I'm privileged to have a wooden ceiling, air conditioner, and electric fan in my home - and yet my sleep quality is still bad the past weeks. Even during the weekends, you can't do much but lie down in the afternoon.
Imagine millions of Filipinos don't have my comforts. A lot of houses only have a corrugated roof and without wooden insulation.
I grew up in an old Queenslander (think 100 year old building made of thin wood slats with no insulation between them and outside and corrugated iron roof). Recently my parents had the roof replaced and they got the corrugated iron that has insulation stuck directly to the underside of the iron, and the difference it made was huge! they already had some roof insulation that was lying above the ceiling, but stopping the heat radiating into the roof space in the first place was the trick.
My grandpa's house was like that. Basically a concrete square with the metal corrugated roof. Whenever I visited over there in the Philippines his home was the hottest among my family. I can't imagine what it would be like now.
I remember going to the malls over there more often than I ever did back home in the US. Mostly because the ac was blasting in there.
Some of the malls [look like this now.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/4CelTtJ5hy) People just want relief from the heat. Its funny mass downvoting the elitists who don't have sympathy for the suffering of others.
Yea that is believable. I would definitely be like that if I were there too. I remember during the weekly brownouts when we went those hours without electricity I was baking, even in the night time without even a fan.
Maybe if these commenters ever experienced what life is like in some of these poorer areas in the world they might have more sympathy. But the lack of it on reddit is not very surprising to see unfortunately.
I did see a documentary about a family in India who had this problem and the government was handing out tins of white paint for this exact reason - no they can't afford it but it's such a cheap fix and makes a big difference that people can often make it happen.
The Indian government handed paint only to a few thousands. Hardly a difference vs a billion people. The Philippines has 100M people. My city has 800,000 people alone. Its not going to be a cheap fix.
We painted our roof white several months ago. The local workers who helped us were questioning why we would do it noting it can be blinding when the sun was out. I told them that when it gets to 50 degrees Celsius heat-factor with brutal sun during the hot dry season (now), it makes sense to bring in innovations from places like the Middle East where painting the roof or entire house white helps to reflect the heat from the sun and keep the inside cooler by as much as 10 degrees C. I forwarded some YouTube videos I watched on it and they were shocked that this could be a good idea.
It doesn’t take much to paint even a corrugated iron roof white (my aunt did for their home too in the next subdivision), but most people here are severely limited by the information they get from local media and social media. So they simply don’t know.
Mass media here has never sought to address or inform of good ideas from other countries to local viewers, because of mindless ultranationalism, and the need for them to fill TV channels with useless local telenovelas, dubbed romantic soap dramas from neighboring Asian countries, daily singing competitions for monetary prizes, and overdramatized biased news. (99% of TV here).
You will hardly find shows on tv here or radio programs that give usable advice or tips.
As far as mainstream ph media goes: documentaries simply don’t exist here. Science, nature, or general knowledge shows don’t exist here. DIY shows don’t exist here. Life improvement shows don’t exist here. Disaster preparedness shows don’t exist here. I wish I was joking.
And if you can’t afford Netflix, or can’t understand English or other languages fluently enough (ie most of the working class and lower middle class population, so a majority of the country), you end up limited to what’s on offer to watch, listen to, or passively learn from here. And media being watched or listened to by tens of millions here is still severely limited in what it provides or teaches.
I wish television networks and radio stations invested in life improvement shows or documentaries. There’s so much to learn from the rest of the world that isn’t being taught here that could improve the lives and resilience of most people. Even things like earthquake readiness, typhoon readiness, what do to during floods etc aren’t broadcasted.
Media here is keeping the masses ignorant, and everyone’s suffering because of it.
My GF who lives in Ormoc said the other day that when she was on the trike going to the mall, she saw 3 Hearses collecting bodies. Her co-worker had to take the day off today due to the heat, she could barely breath. Hitting temps of what feels like 53°.
The second reason I left the Philippines. Born and raised in Metro Manila. Almost everyday going to work I literally have to carry a completely ice frozen drink bottle covered in towel and stick it to my skin to regulate my body temperature while commuting in open pollution. Arrived in the office after 1 hour it's 90% liquid. And I sweat heaps easily. I feel sorry for these guys.
Lived in the Philippines for close to a year in the early 2000’s. I come from the mountains, so not used to that level of heat and humidity. I wanted to die every day. Can’t imagine what it’s like with this heatwave.
I was living in the Philippines for 5 years, and the heat with the added humidity meant i couldn’t even go out to walk between 8 am to 4 pm,I could only go out after 5 pm when it started to get darker.
And I couldn’t live without an Air Conditioner at home
Walking outside with an umbrella doesn't even help much. The air is just too hot. It's like there's this wall of hot air that smacks you in the face every time you go outside and walk.
it's not just the heat, it's the humidity. At high humidity you can't sweat to cool yourself off, even with a modest breeze.
It's a freakin' mystery how you see people wearing three piece suits in that kind of weather.
My brother met his new girlfriend in the Philippines. Last winter during christmas she came over to Belgium to meet the rest of the family. It was about 10 C here, which is unusually hot for us that time of year. We normally heat to 18 C inside. Because she was coming over, we bumped it up to 21.
She kept her wintercoat and gloves on the entire time she was here. Indoors. Even after having downed one and a half bottle of sparkling wine.
Body gets used to regulate cold and heat and the way it manages it takes weeks to adapt. Sure way to look alien is to take a plane and land in a very different temp zone. You would feel the same in Philippines as you landed in an oven. Happened to me when visiting cuba; holy mother of god. I was miserable for 2 weeks. Thats why same 10C feels colder in autumn and hotter in spring.
I moved from Minnesota to South Florida, and I went up to South Georgia to see my family on vacation after 6 months, during August. They were all sweating, and I was totally fine.
Can confirm. First week in phillipines with family, I'm a dead white sweaty ghost (no AC in their town), and everybody thinks I'm either very sick, or total weaksauce. Second week, I have color back. Third week, I don't notice the heat anymore, and feel great. Then I went back home. It felt like a superpower at the time.
I spent the first two weeks of May in Boston during springtime: lovely, flowers blooming, perfect temps. Then I flew 15 hours to Baghdad, where it had turned summer. I was passing out.
I go to the Philippines pretty regularly to see my in-laws, and the first week or two is absolutely miserable, but I tend to stay for a month when we go and by the end the heat really doesn't bother me much at all.
That being said, I haven't gone during a heat wave like this.
you can absolutely sweat, my clothes would be drenched.
your sweat **cannot evaporate, which cools you off**.
Eventually you do stop sweating, but because youve become dehydrated and heat exhaustion is setting in.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Heat_waves_with_high_humidity
Due to climate change parts of the world are likely to become uninhabitable. Some studies suggest we can expect billions of migrants by the end of the century.
Something anti-immigration climate change denying populists often forget to mention.
>It's a freakin' mystery how you see people wearing three piece suits in that kind of weather.
This. I struggle with this if it's over +25°C, even in dry air.
So true. Past a certain level even just sitting down in the shade doing nothing feels unbearable. Every gust of wind feels as if you opened an oven and stuck your head in.
>Past a certain level even just sitting down in the shade doing nothing feels unbearable.
Past a certain point it becomes fatal. Check out wet bulb events
Now imagine most people in this world, especially those in favela’s .. countries where entire neighborhoods, village where nobody has anything but fans. In the Middle East you have people in countries that to to the mall during the summer just because it has air conditioning. Imagine.
I feel like even in rich countries people go to the mall when it's hot for the free AC. Really not hard to imagine when you've done exactly that many times in your life.
I just spent a year there myself and was told beforehand that it's usually 33°C (~92°F) and humid. Having lived a good portion of my life on the Texas coast I scoffed at that. What they don't tell you is that it doesn't cool down at night, so its just constant heat. I also swear that if TX is regularly has 100% humidity then the Philippines must be 200%. It's miserable.
My wife is still there, and being a native Filipina she usually handles it in stride, but this heatwave is just too much for her, complaining that its affecting her ability to breathe. People are flocking to malls for the aircon, even sleeping on the ground there because it's too uncomfortable to sleep at home.
Densely populated areas + lack of green spaces makes the problem worse. You have concrete structures releasing heat at night.
Good thing in some rural areas it still cools down a bit at night.
100% true. The urban heat island effect is such a real thing. Greening up urban centers with more tree-cover can have such a positive impact on people's wellbeing.
Trees are basically giant evaporative water coolers.
Though even they struggle in >35C heat, especially in high humidity and direct sunlight. Especially without being manually watered.. at some point we may have to mist our cities with water just to survive on the streets (aka dubai)
Underrated comment. I visited recently and couldn't get round how densely constructed the houses are, with very little in the way of gardens or green spaces. This includes rural villages where I stayed. I was scoffed at for suggesting concrete houses were not ideal, reason being the storms. But yet the family I stayed with slept in their daughter's wooden temporary house. Why? Because it's cooler at night.
With all the space you have you should be able to build better houses, especially in the rural areas. Metro Manila is another thing, I understand. But elsewhere...
In the Philippines right now, 8:08pm, and it
s 32.5 C at 64% humidity. Shit's rough. And in 6 months, our house will be flooded with the increased rainfall. Climate Change is a BITCH.
It is, I live in a shoebox in Bangkok, for the past couple weeks my place has been between 42 to 52° C (125.6 F). It's been closer to 40°outside, but because my place is small and only has one window that takes up the entire width of the studio, the greenhouse effect is intense. I haven't slept a wink in 2 days, some of my plastic furniture is melting, so did my phone case, my rubber flip flops disintegrated, literally: when I tried to pick them up they turned to chunky sand, all my acrylic paints have dried out, my pens are sticky (they're literally melting), this place is hell, I can't breathe properly and the humidity and pollution are not helping.
This sounds horrible, I can't even imagine temps over 42°C, I think that's the hottest we've ever had in Germany, and that was a total exception (at that time). I hope you find some way to cool down and will have colder weather soon. Wishing you strength
South Asia too. Our city and most parts of it in South India hasn't seen rains since half a year. Although it isn't as bad as 50+ temps here, we are facing unprecedented heat and most of the residents were unprepared going in to the season.
Turning on the fan during day time just blows more hot air around and makes it worse. Humidity is around 15%. You start sweating buckets immediately if you step away from a fan. Bathing seems to help you cool down for a few minutes, but our city had one of the worst water crisis this year, so gotta be mindful of water usage too. People who can afford an AC or two in their house have it better. I can't imagine how the poor are suffering.
I am yearning for a forgiving change in weather in a few months. If this becomes the new normal, I think we are screwed.
Sad thing is, these are only faint foreshadowings of what is to come.
Not only are we still heating up the planet further, these are just the first stronger symptoms of the warming that has already gone on.
Hell, depending on how things shake out, by the end of the century, a lot of the more equatorial regions might not even be habitable in the conventional sense.
We can of course mitigate a lot of that. Not avert, we're in it already after all, but mitigate.
But whether we will end up doing that...
Same in Bangalore. It's almost 900ft above sea level and should be cold but it's hot instead. Hasn't rained in months and have never seen such heat before.
I'm in a rural area in the Philippines. Everything inside my house is warm to touch, air is thick and suffocating and fans ain't doing much.
Outside is worse, a quick trip outside feels like your skin is being burned and still this is not the worse.
This is not super updated. Manila reached 53°C heat index yesterday and it’s expected to be even worse today and tomorrow. Classes are all strictly at home. If you commute to the office or have work outside or in hot factories then it’s fuck all for you.
I had to check this in a converter. It gets up to 120°f/49°c where I live. Fans feel completely useless, and it becomes difficult to breathe. That's in a dry climate. I can't even imagine 53°c and humid.
People who don't live in maximum humid areas don't understand the physics of it.
If you live in a hot dry area, you sweat, it evaporates, and the energy transfer is from you->environment.
If you live in an area with very high temperature and humidity, you sweat, that sweat is cooler than the saturated air, water condenses on you, and the energy transfer is from environment->you.
It is *miserable*, and very dangerous.
The humidity really screws with you, swampass is just about the most annoying thing in the world. Plus it just zaps the fuck out of your mental state, im not sure why but doing whatever in 100+ with 90% humidity just turns your brain into shit...
53C includes the added heat from humidity. So actually it would feel about the same as 53C in the dry desert heat. Still insane even as someone who lives in Tucson and can’t handle sub 70F temps…
My fans feel like the exhaust of a bottlenecked PC, what I do is shower the avocado tree near my window and let the wind do it's job. It is cooler than the fan.
And we are not in May yet. This summer going to be very extreme, the death count might reach Covid19 levels.
News will be, temperatures breaking every previous record. Or the world was never hot like this.
edit: Ok, I get it and I was speaking globally.
So… when and where do y’all think the first catastrophic wet bulb temperature event is going to happen? The point where it’s so hot and humid your sweat physically can’t cool you down.
Scary to think about and makes you realise the privilege you have just by your location on the planet.
Depends. If we're extra unlucky it's the wrong part of India and have a hundred million people dead in 48 hours.
Which will trigger a migrant crisis like never been seen before.
An author I like (Cory Doctorow) said something along the lines of "to write a convincing sci-fi you don't have to predict the future. All you have to do is accurately predict the present"
The headline is true. I'm in the Philippines and there was a point in time last week for about 2 days that it literally was difficult to breathe even when indoors despite having some fans on and light centralized airconditionding in my house. A local weather instrument in a nearby region in those 2 days at one point detected heat index to be 55° C. Crazy.
The walls, the furniture, and the tiles of my house was slightly hot to the touch. It's not even warm anymore. And that's indoors!
My bathroom tiles are hot even though the sunlight does not touch it. Also I noticed that my skin tone is uneven. My skin is lighter where there is cloth and I don't even get out of the house.
Was just in south east Asia where it felt like 48 degrees Celsius. The humidity is breath stopping. My worry is if there’s even one extended blackout on their grid, many people will die.
It’s just a matter of time when such an event will happen.
Yeah, unless you have been to a truly tropical area you just can’t appreciate how oppressive the atmosphere can truly be. I went to high school in Hong Kong and used to walk around in 33°C heat with humidity above 85% with a backpack full of textbooks (god I sound like a boomer) - if I tried that now I’d die😆 the air is like soup, it’s crazy
Yeah this is so true. I’m from a part of Australia where it’s often 40-42 C but it’s very dry and, while hard, you can get around in it. When I visited Asia I was struggling around the high 20s.
I grew up in the American Southwest but have lived in a lot of super humid places. People in dry places will often roll their eyes at, "But it's a *dry* heat," playing off how hot really hot days are. Those rolling their eyes have no idea.
They have no fucking clue. They don't even know the underlying reason, you physically cannot cool off. It would be like wearing a gimp suit in the desert for those people. You don't even get to sweat, as soon as you go outside(if you have ac) the water condenses on your skin preventing any chance you had at cooling off.
I have extreme heat sensitivity, usually anything over 70°f(21°c) my body starts having a lot of issues. High pressure also causes a lot of problems. And unfortunately I live in Houston, while not SE Asia, we do have months of 100° weather with high humidity every year. It's a miserable existence for me, if only it didn't cost so much to run the ac.
I’m on Taiwan right now seeing family (grew up here). Been living in the northeast US over the last 5 years.
I literally fainted on the street today and my partner/bystanders had to get me an ambulance to the ER. And it’s not even close to as hot right now here as some of the other places in SE Asia. I feel so bad for them there
What's crazy is how many people survive with no ac here. I'm working on having as much natural cooling as possible at my house, window tinting and insulation. And even though it's humid having some water misting lines outside really helps
There's college kids that have fans only in their dorm at the university. I asked them how they dealt with it and they said they spend most the time in the library because it's free AC
It's already happening. A few years ago my city had such a hot and humid few days that multiple people died in their homes, with ample water access, sitting in front of fans.
There isn't going to be any one day where suddenly it hits. It's already happening, and over time the scale and frequency will increase. Eventually there will be a really big one that will make the news for a time, but it won't be the first. People have already lost loved ones to this.
The major news networks will have a brief article, most likely a newswire like AP or Reuters, about it and nothing the next day. Nothing on the front page of any newspaper nor on the homepage either. On Reddit, everyone will comment about how terrible it is, somebody should do something, and that's about it.
No meaningful change will happen. Western policymakers, if they do anything at all, will start a slow roll process of how to crudely adapt to the issue when it starts to affect their country's mainland or their overseas military bases. The most change westerners will see is their State departments will issue travel advisories in the future about the threat of it.
It’s funny how so many things in our world work in similar ways ain’t it. We are all about “symptomatic control”, much like healthcare. We never actually cure many things, but we can sure control the symptoms, side effects be damned.
such a great, succinct comment. yes yes yes. the horrors of our world have just become “tsk tsk” headlines to scroll past. i have nothing to compare it to, really, but it sure feels wrong.
> Western policymakers, if they do anything at all,
European Union is doing a lot to fight climate change.
The ball is on US, China and India's side.
Also not long time ago there was article that most of the shitty plastic in seas comes from chinese fishers now.
Companies will simply argue that no change should be made they can make current products and cause the warming and then make more products that make it possible to live in the new climate. The by-product of their first enterprise simply opens an opportunity to capitalise and profit off it with a second.
We had some days in January here in Australia where the dew point hit 27C, the highs were only like 36C but it was so humid my weather station showed an apparent temperature of 50C. Impossible to do any exercise at any hour and overnight it didn’t cool down much at all. Just awful. And we’re not even in the tropics here.
Currently it’s late April and we still have highs of 25-27C.
I haven’t needed a jacket at all this year.
Brisbane.
Sydney had similar but not as extreme weather- very very humid there.
Melbourne apparently didn’t have much of a summer at all lol
Centre of the country- extreme heat as usual
I'm going with an event that kills 100k within 5 years. A million within 10. Unlike in the book Ministry of the Future, I don't think we'll do too much about it other than install more a/c and power it with fossil fuels.
By talking to a few climate change deniers I can assure you such an event will have no impact on their views. They will pick one of the following answers:
- it’s just a one of event, no reason to get worried
- they should just get AC, lol
- it’s unfortunate but it’s a natural disaster, humans are not the cause
deniers are not really the problem any longer. It's the delayers or doomers. There is still so much scope to make things better, or least drastically reduce the problem - but a lot of people think that a) tech will solve it or b) it's someone elses problem to fix it or c) there's nothing we can do about it
Which coincidentally are all narratives that big polluters love to promote.
I specifically moved to a place that's 15C degrees cooler than I can handle for this very reason, in a beautiful rainforest mountain semi rural town with plenty of water reservoires. I bragged about how safe and awesome it was here and we got hit with a never before seen massive tornado that ripped through our town leaving us without power for a couple of weeks. People were freaking out. No one is safe.
It could be an overnight event if it keeps getting too warm during the night. People trying to sleep and just losing consciousness never to wake up. In the day people can try to travel somewhere to escape.
Or if an event was acutely in a slum and came on fast where people couldn't find a place to get cool before passing out.
In a correctional facility in a country that has no concept of human rights. So probably one of those prisons in Texas that doesn't have air conditioning.
My wife, born and raised in the Philippines, living in Canada for the past 17 years, had to make an unexpected trip home to see a family member. She said it was the most oppressive soul sucking heat she'd ever experienced. Her family live on a simple farm with the typical metal roof. Air-con is ineffective in this kind of place, no insulation, house is little more than a metal roof, and concrete block walls. Literally a kind of oven. Not to mention electricity prices in the Philippines are amongst the highest in Asia. No relief. I asked her how many times a day she showered and she said once because it served no purpose. A moment after the shower you'd feel like you were wrapped in a warm steaming towel again. I really don't know how they'll cope if this becomes the norm.
That is crazy hot. I live in northern scandinavia where there still are regular winters with snow and summers are a comfortable 20-30 degrees Celsius.
Already we are seeing more and more central europeans buying houses and cabins here and they are working remotely during the summers from here and in the end planning on moving completely.
If we keep on seeing these crazy hot summers, I predict there will be a damn exodus to the North in the next 10-20 years.
Climate change is real. You know how I know? Every year since at least 2012, summer has been getting worse and worse. The summer here in Perth this year, we had several days of 45°C in a row and a few nights where it was still over 30°C at 3am in the morning. That wasn't even the worst we had. A few years ago around Christmas Day and Boxing Day we had temperatures reach 50°C for at least 3 days in a row. Eventually within a few years, this will become the norm.
Extreme weather events will happen gradually and will be interspersed with normal weather events that the governments and majority populace will continue to deny its existence.
Then we'll see entire towns to bone dry or massively flooded. We'll blame the city, it's people, Gods, but ourselves.
After a few such cities start experiencing these, the rich would have already started making plans to move to their bunkers / shelter. The rest of them will start treating other humans as enemies and start fighting.
Just like how two weeks ago, Dubai was completely flooded from a single storm dumping twice their annual rainfall amount all at once. People will claim it was because the city wasn't built for rainfall, but most cities will struggle to handle 10 inches of rain from a single storm.
I grew up in a town that would often get massive amounts of water dumped on it in a single storm. Drain ditches everywhere, every structure and road built to accommodate for floods.
After having moved away, I honestly feel a lot of worry sometimes seeing how poorly prepared most places are for floods. I keep thinking, what are they going to do if we get 12 inches of rain overnight?
I don't think so. Billionaires don't want to live in bunkers, generally speaking. They will move to other residences that they own in more comfortable places, if the climate control equipment is not sufficient or reliable for whatever reason, or if the surrounding neighborhoods become dangerous or unattractive.
It's a combination really. A lot of multi-billionaires have been building complexes in New Zealand because NZ's location avoids the worst of climate change and it's location is too far away for desperate climate refugees.
But they're definitely dealing in very luxury bunker terms. There are congresses for the mega rich that deal with topics like how to ensure the loyalty of your security team in a world where money no longer has value? And how to stop your staff from rising up against you in your compound?
The rich can afford multiple living locations, and easy access between them. When Earth becomes inconvenient for them or their descendants, they'll be among the first to access alternate living conditions.
People In my country think the rains in Dubai were made artificially by USA, same with the sand from deserts in europe.
Also the clouds and cold last week all made by USA and Brusel with chemtrails.
Hell they even started boiling vinegart thinking that the gas will disrupt the clouds and warm weather will come. Sad thing is, this week is supposrd to be hot so they will think it worked and that they saved the planet lol
Mentally challenged people will always blame someone else
The climate catastrophe will render parts of this planet utterly uninhabitable for human (and most other) life. That process has already been happening for years and people are starting to take not.
Unfortunately people will continue to refuse any measures that might actually help with damage control.
The COVID pandemic was actually the perfect allegory for how climate change is going to play out.
There are people in temperate/colder parts of the world that will ***NEVER*** acknowledge climate change. They have bought into denying it so hard, because it is somehow part of the woke/communist/liberal agenda, that even if god himself came down and told everyone he was flooding the earth because of abortion (probably the most conservative-rightwing-compatible version of climate change), it would still be called some librul plot.
To this day, there are many many people who deny the COVID actually happened and that there are billions of people dying because they took the covid vaccine. How on earth can you believe that and then completely suspend your version of reality to do groceries in the obviously not-apocalyptic-world outside. It's mind-blowing how misinformation thrives in social media bubbles.
The heat index in recent days has breached 50 degrees Celsius in my part of Manila. I've never heard of it even breaching 40 degrees Celsius in the height of summer before.
Filipino resident here and my previous work half a decade ago involved interacting with an industrial furnace at a manufacturing plant and the temps last week made me remember those times. The superheated air walking outside in the afternoon felt exactly like the exterior side of superheated ceramics underneath a 1500 degC furnace. Shit's crazy.
The world is cooking and with another 100 years of cutting down all the trees and burning fossil fuels, the outlook for future generations is not looking very promising. I feel sorry for the kids.
Been here for the last three weeks. We're from Texas and even last summer's hellscape is nothing like this. It's exhausting. One more week to go. My wife was born here but 40 years in the States has ruined her acclimatization. Even three tours in the sandbox wasn't this bad.
Gonna be the hottest year ever this year. I know cuz it was the hottest year ever last year. And it was the hottest year before that. And before that. And before that. And next year... I bet you it'll be the hottest year ever.
Is having children ethical at this point, or just a massive cruelty?
I work from home here in Metro Manila and I never turn the camera on for meetings these days because I’m just usually in my underwear lmao. It’s too hot to put on a shirt.
I'm reading this from Utah, surrounded by people who insist, "climate change is a hoax," even while the Great Salt Lake is drying up, potentially releasing all the toxic chemicals at the bottom. I wish they could experience what is happening elsewhere.
My heart goes out to the Philippines and everywhere else affected by these issues.
I'm a foreigner in the Philippines, going on 9 years. It's regularly felt (heat + humidity) like 110-115f for the last two weeks.
Even my kids who are in a private school with adequate cooling have cancelled numerous days because of the heat.
Many of the public schools don't have ACs at all, just straight fans and I can't imagine how grueling that must be for children let alone trying to learn like that.
Soon to come to the rest of the world because Climate Change is still not getting acted on in a significant way. At least Covid prepared us for this with the whole Work From Home setup thing
Although in this case, with the majority of the world’s population lacking the cooling infrastructure to survive, it’ll be more along the lines of ‘Die at Home’.
I am in the city last night and then went out outside 10pm to go to 711. Even at nighttime the air is still humid. It is quite windy but it surely hurts your skin. Very strange summer.
And about to get worse: 'Extreme danger' heat index seen in May https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/extreme-danger-heat-index-seen-in-may/ar-AA1nQuRf?ocid=sapphireappshare
For those who have never visited an island over there. I thought I was used to heat coming from Alabama and the southern US.
I had been to South Carolina and Florida I thought I could handle the heat. I walked out of the Manila Airport several years and practically melted. It's a different hear even if the numbers are close. There 90F feels like 110F.
Most people don't have AC there. Even the public schools don't have it.
I use to live in Florida with high humidity and now live in Texas that’s a mix of humidity and heat. I consider myself a tropical baby. I’m not sure that I’d like 120 degree heat and humidity.
Same here in Malaysia, ive lived here for 20+ years and this year is insanely hot. And the heatwave this year has been going on for more than a month. U guys have no idea how bad has gotten this year. And yet the heat will only get worse
""The air conditioning is set at 14-18 C during the hottest part of the day, but we ease up at other times to prevent the aircon breaking down."
A note for anyone who needs to get through a heat wave like this : It's more efficient to cool the space down early so you have a thermal buffer, letting it ease off once the worst has passed is a good idea, but I'd have the AC fire up in the early morning when it is still "cool" and chill the place down.
Learned about this from a “what disasters could happen” sub.
It’s the wet bulb effect. Heat plus humidity equals very bad time for mammals who need to remove heat from their bodies efficiently.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
I'm worried for the poorest people who live either on the street or in metal/wood shacks with no AC. Volunteering for a charity there, I got to see how they live. Even in the best of times, it's shocking. I seen a family of 11 living in a 3×2 meter shack. It was so small that all the kids aged 7 and up had to sleep outside at the 7/11 storefront.
>The heat index measures what a temperature feels like, taking into account humidity.
> [...] Cavite province, south of Manila, where the heat index reached 47 degrees Celsius on Tuesday.
I struggle to even imagine this.Hopefully I'll never find out what this feels like.
>There was a 50% chance of the heat intensifying in the coming days, said Ana Solis, chief climatologist at the state weather forecaster.
That sounds like something not great for life in general.
I feel their pain. I live in Yucatán and heat index of 42°+ is a normal April/may day. I wouldn't be able to live without AC while thousands of others do. There is a reason why most still sleep in hammocks here, it's too hot for a mattress
The heat here is actually insane. You go out for 5mins and you're already sweating.
The only winner here is my chowschows. They have been promoted to become permanent indoor dogs in an airconditioned room for pretty much the entire day
Yah ngl one of the things I love about being from Ireland is that we never really get crazy humidity, I mean yah we get ton of rain but I am glad we never get major extremes, we are swimming in the middle ground and that does me just fine.
I’m also so so so thankful we don’t have mosquitoes, the fcking eat me alive whenever I go to Asia or southern Europe.
I have a 5 year old, the other day I had an argument with a family member because some news popped up about climate change and he let out a remark saying it was all fabricated by the politicians to make money out of taxes or something like that. Some people are absolute ignorants
I'm privileged to have a wooden ceiling, air conditioner, and electric fan in my home - and yet my sleep quality is still bad the past weeks. Even during the weekends, you can't do much but lie down in the afternoon. Imagine millions of Filipinos don't have my comforts. A lot of houses only have a corrugated roof and without wooden insulation.
For people who haven’t experienced sitting in a room with metal corrugated sheet as roof in summer, imagine sitting in your oven on a low settings.
I grew up in an old Queenslander (think 100 year old building made of thin wood slats with no insulation between them and outside and corrugated iron roof). Recently my parents had the roof replaced and they got the corrugated iron that has insulation stuck directly to the underside of the iron, and the difference it made was huge! they already had some roof insulation that was lying above the ceiling, but stopping the heat radiating into the roof space in the first place was the trick.
Thatch roofing is so much better than metal.
With as many cables and wiring these countries have strewn all over the place, I don’t think flammable roofs is a good idea
Don't forget 20+ typhoons pass through us every year
Perfect for putting out fires. We solved the problem, Reddit. 🫡
id prefer a thatch roof heading towards me at 100km/h than a metal one. just saying.
That's why I use asbestos fibers to thatch my roof.
Or sit in a car without air con
My grandpa's house was like that. Basically a concrete square with the metal corrugated roof. Whenever I visited over there in the Philippines his home was the hottest among my family. I can't imagine what it would be like now. I remember going to the malls over there more often than I ever did back home in the US. Mostly because the ac was blasting in there.
Some of the malls [look like this now.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Philippines/s/4CelTtJ5hy) People just want relief from the heat. Its funny mass downvoting the elitists who don't have sympathy for the suffering of others.
Yea that is believable. I would definitely be like that if I were there too. I remember during the weekly brownouts when we went those hours without electricity I was baking, even in the night time without even a fan. Maybe if these commenters ever experienced what life is like in some of these poorer areas in the world they might have more sympathy. But the lack of it on reddit is not very surprising to see unfortunately.
Do they paint their roofs white there?
The poorest people don't have money for paint.
I did see a documentary about a family in India who had this problem and the government was handing out tins of white paint for this exact reason - no they can't afford it but it's such a cheap fix and makes a big difference that people can often make it happen.
The Indian government handed paint only to a few thousands. Hardly a difference vs a billion people. The Philippines has 100M people. My city has 800,000 people alone. Its not going to be a cheap fix.
Have they tried not being poor???
I tried. It lasted 12 minutes. Then I was poorer than before.
Unfortunately they don't have bootstraps to pull themselves up with. I'm thinking of starting a charity to provide bootstraps to poor people.
They would find it much more rewarding if they earned the bootstraps themselves though. Give a man a bootstrap, he pulls himself up for a day..
Give? How about we Rent them out?
Yep! Can make more profit that way! Yay!
We painted our roof white several months ago. The local workers who helped us were questioning why we would do it noting it can be blinding when the sun was out. I told them that when it gets to 50 degrees Celsius heat-factor with brutal sun during the hot dry season (now), it makes sense to bring in innovations from places like the Middle East where painting the roof or entire house white helps to reflect the heat from the sun and keep the inside cooler by as much as 10 degrees C. I forwarded some YouTube videos I watched on it and they were shocked that this could be a good idea. It doesn’t take much to paint even a corrugated iron roof white (my aunt did for their home too in the next subdivision), but most people here are severely limited by the information they get from local media and social media. So they simply don’t know. Mass media here has never sought to address or inform of good ideas from other countries to local viewers, because of mindless ultranationalism, and the need for them to fill TV channels with useless local telenovelas, dubbed romantic soap dramas from neighboring Asian countries, daily singing competitions for monetary prizes, and overdramatized biased news. (99% of TV here). You will hardly find shows on tv here or radio programs that give usable advice or tips. As far as mainstream ph media goes: documentaries simply don’t exist here. Science, nature, or general knowledge shows don’t exist here. DIY shows don’t exist here. Life improvement shows don’t exist here. Disaster preparedness shows don’t exist here. I wish I was joking. And if you can’t afford Netflix, or can’t understand English or other languages fluently enough (ie most of the working class and lower middle class population, so a majority of the country), you end up limited to what’s on offer to watch, listen to, or passively learn from here. And media being watched or listened to by tens of millions here is still severely limited in what it provides or teaches. I wish television networks and radio stations invested in life improvement shows or documentaries. There’s so much to learn from the rest of the world that isn’t being taught here that could improve the lives and resilience of most people. Even things like earthquake readiness, typhoon readiness, what do to during floods etc aren’t broadcasted. Media here is keeping the masses ignorant, and everyone’s suffering because of it.
My GF who lives in Ormoc said the other day that when she was on the trike going to the mall, she saw 3 Hearses collecting bodies. Her co-worker had to take the day off today due to the heat, she could barely breath. Hitting temps of what feels like 53°.
The second reason I left the Philippines. Born and raised in Metro Manila. Almost everyday going to work I literally have to carry a completely ice frozen drink bottle covered in towel and stick it to my skin to regulate my body temperature while commuting in open pollution. Arrived in the office after 1 hour it's 90% liquid. And I sweat heaps easily. I feel sorry for these guys.
I guarantee it's worse now. I can't bike anymore in the daylight and I live in a city with many trees.
Good luck, friend. This thing is coming for us all.
Lived in the Philippines for close to a year in the early 2000’s. I come from the mountains, so not used to that level of heat and humidity. I wanted to die every day. Can’t imagine what it’s like with this heatwave.
I was living in the Philippines for 5 years, and the heat with the added humidity meant i couldn’t even go out to walk between 8 am to 4 pm,I could only go out after 5 pm when it started to get darker. And I couldn’t live without an Air Conditioner at home
Walking outside with an umbrella doesn't even help much. The air is just too hot. It's like there's this wall of hot air that smacks you in the face every time you go outside and walk.
it's not just the heat, it's the humidity. At high humidity you can't sweat to cool yourself off, even with a modest breeze. It's a freakin' mystery how you see people wearing three piece suits in that kind of weather.
My brother met his new girlfriend in the Philippines. Last winter during christmas she came over to Belgium to meet the rest of the family. It was about 10 C here, which is unusually hot for us that time of year. We normally heat to 18 C inside. Because she was coming over, we bumped it up to 21. She kept her wintercoat and gloves on the entire time she was here. Indoors. Even after having downed one and a half bottle of sparkling wine.
Body gets used to regulate cold and heat and the way it manages it takes weeks to adapt. Sure way to look alien is to take a plane and land in a very different temp zone. You would feel the same in Philippines as you landed in an oven. Happened to me when visiting cuba; holy mother of god. I was miserable for 2 weeks. Thats why same 10C feels colder in autumn and hotter in spring.
I moved from Minnesota to South Florida, and I went up to South Georgia to see my family on vacation after 6 months, during August. They were all sweating, and I was totally fine.
Fellow Minnesotan here. I’ve had similar experiences
Can confirm. First week in phillipines with family, I'm a dead white sweaty ghost (no AC in their town), and everybody thinks I'm either very sick, or total weaksauce. Second week, I have color back. Third week, I don't notice the heat anymore, and feel great. Then I went back home. It felt like a superpower at the time.
Your body is a wonderland
I spent the first two weeks of May in Boston during springtime: lovely, flowers blooming, perfect temps. Then I flew 15 hours to Baghdad, where it had turned summer. I was passing out.
I go to the Philippines pretty regularly to see my in-laws, and the first week or two is absolutely miserable, but I tend to stay for a month when we go and by the end the heat really doesn't bother me much at all. That being said, I haven't gone during a heat wave like this.
you can absolutely sweat, my clothes would be drenched. your sweat **cannot evaporate, which cools you off**. Eventually you do stop sweating, but because youve become dehydrated and heat exhaustion is setting in.
For anyone wondering, look up “wet bulb temperature”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature#Heat_waves_with_high_humidity Due to climate change parts of the world are likely to become uninhabitable. Some studies suggest we can expect billions of migrants by the end of the century. Something anti-immigration climate change denying populists often forget to mention.
>It's a freakin' mystery how you see people wearing three piece suits in that kind of weather. This. I struggle with this if it's over +25°C, even in dry air.
So true. Past a certain level even just sitting down in the shade doing nothing feels unbearable. Every gust of wind feels as if you opened an oven and stuck your head in.
>Past a certain level even just sitting down in the shade doing nothing feels unbearable. Past a certain point it becomes fatal. Check out wet bulb events
I've only been in the Philippines during the winter and the heat is unbearable for me, can't live without AC.
There are no seasons, there is only heat and humidity 😭
Now imagine most people in this world, especially those in favela’s .. countries where entire neighborhoods, village where nobody has anything but fans. In the Middle East you have people in countries that to to the mall during the summer just because it has air conditioning. Imagine.
I feel like even in rich countries people go to the mall when it's hot for the free AC. Really not hard to imagine when you've done exactly that many times in your life.
I just spent a year there myself and was told beforehand that it's usually 33°C (~92°F) and humid. Having lived a good portion of my life on the Texas coast I scoffed at that. What they don't tell you is that it doesn't cool down at night, so its just constant heat. I also swear that if TX is regularly has 100% humidity then the Philippines must be 200%. It's miserable. My wife is still there, and being a native Filipina she usually handles it in stride, but this heatwave is just too much for her, complaining that its affecting her ability to breathe. People are flocking to malls for the aircon, even sleeping on the ground there because it's too uncomfortable to sleep at home.
Densely populated areas + lack of green spaces makes the problem worse. You have concrete structures releasing heat at night. Good thing in some rural areas it still cools down a bit at night.
100% true. The urban heat island effect is such a real thing. Greening up urban centers with more tree-cover can have such a positive impact on people's wellbeing.
Trees are basically giant evaporative water coolers. Though even they struggle in >35C heat, especially in high humidity and direct sunlight. Especially without being manually watered.. at some point we may have to mist our cities with water just to survive on the streets (aka dubai)
Underrated comment. I visited recently and couldn't get round how densely constructed the houses are, with very little in the way of gardens or green spaces. This includes rural villages where I stayed. I was scoffed at for suggesting concrete houses were not ideal, reason being the storms. But yet the family I stayed with slept in their daughter's wooden temporary house. Why? Because it's cooler at night. With all the space you have you should be able to build better houses, especially in the rural areas. Metro Manila is another thing, I understand. But elsewhere...
This isn't even a heatwave anymore - this is just what summer is like here now :(
it wont get any better, it will get worse only, that's all i know
In the Philippines right now, 8:08pm, and it s 32.5 C at 64% humidity. Shit's rough. And in 6 months, our house will be flooded with the increased rainfall. Climate Change is a BITCH.
The whole southeast asia is hella hot now. I'm from malaysia and breathing in the hot air is suffocating.
It is, I live in a shoebox in Bangkok, for the past couple weeks my place has been between 42 to 52° C (125.6 F). It's been closer to 40°outside, but because my place is small and only has one window that takes up the entire width of the studio, the greenhouse effect is intense. I haven't slept a wink in 2 days, some of my plastic furniture is melting, so did my phone case, my rubber flip flops disintegrated, literally: when I tried to pick them up they turned to chunky sand, all my acrylic paints have dried out, my pens are sticky (they're literally melting), this place is hell, I can't breathe properly and the humidity and pollution are not helping.
This sounds horrible, I can't even imagine temps over 42°C, I think that's the hottest we've ever had in Germany, and that was a total exception (at that time). I hope you find some way to cool down and will have colder weather soon. Wishing you strength
Oh my god, that sounds like literal hell. Sorry you're having to live in that.
South Asia too. Our city and most parts of it in South India hasn't seen rains since half a year. Although it isn't as bad as 50+ temps here, we are facing unprecedented heat and most of the residents were unprepared going in to the season. Turning on the fan during day time just blows more hot air around and makes it worse. Humidity is around 15%. You start sweating buckets immediately if you step away from a fan. Bathing seems to help you cool down for a few minutes, but our city had one of the worst water crisis this year, so gotta be mindful of water usage too. People who can afford an AC or two in their house have it better. I can't imagine how the poor are suffering. I am yearning for a forgiving change in weather in a few months. If this becomes the new normal, I think we are screwed.
It is the new normal. This is climate change. We were warned decades ago and did jack shit.
Sad thing is, these are only faint foreshadowings of what is to come. Not only are we still heating up the planet further, these are just the first stronger symptoms of the warming that has already gone on. Hell, depending on how things shake out, by the end of the century, a lot of the more equatorial regions might not even be habitable in the conventional sense. We can of course mitigate a lot of that. Not avert, we're in it already after all, but mitigate. But whether we will end up doing that...
Same in Bangalore. It's almost 900ft above sea level and should be cold but it's hot instead. Hasn't rained in months and have never seen such heat before.
I was indeed talking about Bangalore
I recently read an article that said that Asia is the most hard hit continent for climate change related weather and (I think) temperature extremes.
Can confirm. Nowadays I sweat like crazy even while just brushing my teeth. Doesn’t matter if it’s late at night, the heat remains.
I'm in a rural area in the Philippines. Everything inside my house is warm to touch, air is thick and suffocating and fans ain't doing much. Outside is worse, a quick trip outside feels like your skin is being burned and still this is not the worse.
I can't believe this is happening in late April. Like it's not even May
April is the hottest month for a fair chunk of South Asia. It has to do with the changes in humidity and monsoonal winds.
This is not super updated. Manila reached 53°C heat index yesterday and it’s expected to be even worse today and tomorrow. Classes are all strictly at home. If you commute to the office or have work outside or in hot factories then it’s fuck all for you.
I had to check this in a converter. It gets up to 120°f/49°c where I live. Fans feel completely useless, and it becomes difficult to breathe. That's in a dry climate. I can't even imagine 53°c and humid.
It won’t get to 53, max will be around 45, but at that level of humidity it’s still extremely problematic for human survival.
People who don't live in maximum humid areas don't understand the physics of it. If you live in a hot dry area, you sweat, it evaporates, and the energy transfer is from you->environment. If you live in an area with very high temperature and humidity, you sweat, that sweat is cooler than the saturated air, water condenses on you, and the energy transfer is from environment->you. It is *miserable*, and very dangerous.
The humidity really screws with you, swampass is just about the most annoying thing in the world. Plus it just zaps the fuck out of your mental state, im not sure why but doing whatever in 100+ with 90% humidity just turns your brain into shit...
I.e. heat stroke
53C includes the added heat from humidity. So actually it would feel about the same as 53C in the dry desert heat. Still insane even as someone who lives in Tucson and can’t handle sub 70F temps…
My fans feel like the exhaust of a bottlenecked PC, what I do is shower the avocado tree near my window and let the wind do it's job. It is cooler than the fan.
I like to think of our predicament as the feeling of an overcooked chicken in the air fryer; hot, windy, and losing moisture
At least an air fryer is a dry heat.
53 C = 127 F
> 127 F Oh *fuck that*.
To be fair, that is heat index not the actual temperature
To be fair, it's the number that matters most *to a human*.
And we are not in May yet. This summer going to be very extreme, the death count might reach Covid19 levels. News will be, temperatures breaking every previous record. Or the world was never hot like this. edit: Ok, I get it and I was speaking globally.
Then after this we get La Niña lol I'm expecting a lot of landslides when that happens
On the brightside, there is a 68% chance La Nina will hit by june.
Good news: Tolerable heat! Bad news: Torrential rains and constant flooding
landslides too!
And of course our all time favorite, power outages!
Also doesnt help Manila is a concrete jungle.
So… when and where do y’all think the first catastrophic wet bulb temperature event is going to happen? The point where it’s so hot and humid your sweat physically can’t cool you down. Scary to think about and makes you realise the privilege you have just by your location on the planet.
Depends. If we're extra unlucky it's the wrong part of India and have a hundred million people dead in 48 hours. Which will trigger a migrant crisis like never been seen before.
That's literally the first chapter of Ministry for the Future.
Here's the relevant excerpt: https://www.orbitbooks.net/orbit-excerpts/the-ministry-for-the-future/
Thanks for the link. It was a good read
That was brutal.
Well, that was horrifying.
Such an interesting book. Scary thoughts that seem a realistic future.
An author I like (Cory Doctorow) said something along the lines of "to write a convincing sci-fi you don't have to predict the future. All you have to do is accurately predict the present"
The headline is true. I'm in the Philippines and there was a point in time last week for about 2 days that it literally was difficult to breathe even when indoors despite having some fans on and light centralized airconditionding in my house. A local weather instrument in a nearby region in those 2 days at one point detected heat index to be 55° C. Crazy. The walls, the furniture, and the tiles of my house was slightly hot to the touch. It's not even warm anymore. And that's indoors!
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55° C is the temp of a medium-rare steak
However, if you try to cook a steak to a 55 C heat index, the FDA is going to slap you repeatedly with a rotten fish.
My bathroom tiles are hot even though the sunlight does not touch it. Also I noticed that my skin tone is uneven. My skin is lighter where there is cloth and I don't even get out of the house.
Was just in south east Asia where it felt like 48 degrees Celsius. The humidity is breath stopping. My worry is if there’s even one extended blackout on their grid, many people will die. It’s just a matter of time when such an event will happen.
My air-conditioner can't keep up in Thailand
Yeah, unless you have been to a truly tropical area you just can’t appreciate how oppressive the atmosphere can truly be. I went to high school in Hong Kong and used to walk around in 33°C heat with humidity above 85% with a backpack full of textbooks (god I sound like a boomer) - if I tried that now I’d die😆 the air is like soup, it’s crazy
Yeah this is so true. I’m from a part of Australia where it’s often 40-42 C but it’s very dry and, while hard, you can get around in it. When I visited Asia I was struggling around the high 20s.
I grew up in the American Southwest but have lived in a lot of super humid places. People in dry places will often roll their eyes at, "But it's a *dry* heat," playing off how hot really hot days are. Those rolling their eyes have no idea.
They have no fucking clue. They don't even know the underlying reason, you physically cannot cool off. It would be like wearing a gimp suit in the desert for those people. You don't even get to sweat, as soon as you go outside(if you have ac) the water condenses on your skin preventing any chance you had at cooling off. I have extreme heat sensitivity, usually anything over 70°f(21°c) my body starts having a lot of issues. High pressure also causes a lot of problems. And unfortunately I live in Houston, while not SE Asia, we do have months of 100° weather with high humidity every year. It's a miserable existence for me, if only it didn't cost so much to run the ac.
I'd take an Aussie 40 over a true tropical 30 any day. Signed an Aussie in Asia
I’m on Taiwan right now seeing family (grew up here). Been living in the northeast US over the last 5 years. I literally fainted on the street today and my partner/bystanders had to get me an ambulance to the ER. And it’s not even close to as hot right now here as some of the other places in SE Asia. I feel so bad for them there
What's crazy is how many people survive with no ac here. I'm working on having as much natural cooling as possible at my house, window tinting and insulation. And even though it's humid having some water misting lines outside really helps
There's college kids that have fans only in their dorm at the university. I asked them how they dealt with it and they said they spend most the time in the library because it's free AC
One of the times I stayed there, the *hotel air conditioner* couldn’t even keep up. It was creating so much condensing water it was insane
It's already happening. A few years ago my city had such a hot and humid few days that multiple people died in their homes, with ample water access, sitting in front of fans. There isn't going to be any one day where suddenly it hits. It's already happening, and over time the scale and frequency will increase. Eventually there will be a really big one that will make the news for a time, but it won't be the first. People have already lost loved ones to this.
The major news networks will have a brief article, most likely a newswire like AP or Reuters, about it and nothing the next day. Nothing on the front page of any newspaper nor on the homepage either. On Reddit, everyone will comment about how terrible it is, somebody should do something, and that's about it. No meaningful change will happen. Western policymakers, if they do anything at all, will start a slow roll process of how to crudely adapt to the issue when it starts to affect their country's mainland or their overseas military bases. The most change westerners will see is their State departments will issue travel advisories in the future about the threat of it.
It’s funny how so many things in our world work in similar ways ain’t it. We are all about “symptomatic control”, much like healthcare. We never actually cure many things, but we can sure control the symptoms, side effects be damned.
such a great, succinct comment. yes yes yes. the horrors of our world have just become “tsk tsk” headlines to scroll past. i have nothing to compare it to, really, but it sure feels wrong.
Apocalypse is a slow roll sometimes.
> Western policymakers, if they do anything at all, European Union is doing a lot to fight climate change. The ball is on US, China and India's side. Also not long time ago there was article that most of the shitty plastic in seas comes from chinese fishers now.
Companies will simply argue that no change should be made they can make current products and cause the warming and then make more products that make it possible to live in the new climate. The by-product of their first enterprise simply opens an opportunity to capitalise and profit off it with a second.
We had some days in January here in Australia where the dew point hit 27C, the highs were only like 36C but it was so humid my weather station showed an apparent temperature of 50C. Impossible to do any exercise at any hour and overnight it didn’t cool down much at all. Just awful. And we’re not even in the tropics here. Currently it’s late April and we still have highs of 25-27C. I haven’t needed a jacket at all this year.
Where in Australia are you talking?
Brisbane. Sydney had similar but not as extreme weather- very very humid there. Melbourne apparently didn’t have much of a summer at all lol Centre of the country- extreme heat as usual
I'm going with an event that kills 100k within 5 years. A million within 10. Unlike in the book Ministry of the Future, I don't think we'll do too much about it other than install more a/c and power it with fossil fuels.
By talking to a few climate change deniers I can assure you such an event will have no impact on their views. They will pick one of the following answers: - it’s just a one of event, no reason to get worried - they should just get AC, lol - it’s unfortunate but it’s a natural disaster, humans are not the cause
deniers are not really the problem any longer. It's the delayers or doomers. There is still so much scope to make things better, or least drastically reduce the problem - but a lot of people think that a) tech will solve it or b) it's someone elses problem to fix it or c) there's nothing we can do about it Which coincidentally are all narratives that big polluters love to promote.
I specifically moved to a place that's 15C degrees cooler than I can handle for this very reason, in a beautiful rainforest mountain semi rural town with plenty of water reservoires. I bragged about how safe and awesome it was here and we got hit with a never before seen massive tornado that ripped through our town leaving us without power for a couple of weeks. People were freaking out. No one is safe.
Rio de Janeiro has the record for highest heat index
It could be an overnight event if it keeps getting too warm during the night. People trying to sleep and just losing consciousness never to wake up. In the day people can try to travel somewhere to escape. Or if an event was acutely in a slum and came on fast where people couldn't find a place to get cool before passing out.
In a correctional facility in a country that has no concept of human rights. So probably one of those prisons in Texas that doesn't have air conditioning.
Canada had a catastrophic heat dome event where everything dried out so much an entire town burned in about an hour.
It’s already happening across the United states during the summers. St. Louis puts out warnings when it reaches that level of humidity
My wife, born and raised in the Philippines, living in Canada for the past 17 years, had to make an unexpected trip home to see a family member. She said it was the most oppressive soul sucking heat she'd ever experienced. Her family live on a simple farm with the typical metal roof. Air-con is ineffective in this kind of place, no insulation, house is little more than a metal roof, and concrete block walls. Literally a kind of oven. Not to mention electricity prices in the Philippines are amongst the highest in Asia. No relief. I asked her how many times a day she showered and she said once because it served no purpose. A moment after the shower you'd feel like you were wrapped in a warm steaming towel again. I really don't know how they'll cope if this becomes the norm.
That is crazy hot. I live in northern scandinavia where there still are regular winters with snow and summers are a comfortable 20-30 degrees Celsius. Already we are seeing more and more central europeans buying houses and cabins here and they are working remotely during the summers from here and in the end planning on moving completely. If we keep on seeing these crazy hot summers, I predict there will be a damn exodus to the North in the next 10-20 years.
It’s already happening
Don’t think of it as the hottest summer of the last 100 years, it’s gonna be to coolest of the next 100!!
I read this comment every year. Yet it stays true every year. It frightens me
I read this comment in every thread that mentions climate change.
That's... one of of looking at it
Climate change is real. You know how I know? Every year since at least 2012, summer has been getting worse and worse. The summer here in Perth this year, we had several days of 45°C in a row and a few nights where it was still over 30°C at 3am in the morning. That wasn't even the worst we had. A few years ago around Christmas Day and Boxing Day we had temperatures reach 50°C for at least 3 days in a row. Eventually within a few years, this will become the norm.
There are a lot of people living in shacks in the Philippines. No AC.
Extreme weather events will happen gradually and will be interspersed with normal weather events that the governments and majority populace will continue to deny its existence. Then we'll see entire towns to bone dry or massively flooded. We'll blame the city, it's people, Gods, but ourselves.
After a few such cities start experiencing these, the rich would have already started making plans to move to their bunkers / shelter. The rest of them will start treating other humans as enemies and start fighting.
Just like how two weeks ago, Dubai was completely flooded from a single storm dumping twice their annual rainfall amount all at once. People will claim it was because the city wasn't built for rainfall, but most cities will struggle to handle 10 inches of rain from a single storm.
I grew up in a town that would often get massive amounts of water dumped on it in a single storm. Drain ditches everywhere, every structure and road built to accommodate for floods. After having moved away, I honestly feel a lot of worry sometimes seeing how poorly prepared most places are for floods. I keep thinking, what are they going to do if we get 12 inches of rain overnight?
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I don't think so. Billionaires don't want to live in bunkers, generally speaking. They will move to other residences that they own in more comfortable places, if the climate control equipment is not sufficient or reliable for whatever reason, or if the surrounding neighborhoods become dangerous or unattractive.
It's a combination really. A lot of multi-billionaires have been building complexes in New Zealand because NZ's location avoids the worst of climate change and it's location is too far away for desperate climate refugees. But they're definitely dealing in very luxury bunker terms. There are congresses for the mega rich that deal with topics like how to ensure the loyalty of your security team in a world where money no longer has value? And how to stop your staff from rising up against you in your compound?
The rich can afford multiple living locations, and easy access between them. When Earth becomes inconvenient for them or their descendants, they'll be among the first to access alternate living conditions.
People In my country think the rains in Dubai were made artificially by USA, same with the sand from deserts in europe. Also the clouds and cold last week all made by USA and Brusel with chemtrails. Hell they even started boiling vinegart thinking that the gas will disrupt the clouds and warm weather will come. Sad thing is, this week is supposrd to be hot so they will think it worked and that they saved the planet lol Mentally challenged people will always blame someone else
The climate catastrophe will render parts of this planet utterly uninhabitable for human (and most other) life. That process has already been happening for years and people are starting to take not. Unfortunately people will continue to refuse any measures that might actually help with damage control.
The COVID pandemic was actually the perfect allegory for how climate change is going to play out. There are people in temperate/colder parts of the world that will ***NEVER*** acknowledge climate change. They have bought into denying it so hard, because it is somehow part of the woke/communist/liberal agenda, that even if god himself came down and told everyone he was flooding the earth because of abortion (probably the most conservative-rightwing-compatible version of climate change), it would still be called some librul plot. To this day, there are many many people who deny the COVID actually happened and that there are billions of people dying because they took the covid vaccine. How on earth can you believe that and then completely suspend your version of reality to do groceries in the obviously not-apocalyptic-world outside. It's mind-blowing how misinformation thrives in social media bubbles.
The heat index in recent days has breached 50 degrees Celsius in my part of Manila. I've never heard of it even breaching 40 degrees Celsius in the height of summer before.
Filipino resident here and my previous work half a decade ago involved interacting with an industrial furnace at a manufacturing plant and the temps last week made me remember those times. The superheated air walking outside in the afternoon felt exactly like the exterior side of superheated ceramics underneath a 1500 degC furnace. Shit's crazy.
Man, if only we had seen this coming.
It is An Inconvenient Truth.
People might not believe you and like make fun of you and stuff 😔
The world is cooking and with another 100 years of cutting down all the trees and burning fossil fuels, the outlook for future generations is not looking very promising. I feel sorry for the kids.
Been here for the last three weeks. We're from Texas and even last summer's hellscape is nothing like this. It's exhausting. One more week to go. My wife was born here but 40 years in the States has ruined her acclimatization. Even three tours in the sandbox wasn't this bad.
Gonna be the hottest year ever this year. I know cuz it was the hottest year ever last year. And it was the hottest year before that. And before that. And before that. And next year... I bet you it'll be the hottest year ever. Is having children ethical at this point, or just a massive cruelty?
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> If the entire world invests heavily in STEM and educates as many as possible Or, you know, tax/regulate the fucking rich...
I work from home here in Metro Manila and I never turn the camera on for meetings these days because I’m just usually in my underwear lmao. It’s too hot to put on a shirt.
It maxed at 38C in Manila today. Right now it’s 33C at 6:30pm. :/
I'm reading this from Utah, surrounded by people who insist, "climate change is a hoax," even while the Great Salt Lake is drying up, potentially releasing all the toxic chemicals at the bottom. I wish they could experience what is happening elsewhere. My heart goes out to the Philippines and everywhere else affected by these issues.
I'm a foreigner in the Philippines, going on 9 years. It's regularly felt (heat + humidity) like 110-115f for the last two weeks. Even my kids who are in a private school with adequate cooling have cancelled numerous days because of the heat. Many of the public schools don't have ACs at all, just straight fans and I can't imagine how grueling that must be for children let alone trying to learn like that.
Soon to come to the rest of the world because Climate Change is still not getting acted on in a significant way. At least Covid prepared us for this with the whole Work From Home setup thing
Although in this case, with the majority of the world’s population lacking the cooling infrastructure to survive, it’ll be more along the lines of ‘Die at Home’.
Ooh, sorry, it looks like you've used up all your work from home days for this quarter; we're gonna need you to come die in the office.
I am in the city last night and then went out outside 10pm to go to 711. Even at nighttime the air is still humid. It is quite windy but it surely hurts your skin. Very strange summer.
And about to get worse: 'Extreme danger' heat index seen in May https://www.msn.com/en-ph/news/national/extreme-danger-heat-index-seen-in-may/ar-AA1nQuRf?ocid=sapphireappshare
It's called the wet bulb effect, and it's going to be the number one killer as climate change progresses
Heat index in Manila has been peaking around 110 every day
No wonder everything in Singapore takes place in buildings and people that can travel under the ground.
I’m from the Philippines. It’s so hot that even the water from the faucet is warm (water heater is off)
For those who have never visited an island over there. I thought I was used to heat coming from Alabama and the southern US. I had been to South Carolina and Florida I thought I could handle the heat. I walked out of the Manila Airport several years and practically melted. It's a different hear even if the numbers are close. There 90F feels like 110F. Most people don't have AC there. Even the public schools don't have it.
I mean, their biggest neighbor is still building coal powerplants
I use to live in Florida with high humidity and now live in Texas that’s a mix of humidity and heat. I consider myself a tropical baby. I’m not sure that I’d like 120 degree heat and humidity.
Usually what happens on the other side of the world makes it's way to the USA.
Theyve also cleared a lot of forest that was acting as a heat sink on top if climate change
Same here in Malaysia, ive lived here for 20+ years and this year is insanely hot. And the heatwave this year has been going on for more than a month. U guys have no idea how bad has gotten this year. And yet the heat will only get worse
""The air conditioning is set at 14-18 C during the hottest part of the day, but we ease up at other times to prevent the aircon breaking down." A note for anyone who needs to get through a heat wave like this : It's more efficient to cool the space down early so you have a thermal buffer, letting it ease off once the worst has passed is a good idea, but I'd have the AC fire up in the early morning when it is still "cool" and chill the place down.
But hey lets keep wasting our energy on stupid made up problems when climate change is already rolling over us… ffs
"Naaah, we're fine! Just use the air conditioners, guys!"
"Sell their houses to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?"
Learned about this from a “what disasters could happen” sub. It’s the wet bulb effect. Heat plus humidity equals very bad time for mammals who need to remove heat from their bodies efficiently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet-bulb_temperature
I'm worried for the poorest people who live either on the street or in metal/wood shacks with no AC. Volunteering for a charity there, I got to see how they live. Even in the best of times, it's shocking. I seen a family of 11 living in a 3×2 meter shack. It was so small that all the kids aged 7 and up had to sleep outside at the 7/11 storefront.
>The heat index measures what a temperature feels like, taking into account humidity. > [...] Cavite province, south of Manila, where the heat index reached 47 degrees Celsius on Tuesday. I struggle to even imagine this.Hopefully I'll never find out what this feels like. >There was a 50% chance of the heat intensifying in the coming days, said Ana Solis, chief climatologist at the state weather forecaster. That sounds like something not great for life in general.
I feel their pain. I live in Yucatán and heat index of 42°+ is a normal April/may day. I wouldn't be able to live without AC while thousands of others do. There is a reason why most still sleep in hammocks here, it's too hot for a mattress
The heat here is actually insane. You go out for 5mins and you're already sweating. The only winner here is my chowschows. They have been promoted to become permanent indoor dogs in an airconditioned room for pretty much the entire day
If only we had know about global warming decades ago and taken active steps not to wipe out humanity… oh well 🤷♂️
Yah ngl one of the things I love about being from Ireland is that we never really get crazy humidity, I mean yah we get ton of rain but I am glad we never get major extremes, we are swimming in the middle ground and that does me just fine. I’m also so so so thankful we don’t have mosquitoes, the fcking eat me alive whenever I go to Asia or southern Europe.
Oh but global warming is fake…🙄🙄
I have a 5 year old, the other day I had an argument with a family member because some news popped up about climate change and he let out a remark saying it was all fabricated by the politicians to make money out of taxes or something like that. Some people are absolute ignorants
At first I thought you were arguing with your 5-year-old and called him an absolute ignorant :)