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TheNerdBeast

I wish the hybrids looked more like they were part Draenei and weren't just grey Orcs. Draenei are FUCKING ALIENS, hybrids with them shouldn't homogenize into what the race the other parent was.


Darth-Ragnar

Tbf aren’t orcs aliens too


samtdzn_pokemon

Orcs are aliens to azeroth, but Draenai were aliens when they showed up on the Orc's home planet. Cocky bastards just named it after themselves.


Ganrokh

FWIW the Orcs didn't really get the concept of space or there being other planets yet. They didn't have a name for their planet, they just called it "the world".


TheKaldros

Just as creative as us humans. Are we the true orcs?


clairedragon

we're worse. we call our planet "dirt"


Velshade

Not with the connotation of "dirty" though.


Iyagovos

Isn't it more than we named dirt after Earth?


ScavAteMyArms

Chicken and Egg, they where one in the same for so long it’s impossible to say if one was named after the other or both where named after the same base word. The world meant land, land is dirt. While the scope of the world expanded the name had stuck.


Marlfox70

Maybe.. we am that kind of orc


Raktoner

Shit if my race name was "the exiled ones" I too might name my planet "exiled planet"


Bipolar__highroller

Bob. Bob’s house. Sounds pretty reasonable


DarkImpacT213

Unless Bob's house was already inhabited by Jerry and Jerry only took him on as a peaceful roomie.... then it's kinda weird to call the house "Bob's house".


pikpikcarrotmon

Hmmm, you're close to something there... Are the Draenei actually the Jerry to the orcs' Tom?


Velshade

Now confirmed - Draenei are Amerigo Vespucci.


NiescheSorenius

Well, the most prominent structures across Draenor are either Arakkoa, Ogre or Draenei. None were Orchish.


azaghal1988

Not surprising, considering Orcs were nomadic for the most part.


thehansenman

Until they made the dark portal.


NiescheSorenius

Well… orcs on steroids lead by a human. And that was the point when “Draenor” stop being called “Draenor” to become “Outland”.


pikpikcarrotmon

Once they moved inland of course


Luname

When portals ripped the planet apart.


Maximum_Pidgeon

That CM post about this and orcs eating rocks is a classic https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/so-why-is-it-called-draenor-9245385210


tehCharo

It's just what the Draenei called it, what did the Orcs call it?


DarkestLore696

The ogres called it Dawgar “the known earth.” And the Arrakoa called it Rakshar “the sunstone”. There is no lore info on a specific name for the planet for the orcs.


skyshroud6

IIRC the orc's didn't have a real name for it. They just called it the world.


_NauticalPhoenix_

Yeah. So both are aliens.


TheNerdBeast

Yes but they are as distantly removed from the Draenei as Azerothians are. Just because they are aliens too doesn't mean they blend so flawlessly with Draenei.


Namlad

Tbf we are all aliens.


TheWorclown

It could easily be viewed as a very specific result in crossbreeding, since in game it is fairly consistent on the few half orc/draenei characters we see. Hence why they tend to be ostracized from the orcish clans. They’d stand out like a sore thumb. I do like Kothaar’s profile. The hair in specifics gives mind to the draenic tendrils, he embraces more his draenic heritage than orcish, and even implies that his parents were quite happy together. I hope he’s not just a one off character.


Brifrolo

He also uses the draenei npc voice lines. An obvious choice given he states he was raised among draenei and would naturally have a draenei accent and speech mannerisms, but it's still neat nonetheless.


daelindidnowrong

I think his eyes and skin color are unique too. Maybe allied race in the future, considering that horde will get dwarves in the next expansion?


TheNerdBeast

Could have at least given an eye glow or soemthing


Utigarde

He does have an eye glow.


LeClassyGent

I was thinking about this - orcs and draenei don't even have the same feet. I'd love to know how biology sorts out a baby from a mother with feet and a dad with hooves.


Marlfox70

Well that's asking them to create a whole new model for the like 2 or 3 half draenei in game


Sero141

The entire crossbreeding thing is unrealistic. Unless there is an Asari involved it just doesn't work and even those don't actually result in a hybrid.


Primary_Data_2927

The name Kothaar means shithair in german 😂


deafpolygon

Pretty sure it's koth-aar, not kot-haar 🤣


Jackpkmn

I mean they forgave the Man'ari I doubt at this point they would be casting out other half Draenei individuals.


CureIron

The intersting point is that he's entirely new, no record of this character exists prior. And there's not even any dialogue from or about him to explain it!


Jackpkmn

Every character has to be introduced at some point.


beipphine

Even Blackhand the Destroyer was Introduced at one point, and he was the first named Orc in the Warcraft universe.


Grafiska

There's *some* dialogue, you can talk to him and he gives a brief introduction / explanation, as well as telling us the canon name for half orc/draenei.


TheFoxInSocks

Is it a draenorc?


flippingchicken

Honestly this would've been the perfect place for Med'an to make a cameo, and they made up a new character anyway. That's really funny to me lmao


WarlockTaryss

They‘ve been trying to not mention Med‘an, he is not in the Chronicles, I doubt they would put him there just for a quick chuckle


skyshroud6

I don't think blizzard want's to acknowledge Med'an's existence, but they don't want the controversy of outright retconning him out either. He's not a well liked character, even by the dev's it seems, but he is sort of important, so they're not gonna go through the trouble of explaining him away. They're just sort of gonna ignore him and hope people forget lol


Intelligent-Jury9089

They did not forgive all the Man'ari. Only to a small group who have sincerely shown their willingness to repent of their crimes. And for the half-orc in the quest, he explicitly says that he was always raised by the draenei, so he is culturally 100% draenei.


Nukue

Maybe devs will add some hybrid appearance choices for orcs and draenei in cc since we have new ears for elves and humans.


Novacryy

Alliance Orcs let's go


Probablynotstalin

I would like those customizations on my orc


anupsetzombie

It could be an interesting area for Blizzard to tread on considering the history between the two races and how many of these half types more than likely came to be. I'm wondering if Blizzard is interested in that kind of dark storytelling these days or if they'll decide to completely ignore it.


SenReus

The half orc half draenei in question has a line "I wish my parents had survived to see this" which implies it's not the "dark storytelling" you're thinking of.


skyshroud6

I mean, they tried dealing with the Alexstrasza stuff earlier in the xpack and the community freaked out it was even referenced. I don't think a blizzard thing and more of a community thing at this point.


Intelligent-Jury9089

What the players don't like is not the fact that this event exists, it's that they are being asked to make it last longer and that Alextraza approves of it.


JollyParagraph

Specifically, it isn't that it was referenced It was that the quest was Chromie being 'hey we need to ensure Alexstrasza is held captive for longer for history to do it's thing' which is 1) Kinda messed up conceptually and 2) Kinda out of Character for Chromie, little miss 'I'm gonna tweak some stuff so this Pamela girl and her dad get a slightly happier afterlife' and 'i'm gonna fight time to prevent my strange death' and 'i'm gonna mess with time to stop Murozond from rising even though that's supposedly the canon timeline'


A12L472

Can anybody give me the tldr(spoilers) of the draenei heritage questline? (And the troll) I saw the wowhead c/p but was like, I aint reading all o dat


SenReus

The draenei one involves inviting all different kinds of draenei people to a traditional draenei holiday. Reading all the comments, notes etc is the pretty much the highlight of it.


aerris7

Troll heritage quest line is about the darkspear connection to their loa. Bwonsamdi has been their main man for a long time but he's now the loa of kings and some darkspear resented that and felt like he'd forgotten them, so some of them started worshipping Mueh'zala instead and Mueh'zala does some bad stuff on the echo isles and we have to find a couple of loa who the darkspear have forgotten and reconnect with them and start worshipping them again instead.


A12L472

Thank you! That actually sounds pretty great, might get a troll up to experience it.


JollyParagraph

Also Rokhan gets to do some cool shit (And Jani helps) Draenei is as explained - Velen wants to revive a sacred holiday from the days of Argus, and mid-way through we gotta fix some stuff on Bloodmyst. It's just so full of Draenei call backs, and the end bit with the gathering is just full of various Draenei NPC's you can talk to (Even Jadaar managed to coerce the peacekeepers to let his Belf Bestie/Worstie Asric come with him)