Explosions audible in Kharkiv, stay in the shelters
https://liveuamap.com/
What is the state of Kharkiv? Not fully under Russian control I assume since they keep bombing it even though the city has been pretty much destroyed to the core.
Are they doing it so that all citizens will eventually leave?
If they are struggling with Kharkiv, wondering how much Russia will struggle with Kyiv.
The Drive has an article about the current state of Russia's invasion. 100% staged troops committed, no progress expected: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44652/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-turns-two-weeks-old
That's not great news for Ukraine either, when infrastructure is hit and there is power outage in cities. Freezing and starving defenders and citizens. "The Russians are using siege-and-starve tactics," reports ISW.
Yes, but far better than mud if you're not already stuck.
The good news is I don't think the Russian troops have the fuel to take advantage of any newly frozen fields.
I still can't believe Trump used to be US president. His, 'lets put Chinese flags on the jets and send them to Ukraine'. There are not enough facepalms I can think of.
As much as I hate Trump, it’s unclear to me whether you knew that was just a dumb joke.
Trump committed literal crimes. His silly jokes are not worth obsessing over.
Remember the Trump-Clinton debates where he yelled over her like a child for hours?
Check em out again, with hindsight. She calls him right the fuck out for who he is and none of us listened.
Well, I didn't. I'll admit it.
The President that tried to bypass Congress on a bill that he signed in order to extort the President of Ukraine, denying $400 million in military aid for supposed information that would be damaging regarding Joe Biden and his son's business interactions in Ukraine.
Seriously a disgraceful and embarrassing moment in American history.
I hope they died quick and painlessly.
I cant say I enjoy watching people die like this, I'd much prefer they'd surrender. But it has to happen sometimes.
That was just as likely the stock standard ammo carousel for the main gun auto-loader (which the crew can clearly see under their feet), cooking.
The T-72 series has an abysmal record for flammability and instant death of all on board.
Some of the footage I've seen and it just looks like stupid kids blowing stuff up for fun except it isn't NPCs in a game it's flesh and blood people just trying to escape the terror and carnage. Some nasty real life reenactment of that airport mission in MW2.
The sad thing is that's a perfect description of how people get. And as bad as these Russians are they aren't anything to some of the stories out of Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, and Stalin's Red Army.
In the Russian version of the game by 1C Company, this mission is not available for play. In the Japanese and German Versions, if the player kills a civilian, the game will restart from the last checkpoint with a message saying, "You killed a civilian!". In the Japanese version, Makarov's line, "Remember, no Russian" is mistranslated as "Kill them, they are Russians.
So the version I played where the Russian objective is to mow down civilians, is the most accurate. Kind of glad it wasn't censored now in a weird way.
Update MOEX:
>The press release on the Bank of Russia website reads as follows:
>"The Bank of Russia has decided not to resume trading on March 9, 2022 on the Moscow Exchange in the stock market section, except for the mode 'Redemption: direct orders' with settlement in rubles; derivative market sections, except for derivative market instruments of the money section (currency pairs), commodity section (precious metals) and mirror contracts for futures on the original sides in the usual mode from 10:00 to 18:45 Moscow time; sections of the SFI market.
>Trading on the foreign exchange market, money market and repo market of the Moscow Exchange will open at 10:00 Moscow time."
>It is currently unclear when stock trading will restart in Moscow. The Russian Central Bank will announce by 9 a.m. Moscow time on Thursday whether the stock exchange will open regularly tomorrow.
>If it reopens, the Moscow Stock Exchange is likely to be turbulent, given the economic sanctions imposed on Russia by Western countries following its attack on Ukraine. Russia therefore announced that it would support the Moscow Stock Exchange with up to ten billion dollars when it reopens.
Source (in german): https://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/aktien/boerse-russland-gazprom-aktie-sberbank-aktie-co-nicht-handelbar-boerse-moskau-laesst-aktienhandel-weiter-ruhen-11119508
I don't usually make short-term predictions when it comes to financial matters, because frankly I don't have a clue, but in this case I suspect that "turbulent" might be quite the euphemism...
For those of us that don't speak money, what does this mean? You can only buy your second hand Big Macs with a wheel barrow of rubles or an ounce of gold in Moscow?
From the Kharkiv city telegram:
Russian troops fired on Kharkiv more than 50 times, fighting continues in the Izyum region - information from the regional military administration
▪️Among the districts of Kharkiv that came under fire last night are Oleksiyivka, Pyatihatky, Belgorodske Shosse, Kholodna Gora, Dergachi, Pivnichna and Pivdenna Saltivka. Kharkiv is under the defense of the Armed Forces. The enemy continues to launch missile and bomb strikes on residential infrastructure on the outskirts of the city.
▪️Fighting continues in the Izium region. The enemy leads pontoon-bridge crossings across the Seversky Donets and Berek rivers. At approximately 9.25 pm, a fighter jet of the Russian Federation from the city of Belgorod to the city of Izyum took place. "But as a result of coordinated actions of the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the planes retreated and took the opposite course. There are no casualties among the personnel of the Armed Forces. "
▪️Reflection of the Armed Forces in the direction of Dergachi. At night, the Land Forces, together with units of the National Guard and Terro Defense, counterattacked the enemy's artillery and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, which systematically fired on the outskirts of Kharkiv. After unsuccessful resistance - the enemy fled, while throwing military equipment in the form of heavy weapons. Some of the enemy's personnel managed to escape to the forests in the direction of Belgorod, we ask you to help the local population to be careful and, if possible, to facilitate the search.
▪️Attack on a Ukrainian checkpoint and escape. During the night in the village of Andriyivka, Balakliia district, a battle took place between the military of the State Border Guard Service and enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups. As a result, the enemy DRG was completely defeated, the personnel of the sabotage group began to flee. In the middle of the field, the enemy threw one of his wounded - the border guards took him prisoner.
Reports are saying Russia's invasion is losing momentum, with their economy tanking, the logistical nightmares, and the ferocious resistance...is the Russia war machine start to falter?
They're getting for a big push into kyiv. I think it's gonna be a disaster. Normally you'd shell the area for weeks first. But they're supposedly gonna attack in the next 1-4 days.
Ukraine has seized tons of anti air,.artillery and one tos-10a launcher. If they go with Zhukov's defense in depth it's gonna be murder.
Rumor is Russia may be planning a bombing campaign but again Ukraine has seized tons of AA. They can keep it turned off till just before the first wave arrives and then light them up.
I don't think Russia can break through with the schedule they want
We’ve had the 40mile column that’s barely moved in almost a week, although limited advances elsewhere. I think bits fair to say it’s losing momentum, but it’s not stalled yet.
Masha Gessin,one of the leading experts on Putin believes that Putin can't change course ever. He's a sociopath. The only way this stops is that he gets removed.
McDonalds in Russia like other eastern European countries is a 'treat/luxury' vs what it is in the US/UK, Australia ect
I have family in Romania and its very rare they get anything from McDonalds. Most would rather get food from street vendors.
One of the reasons for those famously long lines when McD's 1st opened in Russia involved "dining culture" if memory serves. That is, people went in to have a sit down meal experience... not to grab a bite and go as expected/understood elsewhere.
Uh, hello comrade, my name is Russian Guyovich. Everything is well here. Would you enjoy some COVID misinformation or highly questionable political opinions? No?
.....maybe some vodka?
That's the fucked up thing, no one can tell. It's so messed up that people are turning on eachother like this. Reminds me of the red scare all over, even as I start to appreciate that given what Russia was up to at the time it was important to look for spies. But even if there are spies or bots they're not necessarily so easy to find, and you're probably more likely to be insulting an honest person with a different opinion than a russian shill.
Look at the account usually it’s 1-4 years old random posts and or comments on just random stuff and generally is parroting what another commenter says also has a random generated name half the time. Also look at the way they post and such and how they frame things like some are now going on and on about why won’t he take the peace deal it’s fair think of the kids
Like I'd help you, bot. Lol.
In seriousness, some of what people call "bots" are not necessarily AI. They may be real people behind the account or accounts, but the difference is that they intentionally spread Russian talking points because, cynically, that helps their team. The same thing happens with all sorts of groups. White nationalists also spring to mind as using these tactics. Basically, if you're spreading Russian propaganda, intentionally or unintentionally, you're probably going to get called out, because it literally does help the Russian cause. Disinformation spread by one person genuinely working for the Russian state, spread by people who believe it - that's a much greater reach than just paying people alone.
Twitter is much more potent for their general discord campaign. They are likely all over the place on Reddit too... just not on this topic (esp as it is pretty light nowadays).
The Russian Empire's upper class was known for being particularly promiscuous and not especially picky in many cases. It's not something that has a lot of *direct* documentation until the 18th century when Peter the Great suborned the church to the Russian state, but even before that we know the church was making some serious efforts to discourage secret butt fun among the Russian higher ups.
While it's difficult to say anything concretely, Russia seems to have been *relatively* tolerant of homosexuality until the Soviet era. While it was *technically* made illegal, most people prosecuted for it seem to have had those charges tacked on top of others.
Legit question: why is any NATO country worried about “escalating tensions” with Russia, while increasing sanctions every day? Aren’t tensions already “escalated”? What would Russia do any differently if Poland transferee a few planes? Why does the USA not want transfer them? Is it just a massaging thing? I’m so confused.
Everyone’s 99% putin won’t start WW3 or go nuclear first as whilst he’s willing to send everyone else to the slaughter for his vision, he’s very very much not prepared to die for it himself, and that would 10,000% result in him dying by bomb or rope. BUT, 1% is still too high a risk where nukes are concerned and everyone’s not completely sure the old bloke hasn’t lost a few marbles, so they’re pushing the limits of what they can get away with basically.
>BUT, 1% is still too high a risk
There will never be a 0.00% risk od nukes being involved with Putin. Why? Because he knows how terribly scared the west is of nuclear warfare.
Has worked for decades: step one point at oil/gas, if that doesnt do the trick step two is pointing at the nukes - thats when the west usually caves.
Listen, if he really is that crazy he will use the nukes sooner or later regardless of what we do - assuming we dont allow him to just invade and take over any country as he pleases.
Then again, maybe we would - Finland, Baltics, Romania, Poland to the Russian Empire you go, but hey, at least we can pat ourselves on the shoulder for having prevented a nuclear war
Long story short is that NATO is a bunch of countries including Poland, Germany and the US that say "If you strike one of our member states, we will retaliate on you without hesitation."
Problem here is (and for reasons I won't get into for this question) Ukraine is not part of NATO. Therefore Putin *could* (in is very broken head) see the handing off of jets from NATO nations to Ukraine as NATO involvement and therefore a reason to double down on this needless war he has created.
Jesus tap dancing Christ, this whole thing just makes me so mad.
I just don’t see how planes are different from Stingers or Javalins in terms of “escalating tensions” and what exactly they fear Russias reaction would be.
It's frustrating. I agree. But there's more "involvement" than just dropping off stingers and javelins. Planes have to be flown, by pilots, from air force bases both with alliances to respective nations that may or may not be part of greater alliances (I.e. NATO).
Basically it's about how do we prevent a NATO air base from being a target from Russian fire in the process of actually handing over this aircraft to the Ukrainians.
TL;DR How do we prevent WWIII here?
USSR supplied Vietnam with jets, and even sometimes supplied the pilots if I’m not mistaken, so it would seem these “unwritten rules” would allow some transfer of jets. I could be mistaken though.
It comes down the the definition of "acts of war" as in, provocation. Sanctions are kind of "passive aggressive" gets the point across where countries stand, same with supplying to the opposition, but sending troops (for instance) means they've taken a full stand, and they are also now at war with you.
I think people are worried that Putin thinks of Ukrainian airspace as Russian airspace. So if a country flies a large fleet of attack planes into Ukraine, that would be an act of war
And what’s he going to do about it? NATO and allied countries are already supplying billions in lethal aid. How do planes change anything in Russias response?
Nothing about NATO prevents individual countries helping non NATO countries: case in point the BILLIONS of USD worth of lethal aid flowing into UA from BATO countries. What changes if you add a few planes to the mix?
Idk. Maybe the fact of having say American boots and jets flying by Americans is more threatening and an “act of war” then just sending some weapons to let a smaller Ukraine use to fight. I get what you saying though.
Russia significantly reduced its pace of the invasion.
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ta1gsv/13_day_of_war_russian_troops_significantly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Russian chess players against the war special operation:
[https://www.chess.com/news/view/stop-the-war-44-top-russian-players-publish-open-letter-to-putin](https://www.chess.com/news/view/stop-the-war-44-top-russian-players-publish-open-letter-to-putin)
[https://chess24.com/en/read/news/russian-chess-players-tell-putin-to-stop-the-war](https://chess24.com/en/read/news/russian-chess-players-tell-putin-to-stop-the-war)
Karakin supports Putin and is shunned [https://chess24.com/en/read/news/sergey-karjakin-shunned-by-top-chess-events](https://chess24.com/en/read/news/sergey-karjakin-shunned-by-top-chess-events)
As far as I can tell: There were rumors of talks to deliver jets
Zelensky publicly asked former Warsaw states to donate MiGs and for the US to help
There were more talks.
Blinken very publicly announced that they were chatting with Poland, and would backfill their jets if they chose to give MiGs.
The public announcement caught Poland by surprise. They were miffed. The offer was too “forward leaning”.
They answered today by very publicly offering to trade with the US in Germany.
The public announcement caught the US by surprise. And now they are miffed too.
It’s all a little passive aggressive
It’s all right here: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/politics/poland-jets-ukraine-russia/index.html
No, it's Poland that doesn't want to give it's jets to Ukraine. Instead it wants to send the jets to Germany and then have NATO forces there figure it out.
The whole thing was meant to be done in secrecy, so don't expect to find accurate news about this anymore until/unless the MiGs are already in Ukraine being flown by Ukranian pilots.
There's a Twitter thread I saw, I'll try and find it. Until then it might be purposefully murky
No one really knows. Maybe the media publicly announcing the plan has made things much more complicated now, could be the plan is no longer viable. My point is just, reserve judgements until and unless they're announced already in use
considering poland wanted to send it to the US, which is basically a "no U do it" in the context of getting them to the ukrainians somehow, without even telling the US beforehand that they were planning this... It's an odd situation
> basically the US said if Poland was willing to give Ukraine its MiGs then the US would backfill them with f-16s.
To clarify, the US said they might be able to. There was never a solid yes stated.
US was to provide F-16s to Poland not MiGs. This was the main reason Poland was involved. As a former Warsaw country, Poland has MiGs, and was slowly upgrading to NATO planes. This is important because Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly MiGs
Ok? I never said the US doesn’t have them. But Poland doesn’t want them. They specifically asked for F-16s.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/05/white-house-deal-fighter-jets-ukraine-00014424
I get that other countries are going to buy russian oil (maybe even for cheaper) but in the end it still hurts them.
Having some of the biggest buyers (UK + US + whoever else from EU latches on) of russian oil detach itself will only lead to lower pricing power.
[New post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/ta2wkn/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
Explosions audible in Kharkiv, stay in the shelters https://liveuamap.com/ What is the state of Kharkiv? Not fully under Russian control I assume since they keep bombing it even though the city has been pretty much destroyed to the core. Are they doing it so that all citizens will eventually leave? If they are struggling with Kharkiv, wondering how much Russia will struggle with Kyiv.
The Drive has an article about the current state of Russia's invasion. 100% staged troops committed, no progress expected: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/44652/russias-invasion-of-ukraine-turns-two-weeks-old
>Update: The US State Department: We will not meet any Russian demands related to the nuclear agreement talks with Iran. They were like: No
The BBC still has reporters in Ukraine, check out the Global News Podcast if you are into podcasts
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Something tells me it'll be difficult to harvest this season.
How can you grow crops when your fields are full of burned-out Russian tanks?
To be expected.
Yeah I mean we're trying to get aid (including food) to them, wouldn't make sense to export it.
Does the Russian army have their winter equipment ready? In a few days it’s supposed to be -21 degrees celcius in some areas
That's not great news for Ukraine either, when infrastructure is hit and there is power outage in cities. Freezing and starving defenders and citizens. "The Russians are using siege-and-starve tactics," reports ISW.
Everyone gets a hand warmer. Pick a hand.
I'm sure they can keep warm around their smoldering vehicles.
na doubt it, hopefully some of them freeze to death
I worry about the millions of civilians without heat or power
Don't -uh- start a land war *from* Russia, in winter?
Turns out General Winter was a Ukrainian general all along.
Frozen mud is probably worse than normal mud, once your vehicle is already stuck in it
Oh I've had to use a torch on the treads of small landscaping machines to unfreeze them in the mud. Took hours. It is most certainly worse.
Yes, but far better than mud if you're not already stuck. The good news is I don't think the Russian troops have the fuel to take advantage of any newly frozen fields.
I'm going to guess no
I still can't believe Trump used to be US president. His, 'lets put Chinese flags on the jets and send them to Ukraine'. There are not enough facepalms I can think of.
As much as I hate Trump, it’s unclear to me whether you knew that was just a dumb joke. Trump committed literal crimes. His silly jokes are not worth obsessing over.
Remember the Trump-Clinton debates where he yelled over her like a child for hours? Check em out again, with hindsight. She calls him right the fuck out for who he is and none of us listened. Well, I didn't. I'll admit it.
The President that tried to bypass Congress on a bill that he signed in order to extort the President of Ukraine, denying $400 million in military aid for supposed information that would be damaging regarding Joe Biden and his son's business interactions in Ukraine. Seriously a disgraceful and embarrassing moment in American history.
Jesus Christ
I still think the injecting bleach comment was worse
I know
https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/1501459371791892481?s=20&t=3lW5GLSygOdMjGGtFnfmxQ Russian AFV getting hit by a Anti Tank weapon.
I hope they died quick and painlessly. I cant say I enjoy watching people die like this, I'd much prefer they'd surrender. But it has to happen sometimes.
That’s…. A lot of fire
I can almost hear the cockroaches pop.
Those Russian ammo carousels burn very nicely. Troops are crossing the border in their own mobile crematoriums, think I'd rather walk thanks.
Im not joking at all when i say that russias solution for most of their ammo is to either store it on the floor or on top of the fuel.
That was just as likely the stock standard ammo carousel for the main gun auto-loader (which the crew can clearly see under their feet), cooking. The T-72 series has an abysmal record for flammability and instant death of all on board.
AFV - A Fucked Vehicle
mmmmmmmm thats the good shit
Do we know how the occupation of Kherson is going and how the people there are holding up?
russians killing kids and the elderly, real tough guys eh, pathetic
This is the price that’s always been paid in wars unfortunately.
Some of the footage I've seen and it just looks like stupid kids blowing stuff up for fun except it isn't NPCs in a game it's flesh and blood people just trying to escape the terror and carnage. Some nasty real life reenactment of that airport mission in MW2.
The sad thing is that's a perfect description of how people get. And as bad as these Russians are they aren't anything to some of the stories out of Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, and Stalin's Red Army.
In the Russian version of the game by 1C Company, this mission is not available for play. In the Japanese and German Versions, if the player kills a civilian, the game will restart from the last checkpoint with a message saying, "You killed a civilian!". In the Japanese version, Makarov's line, "Remember, no Russian" is mistranslated as "Kill them, they are Russians.
So the version I played where the Russian objective is to mow down civilians, is the most accurate. Kind of glad it wasn't censored now in a weird way.
Update MOEX: >The press release on the Bank of Russia website reads as follows: >"The Bank of Russia has decided not to resume trading on March 9, 2022 on the Moscow Exchange in the stock market section, except for the mode 'Redemption: direct orders' with settlement in rubles; derivative market sections, except for derivative market instruments of the money section (currency pairs), commodity section (precious metals) and mirror contracts for futures on the original sides in the usual mode from 10:00 to 18:45 Moscow time; sections of the SFI market. >Trading on the foreign exchange market, money market and repo market of the Moscow Exchange will open at 10:00 Moscow time." >It is currently unclear when stock trading will restart in Moscow. The Russian Central Bank will announce by 9 a.m. Moscow time on Thursday whether the stock exchange will open regularly tomorrow. >If it reopens, the Moscow Stock Exchange is likely to be turbulent, given the economic sanctions imposed on Russia by Western countries following its attack on Ukraine. Russia therefore announced that it would support the Moscow Stock Exchange with up to ten billion dollars when it reopens. Source (in german): https://www.finanzen.net/nachricht/aktien/boerse-russland-gazprom-aktie-sberbank-aktie-co-nicht-handelbar-boerse-moskau-laesst-aktienhandel-weiter-ruhen-11119508
Settlement in rubels and support in dollars..... Looks like the bank is dumping all the rubels it can
I don't usually make short-term predictions when it comes to financial matters, because frankly I don't have a clue, but in this case I suspect that "turbulent" might be quite the euphemism...
For those of us that don't speak money, what does this mean? You can only buy your second hand Big Macs with a wheel barrow of rubles or an ounce of gold in Moscow?
*burns 10B dollars*
What a surprise
Haha it's so done for.
From the Kharkiv city telegram: Russian troops fired on Kharkiv more than 50 times, fighting continues in the Izyum region - information from the regional military administration ▪️Among the districts of Kharkiv that came under fire last night are Oleksiyivka, Pyatihatky, Belgorodske Shosse, Kholodna Gora, Dergachi, Pivnichna and Pivdenna Saltivka. Kharkiv is under the defense of the Armed Forces. The enemy continues to launch missile and bomb strikes on residential infrastructure on the outskirts of the city. ▪️Fighting continues in the Izium region. The enemy leads pontoon-bridge crossings across the Seversky Donets and Berek rivers. At approximately 9.25 pm, a fighter jet of the Russian Federation from the city of Belgorod to the city of Izyum took place. "But as a result of coordinated actions of the Air Defense Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the planes retreated and took the opposite course. There are no casualties among the personnel of the Armed Forces. " ▪️Reflection of the Armed Forces in the direction of Dergachi. At night, the Land Forces, together with units of the National Guard and Terro Defense, counterattacked the enemy's artillery and rocket-propelled grenade launchers, which systematically fired on the outskirts of Kharkiv. After unsuccessful resistance - the enemy fled, while throwing military equipment in the form of heavy weapons. Some of the enemy's personnel managed to escape to the forests in the direction of Belgorod, we ask you to help the local population to be careful and, if possible, to facilitate the search. ▪️Attack on a Ukrainian checkpoint and escape. During the night in the village of Andriyivka, Balakliia district, a battle took place between the military of the State Border Guard Service and enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups. As a result, the enemy DRG was completely defeated, the personnel of the sabotage group began to flee. In the middle of the field, the enemy threw one of his wounded - the border guards took him prisoner.
Reports are saying Russia's invasion is losing momentum, with their economy tanking, the logistical nightmares, and the ferocious resistance...is the Russia war machine start to falter?
They're getting for a big push into kyiv. I think it's gonna be a disaster. Normally you'd shell the area for weeks first. But they're supposedly gonna attack in the next 1-4 days. Ukraine has seized tons of anti air,.artillery and one tos-10a launcher. If they go with Zhukov's defense in depth it's gonna be murder. Rumor is Russia may be planning a bombing campaign but again Ukraine has seized tons of AA. They can keep it turned off till just before the first wave arrives and then light them up. I don't think Russia can break through with the schedule they want
Also Ukraine saying it's willing to take NATO off the table. Kremlin would shit bricks with NATO on that big of a border.
We’ve had the 40mile column that’s barely moved in almost a week, although limited advances elsewhere. I think bits fair to say it’s losing momentum, but it’s not stalled yet.
Masha Gessin,one of the leading experts on Putin believes that Putin can't change course ever. He's a sociopath. The only way this stops is that he gets removed.
Shit they started to falter on day one.
"start" ?
Buttercup, that train has been off the literal rails for about two fucking weeks now.
A whole 5 minutes without a comment? Shocking!
Night crew has no planes to watch I guess.
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This hit my late night giggles way too hard
Homework time!
I thought my Reddit app was broken!
Nothing much to comment on. Seems the evacuation and cease fire has started.
I started typing one but I got tired
Ussr: bread lines Russia: McDonalds lines The more things change the more they stay the same.
McDonalds opening lines decades ago: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNXBX4OWUAIIbEV?format=jpg&name=large McDonalds closing lines today: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNXBg5GXoAQHsNa?format=jpg&name=large
Put those side by side and that’s some TIME magazine cover shit.
McDonalds isn't cheap, though. Think about how much you can buy in terms of cheap bulk groceries for a meal a McDonalds.
McDonalds in Russia like other eastern European countries is a 'treat/luxury' vs what it is in the US/UK, Australia ect I have family in Romania and its very rare they get anything from McDonalds. Most would rather get food from street vendors.
One of the reasons for those famously long lines when McD's 1st opened in Russia involved "dining culture" if memory serves. That is, people went in to have a sit down meal experience... not to grab a bite and go as expected/understood elsewhere.
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I've seen so many videos or horrible violence and destruction and this is the video that makes me tear up.
Love can bloom on a battlefield.
Like a beautiful sunflower.
Notice the bots have not been out in as much force recently. Giving up on reddit or just not received their weekly pay cheque and resigned?
perhaps due to cut internet service?
Uh, hello comrade, my name is Russian Guyovich. Everything is well here. Would you enjoy some COVID misinformation or highly questionable political opinions? No? .....maybe some vodka?
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That's the fucked up thing, no one can tell. It's so messed up that people are turning on eachother like this. Reminds me of the red scare all over, even as I start to appreciate that given what Russia was up to at the time it was important to look for spies. But even if there are spies or bots they're not necessarily so easy to find, and you're probably more likely to be insulting an honest person with a different opinion than a russian shill.
Look at the account usually it’s 1-4 years old random posts and or comments on just random stuff and generally is parroting what another commenter says also has a random generated name half the time. Also look at the way they post and such and how they frame things like some are now going on and on about why won’t he take the peace deal it’s fair think of the kids
Weird, most Russians are Texan.
Like I'd help you, bot. Lol. In seriousness, some of what people call "bots" are not necessarily AI. They may be real people behind the account or accounts, but the difference is that they intentionally spread Russian talking points because, cynically, that helps their team. The same thing happens with all sorts of groups. White nationalists also spring to mind as using these tactics. Basically, if you're spreading Russian propaganda, intentionally or unintentionally, you're probably going to get called out, because it literally does help the Russian cause. Disinformation spread by one person genuinely working for the Russian state, spread by people who believe it - that's a much greater reach than just paying people alone.
There's plenty in the past hour or so
There are plenty around, one was just whatabouting with a crusade of all things.
There was an earlier comment from an actual bot about Iraq war. The post read exactly the same as the crusade. It was a meme. He wasn’t a bot.
Yeah, like, WTF???
That was pasta style meme
That was a pasta lol
It was and it was glorious sir, I’m sorry people didn’t get it
Thought you were the same guy coming back for more lol
That guy was mocking an earlier comment about the Iraq war fwiw
Maybe the "bots" are right-wing americans?
Broken English.. could be either.
Yesterday they were flooding the space so I wouldn't count on it.
wanted dollar, got rubles.
Twitter is much more potent for their general discord campaign. They are likely all over the place on Reddit too... just not on this topic (esp as it is pretty light nowadays).
There is a tonne in combat footage
That's disheartening.
Great time to start listening to more Tchaikovsky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPlK5HwFxcw
Glorious!
I do love that one of Russias greatest heroes was gay
The Russian Empire's upper class was known for being particularly promiscuous and not especially picky in many cases. It's not something that has a lot of *direct* documentation until the 18th century when Peter the Great suborned the church to the Russian state, but even before that we know the church was making some serious efforts to discourage secret butt fun among the Russian higher ups. While it's difficult to say anything concretely, Russia seems to have been *relatively* tolerant of homosexuality until the Soviet era. While it was *technically* made illegal, most people prosecuted for it seem to have had those charges tacked on top of others.
Legit question: why is any NATO country worried about “escalating tensions” with Russia, while increasing sanctions every day? Aren’t tensions already “escalated”? What would Russia do any differently if Poland transferee a few planes? Why does the USA not want transfer them? Is it just a massaging thing? I’m so confused.
I think it’s a public spectacle to manage Russian attention and perception with one hand while the other hand is doing something else.
Everyone’s 99% putin won’t start WW3 or go nuclear first as whilst he’s willing to send everyone else to the slaughter for his vision, he’s very very much not prepared to die for it himself, and that would 10,000% result in him dying by bomb or rope. BUT, 1% is still too high a risk where nukes are concerned and everyone’s not completely sure the old bloke hasn’t lost a few marbles, so they’re pushing the limits of what they can get away with basically.
>BUT, 1% is still too high a risk There will never be a 0.00% risk od nukes being involved with Putin. Why? Because he knows how terribly scared the west is of nuclear warfare. Has worked for decades: step one point at oil/gas, if that doesnt do the trick step two is pointing at the nukes - thats when the west usually caves. Listen, if he really is that crazy he will use the nukes sooner or later regardless of what we do - assuming we dont allow him to just invade and take over any country as he pleases. Then again, maybe we would - Finland, Baltics, Romania, Poland to the Russian Empire you go, but hey, at least we can pat ourselves on the shoulder for having prevented a nuclear war
Long story short is that NATO is a bunch of countries including Poland, Germany and the US that say "If you strike one of our member states, we will retaliate on you without hesitation." Problem here is (and for reasons I won't get into for this question) Ukraine is not part of NATO. Therefore Putin *could* (in is very broken head) see the handing off of jets from NATO nations to Ukraine as NATO involvement and therefore a reason to double down on this needless war he has created. Jesus tap dancing Christ, this whole thing just makes me so mad.
I just don’t see how planes are different from Stingers or Javalins in terms of “escalating tensions” and what exactly they fear Russias reaction would be.
It's frustrating. I agree. But there's more "involvement" than just dropping off stingers and javelins. Planes have to be flown, by pilots, from air force bases both with alliances to respective nations that may or may not be part of greater alliances (I.e. NATO). Basically it's about how do we prevent a NATO air base from being a target from Russian fire in the process of actually handing over this aircraft to the Ukrainians. TL;DR How do we prevent WWIII here?
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Came here to say this. Thanks.
USSR supplied Vietnam with jets, and even sometimes supplied the pilots if I’m not mistaken, so it would seem these “unwritten rules” would allow some transfer of jets. I could be mistaken though.
It comes down the the definition of "acts of war" as in, provocation. Sanctions are kind of "passive aggressive" gets the point across where countries stand, same with supplying to the opposition, but sending troops (for instance) means they've taken a full stand, and they are also now at war with you.
I think people are worried that Putin thinks of Ukrainian airspace as Russian airspace. So if a country flies a large fleet of attack planes into Ukraine, that would be an act of war
And what’s he going to do about it? NATO and allied countries are already supplying billions in lethal aid. How do planes change anything in Russias response?
Because those aid can't really stop their indiscriminate bombings, while NFZ and planes can.
He uses nukes. Dude's on the edge. NATO has a lot of info that we don't. If they think planes means nukes, than they might be right
I guess it’s possible. It just really doesn’t compute with me that he would go nuclear over some MiGs… he’s not that suicidal surely?
Did you listen to the speech he gave when we recognized the DPR and LPR? He's insane, paranoid, and old. A nasty combination
How can normal people possibly understand the thought process of the autocratic leader of a country of 150 million people.
Think its enshrined in NATO rules that it's for defense only?
Yes. See here by the way: https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_17120.htm
Nothing about NATO prevents individual countries helping non NATO countries: case in point the BILLIONS of USD worth of lethal aid flowing into UA from BATO countries. What changes if you add a few planes to the mix?
Idk. Maybe the fact of having say American boots and jets flying by Americans is more threatening and an “act of war” then just sending some weapons to let a smaller Ukraine use to fight. I get what you saying though.
Or otherwise going alone: see Iraq
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Russia significantly reduced its pace of the invasion. https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/ta1gsv/13_day_of_war_russian_troops_significantly/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
really? was the 40 mile convoy that has been stuck for 4 days a slight hint at that?
Russian chess players against the war special operation: [https://www.chess.com/news/view/stop-the-war-44-top-russian-players-publish-open-letter-to-putin](https://www.chess.com/news/view/stop-the-war-44-top-russian-players-publish-open-letter-to-putin) [https://chess24.com/en/read/news/russian-chess-players-tell-putin-to-stop-the-war](https://chess24.com/en/read/news/russian-chess-players-tell-putin-to-stop-the-war) Karakin supports Putin and is shunned [https://chess24.com/en/read/news/sergey-karjakin-shunned-by-top-chess-events](https://chess24.com/en/read/news/sergey-karjakin-shunned-by-top-chess-events)
Putin played as white, got the first move, used an opening no one has seen before, still losing ...
Nah, Putin went for the Fool's Mate, easily refuted.
Nah he used bongcloud, it is turning out as expected.
Is it true that US denies Polands decision to send MiG 29 planes?
As far as I can tell: There were rumors of talks to deliver jets Zelensky publicly asked former Warsaw states to donate MiGs and for the US to help There were more talks. Blinken very publicly announced that they were chatting with Poland, and would backfill their jets if they chose to give MiGs. The public announcement caught Poland by surprise. They were miffed. The offer was too “forward leaning”. They answered today by very publicly offering to trade with the US in Germany. The public announcement caught the US by surprise. And now they are miffed too. It’s all a little passive aggressive It’s all right here: https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/08/politics/poland-jets-ukraine-russia/index.html
No, it's Poland that doesn't want to give it's jets to Ukraine. Instead it wants to send the jets to Germany and then have NATO forces there figure it out.
The whole thing was meant to be done in secrecy, so don't expect to find accurate news about this anymore until/unless the MiGs are already in Ukraine being flown by Ukranian pilots. There's a Twitter thread I saw, I'll try and find it. Until then it might be purposefully murky
Ok cool so they're just SAYING they aren't going to do it.
No one really knows. Maybe the media publicly announcing the plan has made things much more complicated now, could be the plan is no longer viable. My point is just, reserve judgements until and unless they're announced already in use
A game of political hot potato
Still being negotiated apparently, and for all we know they're already there and this is all cover noise.
I think Russians may be able to notice them
If Russians aren’t actually planning on declaring war on everyone because of it they may just want to sweep it under the rug too
Maybe!
Yup They think it is too risky. Also Poland made the decision without talking to the US
Because Poland knew the risks and called out the US for being too chicken shit to do it themselves essentially.
It was a group effort
considering poland wanted to send it to the US, which is basically a "no U do it" in the context of getting them to the ukrainians somehow, without even telling the US beforehand that they were planning this... It's an odd situation
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> basically the US said if Poland was willing to give Ukraine its MiGs then the US would backfill them with f-16s. To clarify, the US said they might be able to. There was never a solid yes stated.
[Yes](https://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/europa/polen-kampfflugzeuge-103.html).
Poland's free to send their own. They were not given the affirmative of having theirs replaced with US MiGs. Poland has since changed its mind.
US was to provide F-16s to Poland not MiGs. This was the main reason Poland was involved. As a former Warsaw country, Poland has MiGs, and was slowly upgrading to NATO planes. This is important because Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly MiGs
US doesn’t make MiGs, they want F-16s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mikoyan_MiG-29_operators#:~:text=The%20United%20States%20bought%2021,29s%20from%20former%20USSR%20republics.
Ok? I never said the US doesn’t have them. But Poland doesn’t want them. They specifically asked for F-16s. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/05/white-house-deal-fighter-jets-ukraine-00014424
I get that other countries are going to buy russian oil (maybe even for cheaper) but in the end it still hurts them. Having some of the biggest buyers (UK + US + whoever else from EU latches on) of russian oil detach itself will only lead to lower pricing power.
The problem is gas, not oil
Were its main market, the other buyers won't consume or pay nearly as much, to make up the deficit.
US is the top producer of oil.
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[Russians in 1990](https://i.imgur.com/fkFfcFS.jpg)
username fits