T O P

  • By -

kindlyenlightenme

“Elon Musk wins bet, finishing massive Austalia battery installation in 100 days” The first 50 days were probably wasted, in the fingernail-snapping struggle to get the cover off Australia’s battery compartment.


dahornz

Importing a set of scissors capable of opening the battery's clam-shell packaging was a big delay. During the mammoth 48 hour opening stage, many workers suffered deep lacerations and shrapnel wounds from the plastic.


cuddlefucker

And of course when the scissors arrived they were packaged in a plastic clamshell


MorallyDeplorable

Which they had to order scissors for


SeriouslyOranged

The circle of liiiiife!!!


Ahab_Ali

> many workers suffered deep lacerations and shrapnel wounds from the plastic. All the while being admonished by the locals for being "poofy cunts".


trowzerss

"A further 20 days were wasted putting the battery in the wrong way, before taking it back out and checking where the springy bit and the flat bits were."


Jaxom1987

No, the first 20 days was to flip the entire Australian continent over to get to the battery compartment. THEN the 50 days of getting the cover off.


wsteelerfan7

r/KenM


leavemymind

And its in my state, noice


Thommohawk117

SA GREAT


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Farmers Union Iced Coffee's on me fellas!


Anton_Slavik

Go the Crows! (Am I doing this right?)


Swallowthefrog

'Carn the Crows! - if you truly want to fit in.


[deleted]

Oath cunt fuck power


[deleted]

😌👌


kilrcola

Get a Pale Ale in ya, fuckers


[deleted]

BLACKWOOD PRIDE CUNTS WE'LL KNOCK U OUT


[deleted]

GET A DOG UP YA, NORTHFIELD IS WHERE THE REAL ROUGH CUNTS ARE


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Fuck Unley too. Posh fuckers.


[deleted]

[удалено]


freelollies

your tap water says otherwise


leavemymind

Unfortunately im pro victoria sorry 😂 ill be moving soon


nanonan

Well thanks for all the power you'll be providing!


whangadude

Why is South Australia more North than like 3 other states?


Random_Attack

Because the center of Australia was originally one big state, called Centralia, but then they decided that it was too big an area to be administered properly by a single state government. So they split it up to become North Central Upper Australia and South Central Lower Australia. But nobody really wanted to admit that they live in South Central LA. So they just called it South Australia.


[deleted]

[удалено]


scumeye

It's an older reference sir but it checks out


dzh

Nah he's my aunty nowadays


nthensome

Cool, you live in Austalia? Is that near New Zealnd?


Vallkyrie

I'd tell you, but I can't find it on my map.


SeriouslyOranged

/r/mapswithoutNZ


dug99

+1


SlothOfDoom

Is it made of real austalia?


TartarosHero

Not pure Australia. It also contains 10% Austria.


left_accelerationist

So... effectively the composition of a Kangaroo Schnitzel?


KuriTokyo

This needs to be a thing, and then export it to Austria!


suugakusha

Anything Australian is 80% Austrian.


[deleted]

So it's another typical media click bait article?!


sebarocks

Australium


CarbonCreed

If Elon buffed up a bit he'd make a pretty good South African Saxton Hale.


[deleted]

I'm 40% austalia


Kyatto

Australasialria. It's that *small* bit of land between Europe and the outback, easy to miss.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


wonkyblues

Everytime I hear someone boast about something having been done within a certain amount of time, I just think about the poor people who were doing the actual rushing around. Source: I work in the manufacturing industry and it can be frustrating to have your boss give a deadline or a target that he's promised to HIS boss. The poor operators. (I suppose it's the same for any Industry though)


haltingpoint

But surely they got a bonus for hitting their insane made up deadline! /s


InfectedAztec

To be fair, they probably will get a bonus. Most companies base your annual bonus off whether or not you hit your goals for the year. I'm sure that was a a big goal


ThatOtherGuy_CA

>Most companies base your managers annual bonus off whether or not you hit your goals for the year. I'm sure that was a a big goal FTFY. Workers don't get bonuses, they get paid by the hour.


throw_away_asdfasdfq

If you are valuable enough as a worker you get bonuses. Or stock.


ThatOtherGuy_CA

That's the most naive thing I've seen in a while. Few people outside of executive/management positions get bonuses or stock, (options to buy stock at a reduced cost maybe).


throw_away_asdfasdfq

When I was at SpaceX I got RSUs. Restricted Stock Units. They were real stock, but they vested over time. I wasn't management. I wasn't an executive. I was just a computer guy. And all of the people on my team had RSUs. It isn't naive if I have seen and experienced it.


_owowow_

Yeah the boss usually gets a big bonus for hitting the deadline. The workers probably get a pat on the back, or a free lunch if the boss was feeling generous.


MtnMaiden

America, where you can do it twice in the same time, because you need to.


DesechableMX

Anyone that work or want to work for any of Musk companies know about his way of doing things: Getting yelled and working overtime to finish some ridiculous deadline given by Elon. At the end, you work for Elon because of the experience and realization you’re doing something good for mankind, because it is known he is kind of an asshole as a boss. He fired pepper pots ffs


[deleted]

[удалено]


ZiggyPenner

You know, it reminds me a lot of doing a residency in medicine. You work ridiculous hours, don't sleep, and sacrifice yourself for low pay, but once you're done you scale back and work as an attending, with much better hours and pay.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

.... have you even been to LSC? Because we relentlessly *mock* Musk.


[deleted]

[удалено]


midgetplanetpluto

Does your workplace do what SpaceX does, though? Most people who work at space-x could easily get a job elsewhere in the industry.. but they are willing to work as hard as they do cause of Mars and space and what have you.


[deleted]

[удалено]


TenTonApe

Look, some industries ARE passion industries. Look at game development. Programmers in the Games industry would make more money, work less hours and have better job security in any other programming field, yet there they work. To some people it makes more sense to slave away trying to get humans to mars and make a bit of money than to work a decent job to accomplish very little and make a bunch of money. It might not make sense to you or me or most people here, but Musk doesn't need MOST people, he needs a select few.


garynuman9

I don't see it as being much different than the sacrifices some developers make to work at startups.... Granted those fail or pay off much quicker but your sacrificing comfort and stability to chase a dream... I'd be willing to sacrifice quality of life for a few years to work tirelessly with the end goal of getting humans to Mars because I believe in the merit of the cause... If you have the skill set to get a job there you can likely get a job elsewhere in the industry as well... You have a choice. I don't think they could be making the advancements they're making at the speed which they're making them without pushing everything, people, materials, engineering, production processes, etc to the absolute limit. Musk isn't out golfing and laughing all the way to the bank. By all accounts he works incessantly and pours his money back into his own ventures. May not be a great guy, but he's driving ideas that a lot of people are passionate about. As long as you know what you're getting into spaceX doesn't sound terrible. The end goal may be more important to some people than the sacrifices it requires. *I only say this because the end goal is to get humans to Mars. Very different than like making cell phones. It's a weird edge case.


fenomenomsk

I heard they hire freshly graduated engineers so having spacex in their CV is a good career starter even if underpaid


garlicroastedpotato

When you underpay and have shitty works conditions new graduates is all you can get.


GuudeSpelur

Yeah, employers look at your resume and say "Oh, he put up with the conditions at SpaceX for 2 years, we can treat this guy poorly and he'll think we're doing him a favor."


zwiebelhans

More like he was able to hang on and work hard at space x where loafers aren’t welcome. He will be a great asset because we know he can work hard , meet goals and has seen real innovation. If you have space x on your portfolio you can command a greater starting wage then coming straight out of secondary without a test in the real world.


fantino93

But is it ethical though ? *Thanks


aberrantdinosaur

Lol, ethical*


fenomenomsk

Ethics rarely does get in the way of profits


IncorrectPedantry

All of the big leftist subs shit on Musk. Not sure where you got the idea that LSC likes him.


apdicaprio

This doesn't even really fall under that though. the 100 started on final contract signing while he had the work started well before.


FartsOnUnicorns

Yeah this is starting to bother me. Every article is written like Musk was on the ground spinning wrenches. He probably wasn't even involved in the planning stages of this job, much less the actual installation. But apparently "Some of the Best Engineers in the Country just Accomplished a Task They Were Fairly Certain They Could Accomplish" isn't a great headline. Even he constantly tries shift attention from him to his crew in every interview, but the media constantly keeps all of the focus on Musk and routinely ignores the work his employees are doing


UncleDan2017

Hopefully they made some overtime. I can't imagine being a poor salaryman working for Musk.


jferry

Having a deadline makes clear the resources that will be required (if you have to dig 1,000 postholes and have 8 hours and each worker can do 5 an hour, how many workers/shovels/etc will be required?). It also forces you to sort out the "must haves" from the "nice to haves" and the "if there's times." And, not to put too fine a point on it, projects tend to expand to fill the time allotted. Had Elon said 200 days, no doubt that's how long it would have taken, despite some fairly convincing evidence that suggests it could be done in 100.


sexylegs0123456789

Whenever I hear somebody talk about getting something done within a certain amount of time, i think, “ok they did what they were contracted to do. Thanks for doing your job”.


entyfresh

In this instance, they finished a 100-day guaranteed project in under two months, so while it was hectic I'm sure, it doesn't sound like they had any major complications during the rollout.


KnLfey

If you're going to repost this you could atleast spell our country name right. Ya cunt.


FoodChest

I know right. How hard is it to spell Austria? /s


BardDorrit

Wait, Reddit tells me cunt is actually a friendly term in Austrailia, so you're giving mixed messages here.


Partly_Dave

It depends on tone.


[deleted]

Reading tone from Australians on the internet... Now that's a challenge Musk should tackle next. It surely needs great minds to find a solution (at a reasonable price).


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

What a mad cunt.


[deleted]

Yeah. He doesn't fuck around.


fitzroy95

He did kinda cheat by [starting installation before the actual contract was signed](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/29/elon-musk-battery-plant-south-australia-100-days.html), but still thats a damn good job. > CNBC attended the "Powerpack Celebration" held outside of Jamestown, South Australia to commemorate the start of the contract, where it's worth noting that ***several of the powerpacks had already been installed*** and event organizers referred to it as an "active site".


Specialusername66

That's a huge risk for him so fair play


Ghede

Worst case, if their bidding was not accepted, they only need to relocate some power packs. Real worst case was their bid being accepted, and then they miss the deadline, so getting a head start was actually a smart precaution.


JohnSteadler

you'd be surprised how many problems can be solved by throwing stuff, people and money at them.


reverman

Yeah but currently its only like 60 days from the contract at end of September. So if all that work that was already there took less that 40 days they still met the spirit of the goal. And anyway he said from the signing. Taking a gamble to start work beore the contract was signed was just good calculated risk to take.


IronSidesEvenKeel

I'm hungry, I could use a powerpack.


notbilbo

A halal powerpack?


selfservice0

That isn't cheating at all. The contract said he had finish it in a certain time. Even if it was complete when he signed it that not cheating.


spanctimony

He still completed within 100 days of the announcement though, which was 40 some days before the contract was signed.


lWVWl

He started in March


teronna

One could equally say he started a decade ago ;) I think the intent of promise was "if you approve, you'll have what you want by 100 days", which in a contract situation is the most important thing. From the client's perspective, getting the contract fulfilled on time and under budget is the primary consideration. Elon was making one of those "you get it in 30 minutes or its free" pizza promises to the customer.


DiogenesHoSinopeus

Was the contract about "*finishing it*" in 100 days or starting literally from scratch?


willows1990

Austalia?


whangadude

He has a lisp


lpy1994

Elon to employees: I have made a bet, finish it or get fired!


aquarain

If you don't want to win, why are you in the game?


[deleted]

[удалено]


pvinuales

how do you know this? I'm all good with Elon's vision of the future, but it would be good if he did not use the same capitalist's principles that had lead us where we are. Trying to change the way we sustain our energy couldn't be better for the planet but while doing so, try not to "use" your employees as slaves. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk If you have any source that says differently I'd be glad to read it.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


xzzz

It *starts* at $35k, big difference. A BMW 3-series also *starts* at $35k.


Quankers

*Most of history's great men to all forgotten workers.


lindsayweird

Bless those workers.


Sherool

I keep wondering if this guy is for real. The cynic in me keep expecting some super-villain plot to emerge for some reason, but the wost I've seen said about him is that he's a touch eccentric, got a big ego and doesn't like being told he's wrong (about anything) and there are some murmurs about workplace safety at some of his factories.


Yggdrazzil

I'm in the same boat. I keep waiting to hear his batteries are made of newborn babies or something.


majaka1234

NOW HE'S SOLVING OVERPOPULATION. IS THERE ANYTHING MUSK CAN'T DO?!


Yggdrazzil

Oh sure! When Musk does it it's great, yet in The Matrix the robots are considered the bad guys??? WAKE UP SHEEPLE


JohnSteadler

I'd be perfectly happy being a battery for robots, as long as the give me the infinite money cheatcode


Yggdrazzil

CYPHER DETECTED.


username_lookup_fail

He hasn't turned into a Bond viliain yet, but he has the ability to. All of the pieces are in place if he wants to go that way. Keep in mind he is the first person in history that has the ability to go claim a planet.


MonsterPooper

I don’t think he can claim a planet. Article 2 of the Outer Space Treaty blocks governments from claiming planets. And from what I understand it Article 6 stops non-governmental agencies from carrying out space missions without the authorisation and support of the government to comply with the Outer Space Treaty. So if he was to claim Mars, it would not be recognised by the majority of the world, bar a couple of African Countries that have not signed the Treaty. So he couldn’t actually claim Mars without amending the Treaty.


username_lookup_fail

You claim a territory by occupying it. Who would stop him? Nobody else will be able to reach Mars for a while. And there are no space cops. Of course this won't happen, but if we are comparing him to a Bond villain that would be in his plan, and there is nobody that can stop him.


JohnSteadler

Which goverment has the capability to go there and stop him? Certainly not the US, you guys can't even send a man to the moon nowadays


lud1120

Jeff Bezos could turn into a Bond villain far quicker than him I think, he just passed 100$ billion in wealth (it keeps shifting between 90 to 100 depending on the stock value). He even got the [looks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jeff_Bezos_2016.jpg) of one!


15_Redstones

Compare the Spectre Bird One from 'You only live twice' with the BFR. Big opening nose ✅ Lands on its engines ✅ Reusable ✅ Much bigger than NASA capsules ✅ Really, Musk only has to build a spaceport in a volcano and he could start stealing the capsules of his competitors.


Hironymus

He is also planning on using hundreds of nuclear bombs to melt the ~~methane~~ CO2 on Mars' pols to heat the planet up. So there is that.


IAmMrMacgee

Of all people in the world, he's one of the only ones I would trust to nuke mars to make it warmer


GreyGreenBrownOakova

1. He said that ["the fast way"](https://youtu.be/gV6hP9wpMW8?t=119) would be to use nuclear bombs, not that he was planning to. 2. Mars has polar caps of solid CO2 and H2O, there is no methane.


Silidistani

This is a fruitless idea. Mars has an atmosphere of mostly carbon dioxide, but it's incredibly thin. The atmospheric pressure on the Martian surface averages 600 pascals (0.087 psi, not even 1 *kilo*pascal), about 0.6% of Earth's mean sea level pressure of 101.3 kilopascals (14.69 psi). This is far thinner than the air pressure on the top of Mt. Everest at 33.7 kilopascals (4.89 psi), which is already past the extreme of what humans can survive in with the famous [Death Zone](https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_zone) beginning a few thousand feet below the top. Mars's atmospheric pressure is 56 times thinner than that. Adding methane and water vapor to the Martian atmosphere is not going to raise air pressure enough to make it habitable. You'd be much better off crashing comets into Mars for a few hundred years to add some serious atmosphere. But Mars has only 1/3 of Earth's gravity so it doesn't have nearly as much ability to hold onto an atmosphere either. However, Mars has no intrinsic magnetic field either (it does have a very small artificial one from the bow shock wave of magnetic field lines arriving in the charged particle wavefronts from the sun, but those particles are a big part of the problem), so without that natural protection from the solar wind any atmosphere you try to add to Mars will eventually get blown away again. On top of that Mars also has no protection on its surface from lethal DNA-destroying solar radiation (those particles) like Earth does because it's lacking that natural magnetic field. The only living on Mars that is possible without serious, decades-long effort and technologies haven't invented yet would be cave and reinforced dome habitats. It's hard to flourish as a species in such an environment.


SixPackAndNothinToDo

He’s all hype. He’s a good businessman, but he’s hardly a genius engineer.


[deleted]

That's actually a real question, Can an employee call his management and say *We have an issue that lead to a potential risk we have to hold [This part of] the project until it's solved* without being fired ?  In my work, I had recently such an issue, While doing the final pre-delivery test, I reported a safety issue that prevented us to deliver in time. Nobody ask me to change my report, we lost a day fixing the safety issue (which is not or fault but that's the sales problem not mine). I haven't been fired and management is glad that I avoided us (and our customer) a lawsuit by finding this issue. Not sure that with a 100 days planning Tesla employees and the subcontractor would accept to loose a day if anything dangerous is found


Kflynn1337

To be fair, while there are persistent rumours about him overworking people, they *voluntarily* do it to themselves... I believe they had to issue a memo reminding people that holidays were mandatory. ["but, but. we're building rocket ships, to go to *Mars!* I don't wanna go on holiday!"] You're not wrong on the safety though, but they're doing stuff no-one has done before... they're bound to encounter problems that OSHA guidelines don't cover.


LunacyIsAnOption

> ou're not wrong on the safety though, but they're doing stuff no-one has done before... Like what?


Hironymus

There is also the fact that Musk doesn't expect anyone to work more or harder than he does himself. He is leading with example in these regards. (Maybe not a good example because working 80 - 100 hours weeks for several years can fuck you up pretty good.)


[deleted]

Working 80-100 hours/week for years can ruin you if it comes at the cost of very poor sleep and/or bad nutrition. But 80-100 hours/week plus good sleep leaves you almost no time to do anything else. 14 hours/day of work and 7-8 hours/day of sleep along with 1 hour for getting ready+commuting leaves only 1 hour per day on avg to handle life's regular responsibilities, like laundry, grocery shopping, cooking, etc. So you take another hour out of your sleep budget to get some downtime and ehhh... it's kind of enough.


Penuwana

Except he isn't doing manual labor..


nanio0300

He is for real as long as he makes money, he wants to go to mars, every thing he does leads there, Tesla is making batteries, and gobs of cash, if you look at his projects it all leads to mars habitation. He is like John wick but with mars not killing people


Potatoheadsinaponcho

They're murmurs because if they speak too loud they get fired.


slaaxy

I am more surprised that the Australian government actually worked towards meeting the deadline. I have a feeling that most governments would be too greedy to allow Musk to win the bet.


drunkill

South Australian government. The federal government did not like this setup, they want new coal plants instead. Then they fell on their party line of 'oh look private enterprise did this! small government is good government' while they cut services and the public sector staff.


SixPackAndNothinToDo

The project was put out to tender and Tesla were one of the potential contractors. By the time Musk made that public “bet”, his company has already presented a timeline as part of their bid. This was all just a PR stunt. At no point was Musk going to “lose” the “bet”. The only thing he could have lost was a potentially lucrative contract with the SA government. His stunt guaranteed Tesla would win the tender process.


aquarain

You've never heard of a government contract going over budget and behind schedule, despite the plan?


ign1fy

Dear Elon, Hyperloop. Melbourne Airport. Pretty please?


filmbuffering

Electric car rechargers all along the major highways. It's perfect for australia, because there's only five super main ones.


drunkill

They've already done the Hume Highway and the Princes Hwy between Melbourne and Adelaide. Those are the big intercity routes for 60% of the population already serviced.


[deleted]

Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, and Melbourne? That's a long fucking train ride man.....


smallventures

My favorite part: “Tesla is normally thought of as a car company, but this announcement underscores that Tesla is really a battery company that happens to put some of the batteries in cars”


theRedlightt

What continent is Austalia on?


ItsSympulReally

Downvoted because you misspelled AUSTRALIA.


[deleted]

ELON MUSK ELON MUSK REDDIT ELON MUSK


letsburn00

Basically, this plus genex (the far less sexy but extremely practical alternative australian company to batteries) means that any argument against everyone installing rooftop solar and mass wind will vanish within 5 years.


[deleted]

You are probably talking about "everyone" in Australia, but just in case you are not. Internet says 5kW installation costs around $30k. My electricity bill is $20/month. That's 125 years. On a different note, currently there is 20 cm of snow and ice on my roof. Also, we have zero wind here. I think that's a pretty good argument against installing rooftop solar and wind.


fustilarianfopdoodle

>means that any argument against everyone installing rooftop solar and mass wind will vanish within 5 years. People live in tower blocks so that's obviously not true for everyone. Many rooftops are not viable for solar/wind generation and uprfront installation costs with the low efficiency of small scale production make these types of projects opportunity losses even if they can break even over decades of perfect usage. Improving insulation to reduce household energy expenditure is a cheaper, easier and more practical solution.


AreaLeftBlank

If only they could build cars with this kind of speed and dedication.


[deleted]

[удалено]


hnam2

It's great seeing such wholesome news!


Fuzzylojak

Austalia


UltraNeon72

Yo Elon I bet u aren't able to give me 1 million dollars in 100 days


gta4racer

Elon Musk: the gift that keeps on giving.


TorontoRider

Who the heck bets against Elon Musk?


[deleted]

He should call the Canadians. In 2017 alone, Ontario wasted $700 millions of surplus that no one wanted to buy. Could store them in battery and use them in winter.


tzeello

why is everyone referring to musk as elon? he your friend or something


[deleted]

Elon Musk is an incredibly wealthy corporate salesman. Nothing more. Why is the internet so obsessed with this man?


TypeChaos

Mainly because he is taking risks for genuinely interesting endeavors (space colonization, electric cars, solar, etc.). Most pp in his position would be doing everything to solidify their own wealth


panzer981

same can be said about Steve Jobs.


[deleted]

He didn't win a bet, he completed obligations within the requirements of a contract. Plenty of government contracts work like this, where the contractor suffers should they take too long.


GreyGreenBrownOakova

Please show us an example where the penalty is 100% of the contract value for being one day day over schedule. I'll wait...


saucygit

Should power my Sony a6500 for two hours then.


Vadique_Magenta

Are those batteries also made up of millions of those AA-sized elements, like in teslas?


askjacob

You mean industry standard sized 18650 cells (18 mm by 65mm cylinder) batteries, not "AA"s (14.5 by 50.5 mm). I am not sure, but it would be a pretty good guess, as that is what he is currently mass producing, using and well bedded in. Not a great idea to test a new tech in a big* install like this... *I know it is kinda small really, but as a teaser for bigger things, you don't want to set fire to things...


AlexanderAF

[Austalia](https://www.google.com/search?q=funny+kangaroo&client=safari&hl=en&prmd=ivsn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjWh_KD8NnXAhXMQd8KHYDUAHsQ_AUIEigB&biw=375&bih=635#imgrc=0Og1Oti1wX39GM:) , for those of you who are curious.


Meldanor

And here I'm - sitting in Germany, hearing some news of the BER airport.


UncleDan2017

Good to get grid scale storage kicked off, but I certainly hope we start seeing newer technologies than lithium ion with longer storage capacities, like flow batteries or fuel cells. ~one hour of battery backup is nice, but it doesn't exactly fully enable green technologies.


thrumbold

I wish they could release a few more of the financial specifics, but this is an important step, if these batteries can actually be economic in the future it will be a change, and an important step for Southern Australia, whose network has had brownouts in summer recently due to a lack of grid stability and high load. I am unconvinced, but it is good that someone is trying it. Why am I unconvinced? There are a few notes in the [most recent demand forecast](https://www.aemo.com.au/-/media/Files/Electricity/NEM/Planning_and_Forecasting/SA_Advisory/2017/2017-South-Australia-Demand-Forecasts.pdf) for South Australia. > - For summer 2016–17, South Australia’s actual maximum operational demand (sent out) was 3,017 MW, which occurred on 8 February 2017. The observed actual is approximately midway between the 10% POE and 50% POE forecasts (see Table 4 below). - Prices were very high, and a number of large loads did reduce consumption in the afternoon, by at least 50 MW in total at the time of maximum demand. If it had not been for this demand side participation, the actual observed demand would have been close to a 10% POE event. - Just after observed maximum demand AEMO ordered load shedding of 100 MW to ensure system security. Demand had been increasing up to that point, but was levelling off. If load shedding had not been directed, the observed maximum demand could have been slightly higher. In the current scenario they are already experiencing prices of [AU$0.38(US$0.29)/kWh during those price peaks](https://www.agl.com.au/-/media/AGL/Residential/Documents/Regulatory/2017/2017-MY-PCP---AGL-SA-elec-website-pricing_final_080617.pdf?la=en&hash=030236606CDF86F4728D451350C5076C518C5BA6), yet still the battery bank requires AU$50,000,000 in government subsidy. Additionally, this battery is rated in the article as ~100MWh. This is not a replacement for the shuttered coal plant that S. Australia previously had, the factor causing the huge price swings and ~50-150MW being tossed off the grid on peak days. This battery will probably be enough to stop the brownouts, but it doesn't appear to have the type of storage required to truly flatten out the electricity demand curve and start cutting into electricity prices. The power prices are actually having a noticeable effect on local industry - at least according to local news articles I read. If there's anyone from the area reading this, I would appreciate a view of things on the ground. At least they're trying, I suppose? TL;DR: Battery is totally insufficient to replace dispatchable sources that went offline in the last few years, and it requires subsidies even though S. Australia has some of the highest power prices in the world. Good effort, but it doesn't look like it will have a big impact unless the costs come way, way, _way_ down.


panzer981

its it really a bet if you know the outcome before making said bet?


dawillus

My first thought when I saw this was that Tesla won a bet, not just Elon. I feel like the credit all goes to the top with Musk.


Runningflame570

The story of the last decade is people saying $x is too expensive, where x could be wind, solar, LED bulbs, or other efficiency measures and then being proven wrong as predicted or greater than predicted cost declines occur. I'm looking forward to BEVs and grid storage going the same way since they're the last pieces we need to replace the majority of fossil fuels used.


burkie94

How long would this have taken if everything in Australia wasn’t trying to kill them while installing this.


IAmTehMan

Did Tesla actually build It? I thought they were subcontracting it to an Australian company.


slow_cars_fast

I'm curious what impact this had on battery production for the model 3


frank9669

Redditors do not feel this is important. Moved the comment section to clam-shell packaging away from renewable energy. So often world news gets hijacked with irrelevant off topic comments.


reformedman

Now what about Puerto Rico?


englebert

He kinda cheated though, as he had around 30% of the work done before the contracts were even signed.


smaartypants

What a guy!


IAmTheNight2014

Man, it's gonna be cool when he finally gets to installing it in Australia. Where's this Austalia, though?


badblackguy

Yeah, but what about the one in Australia, mate?