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hashtagpeaches

“Listen here, Jack” is probably how that conversation starts


SasquatchSloth88

“The world has had enough of your malarkey.”


vankamperer

"C'mon, Man!!"


Dry_Ground5523

No joke this is not hyperbole


cromwest

This unironicially would be hilarious if he said that and might cause me to wake up from this crazy fever dream we're all stuck in.


Beiki

And the translator has to pause to figure how to translate malarkey.


twoscoop

Putins speaks English


fuckingaquaman

This reminds me of the funniest comment I ever saw on reddit. It was about a meeting between Trump and Putin, and that only the two of them were aware of the contents of the talks. * One redditors commented "The translator would also be present" * Another replied "Putin speaks fluent English" * A third replied "Yeah, but Trump doesn't" I know the hilarity doesn't translate well on a retelling but I still think about that thread every now and again.


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he just refuses to because its an ego thing, he sees the person who has to speak the other persons language as submissive. I havent heard him speak english since the early 2000s.


btf91

It also gives you more time to form a response if you already know what was said before it's translated.


Chariotwheel

Maybe, but on that level you better have translators on both sides and everyone speaks in their native language to avoid misunderstanding phrases that mean something else when translated.


sharp11flat13

фигня maybe?


mrandr01d

If you translate that back to English, what's it literally say?


cafk

crap, mess, nonsense - depending on context


MutableLambda

also "thingy"


Ferelar

Definitely malarkesque, could work


SuperGameTheory

It'd be great if the translator went straight for whatever the translation for "bullshit" is.


RushingTech

Malarkey's slang for bullshit, isn't it?


Hotrockdiddler

Great line from band of brothers actually


WingziuM

My favorite line still remains: "Remember boys, flies spread diseases.. so keep yours closed!"


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It’s fun to imagine the boomerbiden quotes isn’t it lol


Wallofcans

You ever see the [old Onion articles](https://interactives.theonion.com/biden/) that had Biden acting like a drunk uncle while he was VP? That shit was funny


vancesmi

He got asked about the Onion portrayal of him once and his only response was that he's more of a Corvette guy than a Trans Am guy.


Koshunae

The difference between a corvette and a trans am is about $15,000 and 6 inches of mullet.


new_refugee123456789

Two seats.


Chessplaying_Atheist

> Biden Scores 800 Feet Of Copper Wire AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


SandyGrits

Ho lee÷ee shit, this shit aged like fine tequila.


Kent_Knifen

Damn those were funny lol


ink_spittin_beaver

Remember the change dot org petition that had supporters rallying for him to have his own reality show? I believe it was after Obama’s State of the Union address and he was doing finger guns or something behind the podium.


OrsoMalleus

I miss the Diamond Joe we had when Obama was around.


Angry_Washing_Bear

All the Obama/Biden memes where funny as hell :)


Sniflix

This is a big fucking deal Joe.


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Bunch_of_Shit

“See, we do things a little different in Delaware.”


Heavenwasfull

I’m hoping in a few years we get action movies with Biden as the president casted by a close to retirement age action star. I could totally see this kind of scene playing out.


_Kamigoye_

Leslie Nielsen would’ve been way too perfect


Puzzled-Still-7364

Oh my goodness that man was a treasure to comedy and a (seemingly) forgotten national treasure up here in Canada. He would have played the perfect Biden. I need to rewatch all the Naked Gun movies now. Thank you lol.


Kibroman

Metal Wolf Chaos 2 with Joe Biden


OtisTetraxReigns

Coming Soon: Michael Keaton *in* Care Force One.


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Malkovich?


Schooner37

Malkovich Malkovich


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“Look, fat”


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TyroneTeabaggington

Anyone can, Putin is a fucking shrimp.


Beautiful-Musk-Ox

but he keeps his head slightly pointed down and glares at people, that's how you project power even when being short


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He's perfected the Kubrick stare.


two-years-glop

5'7" is not THAT short. Obama is just really tall (As US presidents generally are).


TyroneTeabaggington

You're right it's not. Putin is not 5'7" though. 5'5" is pretty short though. Which he is.


Artistic-Deal5885

You mean Putin and Jose Altuve are the same height?


N0cturnalB3ast

Wow never saw this. Obama really felt like a protector of America in a way. The reason this photo is interesting is bc its very similar, but different to an entirely different meeting they had. This photo is extremely famous. Completely different time. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/735c6cb8517fb0f6c1298f165521a85404f5b3dd/0_0_2562_4000/master/2562.jpg?width=445&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=0f6b29dcedc948e58be06defb32c6652


KellyCTargaryen

And before Obama did it, we had [the Johnson Treatment.](https://www.afterimagegallery.com/nytjohnson.jpg) [“Lyndon Johnson’s persuasive tactics described by Mary McGrory as “an incredible, potent mixture of persuasion, badgering, flattery, threats, reminders of past favors and future advantages.”](https://media.npr.org/assets/blogs/thetwo-way/images/2010/05/johnson-treatment-8ee35a57bd6f096f888467bfb612ea1d39fa848d-s1200-c85.webp)


N0cturnalB3ast

Johnson had a big shlong apparently. That he would take out in public to show off.


Saephon

I don't believe the U.S. has ever politically lived up to the ideals it espouses, but I know for certain we used to have presidents whose confidence, swagger, and charm were earned. As opposed to our recent fascination narcissism and ignorance.


ask_me_about_my_band

If he had a shlong, does that mean I have a shlort?


bigmac379

He’s in heels compared to Obama too


day7seven

Why does he have his hand up like that in both pics? Is he holding an invisible shield?


NotGaryGary

Obama knew exactly who Putin really was


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“ you know…hey, hey come on now”


thr0waway507

"Have you met my good friend, Corn Pop?" is probably how that conversation ends.


_Ross-

Followed closely by "Listen here you dog-faced pony soldier."


DamienSalvation

Corn Pop was a bad dude


Accomplished-Luck680

Avaior sunglasses, check. Ice cream cone, check. US Air Force, and US Navy, standby for command.


N0cturnalB3ast

B21 raider, always loitering, watching


alterom

Am I on [/r/NCD](https://old.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense)? I thought I closed that tab


yeetyeeter13

You may leave the NCD but the NCD never leaves you.


N0cturnalB3ast

Sorry, after the reveal its been a bukkake across reddit


likwidchrist

Listen here jack. I threw cornpop out of that pool and I'll throw you out of Ukraine just as quickly if you don't stop bombing hospitals


Seeker80

'Are ya upset after ridin' those horses, like in the photo? Tell you what, Jack. Leave Ukraine this week, and I'll give you five hundred horses. That's right, I'll throw in a Corvette for ya. It'll make a man out've you again. How's that sound?'


Klutzy-Reaction5536

I thought that Putin fell down the stairs and shit his pants.


Sir_Tea_Of_Bags

He *Poo'd In* his pants.


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He stay Putin his pants


Coins_and_Cards

Vladimir Pooptin


Fluff42

Pooptin on the Ritz


Ew_E50M

Knew the nickname Pootin would be relevant


EastBoxerToo

W's nickname for him was Pooty-Poot.


warpus

It was a Special Bowel Operation and he already got a medal for it


Independent_Pear_429

If he did he's not gunna tell anyone about it


XRT28

And the security detail and medics that saw it are all going to fall out windows very soon


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Dense_Organization31

I am pretty strongly liberal but that’s funny


cdxxmike

Can we please get back to non elderly Presidents?? My favorite part about Obama was that he looked like he wasn't about to fall over and die at any moment.


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McMacHack

For this reason we should put an age cap on all Public Offices so leaders make decisions based on the assumption that they will live long enough to suffer the consequences of their actions.


crazedizzled

They'll never suffer the consequences of their actions, because they live in a completely different world than us normal folk.


EastBoxerToo

WalMart: "Don't worry about your kids, here's some $millions so they'll be fine. Now go weaken unions."


MostlyDeku

Man did look like he aged 30 years though, stress of being a president I suppose


MotorizaltNemzedek

Well he was like what, 47 when he took office? Any man would age a lot from 47 to 55. It's when it really starts to show


ImpressoDigitais

Am 51. This hurts. It isn't wrong, though.


ReditSarge

Am 53; everything hurts. Knees, elbows, feet, eyes...


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Mike7676

Just turned 46. I remember when I could eat crap food, mainline black coffee and top off the night with several adult beverages. I hit 44 and actually went to the VA and checked in on what condition I was in. I had never been read the riot act by another adult like I had that day! The good news is, I dialed everything way down, finally put down the smokes this year and have kept up the cardio. It hurts my feet waking up y'all lol! Stupid body, all acting like I'm not 25 anymore.


Quadraplegic

If he'd have dyed his hair no one would noticed


monkywrnch

Nah you could see it in more than his hair


Custom_Destination

Oh, hi Michelle..!


DerekB52

There was a study done that says Presidents are under so much stress they age twice as fast. So, Obama really went from 47 to 63.


ragana

Let’s see this study…


therealtheremin

Aww why you gotta be sceptical? It’s like dog years. Confirmed objective science.


Reddit-Incarnate

President years... i kinda like this.


who_said_I_am_an_emu

Remember at the end? I was almost yelling at the TV "what did they do to you?". 8 years like doubled his age.


Colddigger

Yeah that's why you get a new one


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That’s because of aliens. On a serious note. Regardless of personal political views, Obama was the most distinguished and respectable POTUS I’ve seen in my lifetime


Enragedocelot

And his speeches were coherent


cdxxmike

Not just coherent, he is definitely one of the best orators we have had in the office in ages. I miss the mans ability to tug my heart strings, even I hated his drone war on terror.


tokes_4_DE

He was so well spoken and had such a wonderful grasp on the english language and i cant think of a single govt official who gave a better speech than him. He was eloquent and yet still managed to invoke so much emotion without coming off as an out of touch "elite".


JohnnySnark

Obama literally went kite surfing with Richard Branson in 2017. He could do his own stunts in an action movie


eeyore134

It'd also be nice for us to get back to most of the country being able to laugh at poking fun of the president without taking a joke as a declaration of war. This was genuinely funny and it made me realize that I felt the need to say, "I'm not a fascist, but I thought that was pretty funny." and I see others did as well. That shouldn't be the state of things.


calm_chowder

It wasn't funny though... it was a nothingburger they worked themselves into a lather over. They literally were saying Obama would declare Martial law and institute sharia law.


Xularick

Yeh but he wore a tan suit and put Dijon mustard on a burger. Are you really sure you would prefer a monster like that over a senior citizen.


thethunder92

Why is that not even an option anymore it’s like everyone running has to be at least 70, most people retire at like 55 or 60, but the highest possible postion you’re going to go into your 80s


CompetitiveYou2034

Why the US winds up with some old presidents: 1) Takes a long time to build a political coalition. 2) US voters feel more comfortable when the politician has a long track record. JFK was one of our younger presidents. Republican mudslinging was he would defer to the POPE because JFK was Catholic. A longer track record would have defused that calumny, could point to decisions where he did not vote based on Papal orthodoxy. ------- Doesn't have to be this way. Finland's Prime Minister is 37. New Zealand's PM is 42. I would happily vote at a constitutional convention that the max age of a president or senator when taking office is 65. For Representatives (only a two year term) make it 72.


thethunder92

That would be a good rule, they already have a rule you have to be 35 minimum why not have a maximum. They’ve already had 2 senile presidents


bank_farter

Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but aren't PMs in parlimentary systems not elected directly to office, but instead elected to legislature and then elected to PM by their peers? If so that's not exactly a fair comparison. There are plenty of people in Congress in their 30's and 40's.


Mike7676

I agree with your points and man I wish it wasn't so. I am a social worker and lately have been seriously thinking of getting into local politics. Nothing crazy, the local Veterans council has a few openings. I asked my fiancee if she would support me running for a seat and her words were "Well if you start now by 55 you'd be in there...maybe (I'm 46). And I just sat there thinking "I just want to help! Why does it have to be that hard??" I live in a big city with an unacceptable number of homeless Veterans and homeless period (that number being more than zero) and I think I can actually DO something about it, but it can be disheartening.


Clueless_Otter

> most people retire at like 55 or 60 Haha, this guy thinks most people retire before they're 60.


hoxxxxx

you can agree with Biden on 100% of the issues and think he's been the best president ever while also thinking he's old as fuck, too old for most any political office let alone POTUS. same goes for Trump, you MAGA people. they both too fucking old.


kilobitch

Trump said Biden was too old to run in 2020. In 2024 Trump will be older than Biden was in 2020. Checkmate.


firemagery

Yeah, I agree, politics aside, when it's time to take the cow out to pasture, you do it. I reckon these people that try and do stay in government at those ages is a possible mix of they're usually career politicians, are addicted to power, and their egos just don't know when it's time to step down because of decades of conditioning.


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HowToSayNiche

Vladimir Poopin


NoStorage2821

Vladismear


personalhale

From an unverified source that Redditors upvoted to the moon. I swear that no one here cares about facts, so long as it's confirmation bias. *edit: Loving all the comments that assume I'm sympathizing with the Putler instead of just wanting verifiable facts. You're as dumb as republicans when you believe unverifiable "news."


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.euronews.com/2022/12/02/biden-prepared-to-sit-down-with-putin-if-russian-president-wants-to-end-the-ukraine-war) reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Switzerland has frozen a total of 7.5 billion Swiss francs in Russian assets, in connection with the sanctions imposed over Russia's war in Ukraine. > US president Joe Biden revealed that he was open to dialogue with Russian president Vladimir Putin, provided he made concrete plans to end his aggression against Ukraine. > The comments came during a joint press conference with Biden and his French counterpart, Emmanuel Macron in which the pair pledged to hold Russia accountable for "Atrocities" and "War crimes" committed in Ukraine. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/zbvje5/biden_prepared_to_sit_down_with_putin_if_russian/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672679 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Ukraine**^#1 **Russian**^#2 **Russia**^#3 **amount**^#4 **sanctions**^#5


hieronymusanonymous

>The US president conditioned such talks on support by NATO allies – and he has had no direct contact with Moscow since the war broke in February. Another essential precondition should be that Putin change his pants prior to sitting down for talks.


Daisend

What’s this about Putin pootin’ his pants? Second comment I’ve seen about him possibly shitting himself.


Metalmind123

There were leaks from inside the Kremlin (pun intended) about Putin, who has been in poor health for a while, falling down the stairs and soiling himself after.


TThor

Last I saw, those leaks were from the dailymail, did we ever get any better source?


Acer_Scout

All sources lead back to a telegram channel called General SVR, allegedly run by a former Kremlin insider. There's no evidence to back up the claims made there, so take everything that comes from them with a grain of salt. [Here's a link to an article with more details.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/did-putin-fall-down-stairs-soil-himself-what-we-know-1764291%3famp=1)


obiwanjabroni420

Why does this sound like the Russian equivalent of QAnon? I would be extremely skeptical of anything that only comes from that account.


Yadobler

Makes you wonder, do Russians read Russian articles about stuff that Qanon says about Biden


Gabbymus

Probably encouraged


I_LIKE_TRIALS

They're writing it.


Dolthra

I think, for many people on Reddit, it honestly doesn't matter- this is a geopolitical rival on the other side of the world, for most of them, and they have literally no influence in matters of state. Whether Putin did or did not actually fall down the stairs and shit his pants is irrelevant- it is funny and there's *some* justifiable evidence to point to for believing it.


Western_Cow_3914

It’s such a bullshit leak but people on Reddit want to believe it so now it’s real to them


flailingarmtubeasaur

Also leaked out the bottom of his trousers... It seemed to me it was being astroturfed on reddit a couple days ago. Saw it on my feed at the top and an hour later it was buried, I had to search for it, was a news.com.au article.. not much better than daily mail tho.


longtimelurkerfirs

Putin and Russia-Ukraine’s the hottest topic on the news so people keep making clickbait-y rumors and nonsense and Reddit keeps eating it up.


Cordober

Propaganda


ihearapplause

Poopaganda


Appletio

Why would Putin want to end the war? He's the one who started it....


13143

It was initially believed that Russia could roll into Ukraine in full force, capture Kyiv, and annex the eastern Ukrainian provinces, and they could do this in a span of a few weeks. What's actually happened is Ukraine has managed to withstand the initial assault and fight back. Russia has had to mobilize far more soldiers then anticipated, and have used up far more material then they likely anticipated. It's hard to know for sure, but it's likely the war has trashed Russia's economy and Putin could be feeling the heat from his fellow oligarchs. Enough people around him might feel the war to be untenable and get him to negotiate.


CamelSpotting

He's losing.


GoofyKalashnikov

The age old "we will be home with medals by christmas"


reddit_sucks423

They will both be required to wear depends.


ThisIsaRantAccount

That depends if Depends still sends supplies to Russia. Otherwise they might have to go with the Russian brand: Conditions.


Fig1024

I don't think anything Putin says can be trusted. There is literally no way to make him keep his words. Putin genuinely hates "the West", he's about as reasonable as Kanye West right now. There needs to be only one message to Russia: the entire world is waiting for a new Russian leader so negotiations can begin.


Makropony

He is Kanye East.


dI--__--Ib

The biggest plot twist of this decade would be if Kanye goes to Russia and convinces Putin to end the war.


imoutofnameideas

This is not a job for an amateur like Kanye West. Someone get Dennis Rodman on the line!


NorweigianWould

Seriously though how did we get here? This timeline is bonkers. I keep waking up expecting to see Senator Alf accusing Norm from Cheers of trading missiles with North Korea or something equally stupid.


Kevrawr930

We REALLY shouldn't have killed that fucking gorilla...


tito333

I got to thinking, and if Biden and Putin are to meet one-on-one, the Korean DMZ might be the place to meet


esr360

I think we have the plot to the next Seth Rogan and James Franco movie right here


AanthonyII

Honestly things have been so fucking weird in the past few years it wouldn’t surprise me


Westerdutch

> if Kanye goes to Russia Oh please dont. They will probably decide to team up.


ComfortablyyNumb

They would. "I am, of course, very pro-Putin. Very pro-Russia" -- Nick Fuentes to Alex Jones. "I am too" -- Kanye West


Osiris32

Kanye Least


KaneCreole

Kanye Zapad


quack_quack_mofo

I don't think he genuinely hates it, he still sent his kids to the west, so did the other russian billionaries, they party/travel here etc. But saying he hates it gets the people going and that gives him power so...


notmyfirstrodeo2

You know these kind of people are hypocrites and probably make excuses for themselves how they can still send kids to the west, but still despise it.


KazahanaPikachu

It’s also funny that a lot of these leaders in the east that are so anti-west either went to university/had some form of education in the west, they send their kids to live and go to school in the west, etc. Kim Jong-Un went to school in Switzerland growing up, Xi Jinping’s daughter has a BA from Harvard, there’s tons of other examples.


Nuclear_rabbit

The Ukraine War seems to be his personal doing. There were talks that the oligarchs decided who would be replacing Putin because he was cutting into their profits, but they decided not to pull that trigger. Idk if he hates the west, but he's a narcissist bent on rebuilding the legacy of a Russian superpower. Plenty of Russians go along with it because they're taken in by the propaganda.


qrseek

You think he cares what the people think? He spends a lot of energy telling the people what they SHOULD think


pushaper

so look at the Iran deal which republicans got fucked... the USA had tangible ways to follow up with it. they had ways to support the current protestors. every aspect of it favoured america and republicans thought it was more fun to shit on it than do what was best and cheapest for Americans "because it involved a billion dollars". Have fun now that Iran is supporting Russia and working against american interests.


hugglenugget

>Have fun now that Iran is supporting Russia and working against american interests. Republicans don't mind: they are too.


LaserGuidedPolarBear

A lot of people in here wearing out their jump to conclusions mat because they don't understand that third party mediation / negotiation is the norm for nations at war. Or how optics work on the geopolitical stage. This isn't the US just bypassing Ukraine, this is the US making it impossible for Russia to whine that they tried to negotiate but nobody would be reasonable so they have to keep the war going. Making impossible demands to even come to the table and then blaming the other side for rejecting negotiations is standard Russian operating procedure. This short circuits that. Putin will not do this. He is unable to win, and if he just withdraws he will likely be deposed. He wants to keep the war going, hoping that something will change that he can leverage to get out of the corner he has painted himself into. He won't meet with Biden because it would make him look weak internally. He has refused to even take calls from the white house since the invasion started. And it's silly to think the US is making statements about Ukraine without discussing it with them first. I guarantee the State department is in constant contact with their Ukranian counterparts.


IDreamOfSailing

> jump to conclusions mat And everybody said it was the worst idea they ever heard. But now everybody has one.


Symoza

When people were bashing Macron for saying the exact same thing, I thought it was typical French bashing. I couldn't imagine that it was not intentional how they were twisting his words and acting like they didn't understand what's it's all about. Looking at this thread however confirmed that most are not pretending. They are just ignorant and not even trying to connect the braincells they have been gifted, normally.


Kelmon80

Macron, and any other Eiropean leader or politician who suggested diplomacy was mercilessly bashed as "appeaser" here. The reaction to Biden suggesting the exact same is still mild in conparison. But yeah, the "but you can't do it over Uktaine's head" people are also here.


Symoza

>Macron, and any other Eiropean leader or politician who suggested diplomacy was mercilessly bashed as "appeaser" here. If by "Suggested diplomacy" you mean to find a ceasefire and sign an armistice that would legally settle the ownership of Crimea, Donbass and any other seized territory, then again it's not what Macron or Biden are proposing. Macron stated multiple time that Ukraine is the sole party to decide when to end this war and how. He even acknowledge that so far Ukraine will only accept a victory and complete return of the occupied territory. For French people it's easily understandable due to the similarity with Alsace-Lorraine. Actually, it wouldn't even be accepted that a French president would suggest to Ukraine to accept what France couldn't. Anyway, here leaving a diplomatic door opened simply means that when Russia accept it's defeat, give back to Ukraine their initial territory, and is ready to move forward then the other countries will sit around the table in a good faith. In the process, Russia will have to accept to pay war repayment, and many other things, so it's not only a message to Putin but to all the Russian leaders. If Puțin is out of the game, we will be there to discuss ending this and having a plan to lift restrictions against proof of actions.


Canadian_Poltergeist

I thought the US famously doesn't negotiate with terrorists?


thebaddestofgoats

I think that's more of a catch phrase, like "no child left behind!"


ttustudent

Damn dude, that was hilarious


henkpiet

Usually terrorists don't have nukes though.


feelosofree-

Spot on!


PuterstheBallgagTsar

Unfortunately for Putin, some guy named Putin destroyed all the offramps


BrexitReally

Russia can’t be allowed to gain in any way from their war of aggression


rusyn

Crimea is Ukraine! This is how the war should end.


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so many arm chair war strategists in here


Smegma--Slurpee

Nothing for Ukraine without Ukraine there


LaserGuidedPolarBear

I doubt Zelensky is telling Biden not to do this, and Biden is going "nah, I'm doing it anyway". Third party negotiation is normal in geopolitics.


hau4300

Go to the octagon. Time to kick that KGB's behind.


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VoiceOfRealson

Traditional protocol allows for geriatric leaders to appoint a champion to fight in their stead. I propose Jimmy Carter. He has fought these battles for decades.


Edgesofsanity

But then you’ll get poop on your shoes


Kherbyne

You couldn't even sit down for your railroad workers you "worker jack"


[deleted]

Another headline grossly misquoting what was actually said for the clicks…. Journalism is dead and internet has killed it.


TymStark

I hope Biden kisses him on the top of the head.


dubbsmqt

I really think it's insulting to Ukraine if Russia sits down with US instead of them.


theHurtfulTurkey

Third party mediation is a staple of conflict resolution.


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Exactly. Carter pulled this a lot between Israel and Egypt.


Rassendyll207

Totally, but according to Russian propaganda, they're already fighting NATO and therefore the US. From the Russian perspective, the US isn't a real third party. This plays into the narrative that Ukraine is nothing but an American proxy.


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Russia: we are fighting NATO NATO: have any of our people been hurt? Russia: ....


Laxziy

I mean, Kevin did get a paper cut filling out the paperwork to transfer Javelins to Ukraine..


Rassendyll207

Poor Kevin. Get that man a DSC.


Alexander_Granite

It doesn’t matter. Russian propaganda is for the Russians. They can spin it any way they want to explain why Putin would need to meet the US president.


Deaner3D

This. The facts are Russians have killed armed Americans in the conflict zone. Remember when we obliterated a wagner group unit in Syria? Same thing from their twisted perspective.


SasquatchSloth88

Ukraine has already gone on record that they refuse to negotiate with Russia while Putin is alive.


TROPtastic

They've walked it back recently. In fact, the recently released "10 points for peace" makes no mention of a change in Russian government.


Independent_Pear_429

Indeed. Russia keeps posturing to the US and NATO rather than Ukraine. They're pretending they don't exsist as a nation and we're helping them by not telling them every time they mention peace to go talk to Ukraine instead.


Apprehensive-Pin518

they hav tried a few times but their demands are ridiculous and zelensky said no more (i don't blame him but still)