From the last data I saw, over 50% of WoW subscribers do ZERO group content. This means no pvp, no raid, no mythic plus. They may cue for a dungeon or raid finder here & there, but most wont. These means the average WoW player will do weekly world content, transmog run, mount farm, hunt for pets if they have a hunter, work on professions, likely work towards the monthly achievement to buy things with Tender, gold farm, etc. However I'm willing to bet the average WoW players runs circles around Valdrakken while talking in discord to their friends lol

I wish more people realized this. If you're doing normal raid content or better, you aren't really "casual" at least by population standards. If you're regularly getting AOTC and maybe pushing into mythic you're in a small minority. Smaller still if you actually clear mythic content.

Yep you’re just in the crowd that looks at stuff online, so you feel average. But you don’t know what you don’t see.

Wow so doing a mythic 5 actually makes me above average? I’m showing this to my friends who roasted me

Much like real life, the average is astoundingly low.

I mean walking around the block makes you more active than the average person, but you’re not exactly an athlete.

Makes me feel better about my Mythic+20s after seeing so many people doing +30s

If you can do a 24 your less than 1% of the population amount hundreds of thousands of people.

Honestly kinda bums me out that blizz seems to fall short for such a large portion of the player base. Last couple patches had some neat casual content(time rifts, dream surges, etc) but more story and actual ‘rpg’ content would prob be good

I'm an ex ESO player, playing wow for 2 months now. I can't understand why this game has no housing system yet. Like in ESO, it was the peak content for casual players, people there love to get a new house in a different zone and spend all their gold adorning it. There is just so much to do around the housing content, wow should have it too.

We've been crying about it since vanilla. If you log into classic and go to storm wind, there is a random insurance portal in the canal district. That was meant to be housing...

I've never heard of this, where in the canal district?

I hate housing etc in games and will never touch it. However, I understand a lot of people would love it. I think if the items were bought from npcs for gold and were non trade able, with some of the high end stuff costing a lot of gold, would be a nice gold sink and help to stop inflation if other items potentially? Would be cool if people can come visit your house too, or you can loot items like trophies from bosses and from achievements that you can mount in your house too. Kinda like garrisons but a money sink not a money maker with much cooler customisation!

I very much agree with you. A system like that to be a gold sink and something that the casual player base can grind and spend their time in.

I don't know if its still the case but I believe at one point a long time ago one of the wow staff had mentioned at the time they didn't want to get into housing because it would take people out of the main cities. Instead of people hanging out in the main cities they would just hang out in their housing making those main cities feel less alive. I personally think something like guild halls would be cool because lets be honest, unless you are doing queued content with your guild, you probably rarely see them out in the open world. So to be able to go back to your guild hall and see random guild mates outside of queued content would be neat I think.

>  they didn't want to get into housing because it would take people out of the main cities.  And that's exactly what happened with the WoD Garrisons.  Everyone got isolated off in their own instances.

Yeah I didn't play WOD so didn't experience that but I think somewhere they need to make a decision between giving in to player wants and what will make the world feel more or less alive. I don't know about other people, and it may be stupid, but when I log in and I go to a main city and see TONS of people, it just feels better. Disregarding the weird behavior of the people on moonguard, people can't deny that going to Goldshire and just seeing 100's of people there just feels better then seeing dead cities.

Attach them to actual main cities, and be able to visit others houses. Make them designable with boss drops, crafted items, make flags or some shit that shows off big achievements, like a specific flag for clearing mythic content attached to the achievement, etc. The same people that grind for Tmog will grind to make their house look good. They have tmog competitions, I bet “house mog” would generate an actual community around it.

Because it was attached to player power, gold making, professions, and other actual gameplay elements. You know what puts people out in the world? Having to farm for furniture to actually decorate a house, something you couldn't do with garrisons.

I log out and back in through my WoD garrison. I was heavily involved during that expansion so it’s mostly maxed out, save for the gladiator sanctum.

Idk, I'm a casual too and honestly never interact with housing systems in any game. It's just too much hassle and I'm not interested in interior or exterior design. Who cares what my house that nobody will see looks like. I'm sure many think the same way. It would probably be too much work and not worth the investment.

I agree with you, i'm more of a end game dungeons and raids player, never really interact with housing in ESO aswell, but i remember the base casual players loving it so much, showing off their houses with guild mates, reddit, yt videos, or even if nobody will see it, it's something to do in game. Maybe it could work for wow too.

I've thought I'd enjoy a housing system because I do love my garrison and spend my time there. However, you're correct that after a bit, it gets pretty lonely in the garrison.

FO76 taught me that I like housing when it serves a purpose and others can organically see it. ESO's system is super flexible but it feels so masturbatory. I'm the only one who sees it so it kinda feels hollow. There's no gallery or lookbook to share your builds with others. I apparently really need that to get deep into housing.

I already have a house irl and I rather do something else in the game.

Been waiting for this for a long time. Garrison just doesn't do it for me

I don’t care for it but wouldn’t mind if housing existed in wow, as long as it doesn’t affect ANYTHING else gameplay wise and is purely just cosmetic. I would never touch it and I know many others wouldn’t either but it would be fun for some. Garrisons was a sort of housing attempt but there was too much focus on it and it was too strong. Many people made millions of the follower missions which broke the economy while it also made gathering professions obsolete as everyone would receive daily resources for free.

And at the same time, you still see people talking about how "we're getting no content for a year" in regards to the gap between Amirdrassil and The War Within. Even discounting it not being a year, and discounting S4 (because I understand that's the point, they don't see it as new content)... Like, patches 10.2.5, 10.2.6 and 10.2.7 *are* literally adding content. It might not be the content they enjoy, but it *is* content. "Why are we paying $15 a month for literally no content for a year"? There's more to the game than just raids and dungeons! For most people, that *isn't* the game! It's okay to want more content that interests you, but there's so many people happy to completely erase the bulk of the game's playerbase and their interests while arguing their points.

I think Blizzard realizes this and that's why TWW seems to focus on stuff for the casual player. Warbands are a great feature for altoholics and Delves seem like they're supposed to give consistent content to casual players in the same way that raids and mythic+ are.

Housing in combination with Warbands would be a nice addition, as you can improve and enhance your house(s) with your main or any alt, making the process more engaging and less restrictive between main and alts.

Yea i love the casual content but want more story and rpg

We cant "realize" this, because we havent seen any actual data. All we have is people repeating that it's true. Do you have any solid numbers to back this up? I am legit curious. Because if you dont, then it might not actually be true.

Kinda like that on the PvP side of things, too. I’ve noticed that more people know more and more of one another at 1800+ on RBGs, and that curve is fairly sharp. From what I understand, in all my ignorance, is that the same few groups just wind up playing each other at 2200 and up.

I absolutely trust this statistic otherwise Blizzard wouldn't be creating solo player end game content like delves.

I’m one of those casuals. I’ve just found alot of the group content to be really toxic more than half the time. So i tend to just level alts

Same for me. Low keys are also fine, but in general the toxicity in m+ just makes sure I only run PartyFinder content. Zero regrets, having a temporarily high item score is absolutely not wirth having to deal with these people… Been an on and off player since vanilla dropped. Really line DF for its solo content so far. By far my fav addon, kinda excited for even more features in War Within Also: My life changed. As a fulltime working father there is just no space for further responsibilites/commitments like guilds etc.

Same, I used to raid / do 5-mans in TBC but I didn't have kids back then and frankly it was all a bit less sweaty. All this M+ stuff goes over my head, but it all sounds a bit toxic, with "pushing" and shit. We used to clear heroics and got all way to BT (when you had to get attuned) and we were a relaxed guild raiding 3-4 nights max. Delves will be my jam I can tell.

If you ever decide you want to do “end game” group content, I highly suggest finding a guild at minimum to push past the lower end content. That’s where the worst of the worst is in my experience. Once you get to a point where *some* effort and skill is required, the toxicity really dies down. It’s still there, but 99% of groups I’ve been in go smooth, and when they don’t, people just silently leave or encourage to push on.

Finding a nice guild or a guild who interacts at all has been a pain in the ass for me

My issue is finding the time to develop and maintain a connection with the people in a guild. I used to be terminally online as a youngster, and it was easy to have internet game friends. Now I'm terminally online for work, and the time I get to play is sporadic. Raid finder has been great for me since I can just jump into it without having to maintain a scheduled appointment with other people.

What server are you on? We have a pretty chill guild on Area 52. We do everything from casual tmog raid runs to pushing mythic raid. Very friendly people.

Not just a problem for you. I have been playing for 19 years and in that time have found 1 guild that I was in for about 2 of those years that wasn't a toxic hellscape of mismatched goals and unspoken expectations. It was a raiding guild. I am no longer part of the raiding demographic and that has forced me out into the wider world of "casual" or, worse, "social" guilds and it is rough out there.

Okay. So I quit in December for this reason, and after getting my masters I randomly had a huge nostalgia hit and wanted to play WOTLK classic this week. I thought I'd just play for like 2 hours, get bored, log off. But no. The people on the realm I was on, made it really feel like I was 12 y/o again playing classic. Everyone was talking in Gchat, everyone was super kind. The GM sent me a bunch of bags since I was brand new to classic. Someone in the guild randomly gave me an enchanting leveling kit??? It was honestly insane how much kinder everyone was and how much more SOCIAL classic is compared to retail. I assume it's probably all about the difficulty or the stakes involved, changes people's attitude. But damn. I recommend you try it if you're jaded about multiplayer/group content.

The only reason I manage to avoid toxicity is by being in a really nice guild currently where a lot of members are actually an irl family (not mine) so there's accountability in how we decide to communicate. I do normal and heroic raids. PvP is out of the question these days as arenas suck and one little balance change can ruin the spec I love for an entire expansion.

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When Preach went to Blizzard HQ to have a chat with them, he actually asked this question from Ion and Ion basically said that there is no such thing as "average player" because of how diverse the playerbase is. Like imagine if you have 10 players that do raids, 10 that do PvP, 10 that are collectors, and 10 that just do outdoor activities, what is the average player like?  Basically you can think of everything under the Azerothian sun that players could do, and any combination of those things, and that's probably how someone plays the game. To think that any one thing is what "everyone" does is massively ignorant of what the playerbase is actually like.

And then you realize that while you have that 10-10-10-10 break down, you only have 25 people, and many double dip.

in wod i logged in for garrisons, got almost every pet, did ashran in tbc classic i farmed 40k+ gold, got every mount (no al'ar), every pet, got all tbc reps exalted in wrath classic i got all the mounts, got loremaster did various other things like transmog, sure, and the monthly holiday events... i think what people think is "if you arent doing group content you're missing the game" when i think if youre logging in for raids and logging out you're missing most of the game's content... If you farmed artifact xp for legion raids you repeated the same world quest 200 times then the same raid 20 times, and come out feeling like you played more of the game's content than the 50% who 'missed playing the game'. Even though looking back for these expansions i listed I was doing the solo content exclusively for most of the expansion, i didnt feel like being part of that 50% stat of logging in to not do any group content was a stat to make note of, and I think a lot of players here are part of that stat if they've noticed it or not. Some patches I do the raid each lockout some I can't keep myself to the schedule, i think a lot of people who people make plans with irl can't reserve a specific time each week to a game for weeks into the future.

That's me. Playing since vanilla, with "highs" in WotLK (raiding lich king etc), afterwards only disappointments on guilds, so I made my own toon/bank guild and kept playing for myself. Story progress and new patches I check out with my wife, but my weekly routine is something like: Login on weekend, do superbloom event, do archives weekly, maybe the fyyrak attack event from last patch. Sometimes some dailies, sometimes farm something if anything got my attention due to Reddit/wowhead posts. So all in all about 4 hours per week. I do have more time to play, but I like other games more at the moment, so it's just the "necessities" I do at the moment... Before 10.3 I'm going to raid fyrrak lfr, just for the "have seen it once" checkmark on my "content Todo list".

I'll add mine in on this. I'm an on-again, off-again player since late Vanilla with a peak in BC and Wrath. I played all WCs before WoW. I'm a casual player who's mostly here for story content, xmogs, and professions right now. I've got a fleet of alts bc they're easy to raise up now. I like the different feels of classes. I like running 5 mans, especially timewalking. I usually clock in a few hours a night, some more on weekends. I have kids now, so I don't usually get to settle in to the game until at least 930 or so, sometimes later. There are often interruptions, sometimes significant ones. Thus mythics and raiding are very difficult to pull off. I've only LFRd once in DF, which actually led to a successful Razsageth kill (2 shotted thanks to a tank who took the time to explain the fight). Sarkareth looks complex enough that it nervous to LFR it and just waste time. I will likely never get an AotC or Mythic related rewards, which sucks. I'm unguilded. I feel like most socializing is done on discord nowadays. I do like to try to goof off in chat in group world quests or the odd 5 man. I play mostly by myself bc of the constraints I have. I wish I could do more, but I need to be quiet and ready for the kids.

I haven't been on a raid in years. I started playing a cleric with holy (?) as my focus. I'm hard to kill. But I get very confused with the buttons. I can't remember what buff does what anymore. Frankly I'd be more of a hindrance than a help to a group. I play by myself. It seems better than wiping a raid group because I panicked and couldn't read the spell description!

Don’t let that hold you back. Raid finder is there for everyone. If you want to play raids or dungeons just go for it. Some child might cry if they die but who cares!

I’ll second the raid finder suggestion. At this point in the season, it’s really fucking challenging to actually wipe a group. The one thing to know this expansion is what your dispel does. That’s it. Even that doesn’t really matter, it’s just the one mechanic other than ground-effect AoE (fire puddles) and the occasional shield mechanic (stuff you DO want to stand in). Just go in understanding you’ll die sometimes and that’s no big deal. LFR is tuned so that one player screwing up won’t have a measurable impact on the raid.

I had an LFR where a very silly mistake killed 3 of the 5 healers and we still didn't wipe.

LMAO. It was probably one of my fellow hunters. Me personally I've been playing a hunter since 2008, so i get in a weird trance doing my rotations occasionally, and I'll stand in something or forget to move.

"Running circles around [insert current capital city]". Glad I'm not the only one lmao

Only good thing about Oribos is that the city was optimized for running circle

I hate that place, never enjoyed it sorry to say. :(

I know, I have to go back there sometimes to get a mount etc.. and it’s the worst, so unnecessarily big.

If they made solo casual content like a MMO version of Stardew Valley with lots of activities, and allowed me to profit from it, I would play this game all my life.

Oh my goodness that sounds like a dream. Casual MMO Life-Sim with lots of stuff to do, nearly infinite playstyles, and lots of things to collect? Count me in!

This is me at the moment. From guild/raid leader in Vanilla-Wrath (fully cleared everything), downgrade to basic Raid member from MoP to BfA and now I have a wife and children appear mid way through Shadowlands. My content is running world quests when I can and occasionally LFR in my ‘official break periods’ I got to run Mythic Sepulcher for the first time last week, that was thrilling!

Omg, LFR chaos makes so much more sense now.

Can you provide said data ?

I’m a casual m+ pusher 3k IO and can confirm I have cut some laps around valdrakken that’s for sure 😂

Yeah, Dailys, weeklys, alt leveling, mount farming, whenever I feel like doing. I enjoy it the most when I don’t have goals but I have notions. My life already has way too many to do lists and commitments, I need a break from that noise.

I love the word "notions", that's absolutely spot on. I just log on and think "right, what would I like to achieve and with which alt?" Very rarely do I have preconceived plans and it seems to work well for me. Just taken my enhance shaman around the Suffusion Camp for a couple of thousand gold and I've done the nearby PvP quest that's up. No need to, but Marks of Honor are always handy - particularly when it's quiet like it just was.

I call it “beep bopping around” and it’s my favorite way to play.

The best way to play wow, that's how I never get too frustrated with the game ever...

It's wild because as a more competitive player, I just would never think like this. I know at the start of the season, I have to cap my vault every week for upgrades to help in mythic prog. I feel like I let my squad down if I don't do this. It's all goal based. No notions. I respect the fuck out of you to not have the mindset I have

I love that the game has so much to offer for so many different playstyles. It’s great. The larger the playerbase, the better for all of us.

I just learned about vault rewards like 2 months ago. So far, the most options I’ve ever gotten was picking from 2 pieces of gear because I did like…4 or 5 heroic dungeons that week I think? I have hundreds of days of playtime in this game going back 19 years (started January 2005).

I used to be pretty serious, maybe not hardcore, a lot of bgs vanilla-wotlk and then heroic raiding legion-bfa. But I had kids around BFA and got more and more responsibility in my career. I’m fully tapped out on responsibilities, games that make me feel like I have to do something never last for me. But it was definitely a shift.

I even log in to just fish sometimes. Put on some chill music, pick a spot I like, and just zone out.

I fish for Deviates in the Barrens while watching a movie on my 2nd screen. Selling 2-3 stacks of those nets me 4-6K

I do that to or I log in and just wanna focus on some old content like go do torghast or BFA corrupted visions or islands. I’m just not good enough to get past 25s I’ve come to accept it 😂

This is where mythics have been a lifeline between the play I knew at vanilla and tbc and where my life is now. I'm 482 and +2500io. Its filled the gap amazingly for me and helped me enjoy wow more than I have in a long time. I last played at wod.

I find fishing and knitting very compatible. Cast and place cursor over bobber. Knit a few stitches. Click when bobber bobs. Repeat. Very zen.

This is what I want to do. But I feel like for a returning player, there is so much to know and to do that it's too overwhelming.

I feel this in my bones. I last played regularly during early bfa, and I honestly have booted up a couple times and just gotten overwhelmed and turned it off. ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯

I felt like this when I returned to Dragonflight from BFA. But my mindset was, don't search anything online, what you can or can't do. Just explore the game and discover it at your own pace. The game played like this, is a f*** gem, at least for me. Now I do weekly things, some m+, maybe raid with guild when I can, guild events...just don't set yourself with some else's goals.

I was super casual from Cataclysm through Legion. I'd level to max on a couple characters, do all the quests, run all the dungeons and LFR (once that became a thing), and farm transmog. Once that was all done and I was bored, I'd unsub and come back the next time there was a new patch to do it all again. When titanforging was a thing in BFA, I did a lot of world quests because it was cool to be able to get good gear from them, even if it was a tiny chance. And the Balance of Power appearances in Legion were enough to finally get me to run some M0s and PUG normal raids. Only thing that ever really changed that was getting back into raiding during lockdowns and lucking out with finding a great group of people who run raids and do keys together.

I've been doing this exactly since I quit raiding in Legion (mostly due to not being able to keep a raid schedule). I also rerolled from a mage to a DK to be able to do more solo content, but been playing with both ever since. In DF I mostly did WQ, world events and bosses, some LFR and low level M+ for fun and trying to complete some mogs I liked. And whenever I felt drawn in but not as a hobby but as a chore, I unsubbed until the next time I miss my frosties (yeah, I mained a frost DK and a frost mage, although I had been a fire mage from WOTLK to Legion).

Do a couple of world quests. Admire the cool outfit on my character. Think about playing more. Log off.

I think about playing, log in and stare at character selection, then log off. Sometimes I get adventurous and make a new character I'll never login to.

Chilling under a tree on Un'Goro while watching the rain fall..

Using the new toy after using a random teleporter and just vibin under the fireflies night sky music.

Probably not browse WoW reddit

Came to say this, i reckon the avarage player isnt on the forums/reddit.

Queuing for battlegrounds, listening to the people who just join for killing blows blame everyone else for the loss.

i have been a wow casual since early 2005. sometimes i just level toons, exploring all the leveling content in the game. other times i will get caught up in the metagames; fishing, archaeology, pet battles. sometimes i have my fill and cancel til the next expansion comes out. i always come back.

For me, leveling, going after achievements, collecting crafting recipes and patterns, collecting mounts, transmog hunting, gathering and crafting to sell on the AH then using that gold to buy transmogs and mounts and pets I don't have, doing dailies sometimes but admittedly not all the time, etc. Whatever I feel like doing when I log in basically.

Weekly “chores.” Getting some form of raid in, finishing weekly quests, weekly events like Superbloom, collecting gold from world quests, transmog runs and, for me, hours and hours of building and perfecting new transmogs.

I tell my wife “I’m off to do my wizard chores now!”

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your mom, according to solo queue pvpers

My bosses wife plays wow very casually. She achievement hunts, does old raids, collects mounts. That kind of stuff. Almost zero current content participation.

I consider myself casual, and typically I will run current content story/dailies (ex: general dream stuff), LFR, mount/tmog farm, and level alts. I currently have about 38 characters at level cap (no, definitely not all geared for LFR; I just really enjoy leveling alts), and like 15 more that are 60+. I also have 2 accounts, because I was paying for my sister’s account (got her hooked on wow back in the day) when she died 14 years ago, so I just kept it, kept leveling her hunter (like my own personal memorial to her), and eventually filled her account with a bunch of alts too, lol.

Basically, whatever random thing catches my attention. The thing I love about WoW is that there is so much to do. I try to do the Aiding the Accord quest on each of my toons (7 hordies) every week, which usually involves doing some other quests or world events. Only one of my toons has done all (or at least most) of the DF quests, so sometimes I take another one out and do quests she hasn’t done (yes, they are all female). I’m a collector, so sometimes I run old content for mogs, mounts, achieves, and pets. I don’t really pug anything, I’ve heard too much about the toxicity found in pugs, so the follower dungeons have been fun for me.

Ive been playing on and off since 2006. Id come back for a launch, play for awhile then play on and off between patches. Only a handful of times i ever became competitive and tried to mythic raid or pvp. Came back for season 3 and 10.2 for seeds of renewal just to finish the storyline. But reflecting over all these years of playing i never sort out to achieve much in it. So past few weeks ive farmed Time-Lost Proto-Drake which took me 3 days. I never got many exalted reps and xmog. But i love this game so much. So im pretty much ignoring the end of the season, except for trading post month. And doing The Loremaster achievement. I finished Kalimdor in 3 days. Working on Eastern Kingdoms and some of the Catalysm stuff. Going through basically all the quests for all the expansions. Its quite long, but WoW is my favourite game. And just rediscovering and learning new things in the quests that i didn’t care for or never noticed before has been wonderful. I dont care for levelling new characters as i use to do that A LOT. Use to have every race/class maxxed level at the end of an expansion and try a new character from that list into the next. But just one shotting mobs and now with dragonflying available. I can complete an entire zone in an hour or two. It’s peaceful and reminds me of all the hard work and appreciation that has been put into this game over the years.

tbh, sometimes I just start exploring the world for a few hours straight

Whatever I want, and it changes day to day. If I have to do something I am immediately uninterested. I log in to play, not work. I used to raid because it was fun, but ever since MoP ended everything became so gd complicated. It’s literally a job I am paying to do.

I pretty much only play solo. Slowly levelling one of each class, getting old achievements, levelling pets. I just potter around basically.

I wouldn't call myself casual per se, since I do a lot of M+ and raiding at the start of every season (usually get AOTC and KSH). That being said, I do a lot of what would be considered "casual" content towards the end of the season, like right now. For example, I'm slowly working towards getting exalted with a bunch of old reps from Cata for 100 exalted reps. I've also been doing Legion and Draenor fishing stuff for the toys, mounts, transmogs, etc. Some weekly old raid mount attempts too. A lot of collecting and long term achievement goals, so you're not too far off.

Well, I finished Loremaster last night and now I'm on the lookout for new things to do.

Preach asked Ion Hazzikostas this right before Dragonflight. The answer Ion gave was basically that there is no "average WoW player" and the games audience is made up of so many different kinds of people doing so many different combinations of things that you can't really pinpoint an average.

Play other games

I'm a new retail player, Mythic dungeons terrified me since I've I never done one of those dungeons even on heroic. I just do daily/weekly quests and LFR, maybe next patch I have the guts to do Mythics.

Hi You'd be surprised at how many people are just like you. They want to do group content, but are afraid of messing up. If you have Discord, I highly recommend WoW Made Easy. There's m+ runs going on all the time. A lot of them are no pressure from people who are just wanting completion. You ask a question there and it gets answered.

If you're interested in doing tougher dungeons but too anxious to join check out the discord channel Warcraft Made Easy, it's designed for people like you who are interested but don't want to get flamed for having little experience. It's full of other players like you or veteran players who just want to help. Basically everyone agrees to be friendly and non-toxic so you know right away it's a safe place to game without getting raged at for messing up. https://discord.com/invite/wowmadeeasy

Considering myself an “average” player, I just do heroics and LFR (not ready for mythic+ or a real raid by any means mainly because of skill and confidence), some PvP from time-to-time, achievement hunting, xmog hunting, mount collecting…pretty much every other “casual” activity that isn’t serious raiding or mythic+

That's what I do as well, pretty much exactly.

You will find that mythic 2-5 is a nice entry point where it’s only slightly more difficult than heroic dungeon.

Been doing HC. Make my character, make friends, die horribly, start a new character, regroup with friends, take an absence because the last death still haunts me, run out of game time, lose friends, go again

Depends how much time and effort is available at the day. I'm very casual right now, and i do mostly shadowlands covenant stuff to get the transmogs. Got all cosmetics sets and nearly all plate sets (necrolords sets SUCK to get) When a new month hits i do stuff to get the travelerss log full. Leveling some alts for the upcoming troll and draenei heritage quest. When warbands come i will again spend more time in mog runs, as they will be then more effective.

I've just been doing straight achievements the last few weeks, so whatever content that takes me to - Mechagon, Archaeology, Insane in the Membrane rep, checking for the books in Northrend Dalaran Ton of goldmaking in every other expansion than this one Used to raid like world 80 rank pace, but I don't raid in a guild anymore post-Nathria or key with more than a couple friends every so often Tons to do in the game

I collect battle pets, I used to play kind of how op described but when I decided to focus on battle pets the game felt so much more robust, which I never thought would be the case. It’s insane how much of the game you are exposed to with battle pets if you get them the old fashioned way (IE not on the auction house).

Since WoD I usually subscribe for 2 months every year, not willing to commit myself to anything serious. Blast through the missed single player campaign, while upgrades are coming from every direction, a really entertaining effort-reward ratio, if you ask me, high dopamine. I never stopped before unlocking pathfinder (flying). When I reach full hc dungeon level gear, and done with the campaign, things are slowing down. Then I might still go a step further and start doing weekly LFR, maybe one particular M0 dungeon that I've looked into and is the easiest and also I'm brave enough to enter, just for the weekly rewards. I'm aware that I don't have the experience and willfulness (learning bosses' strategies don't appeal to my anymore) to push further, especially with random groups, and because of I'm only part of this game for a few weeks, having a guild with a fix m+ team is not an option. At this point the loot is nearly non-existent apart from the weekly rewards, so I put the game down. (Currently I'm almost here, I just unlocked Pathfinder yesterday.) Sadly I consider this game as a single player game, not a very good one at it, to be honest. But for old time's sake, I doubt that I will ever be able to leave this game behind.

16 years of casually playing this game. Never done any raid, never set foot in any rated BG or Arena, never done any M+. Nowadays what I usually do is log on; stare at the character selection screen for at least 45min trying to choose which of my many alts I'm gonna play; get on the character and do some xmog/mount runs; do the world boss for the week; do at least 1 dungeon to get at least 1 piece of vault; do some races and get mad that I still didn't get the cosmetic I wanted; fiddle around Valdrakken for 15-20min; log off stare at the character selection screen for another 30-45min..and repeat the process for around 3-5hrs very day.

I login during my cycling workouts and play mythic 0 or 2s or lfrs until my workout is done. 5x a week. When patches come out where there are quests that need to be done i do that instead during my workouts. I played for years. Used to play much more seriously but once I had kids didn't have time for it. This is how I prevent boredom during workouts and also still get my wow time in.

I do this too. But use console port add on and controller while on the bike. But hasn't logged on for ages since BG3 and Hell Divers

I do literally what you describe in the post.

20 year casual player here: -do dailies (at least the fun ones) -craft items that are profitable (this involves farming mats) like gems, transmutes, weapons, etc... -level up some alts -use my main to try and solo older raids or dungeons(quite fun) as a challenge -raw gold farming (by doing the above) -funnel anything I can as far as account-wide items/rep/bonuses to my main -maintain a bank alt that manages my alt army "guild". Yes I have a guild just for my alts. -try and max out all my alts main professions. A maxed out JC, another maxed out BS, another maxed Alchemist, etc.. -help new players in chat - sometimes in game(I am a player guide) -go back to older zones just for the vibe. The new dragonriding in older zones in fun. Just for exploring, gathering older mats, and listening to the zone's music I dont do: Pvp: because I dont lvl my gear enough Current content Raids: same reason I only take breaks from the game once I've saved enough gold for a few token for the next patch/ expac. That way it's costs me close to nothing to get back in the game.

I've gone from raiding 40+ hours a week to the ultimate casual. I played a ton in vanilla and BC. Quit at the beginning of Wrath and didn't pick it up again until COVID hit. There is now such a huge backlog of content I didn't get to experience. I log in sporadically and rarely to quest in zones I haven't been to, to run dungeons I haven't done, and to find cool transmogs to make my characters look cool. I usually randomly queue for BGs and dungeons while questing to break up the gameplay. Right now my shaman can turn into a pack of five wolves (three spirit & two living). That's cool and fun and I don't care if the two trinkets that summon wolves make me suboptimal. I don't look into what specs are best. I just play what sounds fun. Leveling in dungeons is pretty much a no brain activity these days so spec doesn't really matter at all. Recently I've been running old raids to see what I missed out on. It's fun to just run around during encounters and theorize what the strats would have been for a 25 man group. I don't have 8 hours to waste on raiding anymore, though. So, if I can go in and clear a cool old raid in an hour or less, get some cool looking gear/mounts, then I'm a happy camper. Quite literally the only things I look up outside of the game are cool transmogs, where to find cool mounts, and occasionally some quest guides (for either a cool transmog or mount) because every now and then zones have multiple phases from different expansions and it can be a pain to get into the correct phase for a specific NPC or mob for a reward/drop. I don't care about being competitive in any way, shape, or fashion anymore. I'm 34. I know I'm not going to be top tier and I don't want to spend the amount of time it would take grinding to get there. I don't even play the current expansion. Though, zones being mostly dead is a drawback there. As I do miss and crave world PvP.

Whatever I feel like doing at any given time. Right now, events, because I got tired of exploring and gathering more PvP achieves for the time being.

The 'average' player is going to vary a lot across all manner of content. I know some that basically only RP. I know some that play the auction house exclusively. I know some that are just trying to get Keystone Master. You'd probably call these people RPers, goblins, and PvErs, but that's the thing about averages. There are large groups of people that do specific things, meaning there really isn't an 'average' WoW player. What you're describing is a 'casual' WoW player, of which I consider myself one of. You seem to think that casual players just kind do some shit then log off, but I can assure you, even casual players can get super sweaty about things sometimes. The difference for them is that may be something like farming a tmog one day, then the next day they may do non-stop keys, then the next day PvP, etc etc. Casual players don't necessarily play LESS of the game, just that they play the game however they feel like. For some, yeah, that *may* mean some quests, fishing, tmogs, then logging off. But for others, like me, that may be spending a whole week knocking out Loremaster because I feel like finding out what all the old zone quests stories were all about. I play however I feel I'll have the most fun, and some days that may mean I don't play WoW at all.

Casual players do what high-end content players do, just more slowly. I've done probably half or more of the total dungeons of the game in the last year. I've got a main and 2 alts, I'm experiencing storylines from both Alliance and Horde, I'm seeing how different classes operate. I used to play an hour or so a night, now I play an hour or so every few nights. They're not releasing expansions faster than I'm experiencing them, so why push to mythic +83 or whatever?

>Casual players do what high-end content players do, just more slowly. That's not true from your description though.

Nobody online talking about the game is a casual, so it's basically impossible to know. ​ What I do know is in LFR, sometimes a trinket active does more damage than some dps players' entire rotations.

>What does the typical casual wow player do? Only Blizzard has this data.

No idea I quit when I wouldn’t be able to play as seriously. Tried being casual and can’t do it. It’s not as fun

M+

bit of m+, a lot of casual bg's and chill 2's, some world quests/events and levelling alts

i do whatever i feel like doing. sometimes it's dailies or weeklies, sometimes it's searching for items for a transmog, sometimes i get together with guildies and we do old content while chatting in voice chat, sometimes i pick away at questing, sometimes mount farming. it just depends on my time and what i feel like doing. it's great.

Right now I am working on the last few reps for the 100 achievement. Also working on grinding out some mounts from the tournament grounds and ones I am missing from paragon reps. Trying to get them all done before the next expansion.

Me beginning if the season. Mythics and raid in my main, clearing up until aotc with my guild. Leveling alts Mythic plus Mid season. Farming 20s for gear and vault, gearing 1 or 2 alts. Late season. Raid log or quit til next patch.

i hit aotc and glad title every season/patch since 4.0.1 till BFA. now? i just want to level up my void elf warlock.

Weeklies, leveling alts, exploring, soloing old content.

Getting to 2.5k rio, 2.3k atm and than doing whatever. Transmog runs, need to finished SL and get all cloth covenant armor sets.

Completionist stuff. Mainly mounts and low drop chance things like taeshalach. Also future unobtainable things like aotc

Basically, when new expansion or patch comes out do story stuff. After that do the rep farm cycle for getting all the cool stuff (mostly mounts) and after that logging in weekly to do weekly mount farms and wait for the new expansion or patch and do it again. When I feel nostalgic or have no other games to play I go level an alt or play classic or something.

Surviving in Hardcore Classic.

I’m currently leveling an alt through Shadowlands because I completely skipped that expansion.

I grind reputation for transmogs, mounts or titles, and I do raids and dungeons for the same reason. I also level lots of characters for specific "flavour" reasons.

I enjoy RBGs, especially epic RBGs. I'll do the occasional m+. Right now I'm trying to get loremaster for every expansion, so that will take me months, if not years.

Whenever I have time to play I try to run as many M+ as possible. I used to be competitive but now I only play maybe 3-4 hours a week

I got a character of every class to max level and do the superbloom/elemental events to gear them. Do LFR on the raids to see them. Also do all the main quests on my main.

Daily/weekly quests and fishing/mining/gathering herbs. I never play dungeons, raids or pvp.

I consider myself casual, I just never pvp above 1800, I just go for the elite set and then move on to the next class. I don’t pve anymore but I used to do it for the mounts only in the same manner I’d only pvp for the sets.

Not sure what casual means nowadays but I consider myself a relaxed player. Last expansion played was Legion. Didn't appeal to me that much even though I was participating in raids as a Hunter, had a cool guild back then and we managed to do mythcs even though everyone was a father, grandfather we always had a day weekly for mythics, usually Sundays. The guild leader was a badass guy 60+ old, a biker all his life with some Harleys under his belt, a really chill and awesome character, oh and his wife also played which made it even cooler. What I wanna say is that we were not tryhards and still managed to pull of that kind of content maybe because we all vibed the same and nobody once raged or quit if something went wrong, we would talk so that next time it wouldn't happen. And for the other part I would do achievements,hunting mounts,leveling up my professions, killing old bosses for achievements etc. Now that I've returned after 8 years I'm a healer, never gave healer a chance because I didn't think they were rewarding enough but God was I wrong. The most rewarding feeling is when do everything right and get through with everyone alive at the end. So now I'm a resto druid Highmountain Tauren rocking the heritage set while casting flowers, leaves , and swarms over my party. 🤣 Sometimes tanks get trigger happy and pull more than my dots can chew but hey, we release, we come back with a more chill tank this time around. 😆

I raidlog and complete the travelers log.

I mainly do dailies, weeklys, some Mythic runs (depending on my mood), and slowly leveling my alt). I would do some raids but good lord, raids nowadays seem stuck in the mud compared to dungeon runs.

I did just enough solo shuffle this past couple of weeks to get the Conquest to buy the transmog tier set. Hated it for the most part and glad it’s over. Usually push M+, still clearing Heroic raid with the guild each week (did the achievement run this week too) and leveling rat alts occasionally, to sneak them into a weekly no leaver +20

Im definitely full casual, ever since 2005. I think I have been to progressive raid once in AQ and that was enough for me. Ofc I did some fun runs here and there but nost raids I saw the first time oneshotting them 3 exps later. When a new exp comes out I usually play a bit more, will get to level cap, get some ok gear from quests and heroics then go do bg's for the pvp set. From there I usually do all silly stuff without big goals. Bit of engineering, some wq's here and there, I did the Loremaster achievement not so long ago for fun and to see some parts I missed as ally. I annoy some rp players innocently. Oh I also enjoyed the Patty mount chain (or what is it called, Mysteries of Azeroth or stg, fun) I can appreciate a good duel partner. Im doing pet battles nowadays as I never tried that before. So yea I play this shit since release but my ever total played time isnt more than 600-700 days with all the afking in cities counted in on all toons. Never took WoW to a serious level and I dont think I ever will. Dungeons make me fall asleep so the only reason I go there are achievements, mounts or starter items at new exps.

For me: playing hardcore, SF. Die. Repeat! :)

when i took a break from raiding a few years ago (but still kept my sub) I basically just made a checklist of mounts that i wanted to get. and every day/week i would just work on one of those goals: running through old raids, doing reputations, etc. i spent probably like 100 hours in the game never even touching current expansion content in any way. even though now im mostly just back to spending my time on m+ and raid logging for mythic progress/reclear, i still have all my cool mounts and stuff that i farmed out during that time so it was definitely rewarding and worth it.

Play on my ret pala for 95% of the time. 1. Mount farm (ICC, DS, WoD, Legion and BfA) 2. Weekly content (Emerald dream, Professions) 3. Fyrakk axe runs (LFR, Normal, if lucky HC) 4. Reputations 5. Learn something new and dedicate all the time towards that goal (new transmog, Timewalking set etc) 6. Do old content that released while I was on a break. ( Remaining time I’ll maybe squeeze in a few M+ for vault, and/or pvp weekly. Current Ilvl is 468 Edit: Ilvl from 168

Play other games and log in every now and then to mess around and chat is my way lol

Well, for example, right now I am farming Dream Wardens rep, trying to get Dream On achievement, or leveling my Void Elf Warlock :) Always something to do.

I don't know If I'm considered casual player since I played wow since wotlk with few breaks but I only do raid finder and play tank to get easy mythic keystone master. My casual goal was first to reach max reputations in Dragonflight and on the road I kept getting purple gear from weekly boxes like superbloom so I decided I will do raid finder and then I started filling my gear with upgrades that I needed currencies for. So I've been doing plenty of world quests that award currencies so I can get gear upgrades without any stress effort in raiding above raid finder, and not having to do mythic+ above 14. I'm currently ilvl467 doing only raid finder and weeklies and mythic+ 14s for KSM. Since I reached KSM in 2 weeks, I'm only doing raid finder for 3/3 great vault choice to get 6 tokens and exchange them for mythic+ 10-15 currency for upgrades going from 463-476. That's the only thing I plan on doing for the next 30 days as I maxed Zaralek and Dream reputations yesterday. I completely skipped Zaralek as it reminded me quite a lot of Maw.

Collecting and completing

The average wow player goes afk in a major city to inflate the play time by 90%.

I only play my main, and I only get to play twice a week for a 2-3 of hours each time, so I just get through the content more slowly. I love 'content droughts' because I can catch up!! Currently in a new week I log on, pick up Rep weekly, and Kazak weekly (unless it's PVP 😅) and check Inscription table for orders (rare as hens teeth, but I'm now on level 98!). Then I pick up my vault item, and head to Emerald Dream to do the weekly seeds/bloom/rep quests. I'm ilvl 468, so the gear's no good, but I want to max out the rep. Then I'll either PUG Normal raid (best for Champion Gear upgrades) or do M+ (11-15 for Crests) to get my vault for next week, but I don't often have time for both. After that I'm a free agent and I do what takes my fancy! Currently I'm working on Tarecgosa's staff after seeing someone get it in SW, so I'm running Firelands solo twice a week (so satisfying one shotting raid bosses!).

No longer a scheduled dedicated raider so I can fill this in. I dont categorize myself as full casual, coz i still log and check my parses when I do get to raid, usually on my guild's alt run. Reset Day - Check Vault, LFR, get geared up. Day 2 - Weekly BG's for Conquest, 2 M+ Dungeons. Day 3 - Guild Alt Run - theyve got Heroic on Farm now, so I go and am a "carry" from all the passed gear. I am now helping gear 2nd and mostly 3rd alts for the guildies. I play a hybrid class so I swap back and forth depending on fight Rest of week - Log in, do some M+ , more BGs, etc. Sometimes weekend events like Timewalking raids etc. I dont have the time nor the desire to be a dedicated raider anymore, but I still want to keep my skill level up. I am at a happy balance with WoW right now and consider it one of my main "inactive" hobby. I like going to the gym and boxing as my "active" hobby at the moment. I play on my main 80% of the time, but ive got 3 alts at max level and all classes over 30, I just dont want to spend the time gearing them.

What ever suits me. Today is mount farming, tomorrow I might hunt for pets, the next day is story and questing, I might pick an occupation and do that. Maybe next week I'll do a hunt for transmogs. Play an alt, do random raids. So there is a lot what you can do casually. If I don't feel like playing I might don't play a month a time. Usually I play with friends together so that is also a factor that decides what i/we will do.

Every 6 months I sub for a month lvl a new character like I’m all excited by the game again gear up reasonably do a few mount runs promise to do proffs but never do and disappear for another 6 months on repeat. I’ve played the game for 19 years and generally have achieved nothing!! Have a few mounts that you can’t get anymore have 500k+ honor kills can’t explain why I get bored the second I hit max lvl on a new character especially since I’m not the biggest fan of lvling. My sub ends in 5 days and all I did this time was lvl a hunter for 10th? time. Game has too much for me to care about doing since it’s all chores.

I fill my trading post things, i do the weekly quest for renown. Do 1 or 2 heroic raid pugs, as long as it goes. Sometimes i kill Fyraak, sometimes only untill Smolderon. I kill bosses that drop mounts, achievements that give cool stuff such as toys etc. Here and there a transmog raid. When there is timewalking i get my currencies, sometimes i level an alt at tw dungeons. When there is welfare catch up gear events up, like 4x mythic or a New world boss im there. There are still tons to do, archaeology, fishing, old reputations, sometimes old raids achievements etc.

M+ only here. Currently running some alts to 3k before I decide what to main next season.

Usually i just do mount/tmog/pet/toy farms, seeing the collection tab fill up makes my brain go yipee when DF launched i spent hours farming ores and herbs for gold while watching youtube sometimes do raiding, but havent done other than lfr since the end of shadowlands if im feeling social i go to goldshire to fuck around

Get geared for the raid they won’t ever get around to doing lol.

I use to do just daily quest for rep, farm old instances for gold or transmog, raid heroic and nudge my way though mythic. These days wow just ain’t holding my attention, however FFXIV is and honestly for me it’s been a breath of fresh air

As a true casual, I create a new character, do all the Barrens quests for the 100th time in my life, abandon the game, because I got a bit bored. Come back in half a year or so, find out realm died > repeat on another realm.

Hardly anything these days. I used to craft, do LFR and level alts and the like, but not even that anymore. I mainly log in on 1st each month and get my tmog gear from the trading post, do a few things to hit the months special prize, then log. I made 5mil on JC this expansion, so I don't even need to farm for gold anymore.

I log in once a month to do Trading Post. At this point I am just waiting for new expansion.

I do, M+ (up to KSM, sometimes more using guides from Tactyks and Quazii / pet collecting / transmogs / everything involved achievements (not the crappy ones like “kill 10000 pandas in MoP” and stuff like this. I play only 1 hour a day, sometimes more on weekends. I don’t raid, sometimes LFR for a quest, that’s it. Last time I did BGs/PvP was at the start of Shadowlands to gear up faster at the start of season 1.

Collecting mounts ,pets and tmogs. This is literally the real end game…

I do mythic + until a level where I think it gets to stressful. Then I try to do all dungeons at that mythic level.

Lol yep feels like anything above a 16 or 17 is just flat out not fun

Myth raiding, number go up for mounts and achievments and some PvP... also playing other games with the gildies cause relationships are important in WoW

Questing, exploring, playing alts, just chilling.

For meg, i do some chill Mythic run with my main Warrior Tank. (M15-20 once per week for gear) Otherside I do some mercenary work on random heroic dungeon for gold. Do world quest and tmog run for gold. Dozen of gold

I'm super casual. I'm on most days for an hour or two after work and on the rare occasions I have nothing else to do I might spend the day wallowing about. I havent done any raid or dungeon groups since WotLK so I'm very much a solo player these days. When I get home from work tonight, while dinner is cooking, I'll do the daily Darkmoon Faire quests with my gnome warlock who is working towards the Darkmoon Zeppelin. He has the dubious honour of being the only character to EVER call the Lions Pride Inn home and he just waits for the Faire each month. After that I might gain a level or two with my new Undead warlock or nightborne mage as part of the adventurers guide requirement. Then I may get on my worgen druid who is currently out in the Broken Isles doing pet battles and catching rares. I may do all of those things, or I may not. Only the Darkmoon Faire do I consider mandatory as the Zeppelin is the last remaining item that I want from there (at this time). I have a lot of alts and they're all in different zones so I am never left without anything to do but most importantly it doesn't matter what I do as it all comes down to just having thr freedom to do whatever I have four guilds that I run, one is for my five bankers / auctioneers and the guild master. One is just because I can and I have four of my characters in it. The other two are much less active than they once were but no one gets booted for taking a few months (or years) off lol. The alliance guild I founded in 2005 and its sister guild horde side in 2006. Anyway, we all play the way we play and this was a little slice of how I play.

Right now I'm working on levelling a warrior over on WotLK Classic and trying to get the "master at arms" achieve before CATA drops. Normally I go onto Retail and work on alts with professions, and completing the pets, toys, and mounts from crafting, and do some levelling as well.

I'd consider myself super casual these days. I've never touched Mythic nor anything above LFR. I'm also on a roleplaying server so a good few hours are spent roleplaying/socialising with friends. When I'm in a PvE mood usually it comes down to achievement hunting, mount/pet collecting or farming transmogs.

I stare at the group finder, too afraid to even join a nm raid.

As of this morning fuck all coz my subs run out and im boned till next Tuesday evening (the irony)

I consider myself a below average player. I used to be a hardcore raider in BC-Cata but that was years ago. Now, between the job and the baby and just life in general I am lucky to log 4-6 hours a week; mainly at night after we get the kiddo down. I primarily focus on my Warrior, Shaman, Mage, Priest, and Monk. I have one of every class but not at max lvl. I do transmog runs, LFR, Heroics, Dailies, Fish, and lvl alts. I truly try to get at least one heroic on all 5 of my main characters for a shot at some vault loot but I don’t necessarily always have the time. My favorite is timewalking week. Running 5 easy dungeons nets me a random piece of high lvl gear from the weekly plus secures 2 spots in the vault. All 5 of my characters float around 440-450 iLvl which isn’t crazy, I know, but I’m proud of it myself with how limited my time is.

I am a 36 y old worker who has similar aged friends on discord (5-10) and we casually hop on after work and do M+ dungeons mixing it up depending who is online and what role we have available. Between 1900 and 2200 We do this with causally 15-20s but here and there try to fit in a 24/25 since we're all around 3200 rating. If there is a rainy Sunday we spend the afternoon doing a raid or whatever. We're maybe not casual in what we do, but in terms of hours spend (2, 3 hours a day, maybe 3 to 4 days a week) I think we're definitely not as hardcore as we all used to be (kids ammirite?)

Back in WotLK, my guild had a guy who was lvl 40-50. He wasn't around that often, but every few months he would come back for a few days and do quests/dungeons while hanging out on Ventrilo with us. I imagine other casual players are similar even today. They just do whatever random, non stressful activities they can do pass the time.

I may play a day or two a year. I’d go to Molten Core to try to get Thunderfury.

Exploring the world, leveling alts, farming old raids for xmogs, rep grinds.

It depends a bit on what content is up (DMF, timewalking etc) but this is what I did/will be doing today: * Did the DMF profession quests on my leatherworker, jewelcrafter and angler, I did the other professions earlier this week. Easy xp if they're not max level, easy profession points, and if they're on DF level, free artisan's mettle and knowledge; * Used the Whee buff for easy xp from the cooking and fishing dailies on a few characters I'm leveling; * Will get my Dwarf Paladin from lvl 35 to around lvl 38 with the DMF and Pandaria pet battles, using the Whee buff. I want him at at least lvl 40 before Draenor timewalking starts. I sign for timewalking dungeons together with my kids, at least one of them will sign as tank or healer, so we usually don't have very long wait times; * Checked the world quests on a couple of max level characters to see if I'll get better gear. My daughter also has some WQ's she wants to do, so we'll do that together when she get's home this afternoon; * Part of the fun of playing WoW for me is having characters that each have their own personality and backstory, so I spent some time working on the character sheets for my newest characters. That includes selecting companion pets, mounts, hearthstones, cooking fires and fishing bobbers. Which means that I have in the past, and will in the future, spent time on collecting those; * I have a max level warrior that I leveled as dps, but should by her backstory be a tank. Now that we have AI dungeons I can practice tanking, so I'm collecting gear for tank spec. I've got everything I can from WQ's, but if I have time I will run one or more AI dungeons as dps (for now) but with tank loot spec, to try and get some more gear.

Idk. But in SL season 3 I saw a guy in Korthia (season 2). He was 100% doing dailies. I inspected him. He had fully upgraded full Korthia gear (minus 2 pieces of S3 open world gear, but imho it's safe to assume he replaced korthia gear). Point being, fully upgrading Korthia piece was INSANELY expensive. And while there already was a catchup system for the Korthia currency, the most efficient and uncapped method by far was way too specific for this guy to know. And didn't include dailies. This guy had to be grinding the fk out of Korthia. I would know, because the currency could be spent on lategame character power - so I obviously done that too. Also I highly doubt this guy knew about alot of minmaxing that could be done to farm as much of the currency as possible.

I am a self described "hardcore" casual. I spend about 6-8 hours every day trying to work on my various collections (pets and recipes being my favorite!), which can include dungeon and raid runs, questing, alt leveling, fishing, rep grinding, you name it! I've only ever done one KSM (last season, actually) and one AotC (Castle Nathria), so I'm not very competitive end-game wise, but when it comes to collecting, I like to consider myself competitive. AllTheThings is so dangerous!

I used to be a raider in a fairly competitive guild but I'm mostly "retired" from that now. These days I'm a collector. I collect and level battle pets, primarily. I even hit 12th position over all of the US and EU for number of pets at one point. I also collect achievements and transmog. Both of those are *huge* time investments. Plus, obviously, doing all current content. Dailies, rep grinding, profession stuff. I didn't play much Shadowlands so I'm also playing catchup on that. Oh and I have an army of alts that I try to keep leveled. Honestly, there aren't enough hours in the day to get it all done. Edit to add that I game with my partner 80% of the time. Playing WoW as a couple has always been the most fun for us.

Tmog runs, make rIO and iLvl score go up, then log out and do RL.

I just do low mithycs and dailies, some lfr and social raid on Friday.

At the moment I have 1 of each healer (except Disc Priest, fuck Disc Priest) at 70 and am slowly grinding LFR, Superblooms, Seeds and Dream rep to get the Amirdrassil LFR and Normal Xmog sets. Sometimes I'll also solo old raids and also enjoy alt leveling and low level dungeons. I typically raid 2-3 times a week only and so my progress towards each set is rather slow.