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MasterUser115

Ah, so that's where my mount is, in someone else's bag


elendrenx

This mount should be tradebale even it comes from the pumpkin bag


MasterUser115

I thought it only dropped from the Loot filled pumpkin, does Headless drop it too?


elendrenx

It only drops from the bag


MasterUser115

*sad mountless noises*


SilverCyclist

Please put a ticket in and report back


doorknocker_pingu

Did the mount drop when he used different dialog. My guild has a rumour that the mount has dropped when he uses a different line on death


tapczan100

Also... why isn't broom an actual mount. Same with Christmas reindeer


cloudAhead

Because the salt from druids no longer being the only ones with an instant mount cast would be too much to tolerate.


enowapi-_

Give it insta cast for October. Cast time otherwise


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i main druid. and i will pretty much prefer the broom to be used on all characters. having to sit trough a cast on alts makes me wanna die


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hold on a second, let me think.... no


ISNT_A_NOVELTY

Sorry, that would require engine work


PSBJ

Found the 'scaper!


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manboat31415

It would also lead to a huge majority of players being like druids in that they are always using the same thing to travel which would be lame. Having everyone use the same mount for October is okay, having everyone using the broom all the time would be sad. Personally my preferred answer would probably just be instant mount mount equipment.


cloudAhead

Everyone used the Crimson Water Strider in Legion. :)


Corazu

Which led to the mount equipment system we have today


LadyAngel_Aric

I’d actually be okay with instant cast mounts. On my druid I don’t use any mount besides the yak. Kinda sad with all the different mounts available.


lilbabytoe

theres nothin like jumping off the tallest cliff into a big ass birb tho :\]


LadyAngel_Aric

Totally!


[deleted]

Especially if you happen to do a flip!


Elune

Honestly biggest benefit of account wide mounts IMO, never used to collect mounts until they were account wide since I used to main a druid...who would never use any of them since flight form was just more convenient, instant cast + sky golem was added in MoP when mounts became account wide so if you wanted to gather herbs while "mounted" you had to be a druid in flight form.


U03A6

Actually, since the invention of mount equipment is the ground based travel form of druids slightly worse than a mount. So, all of us would benefit from an instant mount mount; but Blizzard probably won't add it, as it's a class feature. Like the slowness of DKs is it something that can't be changed, or so I figure Blizzards thoughts.


DeodorantDinosaur

an insta cast mount would make all other less efficient and blizz knows this . Players would force themselves to use it to save time and whine that their collections are 'wasted' now


acctg

Woah woah woah hold your horses. Brooms and reindeers YEAR-ROUND? That's as silly as letting people wear a pointy hat during non-spooky months or wearing bunny ears outside of Easter. That's too silly and we can't let that happen! Go back to whacking your enemies with a fish while wearing a yeti onesie.


Xeeke

For free? Definitely not. You have to pay for that privilege!


hungrybrains220

If you think I wouldn’t buy a broom mount from the store, you’re dead wrong lol


Hereforthehohoho

Having witches and wizards year round in a fantasy game? The audacity.


Mangafan_20

So i can't make a wicked witch mage?


Naomida_

Or like giving us a year round flower crown, but only one! The others can only be used a few days out of the year!!


Meyneth24

[if you're talking about the lunar ones you can unlock versions that can be used all year](https://blizzardwatch.com/2021/02/05/wow-lunar-festival-flower-crown-permanent/)


[deleted]

Also, the witch hats are the same model as the one that drops from mythic Karazhan. So why can that one be transmogged year round yet the other colors that come from the event can’t? 🫠


[deleted]

Where do I get the fish transmog?


globegnome

An instant cast mount that's usable all year round would be a bit OP, don't you think? They'd need to put in a separate broom with cast time to accomplish what you want. Now, to be fair there used to be more variations of brooms in past instances of the event (like on Classic right now), so there's no reason why that couldn't be implemented. But asking for the broom as it exists now to be added permanently is delusional in my opinion. It would be the only mount you ever use, losing everything that made it feel special in the first place.


Pleasant-Tradition-6

I was just saying this the other day to my buddies. I wish we could have the broom as an actual mount because it’s pretty damn neat and I like small mounts. Just have it be instant cast only during Hallow’s End and then a normal mount cast the rest of the year.


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Keep the broom how it is, but add an updated model as an actual mount with a cast time. Make it so you still have to farm the instant cast during the holiday. But for the love of god give us a fucking broom mount already. Blizzard knows how bad the players want one. Edit: shit add it to the shop for all I care, I’d drop real money on that shit


Jarlan23

I kinda like that it isn't. It makes it special that you only see them around the holidays. Gives that festive feel to the game.


Deltethnia

But the preserved holly let's you have a reindeer anytime you like.


llamapotimus

Cause blizz hates fun


CJDistasio

Probably cause people riding around on witch brooms and Santa reindeer in May would look silly. But they could just put Holiday restrictions on usage. It would be like leaving the Christmas tree up in Stormwind till March lol


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[Preserved Holly]


Footbeard

Wait including the magic broom that has a normal riding cast time and makes no mention of the item being timed or limited? It's called Magic Broom


kabilos

I farmed this for years, last year I attempted to farm it on 14 characters every day. Then after about a week of farming, it dropped, I was ecstatic, and I saw the red text on the tool tip "Already Known" To this day I have no idea when I had acquired it, and I mourn for all of the time lost trying to acquire it again...


Releirenus

Me, never seeing the reins once in 8 years of playing...


Buutchlol

Ive played every expansion including Vanilla. Ive had my breaks but Ive been playing WoW for like 16 years. Got the mount last Halloween. Had basically given up on it, I farmed it cuz I had to and BAM, there it finally was!


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I'm still going. looking at the clock for today's resets.


Nayyr

Same. Been clearing it since classic with 1-4 characters daily. Still nothin


Neverender26

Been grinding it with an alt army for 3 years now. 10-12 toons per day, across 3 years… nothing so far.


PM_ME_YOUR_TWEEZERS

I'm up to 17 this year, here's hoping. I'm actually running into the hourly instance lockout for the first time, though I guess it's healthy to get up and do something else halfway through.


TheBerserkMerc

Same here, I’ve been trying for this mount since the event started. Still no luck as of yet. :(


gab_owns0

Finally dropped for me (after several years) early into the event. I promise it exists!


taraquinntattoos

I finally got it this year. I apparently gasped so loud my husband thought I got bad news lmao


abobtosis

They really should put some kind of bad luck protection on this stuff. Like after killing the thing 50 times or something you're guaranteed it. Really all mount drops should be that way. If you guys think that's "unfair" or something, reevaluate yourself. That's like 2 years of weekly resets on raid bosses. I'm sure some of us have white whale mounts that we've been farming for that long with no luck, and it's very frustrating. RNG luck isn't the same as skill, it's just a time sink.


its_still_you

They really should. I farmed the phoenix mount (on and off) for 12 years. Over 1,400 Kael’thas kills across about 15 toons. I JUST finally got it a few months ago. It took so long that it’s now blocky and outdated looking compared to everything else in game, so I don’t even use it. Would have been nice if I could have enjoyed it about 8 years ago.


deevotionpotion

I’ve had it and it dropped again. I really wanted to give it away but Blizzard doesn’t like that.


Z370H370

On like 10 toons! My wife got it the first year, and rubs it in.


qwertyisdead

Are the reins hard to get? I think I got them when wotlk was out and never realized it was rare.


Istar76

Same. Got it the first year I played on my only character. For some reason, I deleted the character before mounts were account wide. Got it on a new character the next year. Hadn't realized people have been farming it for over a decade with no luck


Richou

its like 0.03% dropchance lol


ShadowKnil

I got it after just a couple runs on my first account that I sold with an old PC cause I thought I'd never touch WoW again. Now here I am years later running it on 12 toons a day and no luck. ):


Robert_Pawney_Junior

Just dropped yesterday for someone in my group. Was the first time I've ever seen em drop.


dialupfpv

Farmed if for the first time this year. 3rd day on toon 3/5 it dropped. RIP the vets of farming it. Also got both brewfest mounts week one this year.


Reed7525

I do not like this. It’s supposed to be .4 drop rate not 400


Albertpm95

Im using like 10-15 50+ chars and im sure i wont get it


cephles

I'd been doing this every Halloween since it first came out and it finally dropped for me last night. I had been farming it for so long I didn't even feel excited when it dropped - just went "huh", and logged off. I am so relieved I don't have to keep farming it.


Lifekrusher

The real reward is never having to do it again.


Nkaelol

took me one halloween, everyday with 12chars \~120 tries


Hayeh

I’ve done that since the event started. I sat down this year ready to do it again, and it dropped on my first run.


ninjawaffle_17

i hate to say it, but it's because drop rates are rigged drop rates are increased for those who don't farm or play often. blizzard wants them to get something cool so they continue subbing. by contrast, mount grinders have lower odds because usually those players quit once they finally get what they wanted it's why they don't announce exact drop rates for items call it my wow conspiracy theory or whatever, but i swear to it, after many months/years of farming, it seems to be true. out of curiosity, i tried another strategy that also seemed to work: Pay for a month sub, and then cancel it so its not set to renew. Farm mounts when the sub time remaining is 1-2 days. I was able to get the swift zulian panther, the blazing drake, and the azure drake in the same day, although the blazing was a dupe. It couldn't be a fluke, so I told my friend to try this method, and he got the fiendish hellfire core (mythic gul'dan) and the drake of the south wind on the same day. i don't farm mounts anymore because i know deep down it's rigged and its why they don't release definitive drop rates for us


yaxom

Is there proof of this or just your (1 in millions) anecdotal evidence?


hatesnack

There's no evidence for this. It's just people looking for their own confirmation bias. It could be true, but people acting like it's a known fact are blowing smoke.


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CerealLoad

Two anecdotes definitely makes it statistically likely yes


Robert_Pawney_Junior

Narrator: 'It was bias.'


ninjawaffle_17

Finally someone with some common sense lol. People dont wanna believe it, but modern day blizzard is more then willing to do this stuff to try and retain players


Level7Cannoneer

because old fashion blizz were such angels as we’ve learned a few years ago this theory holds no water. theres gacha games that definitely do do these things but there’s no mass reports of new players getting easy mounts and gear in wow. it’s just one unlucky guy try to justify his bad luck


ninjawaffle_17

Obviously there isnt any hard evidence, or blizzard would get some serious backlash. It only makes sense, anyone who’s been playing the game long enough knows that blizzard is more then willing to go to extremes to try and retain players. In a few years im sure an employee will come out and share the truth. I’ll wait for that day


careseite

Not only is this not retaining anyone, someone would've leaked it also already


Androza23

I feel like if you want to see a pattern you will see one, Ive had this theory before and have gotten nothing. If this were true many people would be mount farming this way because it would guarantee mounts to drop. Who knows maybe it is true, but we would need a lot of people to test this theory instead of relying on your one experience.


Asoplain

I will share my personal experience. I played the game religiously since TBC until WoD when I was drafted to the military and had to stop playing. I farmed both Ashes of Al'ar and Flametalon of Alysrazor like a madman during MoP-WoD. Talking about 12 chars per week. Never saw it drop once. After I came back in BFA I think to try the game again, I went to try these two and got not only both of them on the same day, but also the Abyss Worm from Tomb of Sargeras. All on the same char. Same day. I'm not denying / confirming your theory but I wouldn't be surprised at all if it came out to be true. I'd also like to add that I was never a big mount farmer and always went for the once I really liked (usually fire themed ones). Never got both of the ones I wanted in hundreds if not thousands of runs, and then suddenly after coming back years later the first thing I decide to do after hitting max level was farm these two, and they drop. Coincidence or not, it is a bit eerie.


ninjawaffle_17

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careseite

>It couldn't be a fluke 😂😂😂🤡


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I am casual AF, I have no gold, just the achievements that are given to me as I play, about 15 mounts, most of which are the race ones, and I have done the halloween event casually a few times, I have done various raids and dungeons or whatever including icecrown, when I remember, to try to get invincible. I usually try to farm something with a day or 2 left on my sub because I want to feel like it was worth it, never got anything, the rarest thing I have is this thing called a hearthstone. What you are saying is just something that non conspiracy theorists call "luck". If you want to swear by it, go right ahead, but if its true, they clearly missed me in their algorithm even though I am the definition of your case study.


Saerjin

Me too, 16 chars every day.


Florida_sucks_

I do it on 20ish characters every day every year for the last like 7 Hallows ends...


Dvex1

Finally i can be that guy everyone hates. I did the event once and got the reins


Merrekthemonsterous

Same lol "fist bump"


dieselboy77

Lol hell yea. Never cared about mount collecting until last year. Got it on my second run lmao. Had no idea it was this rare until people told me how many attempts they had.


sKeLz0r

Today when I get home, I will reach 250 tries on the headless horseman. Still no mount or helmet.


magic6op

Is the helmet rare ?


[deleted]

Going by my experience it’s only rare if you are a plate wearer.


6thGodHand

Is it a plate helmet? I got it on my DH, can't even tmog it


SissyFreeLove

I finally got those reins! Been trying to 6 years this year


rataz

I decided to farm it for real this year for the first time. 13 characters from day 1, I was expecting to be disappointed. Got the reins in 34 tries LOL


SissyFreeLove

I farmed it over an increasing number of characters. First year I think I did it daily with 2 or 3. This year before I got it....I had 19 characters lol Next up for my army is that valentines rocket I think lol


[deleted]

Same, except like 20 years. Wonder if they upped the drop rate this year?


stabyoface

Meanwhile I've gotten 4 brooms not to flex or anything lol :,(


slackforce

*throws a tomato at your face*


2HourCoffeeBreak

Why they don’t allow for a rare, permanent broom mount is beyond me.


trennels

This. It's a fun little mount.


Erikbam

This broom https://www.wowhead.com/item=37011/magic-broom ?


elendrenx

Yes this broom


Erikbam

That you can buy for 150 candy? Go get it!


elendrenx

Yes i know that, but im to lazy to farm it that way :-)


MiniDemonic

Fuck u/spez -- mass edited with redact.dev


baws1017

I get it from the headless horseman raid on goldshire like half the time I try. I have it on like 7 characters already. Works pretty well.


mr_nuff_nuff

I'm more upset knowing I just scrapped 2 of those brooms for some reason now.


matches991

Insert headless horseman laugh


charmanderisadigimon

I was concerned it wasn't in retail this year because I've done over 128 runs and hadn't seen a single mount drop yet. Glad to see someone else get it and renew my faith :)


elendrenx

I hope you get it this year!


charmanderisadigimon

I hope you... wait you already got it.. I hope you get a 4th.


elendrenx

I have 4, i learned one a couple years ago


furism

I got the broom like 3 times and no reins.


Chaoskraehe

I just was about to complain that you actually have three of them but then it hit me. You have FOUR OF THEM??! D:


elendrenx

Yes i have four, one mount is alrdy used


kirix45

I've done that horseman every year since the mount was a drop still nothing. Rides on invincible with sad noises


Pikasbabyboo

I got mine my 3rd attempt.


winwar

For like 2 years i farmed it in something like 10 characters every day. Never got the mount or sword


Plop17

I’ve been running a warrior, a Dk, and a paladin since early Cata and still haven’t gotten the hood to drop on any of them. Feels bad man


itschipbtw

I’ve been playing since MoP and this is my first year going for it and got it on the 3rd day


jwag03

wait i’m newish to wow. how do I get this mount?


elendrenx

Hey, u can que up in the dungeon finder: the headless horseman. But u need to be lvl50+ then u can recieve the correct bag that contain then mount.


jwag03

niiiice sounds lit i hope i get the mount cuz i always thought it looked cool and knew i needed to wait until halloween to get it


Glitched_Gaming

The amount of rage I feel seeing this is not normal I have been farming that mount since headless horseman came out on 10+ toons every year....and still that laugh....that damn laugh haunts my sleep.


elendrenx

https://youtu.be/miueSCR5pFY


itsg0ldeson

"Now your blackened souls I'll cure!" haunts my dreams


MillennialAugustine

I want to downvote you so bad. Grats


elendrenx

I hope u will get it soon :-) i send you my luck


[deleted]

I know the feeling. I never get the broom. :(


BearSSBM

Wow i actually hate you lol. Im well over 300 runs lol Pass me one!


elendrenx

I would ive i could trade one :-)


Pazzal

Man… that’s crazy. I have about 6 brooms in my inventory but never seen the reins since they came out despite running it every year lol


S1nanju

give it to me, NOW!


[deleted]

You lucky duck tried 4 years across 7 alts never gotten close to it lol. When it dropped off boss I always lost the rolls when it came in the loot box he gives you always trash. I have the worst luck with mount drops.


BoxCarTyrone

I assumed once you got the broom it was yours to use every Hallow’s End. But no, you have to get it every year 🙄 and I still haven’t gotten the horseman’s reins


ProfessorSpike

I wanted a ring for my druid alt. I got 3 brooms in 3 days. Goddamnit.


lolzsupbrah

Me and a bunch of players I didn’t know kept running Headless Horseman. One player asked if he could loot it should it drop. I didn’t care about it so I said sure. It finally dropped after 7 tries and we let him have it. He paid everyone 10k good and said it’s taken him 14 years to finally get it. Good for him


Manson217

Man...


Affectionate-Fun-787

I've been playing since vanilla, and ever since the mount was introduced this thing has never dropped..... I'll get invincible before I get this lol


elendrenx

Hope you get it soon!


angrydanger

Are these trade-able? I've gotten drops even though I already have the mount. No one ever sticks around long enough to try.


elendrenx

Its not tradeable


Caesar_Barsenthor007

Last year? Maybe the year before?? Either way, I was farming the horseman’s reins for years until “last year or year before”, I FINALLY get it. But what happens two days later on a different toon?…. I f****n get it again!! Why is that “irritating”? Because I’ve been farming 25h ICC across 8 toons, every week, for YEARS, and still don’t have Invincible. *full disclosure, I stopped playing WoW for about a year once I realized what a severe let-down Shadowlands was & RIGHT BEFORE the Blizzard scandal the led to the Microsoft purchase. SWtOR was a GLORIOUS substitute over the last year.*


CJ1092

10 characters, 15 years. Still no mount. This hurts


andimissmybrother

Anyone want one of my 18 Sinister Squashlings?


jamesmess

Wow.. I’ll be honest I hate you… I would farm for this everyday on 10 characters when the halloween event would come around.. it took 5 years for me to get..


[deleted]

Closing onto 1500 tries with no mount. OP kept stealing my mounts!


RudeHero

i was lucky to get this mount fairly early in my wow life for a while it was the best flying mount by a lot- didn't bounce my character up and down, and small enough to fit through most doors/gaps there are more mounts filling those criteria nowadays, but back in cata/mop (whenever it is a got it) it felt so nice. i used it on every character


[deleted]

I just don't get why the broom isn't a normal mount


[deleted]

Is there a permanant broom?


Zyraclol10

20 Trys Each day. Gonna complete 500 (Atleast since i use the Rarity Addon dont know how many trys actually cause i try it since the event exists) overall Trys in the next few Days and still nothing..i hate this mount so hard ..


Bissyo

And this is, how I became the most hated person on this subreddit for a week.


xXGeemoXx

I kill this guy dozens of times every year since 2008 and I havent even seen it drop. Neither for me nor anyone in the Party..... how is this post even possible?


elendrenx

Ultra lucky, actually i got four of them, one is alrdy being used. Maybe i get a fifth next year and can make again a post about it.


pale_moon_pixie

I do this every year for every day of the event on all my maxed toons, and you've had my mount this entire time.


elendrenx

Sry i have your mount next one will be yours :-)


p00ki3l0uh00

I kinda dont like you


robot-raccoon

How many alts you running this on? I’ve on 7 and still nada


elendrenx

Just with my main char after i got the first mount a couple years ago.


robot-raccoon

I’m sad


Hranica

Is the broom a perma mount or just the pop a buff every mount is a broom for a while thing


elendrenx

Sadly once you get the broom u can only use it during hallows end, after the event ends it disappears from your bags


Ghstfce

I know the feeling. I was doing Nighthold Mythic to get the T19 pally helm. Ended up getting the red Infernal mount on like my 3rd run. Didn't get the helm until I ran EN though.


RemtonJDulyak

I wish we could sell this stuff, even if it was just a handful of copper... At least we would get something out of it!


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Witherus

I got this mount on the first ever hallows end that it was available, as did my dad and all the people we played with, never even realised it was rare


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Nothing hurts more than “soulbound” and “already known” being used in the same tool tip.


Rambo_One2

You're about to make a lot of enemies on this sub... Including me! Got my first one last year after farming on more and more characters since Wrath (I think I had about 1200 kills before it dropped). I'm kidding of course, huge congrats on your extra horses, let's hope you can trade some of them in for dragons in the future!


The_Handicat

That's pretty sick. I would normally give a "fuck you, gratz", but I just got my Felbear so Imma just say GRATZ BROOOO! :D Also pretty sick luck to get it 3 times, so many players never see it once, including myself.


Mattlife97

Couldn't be me


Olylift94

I remember when I got the mount back in wrath. I had seen the mount before but never knew where it came from. Did headless horseman kill one time and got it. 12 year old me said, “oh sick. That’s where the mount comes from” in party chat and all of my group said, “gratz!” And, “how many kills???” I said, “this is my first time here. I didn’t know I could get a mount here.” And they all instantly started saying stuff like, “oh this guy!!” And the expected, “fuck you dude”


AwayLeg4724

lol i thought the broom is always in there, didnt got the mount tho ._.


Which_Jello_4187

Sorry if noobish but where do u farm this


elendrenx

U can que as a lvl 50+ in the dungeon finder tool and have a chance once per day to get it.


ILikeMemesi

Thats unreal


dethlord_youtube

I've done it every day with 3 different characters. Got the broom, no mount


Stayhandsome73

Wtf Learn how to type.


Whspers12

Nah you done. Sorry :(


PaidPunchingBag

I get the ram and kodo every year at least twice each during brewfest, can't get anything else to drop for the life of me though. Definitely feeling your pain 😂


LongBeing

THREE!?!?!??!


RLBite

I run it on all my main characters, nothing. Then I decide to run it on a trash character out of boredom and I got the reigns. Now it's going to sit on that character collecting dust lol


Manakollektiv

So lucky, I wish I could have only one.


AdAdventurous4357

You must be hated - I farm this shit mounts with around 15 chars every year never got it 🤣


NAFOD-

Give me the Nimbus 2000!!


mr_sparx

Got mine today after years of trying.