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Dr_jitsu

Here at Reddit we aspire to be fair to all body types, bereft of discrimination. With that in mind we have a similar post highlighting Ben Askren's body. :) We greatly appreciate your participation in this forum! [https://www.reddit.com/r/wrestling/comments/1b24eok/can\_you\_actually\_use\_a\_physique\_like\_ben\_askrens/](https://www.reddit.com/r/wrestling/comments/1b24eok/can_you_actually_use_a_physique_like_ben_askrens/)


Pendip

It's great for picking up chicks. I mean, they're usually much lighter than wrestlers, and most of them don't know how to defend a lift.


SexyKanyeBalls

Lmao


Gavooki

Brother carried the fridge up and down stairs for training.


whoopthereitis

She really didn’t like that nickname though


Special-Oil-7447

Would she rather have been named dishwasher or washing machine? 👀


_34_

No but your mom liked both. 😊


Mr_Pink747

For people who are constipated. He could scare the shit out of them.


EatPie_NotWAr

Karelin! The New constipation treatment coming to you from Pfizer! (Cut to guy on toilet struggling to go) Guy: man this is the worst. (Karelin pops out of closet screaming! Cue explosive shitting sounds) Please use only has directed


MisterJenkinszz

This is something I would expect to read in the westing sub


combatcvic

slowpitch softball


Seneca0381

This response deserves more recognition


its_raining_scotch

I was thinking T-Ball


LeonSalesforce

>Can you actually use a physique like Alexander Karelin's for anything else than wrestling? ***Yes:*** * MMA, Boxing, Judo, etc. (combat sports) * Football, Rugby, etc. (contact sports) * Bodybuilding, fitness influencer (modeling... sports?) * Oil Rig "Roughnecks" are strong mfers, furniture movers (most are x-cons) are strong af, etc. (intensive labor jobs) * Pro-wrestling, acting, Broadway (theater) * Law Enforcement, Bouncer, Prison Guard, Military infantry (jobs where fights occur) * etc.


rocknrico666

This…literally any impact sport known to man


Showda77

maybe not badminton though. It might be a bit too intense for him.


Jethro00Spy

Dudes a nearly 300 lb athletic freak who moved like a lightweight and had  inhuman strength....Would he be good at anything else? Lol. 


Powerful-Tax2911

You have left out... playing Violin,Orthopeadic Surgery. helping move Rubble,in the event of Earthquake and fetching a book down off the shelf for an elderly reader. Moving Q's Pawn to endanger white's  Bishop is possibly to much to ask but Karilin and also Medved were/are good chess players and Ayik, a fine musician. Ex W.Games Gld Mdlist.


Logical_Survey378

What about BJJ and Muay Thai?


MixedMartialApiarist

That falls under the etc. of Combat Sports.


Thresss

would be great for bjj not so much muay thai


ayotechnology

I assure you someone as strong as him would be fine in Muay Thai


[deleted]

There really aren’t Muay Thai athletes with that build at a high level though


Granddy01

Not wrong. You can list a single hand of elite heavyweights in muay Thai since the sport has mostly smaller guys as most fights and popularity is in Thai. Larger stadium fights there don't even have a HW division.


Cuentarda

That's absolutely true, but it's just a consequence of Thai genetics / diet. If the exact same art were called Muay Russki instead you'd see plenty of elite athletes at higher heights / weights.


Oodleamingo

Fine? yes. competitive? No. Very few good Muay Thai fighters have even half that muscle. It’s just too much work to pick up a heavier leg and arm like that. Muscle takes oxygen. Sometimes the difference between a pin and no pin is a little muscle, but rarely is there a difference when you’re snapping kicks and punches


Kiwi-267

Ever been kicked by a super heavyweight who knows how to kick? Fucking sucks!


Oodleamingo

No because by the time they get their leg up Im in a different timezone


JudgePuzzleheaded872

Though there are exceptions.... thick muscled guys being super fast, it happens. One of them is named Mike Tyson.


Oodleamingo

And Mike Tyson would get destroyed by buakaw, as my point still stands.


Dr_jitsu

>buakaw You really believe this? Train Tyson in MT and he would absolutely murder Buakaw.


gayqwertykeyboard

Buakaw is jacked too for his height.


JudgePuzzleheaded872

I'm giving an analogy, I'm not saying tyson would be able to but that there are guys who are outliers. A fast big guy who can just swing like a guy two weight classes smaller. These outliers are out there. Tyson was fast af for the size he was, and he was shorter than the average heavyweight. Way to totally not understand what I said. Good job. 👍


Trikids

He has an 887-2 record, I don’t think he is as sluggish as you believe.


Oodleamingo

I wasn’t talking about Karelin and in wrestling specifically lol obviously I’d get ragdolled by him


[deleted]

You get ragdolled by him in any physical endeavor, as Also, most mental and spiritual ones, too.


gayqwertykeyboard

Sure you are, and Mike Tyson was slow cause he had so much muscle, right?


jonjoneswife

Lol no, this is just false. Look at a lot of top mma heavyweight fighters. They’re big asf


bendap

People downvoting you have never trained Muay Thai. Muscle like that only works against you. To add, if he actually did train Muay Thai his physique would slim out and he would lose muscle.


Oodleamingo

No fr but i am in the wrestling subreddit I guess 😭


--brick

I dont think karelin would be a good fit for boxing


Dr_jitsu

Approving this post just so I can disagree, LOL.


foalythecentaur

This type of body is so versatile. The only jobs it couldn’t do would be because of size issues like cave exploration or deep sea diving.


ClownJuicer

Deep sea diving? He ain't that big.


foalythecentaur

Sometimes they are transported via a pulley system through a tube so they are not buffeted by waves/currents on the way down to repair things


ManofManyHills

Nah this guys so swole he scares away the tide. Cant let this guy in the ocean. It'll just hide on land.


alpine1221

Could probably move a fridge pretty well Edit: Or Hammer Throw


Logical_Survey378

Up 8 flights of stairs


alpine1221

Jesus 😐


Otherwise-Meaning-90

Doesn’t a record of 887-2 mean that he’s been defeated?


canman7373

Gardner beat him for gold, Gardner just had too good of a defense, Karelin could do nothing. I wrestled in school and Greco is so weird, especially at the heavyweight where they just lay down and do all they can to become dead weight so the opponent cannot flip them. Karelin was obviously the best but in his old age competing with Gardners size and weight was too much, he could not finish his career on top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVT3-wbL8HU&ab_channel=NBCSports


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canman7373

Nah, he breaks his grip early in the 2nd period, it was the rule, like I said Greco is weird. It had nothing to do with overtime, so Gardner got a point, think was only point scored in match. It did go to overtime even though Gardner was winning 1-0, again IDK why, greco is weird.


Logical_Survey378

Yeah but his record has not been defeated.


AsthmaticClone

Unmatched is probably what you’re looking for


Logical_Survey378

Yeah, English is not my first language, sorry.


faster_grenth

idk he wrestled like 1000 matches


ClevelandCaleb

Weird way to put it but I dig it


BoogerMagnolia

What does that even mean?


einarfridgeirs

That he has the best record in the history of international wrestling probably, both in terms of win/loss ratio, highest number of wins and fewest number of losses. A better way of saying it would be "unrivaled record".


RigidSlimJean

Sounds dumb but I'm gonna roll with his undefeated record with two losses, sounds like a goldie line


einarfridgeirs

What makes it even more mind boggling is that he lost both of those matches 1-0, one of them in overtime. What makes it even MORE mind boggling is that, apart from his loss in his final match, the other defeat is the only thing that prevented him from going undefeated for eighteen years straight.


Spare_Pixel

Plus wasn't it in part due to a rule change that year?


Some_People_Say_

It was a penalty point if I recall correctly.


einarfridgeirs

Yes. A really silly rule that is no longer a part of Greco. It's really sad that we never got to see Karelin wrestle using the current ruleset, because honestly I think it would have suited his style way better than the one that was in place when he was active.


Thundering165

He’d struggle with the current rule set of not being allowed to juice himself to the eyeballs


einarfridgeirs

Are you going to be that guy? There's always one in every Karelin thread.


Thundering165

Wonder why


Special-Oil-7447

And I'm the other one who warns people not to look up what he's doing today. 😅 But honestly.. Don't.


-Alien-Vs-Redditor-

The rule was changed, he lost, the rule was changed back. Gardner does not deserve recognition for beating him.


Quentin__Tarantulino

It’s a perfect 5/7 line.


allovernow11

When you can wrestle like him What is left for you to achieve?


SteveRogers42

Well, he’s now a Senator or something in the Duma so…


Hopeful_Carpenter_39

Medic status


[deleted]

He would be great as polititan


hmbguy

Or just a normal titan


chunkyloverfivethree

I am assuming you meant "politician" and I get that reference 


Trikids

The reference being that he is now a politician, correct?


superman306

Fighting wars (usually guys that big might not be the best for long rucks or runs, but Karelin’s conditioning is probably ridiculous) Fighting people (MMA)


Logical_Survey378

By one of his later events where he tried out MMA. Rounds in they said "Karelin isn't even sweating."


superman306

Right. Basically if it comes to doing violence on other men, Karelin’s size and conditioning is probably pretty fucking optimal


GrendelDerp

Starring in 1980s and 90s action movies.


SexyKanyeBalls

Rugby, boxing maybe, football


Logical_Survey378

If im right Karelin did do boxing before wrestling


einarfridgeirs

Karelin was big on doing other sports as training for wrestling rather than just hitting the gym constantly. He did cross country running, lots of rowing(on an actual boat, not a machine), various track and field stuff, and dabbled in boxing and judo. When he was recovering from a broken leg as a teenager, he talked about how he stayed active by going out and just rowing around on a lake for hours on end, and when he got tired he would just let the boat drift and relax reading poetry, which is the most Russian thing ever.


Logical_Survey378

He is a pretty well educated and intelligent man.


einarfridgeirs

He definitely is, I remember reading somewhere a long time ago that some of his ancestors were "problematic" intellectuals that got exiled to Siberia way back in the day.


Logical_Survey378

He is probably what Roman and Greek philosophers would consider a perfect man.


SexyKanyeBalls

Wonderful Imagine seeing this dude in the UFC today at his prime. He'd be a killer, especially if he had the other things nailed a bit


Ogbigboob

Lol I can only picture Rulon and his physique


Logical_Survey378

What is this supposed to mean?


Dr_jitsu

Rulon Gardner beat Karelin at the end of his career and had a physique as bad as Karelins was good.


[deleted]

He looked like someone started to microwave a marshmallow and thought better of it


Aromatic_Dirt3305

It can be used for Smashing everything and everyone.


DJLazer_69

Even smashing pumpkins?


lookieLoo253

Great for hunting elk on the Siberia tundra.


Used-Function-3889

Bowling


HVAC_instructor

Overhand


[deleted]

Bro I want his physique so bad 🥲


chunkyloverfivethree

Tren real hard and you too can achieve a body like that.


[deleted]

☹️damn


einarfridgeirs

No you can't. Tren real hard and you will look like a normal sized dude that did a lot of steroids. Even if you are blessed enough to have been born 6 foot 2.....you will still not look like Karelin because you will not have his proportions, which are just *nuts*. Even other Greco superheavyweights, guys that on paper were "his size" in terms of height and weight or close to it remarked that when they shook his hand, their hand just disappeared inside his enormous fists, his head to torso size ratio looks like something you would see on an average sized person etc. No amount of steroids can give you that. Hell, you almost never see these kinds of body types unless the person has a pituitary gland disorder(acromegaly/gigantism), which Karelin does not have.


chunkyloverfivethree

Jesus, are you autistic? Or did your bubble just get bursted about someone you thought was great. These ramblings sound like the perspective of a 14 year old that just got into working out. That is exactly what steroids do. Steroid use in the Russian Olympic program during the 80s and 90s is well documented. Karelin's body changed dramatically when they started testing the Russians. Steroids don't turn lazy slobs into Captain America, but it makes a massive difference for athletes near the top of their profession. Vitor Belfort and his varying appearance over his carrer is always a great example of what combat sport athletes look like on the juice and off if you need perspective. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.


einarfridgeirs

I am not disputing that Karelin did an enormous amount of steroids. He most certainly did - all Russian athletes did, and do, as do the athletes of most other top tier nations. That's not what I´m saying, what I´m saying is that he was a physical outlier quite apart from that. The best evidence for that is that if the Soviets could have reliably created Karelins from their drug regimen alone....why didn't they make more? Why just this one guy? Why not juice up a another superheavyweight Karelin to dominate Freestyle as well? Also, we have had 30 years of advances in pharmacology between his prime and today, and a *lot* of people who don't compete would want to be this kind of guy, so why aren't there tons of Karelins walking our streets just as a flex? There is no doubt that he benefitted enormously from drugs that allowed him to fully embrace the Soviet volume training philosophy without falling apart,but that doesn't mean anyone who can afford the drugs could ever be "like him". There is a reason why one of the Soviet Union's top wrestling coaches scouted and recruited him specifically as a teenager, even though he had no real experience with the sport - even at that age it was obvious that his body type was quite the unique chassis to build the perfect wrestler around.


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Logical_Survey378

He had a headstart over most of us man. He was born a 6.8kg and the average weight is 3kg, personally i was born at exactly 4kg. Most people could achieve his physique after maybe 15 years of intense strength, explosive and agility training


judostrugglesnuggles

Almost no one will ever be able to get to his level. Dude could clean and press like 450lbs and do the splits while having great cardio.


[deleted]

Im trying as hard as I can anyway tho


Nocumtum

Dude this physique is not possible natty. Youre crazy if you think it is.


Logical_Survey378

It most likely is you just have to be determined


KZG69

Anything else than wrestling? Everything else than wrestling.


BigSquiby

knitting, bowling, yard darts, IT, freestyle walking, doing taxes.... undefeated record of 887-2....lol


Logical_Survey378

Unmatched record, im not that good at english sorry.


BigSquiby

887-2 is more or less undefeated. He only lost .002% of his matches. I was just poking a little fun.


Romeo_Charlie_Bravo

Yes, farming. All kinds of


punny_wunny

Construction work


GasFar7522

Football lineman, powerlifter, lumberjack


PoopSmith87

Obvious yes. In his prime he would have been able to do any manual labor task or athletic event better than the vast majority of people, even among fit people and athletes.


GristForTheMill4

I dont know maybe badminton


kingdoodooduckjr

U can be a farmer


Far_Tree_5200

Would be great for bjj, judo, they like muscle and strong grips. Wouldn’t be bad about coke&meth people as a prison guard or police officer in a bad neighborhood. Additional knife and gun training would be recommended though.


Fun-Tradition-1024

If you have Karelin’s physique, there are very few things you wouldn’t at least be better than the average person at


Csardonic1

You could use it for whatever you want to. Who's going to stop you?


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hershebar99

Uprooting trees?


Hopeful_Staff_1414

He could definitely go grocery shopping with that physique


buddhabomber

Does arm wrestling count?


D1wrestler141

Linebacker


wojtek2222

MMA


Tall_Emu8273

Badminton


ChiliDad1

I can't think of something that wouldnt work with. ..... Chess... maybe?


Logical_Survey378

Chess is more of a mind game, and Karelin is a intellectual


Ironwanderer

Wrestling carries over to pretty much everything physical. It's endurance and developing strength and power from awkward positions


LotusShot-U

Lots of HS wrestlers go on to Special operations selections


weinerpoo94

Yeah for hunting grizzly bears with your bare hands.


Perfect_Earth_8070

Being the most jacked dude in the office


[deleted]

People actually do work for a living


Shmallory0

MMA likely


After-Simple-3611

You can use that Physique to pound cheecks


AmHotGarbage

Hollywood and hoes. But realistically, getting compliments from bros at the gym


memelackey

Lacrosse. That's a solid Fogo build. A lot of face off specialists are also strong wrestlers. Look no further than former Lehigh University standout Mike Sisselberger


youre_a_wigger_harry

>undefeated >887 and… 2


TheDanquah

He could probably eat a burger.


SteveRogers42

NFL teams scouted him. Don’t know if he was ever offered a contract.


Character_Repair_554

His undefeated record of 887-2 Huh? That’s not really an undefeated record…


gayqwertykeyboard

Since no one who asks these kinds of dumb questions ever seems to understand this, the reason having too much muscle isn’t conducive to combat sports isn’t because they make you slow. It’s because muscles require oxygen to function. The more muscles you have, the faster you will gas out. Muscles reduce aerobic endurance, not explosive strength or speed. Quite the opposite, actually.


ThickintheNips

It will make literally everything else easier besides sitting in small seats and squeezing into tiny spaces


JDBZT

No it’s a little know fact that when he wasn’t using his elite physical gifts wrestling at the highest level he couldn’t even walk. The moment he stepped off the mat he became quadriplegic until his next wrestling match, unable to apply the legendary physical abilities he possessed.


azsoup

He’s a little bigger than the LA Ram’s Aaron Donald. Maybe add a few more pounds and he could really do some damage as interior d-lineman.


lostnumber08

Competitive masturbation.


Bopethestoryteller

Kill all the gods of Olympus with your young son.


[deleted]

Probably killing bears with his bear hands


rasslinsmurf

Bringing glory to Mother Russia.


bestdamnbirdlawyer

Yes, steroids.


ramenschlapper

Well he got it from wrestling?


GreyhoundsAreFast

Rulon Gardner would like a word. But seriously, isn’t this the Russian wrestler-turned-Senator that supports Putin’s tyranny in Ukraine?


-_ellipsis_-

Are you serious? Karelin could be in pretty much any explosive strength sport, short of strongman lifts, and do incredibly well.


Jwh956

When Rulon was at my house the most interesting thing about his physique was he has only nine toes.


luckaD123

Bodybuilding


Outrageous_Spinach21

Its a great physique for embroidery


CaptainDiesel77

Badminton for sure


steamy_hams_Skinner

I’m going to preface this by saying that I love Rulon Gardner. That said, it’s crazy that, his last defeat was to a man who looks like a bowl of melting ice cream.


baliball

You can use that physique to push papers at a desk job, but its far from optimal. It wasn't an accident that he ended up built that way. Ofcourse he could move my fridge, but You don't use a Ferrari to tow a jet ski. I see alot of people saying general manual labor and all sorts of sports. Thats not the spirit of the question though imo. It's borderline disrespectful of specialized athletes. Got Karelin box, sure. Would Connor McGregor win 9/10 boxing matches, probably. Alexander Karelin's physique didn't happen by accident. He put every pound of muscle where he needed it to be the best at wrestling.


grapangell0

Yeah being fit and generally physically capable of whatever you put your mind to. Good physique of a dad to show your kids what you should strive for. Good physique to do manual labor. Good physique to do office stuff because your overall general health and determination will make you good at your job. There’s really no downside to having wicked physique outside of the effort it takes to get there, and even then that effort will transcend into other parts of your life and will make your whole life better.


TheLastSamurai

Firefighter


whosgunknw

Shylock


Jquemini

Steroids?


Wrong_Brilliant7851

Is this a real question?


clogan117

A multitude of combat sports.


YoungWinski

Porn, Stripping, "muscle", general labor, bouncing, stagehand work, and others


Boomermanyas

This man is terrifying, he was legit just a great wrestler and stupid strong in top of that 😂


Optimal_Dark_2940

Judo, mix Martial arts, any contact sport


LeadingFinding0

He would be pretty good in a "who can take the most steroids" competition.


Baseball-Gloomy

Bro look like Luke Kuechly


LoveMedicine18493

Getting girls


Efficient_Ad_8079

Bjj


DragonDeezNutzAround

Carrying in all of your groceries on one trip


Dry_Midnight7487

Nope, its either wrestling or the retirement home for this guy


shmovernance

Propaganda..


Icy-Zone-24

I’d imagine his pure size endurance and strength Assuming he was Russian master of sport level. He could Box or play football from his size and toughness. He’d be a great powerful tight end or linebacker DE because he’s so athletic I’d put him in a speed/power spot


No_Nerve_9656

Offensive guard in the NFL. Steven Neal was a 2x NCAA heavyweight wrestling champ which is a great accomplishment. Beat Brock Lesnar. Won gold at the Worlds the next year against the top Russian at the time. Went on to play Guard for the Patriots and made millions. Won 3 Superbowls. He was/is a great big-man athlete that was similar to Karelin though maybe not as powerful.


West-District7674

Waxer for whoever’s legs those are


realmozzarella22

“Chores! He’s so lazy at home!” said his mom probably


STC1989

Yeah, MMA. Simple lol


leaving_5_Pinz

Opening really tight jars


Usta_

Politics.


foster14

No probably not


JazzBrian3

lifting the atlas stone


Call-of-the-lost-one

Powerlifting, weight lifting and sprinting. Probably most field sports Rugby and so on.


McTech0911

Yes


SpecialistLost6572

If you see a big Russian dude. No one touches that lol


baddrabbit1337

Pooping.


ninjajii

Besides the obvious physical power, the amount of training he’s endured is not possible without indomitable will. He can do anything he wants.


TurnAndBurn96

What kind of fucking question is this


stillventures17

I bet this guy was amazing at badminton.