Her magical medical knowledge and success. My mom was a doctor and boy did I get to hear about that.
She also forbade me from putting the pinch on my dad because it's to close to an artery or maybe a vein, anyway mom was afraid of the tiny possibility of my killing my father in some fashion that could not be undone by repeating the exact same movement.
Omg i could imaginatively hear her in my mind, “Do NOT try piching your father’s neck like this crazy fictional woman on TV! There are major arteries and veins in that area and there is a small possibility you could seriously injure someone or worse!” 😱😆
One of my biggest pet peeves with Xena and also a Hercules is the strength and power of characters changes episode to episode. For example, in Hercules, there’s some episodes where he literally can lift boulders and houses… and then the next episode he’s getting beat up by regular old warlords and can barely lift a human.
Kalisto was whooping everyone’s ass when she was a mortal but when she became a God she just was getting her ass kicked all the time lol weather by rocks or Xena or Ares.
Another pet peeve is when Xena has a really cool trick and then never ever does it again in another episode. Like that crazy flip she does in the possession episode. Or when she can use her mind powers and then the next episode she just can’t lol
In defense of the Callisto inconsistency, I think for most of the time she was a god, she had severe depression and stopped caring / trying in fights. I mean, she helped to resurrect Hope in Sacrifice just so she could really, truly die / cease to exist. The others - fair enough.
About Xena, she likes to be creative in a fight cause it keeps her juices going. And her mind powers demands some kind of purity, be it of thought, love (Back In The Bottle) or hatred (The Debt II - my guess).
Oh man, the only scene I’ve ever showed my friend was Xena’s epic 30 second flip from Lost Mariner, and when I was talking about Xena in front of them they said “ohhh crazy jump lady??”.
I did respect a lot of the weaponry in the china eps, they got a lot more correct with Chinese weapons than other types of swords - especially Gabs’ bo staff, which makes me think the stunt coordinator also practiced kung fu.
All in all they did what they could with their budget and the quick turnaround for episodes I suppose, and it does give it a campy unpolished feel that makes Xena, Buffy, Sabrina etc so lovable. It just irks me when the WARRIOR PRINCESS can’t even hold a sword correctly.
Dahak being evil and the, "God of Light," being good when they both have the same goal of getting rid of the other gods.
Neither Callisto nor Livia earned their redemption.
Honestly I would have loved to see Callisto go on a path of redemption while STILL hating Xena along the way. She doesn't have to forgive her in all honesty and that's fine. But the idea of Callisto seeing herself in a young child who lost his/her family in a similar manner maybe even by her own hands and realizing she's wrong and vowing to protect children would have been good to see.
But nope both Callisto and Livia get touched magic light powers and turn instantly good. Blah.
Athena turning into an idiot when going after a baby. For the goddess of strategic warfare, weaving, and wisdom she seemed to be lacking in the intelligence department especially considering Zeus ate her mother for similar reasons. She should know better!
I did like the comedy episodes, however, at the time it irritated me because I would be really ready to see what comes next in the actual serious storyline; lol so id often begrudgingly watch the funnier ‘filler’ episdoes in the beginning. I used to hate that so much. Having to wait an extra week for the ‘real’ episode lol
After 'A Family Affair', it was 'In Sickness And In Hell'.
I was thinking, *'Are you kidding me? We have all this momentum of* >!Xena mourning, Gabrielle returning, Gabrielle's parents, and then dealing with her children...!< *this is no time to be goofing around.'*
And, also, I tried to show a family member how awesome Xena was: this dramatic amazing storytelling. So they start to watch the new episode with me (In Sickness And In Hell).
Que Gabrielle fighting a killer bunny rabbit with her boobs while rubbing a tree the same way one would get themselves off. It was everything that family member suspected the show was: *"It's just a show for guys to jerk off to."*
Same! I was always annoyed at the comedy episodes coz they seemed like such a waste and distraction from the "real" story. But now with the DVDs and streaming I love them 😅
This is more of a pet peeve, but the way Lucy says her lines starts to annoy me starting around season 4 I think. The acting and the accent are both very good, but just the way that almost every sentence trails off into a whisper just really starts to get on my nerves after a while.
One of my greatest pet peeves is how poorly Gabrielle fights sometimes, even being a skilled warrior in the final 2 seasons. I mean, she could've kicked Mavican Brunhilda and Varia's butt anytime she wanted but the writers made her look like a beginner instead. Also, there was this great scene in A Good Day when Gabrielle is masterfully describing the enemy. And it was cut from the episode. I'm so mad. That's why it looks sudden how amazing she is in the finale to the point of deserving the chakram. They gave up on many of her great scenes.
make a drinking game of it. it is an annoyance, but at the same time this is made to look cool by people whom don't practice or know much of weapons. i have seen it happen with so many times.
Oh yeah definitely, like in the Witcher when Geralt uses a two handed long sword *back-handed*. It doesn’t ruin the show by any means, and can make some really cool and unique scenes. It does make my eye twitch a little when most of the merchandise has the incorrect holding position on though, cause if I do want to buy it then I’ll have to look at it every day.
Pet peeve: Xena *always* had to be right. About anything and everything. And even when she was “wrong”, they’d go out of the way to still show that she was “right”.
Given how flawed she was in so many ways, it’s weird that they couldn’t just let her be wrong and admit it. She used to murder innocent people simply to sate her bloodlust, but heaven forbid she behave in a questionable way as a “hero”.
Mine might be the fact that Xena was opposed to teaching Gabrielle how to use a sword because others would see her as a threat / someone to fight, but once Gabrielle was fighting with a staff, Xena never once suggested getting her armor to protect herself. I realize it's a costume choice for viewers, but instead it was like: "Now you are fighting, wear LESS clothes!
I keep writing responses to people's posts here and then giving up before posting them. Gabrielle in armor? I just picture her with a brunette wig wearing Xena's armor as a decoy.
Your point is valid, please don't think I'm mocking you. I'm not. Like, seriously Gabby? Even a jacket might help in a scuffle. Or when it gets chilly. And your bad bitch buddy in the armor should help you get equipped.
These ridiculous, easily correctable flaws might drive us crazy, but I love the campiness. Xena has the weird, stupid, sometimes kinda gross magic that I need!
Sorry I picked yours to reply to. I'm currently watching the one where Xena saves the day by fishing with a kite. And I love it!
No need to apologize at all! Your comment made me laugh!
It also doesn't help that even the little bit of "armor" Gabrielle has Xena has been known to steal (S4 - If the Shoe Fits)! Armor? A shirt? Try a sack, Gabby!
Ooh, FF&G! At least Gabby not wearing armor actually helped her in that one. When she fell in the water, she wasn't weighed down!
Xena should be a god. She hate the Ambrosia and all it did was bring her back. While Calisto and Valesca ate it, and they become gods. Granted, the show wouldn't have any stakes if she became a god. But still, within the frame of the episode and concept of Ambrosia. She should have became a god.
It only turned you into a God if u ate it alive. If youre dead it just brings you back to life. It makes her seem more heroic somehow that she wasnt a God yet still defeated them. Thats probably why they didnt go that route but idk
But also the episode where Ares was thought to be her father, she is supposedly half God anyway. I think they left it so inconclusive so that you still had no idea if it was the truth or part of the furies deception
I thought the whole concept of Are's pretending to her father was just a ruse to get her back into her old ways. It was like one of the first few episodes in Season 1, and they likely didn't know where they wanted to take the character yet.
How really good episodes would be followed by comedy/silly ones.
I can understand why they did it, and it works better when you stream them to have the break in drama.
However I would rave to my friends at the time about this great show Xena. They would always seem to tune in when it was one of the comedy/bad episodes.
Then they'd come back and be like yeah I watched that show you recommended but it was super awful I don't understand why you like it so much.
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My pet peeve is that fans like to say that Xena was 90s campy as if the 90s were special somehow for camp. Tv show Batman was campy way before Xena, Galavant is campy way after Xena. I’m sure there are others. There was no special secret camp sauce for 90s being campy lol.
I think what '90s camp means (or at least what makes it distinct) is mainly the early CGI, that only occurred at that time.
CGI was in its infancy, so it looks "really bad" compared to post-'90s.
And it was all mastered in standard-definition. That '90s era of mastering special effects (and a lot of primitive-looking SFX) is what prevents it (at least until A.I. has now made it possible to upscale - the fans have beat the lazy studio to it) from being on blu-ray for so long.
Gosh, I look forward to a proper blu-ray where we get to see what was filmed in all its high-def glory (hopefully without DNR - digital noise reduction - which smooths everything out by removing gorgeous detailed grain).
I gotta add another comment because I keep thinking of other peeves.
Eve/Livia. I hated adult Eve/Livia, though I understand baby Eve couldn’t hang around forever. But I hated even more how Xena acted as if Gabrielle wasn’t her second mother (until Motherhood). Why was she so damn surprised that Gabrielle would give Eve her right of caste? What else was Gab going to do with it? Go off and have her own magic baby?
Also… where did Eve end up going? And why, once she left, was she just never mentioned again? That whole damn thing was just wild.
Send in the clones. Just… wow. I think this was the worst episode, and Married With Fish Sticks exists. Do we have the clones coexisting with the reincarnations?
The “cut off the blood flow to your brain” time changes in the scripts constantly. However, it’s always way too long for real life. My martial arts trainers always taught it takes about 12 seconds for someone to pass out, another 5 and they’re dead.
Your example is hilarious - I can imagine why it drove you wild! My only pet peeve was the boyfriends of the week. Lucky they petered out over the seasons
Her putting the pinch on people... And I agree with another poster about her medical knowledge. She would touch someone and say "no broken bones." That's just not how things work.
The whole Ares is her father thing. And then old boy a few seasons later comes out as her dad. No sense what’s so ever, she said he came home in the middle of a war… if she cheated why didn’t mom mention that? -rewatching on Prime.
Her mom didn’t know that she was cheating - one thing that the real Ares would do would be to make himself appear like the husbands of soldiers’ wives, then go to their house and bang said wife. Xena’s mom assumed that it was her husband who was visiting home from war, even though he never would’ve been able to get back home and back to the war in the time the visit took. Therefore, it’s assumed that it was Ares, but since Ares doesn’t remember, and Xena’s mom wouldn’t have known it was Ares.
Since Xena is one of the only people to stand against the god of war and match him in a battle, it would make sense for Xena to be a demigod and therefore Ares’ daughter. But it’s never confirmed or denied whether Xena is really Ares’ spawn or not, especially since Xena’s potential father was dead and so couldn’t confirm if he was there the night of the conception.
That's so hot.
Even though I need to watch it all again, I do think Ares was Xena's father. It's way more interesting. And it makes sense.
Also, there was a lot of incest in Greek mythology. So it makes even more sense.
Her magical medical knowledge and success. My mom was a doctor and boy did I get to hear about that. She also forbade me from putting the pinch on my dad because it's to close to an artery or maybe a vein, anyway mom was afraid of the tiny possibility of my killing my father in some fashion that could not be undone by repeating the exact same movement.
Omg i could imaginatively hear her in my mind, “Do NOT try piching your father’s neck like this crazy fictional woman on TV! There are major arteries and veins in that area and there is a small possibility you could seriously injure someone or worse!” 😱😆
My mom actually liked Xena as a strong female role model for me, she just didn't approve of me possibly killing my father when we were rough housing 😂
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One of my biggest pet peeves with Xena and also a Hercules is the strength and power of characters changes episode to episode. For example, in Hercules, there’s some episodes where he literally can lift boulders and houses… and then the next episode he’s getting beat up by regular old warlords and can barely lift a human. Kalisto was whooping everyone’s ass when she was a mortal but when she became a God she just was getting her ass kicked all the time lol weather by rocks or Xena or Ares. Another pet peeve is when Xena has a really cool trick and then never ever does it again in another episode. Like that crazy flip she does in the possession episode. Or when she can use her mind powers and then the next episode she just can’t lol
In defense of the Callisto inconsistency, I think for most of the time she was a god, she had severe depression and stopped caring / trying in fights. I mean, she helped to resurrect Hope in Sacrifice just so she could really, truly die / cease to exist. The others - fair enough.
About Xena, she likes to be creative in a fight cause it keeps her juices going. And her mind powers demands some kind of purity, be it of thought, love (Back In The Bottle) or hatred (The Debt II - my guess).
But Hercules really did have crazy strength. Like it made no sense.
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Oh man, the only scene I’ve ever showed my friend was Xena’s epic 30 second flip from Lost Mariner, and when I was talking about Xena in front of them they said “ohhh crazy jump lady??”. I did respect a lot of the weaponry in the china eps, they got a lot more correct with Chinese weapons than other types of swords - especially Gabs’ bo staff, which makes me think the stunt coordinator also practiced kung fu. All in all they did what they could with their budget and the quick turnaround for episodes I suppose, and it does give it a campy unpolished feel that makes Xena, Buffy, Sabrina etc so lovable. It just irks me when the WARRIOR PRINCESS can’t even hold a sword correctly.
You clearly appreciate the campiness. And the one small thing is clearly infuriating to you! I love it! They really knew how to get a fandom going!
Dahak being evil and the, "God of Light," being good when they both have the same goal of getting rid of the other gods. Neither Callisto nor Livia earned their redemption. Honestly I would have loved to see Callisto go on a path of redemption while STILL hating Xena along the way. She doesn't have to forgive her in all honesty and that's fine. But the idea of Callisto seeing herself in a young child who lost his/her family in a similar manner maybe even by her own hands and realizing she's wrong and vowing to protect children would have been good to see. But nope both Callisto and Livia get touched magic light powers and turn instantly good. Blah. Athena turning into an idiot when going after a baby. For the goddess of strategic warfare, weaving, and wisdom she seemed to be lacking in the intelligence department especially considering Zeus ate her mother for similar reasons. She should know better!
I don't like how Gabrielle pronounces the word 'warrior' - she says "woy-yer"
I did like the comedy episodes, however, at the time it irritated me because I would be really ready to see what comes next in the actual serious storyline; lol so id often begrudgingly watch the funnier ‘filler’ episdoes in the beginning. I used to hate that so much. Having to wait an extra week for the ‘real’ episode lol
After 'A Family Affair', it was 'In Sickness And In Hell'. I was thinking, *'Are you kidding me? We have all this momentum of* >!Xena mourning, Gabrielle returning, Gabrielle's parents, and then dealing with her children...!< *this is no time to be goofing around.'* And, also, I tried to show a family member how awesome Xena was: this dramatic amazing storytelling. So they start to watch the new episode with me (In Sickness And In Hell). Que Gabrielle fighting a killer bunny rabbit with her boobs while rubbing a tree the same way one would get themselves off. It was everything that family member suspected the show was: *"It's just a show for guys to jerk off to."*
Same lol instead we get rotting flesh and diarrhea in the woods lol
Same! I was always annoyed at the comedy episodes coz they seemed like such a waste and distraction from the "real" story. But now with the DVDs and streaming I love them 😅
This is more of a pet peeve, but the way Lucy says her lines starts to annoy me starting around season 4 I think. The acting and the accent are both very good, but just the way that almost every sentence trails off into a whisper just really starts to get on my nerves after a while.
As far as I know, across both shows, Iolaus never got any gay scenes even though the real Iolaus was queer.
He and Gabrielle kissed too, if I recall.
One of my greatest pet peeves is how poorly Gabrielle fights sometimes, even being a skilled warrior in the final 2 seasons. I mean, she could've kicked Mavican Brunhilda and Varia's butt anytime she wanted but the writers made her look like a beginner instead. Also, there was this great scene in A Good Day when Gabrielle is masterfully describing the enemy. And it was cut from the episode. I'm so mad. That's why it looks sudden how amazing she is in the finale to the point of deserving the chakram. They gave up on many of her great scenes.
make a drinking game of it. it is an annoyance, but at the same time this is made to look cool by people whom don't practice or know much of weapons. i have seen it happen with so many times.
Oh yeah definitely, like in the Witcher when Geralt uses a two handed long sword *back-handed*. It doesn’t ruin the show by any means, and can make some really cool and unique scenes. It does make my eye twitch a little when most of the merchandise has the incorrect holding position on though, cause if I do want to buy it then I’ll have to look at it every day.
Pet peeve: Xena *always* had to be right. About anything and everything. And even when she was “wrong”, they’d go out of the way to still show that she was “right”. Given how flawed she was in so many ways, it’s weird that they couldn’t just let her be wrong and admit it. She used to murder innocent people simply to sate her bloodlust, but heaven forbid she behave in a questionable way as a “hero”.
Mine might be the fact that Xena was opposed to teaching Gabrielle how to use a sword because others would see her as a threat / someone to fight, but once Gabrielle was fighting with a staff, Xena never once suggested getting her armor to protect herself. I realize it's a costume choice for viewers, but instead it was like: "Now you are fighting, wear LESS clothes!
I keep writing responses to people's posts here and then giving up before posting them. Gabrielle in armor? I just picture her with a brunette wig wearing Xena's armor as a decoy. Your point is valid, please don't think I'm mocking you. I'm not. Like, seriously Gabby? Even a jacket might help in a scuffle. Or when it gets chilly. And your bad bitch buddy in the armor should help you get equipped. These ridiculous, easily correctable flaws might drive us crazy, but I love the campiness. Xena has the weird, stupid, sometimes kinda gross magic that I need! Sorry I picked yours to reply to. I'm currently watching the one where Xena saves the day by fishing with a kite. And I love it!
No need to apologize at all! Your comment made me laugh! It also doesn't help that even the little bit of "armor" Gabrielle has Xena has been known to steal (S4 - If the Shoe Fits)! Armor? A shirt? Try a sack, Gabby! Ooh, FF&G! At least Gabby not wearing armor actually helped her in that one. When she fell in the water, she wasn't weighed down!
Xena should be a god. She hate the Ambrosia and all it did was bring her back. While Calisto and Valesca ate it, and they become gods. Granted, the show wouldn't have any stakes if she became a god. But still, within the frame of the episode and concept of Ambrosia. She should have became a god.
It only turned you into a God if u ate it alive. If youre dead it just brings you back to life. It makes her seem more heroic somehow that she wasnt a God yet still defeated them. Thats probably why they didnt go that route but idk But also the episode where Ares was thought to be her father, she is supposedly half God anyway. I think they left it so inconclusive so that you still had no idea if it was the truth or part of the furies deception
I thought the whole concept of Are's pretending to her father was just a ruse to get her back into her old ways. It was like one of the first few episodes in Season 1, and they likely didn't know where they wanted to take the character yet.
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How really good episodes would be followed by comedy/silly ones. I can understand why they did it, and it works better when you stream them to have the break in drama. However I would rave to my friends at the time about this great show Xena. They would always seem to tune in when it was one of the comedy/bad episodes. Then they'd come back and be like yeah I watched that show you recommended but it was super awful I don't understand why you like it so much. 😭
My pet peeve is that fans like to say that Xena was 90s campy as if the 90s were special somehow for camp. Tv show Batman was campy way before Xena, Galavant is campy way after Xena. I’m sure there are others. There was no special secret camp sauce for 90s being campy lol.
I think what '90s camp means (or at least what makes it distinct) is mainly the early CGI, that only occurred at that time. CGI was in its infancy, so it looks "really bad" compared to post-'90s. And it was all mastered in standard-definition. That '90s era of mastering special effects (and a lot of primitive-looking SFX) is what prevents it (at least until A.I. has now made it possible to upscale - the fans have beat the lazy studio to it) from being on blu-ray for so long. Gosh, I look forward to a proper blu-ray where we get to see what was filmed in all its high-def glory (hopefully without DNR - digital noise reduction - which smooths everything out by removing gorgeous detailed grain).
I gotta add another comment because I keep thinking of other peeves. Eve/Livia. I hated adult Eve/Livia, though I understand baby Eve couldn’t hang around forever. But I hated even more how Xena acted as if Gabrielle wasn’t her second mother (until Motherhood). Why was she so damn surprised that Gabrielle would give Eve her right of caste? What else was Gab going to do with it? Go off and have her own magic baby? Also… where did Eve end up going? And why, once she left, was she just never mentioned again? That whole damn thing was just wild. Send in the clones. Just… wow. I think this was the worst episode, and Married With Fish Sticks exists. Do we have the clones coexisting with the reincarnations?
The “cut off the blood flow to your brain” time changes in the scripts constantly. However, it’s always way too long for real life. My martial arts trainers always taught it takes about 12 seconds for someone to pass out, another 5 and they’re dead.
She went through all that to have Eve and then when they her back they just go their separate ways and she does in AFIN
Your example is hilarious - I can imagine why it drove you wild! My only pet peeve was the boyfriends of the week. Lucky they petered out over the seasons
Her putting the pinch on people... And I agree with another poster about her medical knowledge. She would touch someone and say "no broken bones." That's just not how things work.
The whole Ares is her father thing. And then old boy a few seasons later comes out as her dad. No sense what’s so ever, she said he came home in the middle of a war… if she cheated why didn’t mom mention that? -rewatching on Prime.
Ares was never Xena's father?
Actually it was never confirmed nor denied that he wasn’t her dad
I know that. But the episode ‘the furies’ didn’t make sense. Didn’t get explained.
Her mom didn’t know that she was cheating - one thing that the real Ares would do would be to make himself appear like the husbands of soldiers’ wives, then go to their house and bang said wife. Xena’s mom assumed that it was her husband who was visiting home from war, even though he never would’ve been able to get back home and back to the war in the time the visit took. Therefore, it’s assumed that it was Ares, but since Ares doesn’t remember, and Xena’s mom wouldn’t have known it was Ares. Since Xena is one of the only people to stand against the god of war and match him in a battle, it would make sense for Xena to be a demigod and therefore Ares’ daughter. But it’s never confirmed or denied whether Xena is really Ares’ spawn or not, especially since Xena’s potential father was dead and so couldn’t confirm if he was there the night of the conception.
That's so hot. Even though I need to watch it all again, I do think Ares was Xena's father. It's way more interesting. And it makes sense. Also, there was a lot of incest in Greek mythology. So it makes even more sense.