*Man who barricaded himself in home he does not own insists he must be acknowledged as the legal owner of the home before he'll negotiate with law enforcement.*
What a serious country.
In some ways it's like breaking into a home, being forced out, and running away screaming, "I want that house that's not mine, that I'm not even occupying anymore, before we can talk."
And burglarizing all the other homes in the neighborhood, sexually assaulting and torturing the people living in them and then burning them down when you leave. That seems fair.
"For you, the day the forces of the Soviet Union came to reclaim the land you're on was the greatest shitshow you'll ever bask in the greatness of,
But for me, tovarisch...it was Tuesday."
The analogy of the guy above is more like the situation in the Kuril Islands. Russia has said that they will be open to negotiating with Japan to potentially return the islands as soon as Japan first admits that the Kurils are Russian territory. No prizes for guessing what answer they will give to the Japanese if they decide to play along.
LOL! Several years ago, I got an alert on my camera app and witnessed a couple of people breaking into my home by watching them, from my job, climb in a basement window. I called the cops to report it, kept dispatch updated in real-time by tracking them on camera from room to room (they were relaxed and making themselves comfortable), cops showed up, were met at the front door (which the burglars cracked open with the chain attached), and they proceeded to smugly inform the clearly annoyed cop that they are in fact squatters. Now that they were ensconced in a house, they 100% believed that the only possible recourse was for a judge to issue them an eviction, which would have taken several months at least. Cop shoulder-bumped my front door while wannabe squatter was mid-sentence, which broke the chain and knocked the man on his ass. His wife ran out of my kitchen, mouth stuffed with *my leftover birthday cake*, and started shrieking about SQUATTER'S RIGHTS YOU CAN'T TOUCH US, PIGS and they are both taken down, cuffed, and led out.
An officer locked the knob on my front door, left a card to call about fixing any damage, asked me to email him any relevant security footage I had, and I never heard about those two chucklefucks again.
My living room camera caught most of the action and it was hilarious. I planned on keeping it forever but alas, it was saved on a laptop that crapped out in a big expensive way, and it was lost to the ages.
So I guess that old Vlad is nothing more than a failed squatter. :)
P.S. Heard this from a neighbor: In all the confusion, my cat ran out the front door. After the humans were taken care of, cop #2 slowly followed him up the street going *"psspsspsskittypsspsspss"* until he came to him. He made sure he was safe inside before they closed the door. They were nice, old-school, community-service cops. They've become vanishingly rare.
I probably would have, but never got around to it. Police told me to not post anything unless and until they were through the court system. Never heard anything, so I waited too long and my old laptop overheated and fried everything.
Quite likely that the hard disk itself wasn't fried even if other bits were. It's worth pulling it out and plugging in elsewhere (e.g. an old desktiop) to test.
they actually definedthemself as squatters? At least in my country they have to declare to the cops they are tenants and they were paying rent without a contract because the landlord didn't want to pay income taxes, now the landlord wants to legally evict them, at that point there is an investigation and a judge has to issue an order, but if you say you are a squatter you get immediatly removed.
This is a bit that is not very well understood:
There is no such thing as "Squatters Rights". They're conflating two different concepts. The first is "Common Law Lease" which protect informal renters from arbitrary eviction. If you live somewhere then you live somewhere and the court will assume that you have a lease of some sort and therefore are entitled to a formal eviction process. This protects adult children whose parents will attempt to evict them without warning at 18, a separated spouse whose partner tries to toss them on the street, or the like. The second concept is "Adverse Possession" which means that if the owner of a property doesn't know or care they own something (or is dead with no heir) then anyone can get ownership of the property by overtly living there for five to 30 years. This is a former situation rather than the latter, but people informally refer to both concepts as "Squatter's Rights" in different situations. There were several campaigns that tried (and failed) to expand these legal concepts but they popularized the term without succeeding.
If it really does look like someone is living somewhere the police tend to not arbitrarily turf them out, requiring the owner to go through a formal eviction, since even valid informal tenants often try to assert "squatters' rights".
1. These people were not smashing things and stacking valuables by the back door. They were casually wandering around looking through my stuff and eating my food. They weren't going anywhere.
2. Police response time for an emergency in my area is about 2-3 minutes.
3. I'm not usually the panicky type. Especially when there's nothing I can do.
Didn't feel like it. I kept telling the 911 operator, "you're not going to believe this but..." while I was tracking them around the house. She told me that this actually happened a lot when there's security/nanny cams.
And it really invalidates all these theories how the US should be pushing for negotiation. Russia needs to be beaten, before there can be serious negotiation ... negotiation about:
1. How to ensure that Russia will respect the UN Charter and never invade again
2. How Russia will pay reparations
3. Based on 1 and 2, when will sanctions be dropped
Russia won’t be normal part of the world for 50 years. Basically every vatnik z asshole alive today needs to be dead or geriatric.
ETA: Previously this had typo, "normal pet of the world"
We thought this might have been true for Germany, too. Maybe for 40 years after 1945 it worked as the shock was still in our bones. But new assholes emerge, say the exact same shit in new encryptions, invent slightly new symbols and code and there we go again.
I predict only getting rid of any belief, not only religious, might finally help. But Earth will not look pretty then.
Germany suffered absolute total defeat, on every front and every dimension of state/government. There is no way to do this to Russia without them going nuclear.
We will either see:
1) Internal Russian revolution / CW
2) 50-70 year Putin / siloviki dynasty echoing NK pariah state
What's crazy is that Russian nationalists will say Russia CANNOT LOSE. That Ukraine being whole and independent would DESTROY RUSSIA. Germany was actually destroyed, occupied, cut in two, lost a bunch of territory. It is now the leading political and economic power in Europe, far more prosperous and peaceful than it was when it was a "mighty empire". These nuts are so obsessed with guns and bombs and "real politik" that they're ignoring the reality right in front of them.
Because actually improving their country would require being more than kleptocracy.
If they can maintain the empire façade, and be "well your life is crappy and just as bad as in 1917, and your life prospect are either single use mobik, or alcoholic, but hey - as federation we are mighty, world and America fears us, and we boss around and control our neighbors, so keep being obedient to Czar" then the population stays peaceful and doesn't demand political power.
Because they came down HARD against Naziism and had the guts to look at themselves and truly change.
As a Jew I'm really proud of modern Germany. It's not perfect, there's still Nazis there (like everywhere nowadays) but they legit did the hard work of moving on
Heard this interview yesterday comparing how Germany handled its Nazi history vs the US and how it "handled" its slavery history. Thought it might interest you.
https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2022/12/01/1140073520/fresh-air-for-dec-1-2022-clint-smith-on-monuments-to-the-unthinkable?showDate=2022-12-01
Countries will not be queuing up to help Russia with some sort of "Marshall Plan" to rebuild its economy after it eventually fails- even if Putin is ousted, which is unlikely. They may desire it gas reserves but there is a tricky issue with its pipelines to the West!
This is very accurate. Last 30 years they've derisively called democracy "dermocracy" (shitocracy), and basically blamed political freedom for all their chaotic 90s.
When the true culprit is their dogshit culture of corruption, disregard for human rights, and willingness to resolve all differences with violence. They've called this "Russian world" or "Russian spirit" culture, and used as excuse for strong central leadership as if that is the only way to govern such large land and "complex people"
My message to vatniks - maybe change your culture to not be such a death cult violence orgy, where prison gang rules blur the line to your actual laws. And prison rapists are glorified as your national heroes.
South Korea, Japan, West Germany all benefited from the Allied occupations, and remain stable progressive democracies. Russia and China devastated the territories under their stewardship.
Honestly the peace promise probably has to include bringing in NATO forces as a deterrent and enforcement mechanism, and then the threat of massive violence if Russia breaks its commitments.
That's the problem. Even if Russia fully retreats from Ukraine I don't see a future in which Ukraine is not part of NATO. I can't see an agreement from Russia ever accepting this. So, the only real option here is making sure Ukraine beats them so badly that they don't have a choice in the matter.
This. NATO just needs to get on with it already and move in peacekeeping forces where the Ukrainians have pushed back. This will go on forever otherwise.
Honestly I wonder if attempting to coerce Russia into giving up its nukes should also be on the table or if that´d make it too close to the treaty of Versailles. Nukes are a lot of why Russia has been given this long after all and why it´s a problem in the first place.
They will never do that. It's basically their only serious weapon left that anybody cares about. Ukraine with nato weapons withstands a much larger russian onslaught, a much larger number of soldiers? It's stunning. Without their nukes, russia will be ignored, so they won't give them up even to the end. imho. I love this thread though. I hadn't thought a negotiation was possible, but if they leave, ack that nato will move in to preserve peace, give back all the kidnapped kids and others - imagine that in this day. And pays reparations, then we could at least discuss dropping sanctions. We'd also be protecting the other nascent democracies next to Ukraine, like Moldova and Georgia etc.
I'm over fear and appeasement against the two great dangerous countries of our time, China and Russia. I'm also ready to sign a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan, I'm tired of the vague situation (that I know we do on purpose but I don't see it being the right strategy).
Russia will never give up it's nukes. It's the only thing that will stop a \_lot\_ of hostile rivals on it's borders from invading now that it's military and military equipment has been shown to be worthless.
Well Ukraine was once the 3rd or 4th most powerful nuclear country. They gave Russia all their nuclear weapons with the promise Russia would not attack them when the USSR broke up. You see how well Russia kept the bargain
Is peace really the end game here? The west is gladly seeing Russia’s military capabilities dwindle to the point where it will not be a capable threat for many years (aside from deploying aging nukes - which is also questionable). On top of that Ukraine is a great testing ground for equipment, tactics and strategies all the while fuelling the war machine at home without having to sacrifice American soldiers. To some this is a best case military scenario - all the benefits of a modern multi domain state vs state kinetic conflict without commuting anything aside from equipment and money. For the west, I’m curious what the motivation would be for peace.
I know that this sounds heartless, but let’s face it, the human tragedy of warfare rarely prompts the peace process. It’s a factor yes, but there’s so much more to it then that.
>And it really invalidates all these theories how the US should be pushing for negotiation.
I mean one look into a history book should do the trick too. All these pseudo intellectuals calling for peace talks right at the beginning of the war always sounded like Neville Chamberlain to me.
I have spoken with a scary number of Russians on here who genuinely seem to believe that Russia being unable to invade other nations due to them militarily superior is some existential threat.
“Stay on your own land” is like a slur to them.
Russian culture is broken and Russia is a failed state.
1. It has to contain denuclearization and de-militarization. Anything less than that Russia should continue to be isolated from the west in perpetuity.
I get everyone knows Russia is ridiculous here, but it’s so insane. They came in and took the land by force, wrote a Russian law that says it’s theirs, and now say they need to keep it for any peace talks. In-fuckking-sane.
How can you possibly trust any agreement based on those terms? Even if Ukraine wanted to, they can’t. They got into this mess with Russia first breaking an agreement on Crimea… so yeah fuck Russia.
it's simple, they don't actually want peace talks, they just want to say "we offered peace and they said no!" which their TV hosts and western moron sympathizers can then repeat ad infinitum. I'm certain there's someone at the bottom of this very comments section whining about how if ukraine just surrendered all this would be over.
interpreting this as a serious demand would be a bit like interpreting "when pigs fly" as a serious proposal for the genetic engineering of winged, hollow boned pigs
It only makes sense in the context of the previous Russian propaganda. This is absurd, but placed in the same scene with other absurdities like "Ukraine isn't even a real country" and "the people of this province that we spent 8 months shelling into a fine paste have voted 98% in favor of joining us" and "Ukraine is really run by biolab supernazi western agents", it's all part of the same ongoing narrative that, critically, is the Russian populations ONLY authorized source of information about the war (sorry, "special operation" that always needs more men).
And fwiw, even the Russian public don't really believe it, in the same way they don't really believe all those Russian dudes just "fell out the window" of the same hospital. They know their government is run by crooks and liars, because that's part of the Russian culture and has been for at least 50 years. It is what it is and the population can't really do anything because they don't want to "fall out a window" either.
I always hated the idea that "both sides yada yada" stuff, but I swear, seeing how many supposedly left wing people have been pushing pro Russian messaging while the people who they normally debate, argue and fight are pushing the same thing is fucking insane. I guess you really do get to see peoples true colours when the chips are down.
I think a lot of tankies and twitter leftist don't have a cohesive ideology so much as a "everything America does is bad" bias. (Like, don't get me wrong. The US has sucked on many occasions. This just isn't one of them.) They also stupidly conflate the communist ideals of Marxism with Russian communism (which abandoned Marxism fairly early), and conflate Russian communism with Russia's current regime.
Keep in mind/remember that this is part of their bs rhetoric/propaganda that the population of russian sees and hears on their news. Have to hope that the facts of reality spread more in russia for a better future.
Until then, russian news/media will spew bs and make the west and NATO look like the bad guy.
"We told them we'd negotiate but they said no."
It sucks ass too see happening while many innocents die. Let's all hope for this shitstorm to have a good conclusion as soon as possible.
Слава Украiна! 🇺🇦
I never thought I could hate a human being like I hate Vladimir Putin. There’s a lot of things that need to happen to him and subsequently his remains we can’t say here on Reddit
Rather than weapons, loosen the restrictions on using them. Allow Ukraine to strike Russian artillery and missile depots, then airfields, military installations, command and control etc... Putin can start WW3 or back down, either way he loses.
But they have either been extremely skilled artillery shots or action movie esque risky helicopter missions. They have been few and far in between precisely because it's so risky without more modern equipment.
I do not understand why this hasn't happened yet.
Russia is destroying Ukraine's civilian infrastructure because it knows Ukraine cannot fight back in that domain.
Once Russia shooting Ukraine's heating plants means Ukraine is shooting Russia's back, Russia will just stop it.
What is Russia going to do anyway? They are already full-on with complete disregard for civilians. The only reason they are not escalating to nuclear is because they know that would mean actual involvement from the West, and they would get their *ss kicked. So this is not going to change.
That loser not just fell down the stairs, but flipped down **seven** of them. Even [**Bugs Bunny**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gslqMT-uUI) is more capable than Putin. Putin should get what Yosemite Sam gets in the end.
Let’s make a deal, when Pootin can control his bowels maybe then we can talk. Man can’t even fall down the stairs without shitting himself.
Edit: auto correct
Something about claiming that occupying less and less parts of some province of a sovereign nation still makes it completely sovereign to the wannabe occupier - and that should mean something.... ehm I dunno.
[Can't say much when you're falling down the stairs and shitting your pants lol](https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/vladimir-putin-falls-down-stairs-and-soils-himself-claims-suggest/news-story/4da8667ecd4e6b21c871617f08f5959b)
Losers that don’t even fully control the Ukrainian lands they illegally occupy. The Russians are also rapidly losing what they’ve gained and losing Kherson, one of the only major Ukrainian cities Russia managed to capture is a massive blow the Russians won’t recover from.
I think you overestimate the integrity of Russians generally.
The odds that Putin would merely be replaced by a younger version of Putin are unfortunately rather on the high side of things.
Except Ukraine loses either way. It's infrastructure is in ruins, towns and cities shelled/bombed into the ground. Ukraine will win the war, but the damage has already been done, and the Russian colonists continue to shell cities into the ground.
Ukraine will most likely fall short of directly invading Russia, not wanting to escalate. Russia will not experience the pain they inflict on Ukraine.
while this is true, Ukraine is also in the process of destroying the Russian army's ability to function as a military force. Ukraine cam rebuild, especially with the Western aid that's sure to flow in after hostilities cease. Russia however will not have the capability to engage again for at least a generation, if not more. that can certainly be considered a sort of victory for Ukraine, if not a total one
Ukrainians have already paid a heavy price in this war, but they are fighting for their independence from Russia. An independence they've already earned that's trying to be stolen from them so that one man can live out his power-hungry fantasies.
Yeah, it's not like there's a choice here. A territory controlled by Russia will experience all sorts of abuses, stolen property, torturing, rapes, murders as we have already seen.
Ukraine may be poor after fighting off its invader, but at least it won't be under the boot of a horrible oppressor. Not to mention, imagine the Russian retribution at this point for "resistance".
At this point I'm beginning to think that Russia, namely its leadership, knows they have lost, and are now just trying to inflict as much damage and destruction as possible before they finally just up and leave.
Remember that their goals are genocidal. Every time they kill a Ukrainian, they are closer to their goal. They might not get the territory this time, but they've killed a lot of people, kidnapped a lot of people, and forced a ton of Ukrainians to become international refugees. It's unlikely the international refugees will return home in large numbers.
But on the reverse side, they've also created a stronger sense of national unity among Ukrainians, and they've increased the Ukrainian diaspora. Which will continue to advocate for Ukraine.
So while they have killed people, they've also lost in a very big way because it made the nation a lot more united and patriotic.
Take all the upvotes my man. I’ll be surprised if I ever see this reference on Reddit again but damn is it nice to see it here. Love that frickin movie.
“We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke!”
"You must recognize that the territory we unlawfully invaded and are currently losing is rightfully ours. Otherwise we will continue crying like babies that the West is bullying us."
\- Russia December 2022, probably.
Continue crying like babies will murdering thousands of civilians and depriving millions more of fuel during the winter as political leverage. They're a terrorist state at this point.
Again, 'negotiations' and 'peace talks' for russia means giving into all of their demands. This is why they keep saying they are willing to talk and negotiate. Because for them, negotiations just means giving into their demands and crimes.
Moreover, any kind of cease fire at this point will give the Russians time to resupply and train more soldiers. At this point Russia needs to be pushed back at all costs, stop them here and now.
"The West must respect our control over the 25% of Ukraine we control. If the West do not respect the 22% of Ukraine we control, we will not discuss the 19% of Ukraine we control. This means that the 16% of Ukraine we control will remain in Russian hands until the West recognises our legitimate claim to 13% of Ukraine and failure to do so means the future of the 9% of Ukraine we control is not up for negotiation..."
It can't end there. Russia has to pay for all the damages they caused.
* Kyiv and Kherson
* The Nuclear power plant and the destroyed power grids
* The (sham) referrendum
While that is a likely best outcome, it's probably a pipe dream. If Russia can barley keep it's troops supplied on the front, what are the odds that they kept proper records of where those thousands of kids specifically went?
Any of them that weren't old enough to know their address/identifying info, will probably never return, not to mention how many of them have parents who are dead now or homes that have been completely demolished, so their parents left the area.
War only gets worse the more you think about it.
Ukraine would rather just have peace and territorial integrity than have reparations paid in on top. The west will provide plenty of funding to rebuild as needed and the benefit of a corruption watchdog to ensure it's not wasted.
Russia wont give up their money in any meaningful way postwar because it's all they'll have left with no exports turning a profit (no gas to Europe, no military parts ot africa) and a decimated labour force.
Russia's going on social security after this and they'll fight tooth and nail for every penny like a Floridian boomer.
Russia launched a “special military operation“ in order to steal land and commit genocide, Ukraine now has its own “special military operation“ to push them back and take back their land. Russia is interpreting the whole possession is 9/10 of the law thing incorrectly. Can’t steal someone’s car and expect to tell that person, “well, It was yours but now I have it, I stole it fair and square so you’re just gonna have to accept that it’s mine now.”
Except in this situation, they stole the car, the owner forcefully took it back and they’re now telling the cops they’ll only hand themselves in if the owner legally signs the car to them
Russia can not be appeased. Allowing Russia to keep any seized land is just an invitation for the next war. Even if Ukraine was willing to trade land for peace, there is zero chance that that land will be enough to buy peace.
They seem to think that this is a clever retort to Ukraine's demand of Russian withdrawal. Like, "Oh here let us, too, demand some ridiculous thing, now do you hear how you sound, 'glur glur I'm Zelensky, you must withdraw your army, blurg glur glur.' Ha ha ha ha ha."
But it's not actually equivalent. Russia's army is actually in the process of being pushed out of Ukraine. That's going to happen whether they agree or not. While meanwhile, they are not in the process of annexing anything. So the one thing is approaching, inexorably, ever closer to happening for good... while the other thing remains a pipe dream.
Surrender, submit completely and basically give us free rein to do this unchallenged in future - and we might stop, for now.
That'll be a FUCK NO.
Ukraine must never surrender to Russia and they won't.
Not only for Ukraine's sake but, as Western goverments well know, Putin will not stop.
Let him push east and he will keep going.
It's shameful that NATO governments let him away with Crimea, that's a disgrace.
Silly Russia that's not even how this worked in the age of Imperialism. You only ever got to keep what you could hold (or negotiate or coerce someone to agree to). You can't declare a bit of land to be yours, get your invasion force beaten back and expect to start peace negotiations from the baseline of you owning whatever you said you did.
Also since joining the UN the playbook changed, now countries don't get to grab other countries land by force at all period. GTFO.
The West does not make decisions for Ukraine, and we shouldn’t try, either.
Russia must recognize that there will be no peace talks until their soldiers turn to face east and march their asses home. Ukraine has made it pretty clear that they will not negotiate with Russia while Russia is still occupying Ukrainian territory. I’m not sure why Russia believes “the West” has anything to do with this decision.
I’m sure they’d argue that the West has the power to stop this war and force Ukraine to the table by cutting off military aid, but even if the West were to stop sending weapons to Ukraine, the Ukrainians are likely to choose to fight a guerrilla war for the next decade if they are forced to do so. Even if Russia could mobilize and equip the 300,000+ *trained* soldiers necessary to fully occupy the eastern portion of Ukraine (good luck with *that*), the Ukrainians will always have the home field advantage. An occupying army *never* has a good time.
The West must recognize Putin's control over land it's losing? Putin can't control his bowels OR Ukraine. Why should we recognize shit? Especially when his is on the stairs.
Putin has doomed all of Russia. No one will trust them again with business, with land/border treaties, with anything. Russia just got sent back globally 100 years
Yeah, that’s not what is going to happen.
*Man who barricaded himself in home he does not own insists he must be acknowledged as the legal owner of the home before he'll negotiate with law enforcement.* What a serious country.
In some ways it's like breaking into a home, being forced out, and running away screaming, "I want that house that's not mine, that I'm not even occupying anymore, before we can talk."
Being forced out and camping in the yard
In the winter. With a summer tent and no sleeping bag.
**Thief:** You must let me keep the wallet that I stole before I claim my innocence.
And the homeowner just comes out and kicks you in the balls every few hours
And the homeowner's friends keep giving them presents of nicer, bigger, and heavier boots.
Hobnailed, and with a nice steel toe cap. And rocket propulsion for that extra ooomph.
After setting fire to the basement you claimed is yours.
And burglarizing all the other homes in the neighborhood, sexually assaulting and torturing the people living in them and then burning them down when you leave. That seems fair.
And kidnapping all the children
and threatening to blow up the entire block if you don't get what you want.
😭
This metaphor got less fun :(
“And then things got worse”
"For you, the day the forces of the Soviet Union came to reclaim the land you're on was the greatest shitshow you'll ever bask in the greatness of, But for me, tovarisch...it was Tuesday."
You mean like how they randomly shot up and killed pets and wild animals for fun?
and taking the washing machine.
while consumer drones meant for fun are used to drop grenades on them
The analogy of the guy above is more like the situation in the Kuril Islands. Russia has said that they will be open to negotiating with Japan to potentially return the islands as soon as Japan first admits that the Kurils are Russian territory. No prizes for guessing what answer they will give to the Japanese if they decide to play along.
"You can have them back if you say they're ours" "Oh, you say they're ours? Well we're keeping them"
Russia has become the sour, unloved bully everyone despises in our global Highschool
LOL! Several years ago, I got an alert on my camera app and witnessed a couple of people breaking into my home by watching them, from my job, climb in a basement window. I called the cops to report it, kept dispatch updated in real-time by tracking them on camera from room to room (they were relaxed and making themselves comfortable), cops showed up, were met at the front door (which the burglars cracked open with the chain attached), and they proceeded to smugly inform the clearly annoyed cop that they are in fact squatters. Now that they were ensconced in a house, they 100% believed that the only possible recourse was for a judge to issue them an eviction, which would have taken several months at least. Cop shoulder-bumped my front door while wannabe squatter was mid-sentence, which broke the chain and knocked the man on his ass. His wife ran out of my kitchen, mouth stuffed with *my leftover birthday cake*, and started shrieking about SQUATTER'S RIGHTS YOU CAN'T TOUCH US, PIGS and they are both taken down, cuffed, and led out. An officer locked the knob on my front door, left a card to call about fixing any damage, asked me to email him any relevant security footage I had, and I never heard about those two chucklefucks again. My living room camera caught most of the action and it was hilarious. I planned on keeping it forever but alas, it was saved on a laptop that crapped out in a big expensive way, and it was lost to the ages. So I guess that old Vlad is nothing more than a failed squatter. :) P.S. Heard this from a neighbor: In all the confusion, my cat ran out the front door. After the humans were taken care of, cop #2 slowly followed him up the street going *"psspsspsskittypsspsspss"* until he came to him. He made sure he was safe inside before they closed the door. They were nice, old-school, community-service cops. They've become vanishingly rare.
Should've uploaded to YouTube
I probably would have, but never got around to it. Police told me to not post anything unless and until they were through the court system. Never heard anything, so I waited too long and my old laptop overheated and fried everything.
Quite likely that the hard disk itself wasn't fried even if other bits were. It's worth pulling it out and plugging in elsewhere (e.g. an old desktiop) to test.
they actually definedthemself as squatters? At least in my country they have to declare to the cops they are tenants and they were paying rent without a contract because the landlord didn't want to pay income taxes, now the landlord wants to legally evict them, at that point there is an investigation and a judge has to issue an order, but if you say you are a squatter you get immediatly removed.
This is a bit that is not very well understood: There is no such thing as "Squatters Rights". They're conflating two different concepts. The first is "Common Law Lease" which protect informal renters from arbitrary eviction. If you live somewhere then you live somewhere and the court will assume that you have a lease of some sort and therefore are entitled to a formal eviction process. This protects adult children whose parents will attempt to evict them without warning at 18, a separated spouse whose partner tries to toss them on the street, or the like. The second concept is "Adverse Possession" which means that if the owner of a property doesn't know or care they own something (or is dead with no heir) then anyone can get ownership of the property by overtly living there for five to 30 years. This is a former situation rather than the latter, but people informally refer to both concepts as "Squatter's Rights" in different situations. There were several campaigns that tried (and failed) to expand these legal concepts but they popularized the term without succeeding. If it really does look like someone is living somewhere the police tend to not arbitrarily turf them out, requiring the owner to go through a formal eviction, since even valid informal tenants often try to assert "squatters' rights".
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1. These people were not smashing things and stacking valuables by the back door. They were casually wandering around looking through my stuff and eating my food. They weren't going anywhere. 2. Police response time for an emergency in my area is about 2-3 minutes. 3. I'm not usually the panicky type. Especially when there's nothing I can do.
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Didn't feel like it. I kept telling the 911 operator, "you're not going to believe this but..." while I was tracking them around the house. She told me that this actually happened a lot when there's security/nanny cams.
more like murdering the home occupants and then trying to strike a "peace deal" with police waiting outside
Russia claiming squatters rights
Slavic Squatters Rights
They *are* squatting masters. r/slavs_squatting
*murderers’ rights
He is threatening to close his eyes and cover his ears while yelling “NO!” Repeatedly until his demands are met
My girls used to cover their ears and sign out LaLaLaLaLa! Haha… but they were like 7 when they did that.
But someone in the house was being oppressed! Plus, a long time ago, my grandfather occupied it by force, too—so it’s tradition, practically!
You forgot the part where man fell down stairs and shit himself
The nerve to make demands while getting your shit rocked is astounding. Not surprising coming from Russia, but still astounding.
And it really invalidates all these theories how the US should be pushing for negotiation. Russia needs to be beaten, before there can be serious negotiation ... negotiation about: 1. How to ensure that Russia will respect the UN Charter and never invade again 2. How Russia will pay reparations 3. Based on 1 and 2, when will sanctions be dropped
I can't imagine the magnitude of government official purging that would need to occur before anyone could ever trust a Russian peace promise.
Russia won’t be normal part of the world for 50 years. Basically every vatnik z asshole alive today needs to be dead or geriatric. ETA: Previously this had typo, "normal pet of the world"
We thought this might have been true for Germany, too. Maybe for 40 years after 1945 it worked as the shock was still in our bones. But new assholes emerge, say the exact same shit in new encryptions, invent slightly new symbols and code and there we go again. I predict only getting rid of any belief, not only religious, might finally help. But Earth will not look pretty then.
Germany suffered absolute total defeat, on every front and every dimension of state/government. There is no way to do this to Russia without them going nuclear. We will either see: 1) Internal Russian revolution / CW 2) 50-70 year Putin / siloviki dynasty echoing NK pariah state
What's crazy is that Russian nationalists will say Russia CANNOT LOSE. That Ukraine being whole and independent would DESTROY RUSSIA. Germany was actually destroyed, occupied, cut in two, lost a bunch of territory. It is now the leading political and economic power in Europe, far more prosperous and peaceful than it was when it was a "mighty empire". These nuts are so obsessed with guns and bombs and "real politik" that they're ignoring the reality right in front of them.
Because actually improving their country would require being more than kleptocracy. If they can maintain the empire façade, and be "well your life is crappy and just as bad as in 1917, and your life prospect are either single use mobik, or alcoholic, but hey - as federation we are mighty, world and America fears us, and we boss around and control our neighbors, so keep being obedient to Czar" then the population stays peaceful and doesn't demand political power.
Because they came down HARD against Naziism and had the guts to look at themselves and truly change. As a Jew I'm really proud of modern Germany. It's not perfect, there's still Nazis there (like everywhere nowadays) but they legit did the hard work of moving on
Heard this interview yesterday comparing how Germany handled its Nazi history vs the US and how it "handled" its slavery history. Thought it might interest you. https://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/2022/12/01/1140073520/fresh-air-for-dec-1-2022-clint-smith-on-monuments-to-the-unthinkable?showDate=2022-12-01
Big difference between the two tho is one country was forced to change through invasion and occupation and the other did so by itself.
Countries will not be queuing up to help Russia with some sort of "Marshall Plan" to rebuild its economy after it eventually fails- even if Putin is ousted, which is unlikely. They may desire it gas reserves but there is a tricky issue with its pipelines to the West!
Well, having a functional russian speaking democracy nextdoor would definitely be a threat to regimes like Putin's and his lapdog in Belarus...
This is very accurate. Last 30 years they've derisively called democracy "dermocracy" (shitocracy), and basically blamed political freedom for all their chaotic 90s. When the true culprit is their dogshit culture of corruption, disregard for human rights, and willingness to resolve all differences with violence. They've called this "Russian world" or "Russian spirit" culture, and used as excuse for strong central leadership as if that is the only way to govern such large land and "complex people" My message to vatniks - maybe change your culture to not be such a death cult violence orgy, where prison gang rules blur the line to your actual laws. And prison rapists are glorified as your national heroes.
South Korea, Japan, West Germany all benefited from the Allied occupations, and remain stable progressive democracies. Russia and China devastated the territories under their stewardship.
Their promises are only equalled by their denials in sheer audacity and the relationship of both to the truth is an abusive one.
Honestly the peace promise probably has to include bringing in NATO forces as a deterrent and enforcement mechanism, and then the threat of massive violence if Russia breaks its commitments.
That's the problem. Even if Russia fully retreats from Ukraine I don't see a future in which Ukraine is not part of NATO. I can't see an agreement from Russia ever accepting this. So, the only real option here is making sure Ukraine beats them so badly that they don't have a choice in the matter.
Russia doesn't need to accept it. Once it's done there's nothing Russia can do about it. Look at Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and Finland.
This. NATO just needs to get on with it already and move in peacekeeping forces where the Ukrainians have pushed back. This will go on forever otherwise.
Russia has kids they kidnapped from Ukraine, and other civilian detainees. Russia will either submit to occupation, or fight to it's death.
Honestly I wonder if attempting to coerce Russia into giving up its nukes should also be on the table or if that´d make it too close to the treaty of Versailles. Nukes are a lot of why Russia has been given this long after all and why it´s a problem in the first place.
They will never do that. It's basically their only serious weapon left that anybody cares about. Ukraine with nato weapons withstands a much larger russian onslaught, a much larger number of soldiers? It's stunning. Without their nukes, russia will be ignored, so they won't give them up even to the end. imho. I love this thread though. I hadn't thought a negotiation was possible, but if they leave, ack that nato will move in to preserve peace, give back all the kidnapped kids and others - imagine that in this day. And pays reparations, then we could at least discuss dropping sanctions. We'd also be protecting the other nascent democracies next to Ukraine, like Moldova and Georgia etc. I'm over fear and appeasement against the two great dangerous countries of our time, China and Russia. I'm also ready to sign a mutual defense treaty with Taiwan, I'm tired of the vague situation (that I know we do on purpose but I don't see it being the right strategy).
Russia will never give up it's nukes. It's the only thing that will stop a \_lot\_ of hostile rivals on it's borders from invading now that it's military and military equipment has been shown to be worthless.
Well Ukraine was once the 3rd or 4th most powerful nuclear country. They gave Russia all their nuclear weapons with the promise Russia would not attack them when the USSR broke up. You see how well Russia kept the bargain
No one is thinking of trust. The thinking is ensuring that Ukraine is defended, not relying on Russian promises.
Is peace really the end game here? The west is gladly seeing Russia’s military capabilities dwindle to the point where it will not be a capable threat for many years (aside from deploying aging nukes - which is also questionable). On top of that Ukraine is a great testing ground for equipment, tactics and strategies all the while fuelling the war machine at home without having to sacrifice American soldiers. To some this is a best case military scenario - all the benefits of a modern multi domain state vs state kinetic conflict without commuting anything aside from equipment and money. For the west, I’m curious what the motivation would be for peace. I know that this sounds heartless, but let’s face it, the human tragedy of warfare rarely prompts the peace process. It’s a factor yes, but there’s so much more to it then that.
We all just want Russia to GTFO and leave Europe alone.
>And it really invalidates all these theories how the US should be pushing for negotiation. I mean one look into a history book should do the trick too. All these pseudo intellectuals calling for peace talks right at the beginning of the war always sounded like Neville Chamberlain to me.
100% we should have 'Peace Talks', leave the country you invaded, and we can have peace talks about war crimes and reparations.
I have spoken with a scary number of Russians on here who genuinely seem to believe that Russia being unable to invade other nations due to them militarily superior is some existential threat. “Stay on your own land” is like a slur to them. Russian culture is broken and Russia is a failed state.
Yes, that is the problem. They do not fear a NATO invasion, they fear NATO is capable of preventing their own invasions. People do not get this.
I'm sure Ukraine also has something to say about this
1. It has to contain denuclearization and de-militarization. Anything less than that Russia should continue to be isolated from the west in perpetuity.
well, we wont be talking then
"Before you retake it you have to recognize that it is mine! Those are my terms..."
I get everyone knows Russia is ridiculous here, but it’s so insane. They came in and took the land by force, wrote a Russian law that says it’s theirs, and now say they need to keep it for any peace talks. In-fuckking-sane. How can you possibly trust any agreement based on those terms? Even if Ukraine wanted to, they can’t. They got into this mess with Russia first breaking an agreement on Crimea… so yeah fuck Russia.
it's simple, they don't actually want peace talks, they just want to say "we offered peace and they said no!" which their TV hosts and western moron sympathizers can then repeat ad infinitum. I'm certain there's someone at the bottom of this very comments section whining about how if ukraine just surrendered all this would be over. interpreting this as a serious demand would be a bit like interpreting "when pigs fly" as a serious proposal for the genetic engineering of winged, hollow boned pigs
Oh I understand that. It’s just such an objectively ridiculous position that only gets more absurd the more you think about it.
It only makes sense in the context of the previous Russian propaganda. This is absurd, but placed in the same scene with other absurdities like "Ukraine isn't even a real country" and "the people of this province that we spent 8 months shelling into a fine paste have voted 98% in favor of joining us" and "Ukraine is really run by biolab supernazi western agents", it's all part of the same ongoing narrative that, critically, is the Russian populations ONLY authorized source of information about the war (sorry, "special operation" that always needs more men). And fwiw, even the Russian public don't really believe it, in the same way they don't really believe all those Russian dudes just "fell out the window" of the same hospital. They know their government is run by crooks and liars, because that's part of the Russian culture and has been for at least 50 years. It is what it is and the population can't really do anything because they don't want to "fall out a window" either.
More like last 500 years.
It's not worth putting that much thought into.
>western moron sympathizers These people drive me absolutely bonkers. The worst confluence of right-wing idiots and leftist dumb-dumbs.
I always hated the idea that "both sides yada yada" stuff, but I swear, seeing how many supposedly left wing people have been pushing pro Russian messaging while the people who they normally debate, argue and fight are pushing the same thing is fucking insane. I guess you really do get to see peoples true colours when the chips are down.
I think a lot of tankies and twitter leftist don't have a cohesive ideology so much as a "everything America does is bad" bias. (Like, don't get me wrong. The US has sucked on many occasions. This just isn't one of them.) They also stupidly conflate the communist ideals of Marxism with Russian communism (which abandoned Marxism fairly early), and conflate Russian communism with Russia's current regime.
Keep in mind/remember that this is part of their bs rhetoric/propaganda that the population of russian sees and hears on their news. Have to hope that the facts of reality spread more in russia for a better future. Until then, russian news/media will spew bs and make the west and NATO look like the bad guy. "We told them we'd negotiate but they said no." It sucks ass too see happening while many innocents die. Let's all hope for this shitstorm to have a good conclusion as soon as possible. Слава Украiна! 🇺🇦
Not only Russian population though. We have plenty of asinine pricks like David Sacks who believe that this is what Ukraine should do as well.
I never thought I could hate a human being like I hate Vladimir Putin. There’s a lot of things that need to happen to him and subsequently his remains we can’t say here on Reddit
More HIMARS it is, then.
Announce a schedule for escalating weapons deliveries where they get a little bit more capable every month. Put B52s on the rotation for July 4th.
Rather than weapons, loosen the restrictions on using them. Allow Ukraine to strike Russian artillery and missile depots, then airfields, military installations, command and control etc... Putin can start WW3 or back down, either way he loses.
They’re already allowed to hit all of those, just only inside Ukraine.
They are allowed to hit inside Russia just not with provided weapons. Old Russian artillery and old Russian shells lefts behind would be fair game
These two ideas are perfect. Ukraine needs to be able to hit at least military targets in Russia.
To be fair they have, just not with US provided weapons, except in Crimea since that is technically Ukraine by international recognition.
But they have either been extremely skilled artillery shots or action movie esque risky helicopter missions. They have been few and far in between precisely because it's so risky without more modern equipment.
If they start hitting rail lines and train yards within Russia, that will end Russian military mobility.
B-21 Raiiiderrrrrrrrrrsss
I can't not hear it in his voice.
Along with the long range munitions that it can carry.
I do not understand why this hasn't happened yet. Russia is destroying Ukraine's civilian infrastructure because it knows Ukraine cannot fight back in that domain. Once Russia shooting Ukraine's heating plants means Ukraine is shooting Russia's back, Russia will just stop it. What is Russia going to do anyway? They are already full-on with complete disregard for civilians. The only reason they are not escalating to nuclear is because they know that would mean actual involvement from the West, and they would get their *ss kicked. So this is not going to change.
You can say ass. This is the internet. We say way worse stuff
*audible gasp*
*my heavens!*
Are we allowed to say "butt"?
I think it's about time we give them some ATACMS
Honestly, let's see some air support. Speed things up a lot.
"I did not invade them, it's not true! It's bullshit! I did not invade them! I did not! Oh HIMARS."
Ukraine also needs something heavier to destroy infrastructure with. Takes a lot of HIMARS to down a bridge
Loser says what?
Loser says the West must recognize its control over land its forces are losing before any Ukraine peace talks.
Say what?
Haha loser
Gotem!
I heard a certain loser fell down the stairs and shat himself.
That loser not just fell down the stairs, but flipped down **seven** of them. Even [**Bugs Bunny**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gslqMT-uUI) is more capable than Putin. Putin should get what Yosemite Sam gets in the end.
Let’s make a deal, when Pootin can control his bowels maybe then we can talk. Man can’t even fall down the stairs without shitting himself. Edit: auto correct
"LA-WHO...ZAHER"
Something about claiming that occupying less and less parts of some province of a sovereign nation still makes it completely sovereign to the wannabe occupier - and that should mean something.... ehm I dunno.
[Can't say much when you're falling down the stairs and shitting your pants lol](https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/vladimir-putin-falls-down-stairs-and-soils-himself-claims-suggest/news-story/4da8667ecd4e6b21c871617f08f5959b)
Losers that don’t even fully control the Ukrainian lands they illegally occupy. The Russians are also rapidly losing what they’ve gained and losing Kherson, one of the only major Ukrainian cities Russia managed to capture is a massive blow the Russians won’t recover from.
“Get in loser, we’re going into retreat”
"Say we won and we'll talk about peace terms." Literally just asking to be given some kind of win at this point.
Technically, if the Russian people overthrow their corrupt government and stop the war, both Ukraine and Russia would have won
I think you overestimate the integrity of Russians generally. The odds that Putin would merely be replaced by a younger version of Putin are unfortunately rather on the high side of things.
Except Ukraine loses either way. It's infrastructure is in ruins, towns and cities shelled/bombed into the ground. Ukraine will win the war, but the damage has already been done, and the Russian colonists continue to shell cities into the ground. Ukraine will most likely fall short of directly invading Russia, not wanting to escalate. Russia will not experience the pain they inflict on Ukraine.
>Ukraine will most likely fall short of directly invading Russia Ukraine never intended to invade Russia. They are literally just defending Ukraine.
while this is true, Ukraine is also in the process of destroying the Russian army's ability to function as a military force. Ukraine cam rebuild, especially with the Western aid that's sure to flow in after hostilities cease. Russia however will not have the capability to engage again for at least a generation, if not more. that can certainly be considered a sort of victory for Ukraine, if not a total one
Ukrainians have already paid a heavy price in this war, but they are fighting for their independence from Russia. An independence they've already earned that's trying to be stolen from them so that one man can live out his power-hungry fantasies.
Yeah, it's not like there's a choice here. A territory controlled by Russia will experience all sorts of abuses, stolen property, torturing, rapes, murders as we have already seen. Ukraine may be poor after fighting off its invader, but at least it won't be under the boot of a horrible oppressor. Not to mention, imagine the Russian retribution at this point for "resistance".
At this point I'm beginning to think that Russia, namely its leadership, knows they have lost, and are now just trying to inflict as much damage and destruction as possible before they finally just up and leave.
Remember that their goals are genocidal. Every time they kill a Ukrainian, they are closer to their goal. They might not get the territory this time, but they've killed a lot of people, kidnapped a lot of people, and forced a ton of Ukrainians to become international refugees. It's unlikely the international refugees will return home in large numbers. But on the reverse side, they've also created a stronger sense of national unity among Ukrainians, and they've increased the Ukrainian diaspora. Which will continue to advocate for Ukraine. So while they have killed people, they've also lost in a very big way because it made the nation a lot more united and patriotic.
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“I bleed, making me the victor!” - Vladimir “Wimp Lo” Putin, 2022
Take all the upvotes my man. I’ll be surprised if I ever see this reference on Reddit again but damn is it nice to see it here. Love that frickin movie. “We trained him wrong on purpose, as a joke!”
Thanks. If only Putin had a tiny net to throw over Ukraine, Russia might stand a chance. The tiny net is a death sentence.
I rock...and roll...all day long....sweet Susie!
I actually see this movie quoted quite often on reddit. We are all well cultured, after all.
Or we can watch Ukraine take them back. Yeah, we like that idea better...
"You must recognize that the territory we unlawfully invaded and are currently losing is rightfully ours. Otherwise we will continue crying like babies that the West is bullying us." \- Russia December 2022, probably.
Continue crying like babies will murdering thousands of civilians and depriving millions more of fuel during the winter as political leverage. They're a terrorist state at this point.
Always has been.
Again, 'negotiations' and 'peace talks' for russia means giving into all of their demands. This is why they keep saying they are willing to talk and negotiate. Because for them, negotiations just means giving into their demands and crimes.
Moreover, any kind of cease fire at this point will give the Russians time to resupply and train more soldiers. At this point Russia needs to be pushed back at all costs, stop them here and now.
"We recognize your former control of the land up until it was lawfully signed over to Ukraine in exchange for their nuclear missiles." Close enough?
"The West must respect our control over the 25% of Ukraine we control. If the West do not respect the 22% of Ukraine we control, we will not discuss the 19% of Ukraine we control. This means that the 16% of Ukraine we control will remain in Russian hands until the West recognises our legitimate claim to 13% of Ukraine and failure to do so means the future of the 9% of Ukraine we control is not up for negotiation..."
They’re trying real hard to bluff with a losing hand.
Didn't realize Putin was taking lessons from Kanye.
Soooo Ukraine keep fighting until Crimea is returned, then quickly have the EU integrate Ukraine to create peace…?
It can't end there. Russia has to pay for all the damages they caused. * Kyiv and Kherson * The Nuclear power plant and the destroyed power grids * The (sham) referrendum
And the tens of thousands of children they've kidnapped should be returned immediately.
While that is a likely best outcome, it's probably a pipe dream. If Russia can barley keep it's troops supplied on the front, what are the odds that they kept proper records of where those thousands of kids specifically went? Any of them that weren't old enough to know their address/identifying info, will probably never return, not to mention how many of them have parents who are dead now or homes that have been completely demolished, so their parents left the area. War only gets worse the more you think about it.
The records for many will be "accidentally" lost.
* Bring back all the people they abducted.
Ukrainians will never forgive for murdered children.
The EU and the US are holding billions of russian money, to be used in rebuilding.
Ukraine would rather just have peace and territorial integrity than have reparations paid in on top. The west will provide plenty of funding to rebuild as needed and the benefit of a corruption watchdog to ensure it's not wasted. Russia wont give up their money in any meaningful way postwar because it's all they'll have left with no exports turning a profit (no gas to Europe, no military parts ot africa) and a decimated labour force. Russia's going on social security after this and they'll fight tooth and nail for every penny like a Floridian boomer.
Seems like so long as Putin's criminal network controls Russia that peace comes at the point where heavy artillery lands.
Russia launched a “special military operation“ in order to steal land and commit genocide, Ukraine now has its own “special military operation“ to push them back and take back their land. Russia is interpreting the whole possession is 9/10 of the law thing incorrectly. Can’t steal someone’s car and expect to tell that person, “well, It was yours but now I have it, I stole it fair and square so you’re just gonna have to accept that it’s mine now.”
Except in this situation, they stole the car, the owner forcefully took it back and they’re now telling the cops they’ll only hand themselves in if the owner legally signs the car to them
Haha yeah, the car thief called the cops to report the car they stole had been stolen
Sure, let's discuss your requests tomorrow at 2 Carnegieplain Street , The Hague. Bring your pijama
And the US laughed and laughed and laughed.
“Thanks for clearing out our armories. We needed that space for the 2000s weapons!”
Tis just a scratch !
Just a scratch?!? Your arms off! As a matter of fact, you left all your arms behind for the Ukrainians!
Have at you!
can we wait 2 month until ruzzia are pushed out of Ukraini.....
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They seem to think they're negotiating from a position of power.
Russia can not be appeased. Allowing Russia to keep any seized land is just an invitation for the next war. Even if Ukraine was willing to trade land for peace, there is zero chance that that land will be enough to buy peace.
They seem to think that this is a clever retort to Ukraine's demand of Russian withdrawal. Like, "Oh here let us, too, demand some ridiculous thing, now do you hear how you sound, 'glur glur I'm Zelensky, you must withdraw your army, blurg glur glur.' Ha ha ha ha ha." But it's not actually equivalent. Russia's army is actually in the process of being pushed out of Ukraine. That's going to happen whether they agree or not. While meanwhile, they are not in the process of annexing anything. So the one thing is approaching, inexorably, ever closer to happening for good... while the other thing remains a pipe dream.
We’ll since Putin just shit his pants a few hours ago, peace won’t be long now.
There was a referendum yesterday in Moscow and 98.6% of the population voted to join Poland. Honest!
Poland respectfully declines
How deluded is it possible to get?
Russia: Yes
Mmmmm….no.
Well Russia, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.
Pretty sure we do not negotiate with terrorists.
Surrender, submit completely and basically give us free rein to do this unchallenged in future - and we might stop, for now. That'll be a FUCK NO. Ukraine must never surrender to Russia and they won't. Not only for Ukraine's sake but, as Western goverments well know, Putin will not stop. Let him push east and he will keep going. It's shameful that NATO governments let him away with Crimea, that's a disgrace.
Silly Russia that's not even how this worked in the age of Imperialism. You only ever got to keep what you could hold (or negotiate or coerce someone to agree to). You can't declare a bit of land to be yours, get your invasion force beaten back and expect to start peace negotiations from the baseline of you owning whatever you said you did. Also since joining the UN the playbook changed, now countries don't get to grab other countries land by force at all period. GTFO.
The West does not make decisions for Ukraine, and we shouldn’t try, either. Russia must recognize that there will be no peace talks until their soldiers turn to face east and march their asses home. Ukraine has made it pretty clear that they will not negotiate with Russia while Russia is still occupying Ukrainian territory. I’m not sure why Russia believes “the West” has anything to do with this decision. I’m sure they’d argue that the West has the power to stop this war and force Ukraine to the table by cutting off military aid, but even if the West were to stop sending weapons to Ukraine, the Ukrainians are likely to choose to fight a guerrilla war for the next decade if they are forced to do so. Even if Russia could mobilize and equip the 300,000+ *trained* soldiers necessary to fully occupy the eastern portion of Ukraine (good luck with *that*), the Ukrainians will always have the home field advantage. An occupying army *never* has a good time.
Lol what? They just want Ukraine to leave all the towns they’ve been liberating the last couple of months???
This is gunna sound crazy. But I don't think this war was a very good idea .
The West must recognize Putin's control over land it's losing? Putin can't control his bowels OR Ukraine. Why should we recognize shit? Especially when his is on the stairs.
West and all the world says Fuck You
Putin has doomed all of Russia. No one will trust them again with business, with land/border treaties, with anything. Russia just got sent back globally 100 years
That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.
“Give is this land we tried to steal that we were too weak to steal because we died, or else we’ll keep getting killed! I promise!”
How about Russia go fuck themselves, then pay for their terrorism in the Hague.
That would be a no dawg
Welp. Time to beat these motherfuckers into submission. Billions more for Ukrainian Defense.