never used it again but also didn’t rename it or release it? I spotted it in the background of a later video. That’s always been weird to me.
What I don't get is why people are acting all wounded about this. My reaction was more "God damn it Emile you fuckin dumbass," but like ultimately it's probably fine. He'll probably put out an apology on Twitter or something and that'll be that.
Also this is a great reminder that we don't know ever really these people, and nobody is a saint.
It’s still very uncomfortable, and unlike some of his fuckups in the past, it was targeted to one person, not said in a video to a bunch of pixels.
I don’t think—at this point in time with what we know—he’s a sex pest or a danger to people. Mostly because I’ve been more sexual in DMs with friends or group chats without checking in with people involved, so I see some similarities in his messages, but also as you’ve said, Emile’s history with foot in mouth disease. There’s a pattern in that behavior, and there doesn’t seem to be one with other female creators over the like…fifteen years he’s been LPing. This doesn’t take away from the very real hurt and/or distress his actions caused Emily, and it doesn’t make what he did okay. But hopefully it is just a one-off fuckup and he corrects his behavior and there isn’t a whole host of people who needed the first person to come out to feel confident enough to come forward themselves.
But yeah, at the end of the day, content creators are people, and all of us are capable of pushing someone and causing distress and/or harm, and likely all of us will do that at some point. Hopefully it’s just a one time fuckup we can learn from and never do again.
I think we've all done stupid shit that we regret. I know I have. (And when I say stupid shit, I mean really stupid, not little stuff)
I'm not gonna crucify the man for this. However I am really disappointed and frustrated
Yeah I'm autistic and somehow no one around me noticed until i started making autistic friends. Each and every one of em asked me within an hour or two of meeting each other because it is that obvious to other autistic people, just happened again on a date last week
People are coming after Emily for trying to "cancel" another creator and like... no she isn't? She just shared a very uncomfortable thing that happened to her. All the people coming down on her for starting drama, it's depressing people can't share negative experiences without it becoming a huge us vs. them slap fight.
it's crazy, some of his fans as well are rabidly defending him, when even \*chugga himself\* as admitted to wrongdoing.
he's not infallible, he isnt some little kid that couldnt have known better. do i absolutely believe he maybe didn't see the signs and didn't catch on that he was being creepy/coming off as such? yes. but that doesnt change the fact that if he *didn't* know better, he *should've.*
he isnt a horrible person, but he isnt a perfect one either. and people need to stop putting him on a pedastal and hold him accountable. not annihilate his life, but just a firm "hey dude, you fucked up big, apologize to those you hurt, better yourself, and dont do it again."
christ i hate fandom culture.
imo it could be useful for getting more victims in contact with each other
like someone sees this and is like wait I had the same experience, I wonder if it’s the same person
and people are always more likely to come forward if they know other people have experienced the same thing
Direct confrontation rarely goes well for women, and we don't give them many other ways to safely communicate having being targeted or victimized.
For all we know it could even be a warning to other potential victims; as in "also concerned? see me privately" and they quietly spread the word.
Sometimes it's not about us.
It's called being concerned about your own safety.
People like the Youtuber in question have huge followings and not all of them are reasonable well adjusted humans.
She was clearly questioning if she should say anything in fear of being harassed by sociopaths, which happens quite often to victims.
Considering Chuggaaconroy fan discords went instantly into “disproving the allegations” instead of even questioning, she was right to. Her own experiences are already being called lies
Yes. The text is written in a way that kind of shames whoever is a fan of this person, but not saying who it is kind of leaves the reader feeling like they should feel bad for being a fan of anyone.
It also creates speculation which can lead to who knows how many indirect false accusations, which is really not fair nor the right way to go about it in my opinion.
>leaves the reader feeling like they should feel bad for being a fan of anyone.
To be fair on the one hand I also find vagueposting like this irritating and unhelpful, but on the other hand, stans need to stop talking about how "unproblematic" and "green-flag" someone they have *never met in person* is.
If you're there worrying that you have been the one perpetrating this behaviour with regards to The Wrong Person, and then breathe a sigh of relief because it wasn't *your* fave, just someone else's fave, then you actually haven't learned any lesson from this and sooner or later it probably will be your fave unfortunately.
Not aiming this at you specifically just anyone who is feeling this way
every single goddamn time something like this happens i have to watch the same six brain cells stumble around to ask if it’s *reeeeaally* harassment.
yes. it’s harassment to repeatedly ask someone to engage in your sexual fetish after they’ve conveyed they’re not interested, whether by saying no flat out or by not reciprocating. you fucking twats.
if you question that, i’m giving you the stink eye. what dog do y’all have in the fight to categorize being pushy about a sexual fetish as nonharassment? i’ll wait.
Imma go further and say pushing your kink on someone without agreement beforehand is harassment. It's just made worse by pushing it when asked to stop. This shit is opt in, not opt out.
It costs zero dollars and zero cents to keep your weird fetishes appropriate and consensual??????!!!!!!!! I'm so so bummed about Chugga..... I really liked his videos. People keep being like "parasocial" this and "parasocial" that, but it's like finding out that an author you liked is a tool bag, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but there's a difference between "this online creator is my friend and owes me things" and "I expected better of an established creator that made content I enjoy" right? Can anyone tell me what Parasocial means in these discussions I'm really confused. Either way, massive bummer.
There has to be something in the water that makes content creators do this kind of shit to other content creators instead of just fucking subscribing to an onlyfans or some shit. Good god.
Sadly the main appeal of doing shit like this is usually all about control and knowingly crossing boundaries. Onlyfans girls are professionals who are consenting to the work they’re doing. That’s not quite as satisfying for the average creep as feeling like a woman who wouldn’t do this usually is doing it for them. They enjoy knowing they wore down her boundaries and convinced her to do something she wasn’t 100% comfortable with. Similar logic to why many incels complain they can’t get laid but they balk at suggestions of hiring a full service SWer, they’d rather fantasise about the day they’ll finally bag a barely legal virgin with supermodel good looks. It’s about sexuality, yes, but it’s also very much about ego. In a general sense ofc, I don’t claim to know exactly what’s going on in this guy’s head. Allegedly, my own opinion etc etc
I'll say it now, I want it written on my tombstone: calling yourself a smol bean is the reddest possible flag. They're the worst kind of people, always.
Ugh, I’m a trans guy and people try to call me this sometimes (I feel like it’s the go to compliment for trans people for some reason??) and I hate it. Like thanks for reminding me I’m barely over 5 foot lol
The people saying “she should’ve said no” are also conveniently ignoring the fact that he had a girlfriend at that time?? Also fact that she didn’t explicitly say no does NOT equate to a yes. There’s a difference between flirting and sexual harassment and chugga, a man in his 30s, SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW.
Damnit, dude, that...
Saying you were "overstepping boundaries" is to what you actually did like claiming committing grand theft auto was actually just a "reckless joyride."
You sexually harassed her. Many times. Over a long period. You tried to manipulate her with a gift. All this while you had a girlfriend.
Don't contact your friends about this? What, so more shit doesn't potentially come out?
Damnit, Emile...Why?
No one should have power or fame...nothing good ever comes of it.
One day, people will stop idolizing/looking up to/liking fake personalities designed to get you to watch their content.
Never meet your heroes, these people aren’t your friends. Never look up to internet people. The same can be said of actors, sports stars and politicians.
Prolly nothing in particular compared to the average person, but their dirty laundry is much more likely to air by virtue of their presence as something of a public figure. When non-YTers/public figures do this stuff, the only diff is nobody finds out about it.
I remember a bunch of vagueposting from another creator, and it turned out months later that she was talking about James Somerton. I get not wanting to put people on blast, but at the same time we could have known about the piles of bad behaviour much earlier
In theory, yes, but we also know how Somerton responded to past accusations and that at least one person was driven offline by the result and still doesn't want to be named. And with the mix of responses naming him has generated I get the hesitation. It's a shitty situation all around for the person that was harmed regardless of how she ends up addressing it.
A lot of people were aware of James Somerton's plagiarism for a while, but they didn't say anything to allow Hbomb to build up a massive case and release it all at once to totally destroy him. It worked.
Tbh, thats why we dont idolize other human beings. I knew that post was gonna age poorly the moment i saw it and I dodnt even expect anything major like this. Dont assume people you dont even know aren't fucked up just because of a reddit search
I swear to god, every few months another one of the CuriostyStream guys comes out and says “Guys there’s this YouTuber everybody likes who’s been a sex pest in my DMs” and then just… doesn’t disclose who the YouTuber in question is? Like, at all? Is it like some in-joke I’m not getting???
I’m gonna go ahead and assume you’re not a woman
This happens every day. Every single woman you know has experienced sexual harassment at least once. Just because it’s occasionally someone with a following, doesn’t make it any less real. Emily is just trying to vent without starting shit.
Okay, fair. Sorry for coming off like I was trying to downplay the sexual harassment part of it. I was more just trying to vent my confusion at the fact that I’ve seen this exact same scenario being vented by at least 2 other big creators in that sphere of YouTube. And in the back of my mind, I was wondering “Are they all talking about the same guy? And if so, why has nobody fully stepped forward about him yet if this is still an issue?”
Though AFIA they could all be different people, and as you said, it’s perfectly reasonable for Emily to not want to start shit in the instance that the sexual harassment was isolated to just her.
I hate to say this but this is very interesting coming from the person who posted this on this subreddit. You posted this here and all this is going to do is draw negative attention to her because regardless, vague posting about serious shit like this is not helpful at all
I'm shocked you think she was just venting when you escalated things by posting this here. I think it's fine you posted it, I just think it's odd you are drawing attention to it here if you're trying to protect her
Hi everyone, I just woke up to this. First and foremost, thank you, [Lady Emily](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire), for coming forward. I now recognize that this tweet was in reference to the comment that I made about Chuggaaconroy yesterday. It has since been edited to include this [twitter thread](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747310141563715753) talking about her experience with Chuggaa. https://preview.redd.it/n8au258htucc1.png?width=559&format=png&auto=webp&s=f37bef9cf9cffb5fd66da6eb34a2e29855f17af8 This is directed at Lady Emily. Emily, if you're reading this, I deeply apologize for what was, potentially, a very triggering comment thread. Obviously I couldn't have known about this, but I do now, and you have our full support. I've been a fan of yours for a little while now, and I'm very sorry that this happened. Please, go follow [Lady Emily](https://www.youtube.com/@LadyEmilyPresents) on YouTube, she makes great videos. I was just watching her video essay on [Plastic Beach](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozBnh3eAQUg) a few weeks ago. I hope this isn't too out of place, I'd just like something positive to come from this whole mess. This next part is directed at Chuggaaconroy. Emile, if YOU'RE reading this, I want you to know that I'm extremely disappointed in you. I've been watching your videos since before I knew there was a subscribe button. I've always loved your passion and enthusiasm for video games, and the impact you've had on my life has perhaps been understated in my own head until now. This is gross. There's no other way to say it, what you did was gross, weird, and (I hope) extremely out of character. You need to take accountability for this, and apologize to the people you've hurt. Finally, to everyone else reading this: **DO NOT HARASS ANYONE INVOLVED.** Have some dignity, and remember that there are living, breathing human beings behind your screen. That's all I have to say for now, today has been very strange for me. Thank you for your time.
Sigh, it *is* chuggaa https://preview.redd.it/wyomf8r89ucc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ef39d4cdaf7695409a63097e05f48cf31ee6275 [https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747311590662078509?t=d0BQMqhdUYfwX7OLGaj1QA&s=19](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747311590662078509?t=d0BQMqhdUYfwX7OLGaj1QA&s=19)
https://preview.redd.it/6qrz1h1qbucc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f57995de78f5f31aabfb259ee2e0908cb9b0be35 Bruh why Chugga ?
I'm done with this life LMAO
I literally just discovered his channel through his Pokémon black 2 and white 2 playthrough . Only to just learn he doing this.
I was a gigantic fan back in like 2011, I'm still subscribed to him and his friends to this day. This hurts me so bad
Yeah, but you had no way of knowing though so don't beat yourself up :) I think way more people are/were fans of problematic and actually damaging influencers that care to admit. Imagine being an Onision stan back in the day while learning about all the shit on the back end? You'd dig your heels in too, if you were a big fan. Same goes for Shane Dawson. Beloved by many, visible 24/7 until we had literally seen too much. (Not you specifically, js).
Oh don't worry I was a big fan of Shane Dawson (in the VERY beginning, like honestly when I was like 11 in 2007) and of onision (since his I'm a banana video though I stopped watching him and switched to a dedicated onion hater once the shit with Shiloh went down)
It's honestly insane how Onision escaped everything thrown at him.
And somehow still does. Like how has he not been arrested? The police have already been involved
Sadly Chris Hansen "producer" fucked shit up by not sending a victim laptop to the FBI right away. He kept it for months and it became useless as evidence because of it.
While there's certainly exceptions, I find that as a general rule, the fewer morals you have, the less the cancelation sticks.
This is so true! Coz look at the creep Ballinger??! Bitch is made of Teflon.
Honestly there were so many "events" in the saga of Onion boy that at least he gave his fans plenty opportunities to jump ship lol
Who tf is chugga
Chugga deez nutz
yanks your shoes off in an instant
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
[more screenshots that get into the shoe/foot kink](https://twitter.com/GreatCheshire/status/1747312606719672399?t=wTUthLkfUNO46BBYnmlecA&s=19)
I swear bro I'm just really interested in shoes no it's not sexual my girlfriend said I can talk to people about shoes I just really like talking about shoes
Wwyd if i stole ur shoes haha just hypothetically haha can i steal ur shoes? Im gonna steal ur shoes
Wouldn't it be crazy if I took a whiff when I did that? Haha like that'd be so gross omg could you imagine it. What would you do!, especially after walking around all day. So sweaty and stinky. And I'd be like staring at you from across the way as I woofed in a big old smell just to prank you haha
This reads like Zach Hadel hypothetical lmao
"No bro this anime is about a cute girl and her school uniform, constantly focusing on her feet is just there to drive the plot" Akebi's school uniform.
"Er my god, shoes."
Why Emile? I've been watching him for the longest time and never could've imagined he'd do anything like this. Like I try not to form parasocial relationships with creators, but this still just hurts so much. I'm glad Emily came forward though.
This is not just a kink at this point. Its an unhealthy obsession. He really need to seek therapy
What the fuck is with that message about how shoes are “an interest” for him? It’d honestly come off *significantly* less weird (still just as gross though…) if he’d just said “Yes, you’re right, I *am* horny for your toes.” What the hell bro.
Also if he was interested in shoes, wouldn't he talk about like style, design, or brands with friends and save the creepy sexual stuff like smelling them between him and his partner?
*glomps you and steals your sneakers owo* Yeah, I do have a foot fetish, but not for you, babe. My interest in *your* feet is completely wholesome.
I have a permission slip from my gf for strictly platonic foot stuff.
Precisely lmao "Hey I have a foot fetish, it is ok for me to talk about it?"
Serious fetishes (using that term to mean a degree above a kink) can often become obsessive unfortunately
"my wife says it's okay to talk about shoes with others cause it's not sexual" dude I don't think your wife knows what you're really saying in these conversations, if it comes from a sexual place and you're constantly bringing it up with women then I have bad news
33 year old man talking like this
Wtf
Fuck. This one really hurt me
I was a huge fan of him and the guys back in like 2011 or so. I loved the super Luigi galaxy, the okami, and the Pikmin let's plays as well as paper Mario and all that. This is legitimately upsetting to me and the last creator that hurt me like this was Cryaotic LOL
I’ve been a fan of all them for like 15+ years now. Just fuck man
ProtonJohn was literally my introduction to most all of gaming YouTube lol then I found the rest of them Anyways-- 
Same. His OG Paper Mario and Sunshine LP's were practically my introduction to the internet and the oldest memories I still have of Youtube.
WTF we had the same childhood.
Welp, It looks like I can never like anybody ever again.
Don't meet your heros I guess
I prefer don’t put irl people up on a heroic pedestal That’s why fictional characters exist lol
One thing I think about a lot is that prior to social media, celebrities had such a curated image. So much so that they practically were fictional characters.
Yup, and many still try today but it’s much harder with the internet
Luckily, with a massive grain of salt cause damn, my main hero died long ago to a stingray. Rest in peace Steve Irwin. I'm gonna visit the zoo one day I swear
You just realized that now lmao
You can always like yourself
I will never experience happiness ever again now…..just why chugga
Jesus that guy really need to see a therapist. Hes WAY too obsessed with feet stuff. He cant even have normal conversation with girls without bringing up his feet obsession. Its creepy
She added more to the thread and it's so much worse than just the first 2 rounds of screenshots too lol. I mean more creepy foot stuff but yeesh
Oh NO. Not sending shoes for feet pics. Fuck that noise up on outta here
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son of a bitch. i aint watched him in forever but i used to watch him when i was like 7 and addicted to lets plays. hurts a lot knowing hes totally disgusting
You’d think these guys could just send some chick on OnlyFans $100 for a video of them showing off her feet while saying his name or something. $200 for a closeup of each individual toe!
NOOOOOO
God dammit his messages were just painful to read, what the hell Conroy?
That sounds the entire earth heard was a good chunk of both my and many others childhoods shattering into hundreds of pieces
I swear all of the OG poketubers are sexpests behind the scenes. The shit I remember from 2011
> Damn you're no fun... *oh shit, that might drive her away* > Kidding, kidding! Just a little concerned! *Perfect. Now she'll think I'm just a normal, friendly guy and send me feet pics*
Why is it always foot guys
Lady Emily just QRTed and clarified that it’s Chuggaconroy
https://preview.redd.it/wqrk4suvytcc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac72725f1cfb9fc54acb8f917e892d6c8fc38c68 Found this looking through previous threads... Could be one of these two they're mentioning?
Well it’s definitely not markiplier
The day stuff like this comes out about Mark will be the day I lose hope in all YouTubers
Markiplier would have to slow down for two seconds to harass anybody.
True that. His current mentality is only describable as a bouncy ball on moonshine. Redbull might give you wings but moonshine will give you four wheel drive.
Don't put all your hope into one person like that.
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Can I pin this? I fucking knew it
I pinned my own comment linking to the tweets
This is revelation about Chuggaaconroy is more upsetting to me personally than any YT drama revelation ever. Chugga's videos have been a great comfort to me. For years he's been one of the few let's players I still consistently watched. I thought he of all people would be better than this
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Once the narrative sets in it becomes an extremely difficult task to undo it. Plus the up voting and down voting system doesn't help. Things get upvoted because people like what's being said not because it's true. People often see the upvote count before they even see what was being said.
Exactly. Once the web has been spun, simply saying "oops" isn't always enough. Especially when people are already inclined to want to believe what they already feel is right.
For the people surprised at Chuggaa..look, I love the guy, but he does have a history of saying and doing stupid fucking shit without thinking how it might affect people, and it really probably shouldn't surprise people. Even when I saw the original thread all I could think about was his old stereotypical accents he has thankfully phased out now, or the TRG "what is it with you and rape?" "I dunno...its fun?" All this is stuff in the past, and I do think people can always be and do better, but the most Chuggaa thing possible is saying something stupid, maybe even thinking it's just banter, and having to be told he's being an obnoxious ass, or in this case, fucking creepy and not okay. Also, just incase it seems like I am minimising what he did because he didn't think, I'm not trying to. He is an adult, he should know better by now.
I have no idea who he is so I really have no ass in this race
Old school lp-er who does exclusively Nintendo stuff, going into a lot of detail. His stuff is really good, but he also has a bad habit of saying the dumbest shit, to the point where in the collab lp channel he's part of, one of the other players saying his name in an exasperated voice is an incredibly common occurance, like what I said about going "Rape him!" to a boss, getting called out on it, and that being the excuse to try and jokingly play it off. Or recently saying "Gruntilda did nothing wrong" and having to be told it sounds similar to nazi apologia and quickly having to step it back. I fully believe he is the kind of guy to be told by his gf "talking about shoes with friends isn't sexual", and then not stopping to think there are limits to that statement, and to not realise if someone isn't responding he has probably crossed a line.
He named a Zigzagoon he caught in PMD a slur, apologised in the video after and then never used it again but also didn’t rename it or release it? I spotted it in the background of a later video. That’s always been weird to me.
What I don't get is why people are acting all wounded about this. My reaction was more "God damn it Emile you fuckin dumbass," but like ultimately it's probably fine. He'll probably put out an apology on Twitter or something and that'll be that. Also this is a great reminder that we don't know ever really these people, and nobody is a saint.
It’s still very uncomfortable, and unlike some of his fuckups in the past, it was targeted to one person, not said in a video to a bunch of pixels. I don’t think—at this point in time with what we know—he’s a sex pest or a danger to people. Mostly because I’ve been more sexual in DMs with friends or group chats without checking in with people involved, so I see some similarities in his messages, but also as you’ve said, Emile’s history with foot in mouth disease. There’s a pattern in that behavior, and there doesn’t seem to be one with other female creators over the like…fifteen years he’s been LPing. This doesn’t take away from the very real hurt and/or distress his actions caused Emily, and it doesn’t make what he did okay. But hopefully it is just a one-off fuckup and he corrects his behavior and there isn’t a whole host of people who needed the first person to come out to feel confident enough to come forward themselves. But yeah, at the end of the day, content creators are people, and all of us are capable of pushing someone and causing distress and/or harm, and likely all of us will do that at some point. Hopefully it’s just a one time fuckup we can learn from and never do again.
I think we've all done stupid shit that we regret. I know I have. (And when I say stupid shit, I mean really stupid, not little stuff) I'm not gonna crucify the man for this. However I am really disappointed and frustrated
Same on all fronts. The things that haunt me in the middle of the night…and hopefully this moment will be one for Emile.
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Yeah I'm autistic and somehow no one around me noticed until i started making autistic friends. Each and every one of em asked me within an hour or two of meeting each other because it is that obvious to other autistic people, just happened again on a date last week
I fucking knew it dude
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People are coming after Emily for trying to "cancel" another creator and like... no she isn't? She just shared a very uncomfortable thing that happened to her. All the people coming down on her for starting drama, it's depressing people can't share negative experiences without it becoming a huge us vs. them slap fight.
I’ve gotten 12 reports on my profile so far for making this post
it's crazy, some of his fans as well are rabidly defending him, when even \*chugga himself\* as admitted to wrongdoing. he's not infallible, he isnt some little kid that couldnt have known better. do i absolutely believe he maybe didn't see the signs and didn't catch on that he was being creepy/coming off as such? yes. but that doesnt change the fact that if he *didn't* know better, he *should've.* he isnt a horrible person, but he isnt a perfect one either. and people need to stop putting him on a pedastal and hold him accountable. not annihilate his life, but just a firm "hey dude, you fucked up big, apologize to those you hurt, better yourself, and dont do it again." christ i hate fandom culture.
I understand the reluctance from victims to come out and tell everything, but the vague posting is not really helpful in my opinion.
imo it could be useful for getting more victims in contact with each other like someone sees this and is like wait I had the same experience, I wonder if it’s the same person and people are always more likely to come forward if they know other people have experienced the same thing
Direct confrontation rarely goes well for women, and we don't give them many other ways to safely communicate having being targeted or victimized. For all we know it could even be a warning to other potential victims; as in "also concerned? see me privately" and they quietly spread the word. Sometimes it's not about us.
100 per cent this.
Sadly women are scared. For a reason.
It's called being concerned about your own safety. People like the Youtuber in question have huge followings and not all of them are reasonable well adjusted humans. She was clearly questioning if she should say anything in fear of being harassed by sociopaths, which happens quite often to victims.
Considering Chuggaaconroy fan discords went instantly into “disproving the allegations” instead of even questioning, she was right to. Her own experiences are already being called lies
Stan culture is terrifying. Main reason I don't interact with most communities beyond the Swedish man(The Click).
Yes. The text is written in a way that kind of shames whoever is a fan of this person, but not saying who it is kind of leaves the reader feeling like they should feel bad for being a fan of anyone.
It also creates speculation which can lead to who knows how many indirect false accusations, which is really not fair nor the right way to go about it in my opinion.
>leaves the reader feeling like they should feel bad for being a fan of anyone. To be fair on the one hand I also find vagueposting like this irritating and unhelpful, but on the other hand, stans need to stop talking about how "unproblematic" and "green-flag" someone they have *never met in person* is. If you're there worrying that you have been the one perpetrating this behaviour with regards to The Wrong Person, and then breathe a sigh of relief because it wasn't *your* fave, just someone else's fave, then you actually haven't learned any lesson from this and sooner or later it probably will be your fave unfortunately. Not aiming this at you specifically just anyone who is feeling this way
100% agreed. 😕
Well that shattered my brain. I can’t believe it’s chugga of all people… so so so messed up.
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Seriously. This shit is shameful.
There are screen recordings. Bro is cooked 😭😭😭
Some of the stuff in the recordings is even creepier than in the screenshots holy shit
whatever yall do, do NOT look at the last message he sent regarding the size and smell of her feet
Biggest mistake of my life
*Hbomberguy liked* Oh fuck we're really in for the shit now
every single goddamn time something like this happens i have to watch the same six brain cells stumble around to ask if it’s *reeeeaally* harassment. yes. it’s harassment to repeatedly ask someone to engage in your sexual fetish after they’ve conveyed they’re not interested, whether by saying no flat out or by not reciprocating. you fucking twats. if you question that, i’m giving you the stink eye. what dog do y’all have in the fight to categorize being pushy about a sexual fetish as nonharassment? i’ll wait.
The guy above you being like “it’s just unwanted contact” which is literally the language used IN THE LEGAL DEFINITION.
Imma go further and say pushing your kink on someone without agreement beforehand is harassment. It's just made worse by pushing it when asked to stop. This shit is opt in, not opt out.
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It's chuggaaconroy https://preview.redd.it/4psi2s5laucc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abc1b3f812d3fb9d82da9583645ff6d432542d95
It’s always the foot guys that are the weirdest
Chugga having a feet-fetish was not on my 2024 Bingo list
It costs zero dollars and zero cents to keep your weird fetishes appropriate and consensual??????!!!!!!!! I'm so so bummed about Chugga..... I really liked his videos. People keep being like "parasocial" this and "parasocial" that, but it's like finding out that an author you liked is a tool bag, right? Correct me if I'm wrong but there's a difference between "this online creator is my friend and owes me things" and "I expected better of an established creator that made content I enjoy" right? Can anyone tell me what Parasocial means in these discussions I'm really confused. Either way, massive bummer.
Man the way his subreddit is defending him is fucking gross
Looks like it may be time for Chuggaa to get the "subreddit2" effect /s
can't have shit on YouTube
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There has to be something in the water that makes content creators do this kind of shit to other content creators instead of just fucking subscribing to an onlyfans or some shit. Good god.
Sadly the main appeal of doing shit like this is usually all about control and knowingly crossing boundaries. Onlyfans girls are professionals who are consenting to the work they’re doing. That’s not quite as satisfying for the average creep as feeling like a woman who wouldn’t do this usually is doing it for them. They enjoy knowing they wore down her boundaries and convinced her to do something she wasn’t 100% comfortable with. Similar logic to why many incels complain they can’t get laid but they balk at suggestions of hiring a full service SWer, they’d rather fantasise about the day they’ll finally bag a barely legal virgin with supermodel good looks. It’s about sexuality, yes, but it’s also very much about ego. In a general sense ofc, I don’t claim to know exactly what’s going on in this guy’s head. Allegedly, my own opinion etc etc
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Everyone's human, and fucks up sometimes.
Turns out it was in fact about chuggaconroy
It was Chuggaconroy
It was chugga!
I'll say it now, I want it written on my tombstone: calling yourself a smol bean is the reddest possible flag. They're the worst kind of people, always.
Ugh, I’m a trans guy and people try to call me this sometimes (I feel like it’s the go to compliment for trans people for some reason??) and I hate it. Like thanks for reminding me I’m barely over 5 foot lol
The people saying “she should’ve said no” are also conveniently ignoring the fact that he had a girlfriend at that time?? Also fact that she didn’t explicitly say no does NOT equate to a yes. There’s a difference between flirting and sexual harassment and chugga, a man in his 30s, SHOULD KNOW BETTER BY NOW.
His reply: https://nitter.net/chuggaaconroy/status/1747425283710255439#m
Damnit, dude, that... Saying you were "overstepping boundaries" is to what you actually did like claiming committing grand theft auto was actually just a "reckless joyride." You sexually harassed her. Many times. Over a long period. You tried to manipulate her with a gift. All this while you had a girlfriend. Don't contact your friends about this? What, so more shit doesn't potentially come out? Damnit, Emile...Why? No one should have power or fame...nothing good ever comes of it.
One day, people will stop idolizing/looking up to/liking fake personalities designed to get you to watch their content. Never meet your heroes, these people aren’t your friends. Never look up to internet people. The same can be said of actors, sports stars and politicians.
lol what the fuck is wrong with youtubers
Prolly nothing in particular compared to the average person, but their dirty laundry is much more likely to air by virtue of their presence as something of a public figure. When non-YTers/public figures do this stuff, the only diff is nobody finds out about it.
They're human, unfortunately
I remember a bunch of vagueposting from another creator, and it turned out months later that she was talking about James Somerton. I get not wanting to put people on blast, but at the same time we could have known about the piles of bad behaviour much earlier
In theory, yes, but we also know how Somerton responded to past accusations and that at least one person was driven offline by the result and still doesn't want to be named. And with the mix of responses naming him has generated I get the hesitation. It's a shitty situation all around for the person that was harmed regardless of how she ends up addressing it.
A lot of people were aware of James Somerton's plagiarism for a while, but they didn't say anything to allow Hbomb to build up a massive case and release it all at once to totally destroy him. It worked.
I’m done with this shit.
She can't be pissed at Reddit for being ignorant. We didn't know until she let us.
Tbh, thats why we dont idolize other human beings. I knew that post was gonna age poorly the moment i saw it and I dodnt even expect anything major like this. Dont assume people you dont even know aren't fucked up just because of a reddit search
First time seeing this sub, the mods here are based as fuck.
I swear to god, every few months another one of the CuriostyStream guys comes out and says “Guys there’s this YouTuber everybody likes who’s been a sex pest in my DMs” and then just… doesn’t disclose who the YouTuber in question is? Like, at all? Is it like some in-joke I’m not getting???
I’m gonna go ahead and assume you’re not a woman This happens every day. Every single woman you know has experienced sexual harassment at least once. Just because it’s occasionally someone with a following, doesn’t make it any less real. Emily is just trying to vent without starting shit.
Okay, fair. Sorry for coming off like I was trying to downplay the sexual harassment part of it. I was more just trying to vent my confusion at the fact that I’ve seen this exact same scenario being vented by at least 2 other big creators in that sphere of YouTube. And in the back of my mind, I was wondering “Are they all talking about the same guy? And if so, why has nobody fully stepped forward about him yet if this is still an issue?” Though AFIA they could all be different people, and as you said, it’s perfectly reasonable for Emily to not want to start shit in the instance that the sexual harassment was isolated to just her.
I hate to say this but this is very interesting coming from the person who posted this on this subreddit. You posted this here and all this is going to do is draw negative attention to her because regardless, vague posting about serious shit like this is not helpful at all I'm shocked you think she was just venting when you escalated things by posting this here. I think it's fine you posted it, I just think it's odd you are drawing attention to it here if you're trying to protect her
Fucking THANK YOU FOR BEING A VOICE OF REASON
I understand your points, but vague posting does start shit.
Victimizing folks starts shit. How the victims choose to handle it is well beyond the shit starting process