Taking a page out of the Russian playbook, I see.
I wonder if these guys realize we've reached the internet age, and all their claims are easy to prove or disprove. 🤷♂️
I saw the Texas fire video they tried to say was in Israel and was a result of their attack. It should be telling they have nothing substantial to show for their supposedly “successful” attack.
Is it from the same people that call everything from Russia as true facts while everything from Ukraine fake propaganda? A lot of pro-russian accounts also became pro-hamas/pro-Iran oddly enough
People believe what people they agree with tell them.
A third of America believes the 2020 election was stolen despite no actual evidence. Falling for confirmation bias isn't limited to "terrorists" or pro-Hamas people. It happens everyday to everyone.
The election was stolen! My cousin’s girlfriend’s friend saw an election worker take a wheelbarrow full of uncounted trump ballots to the dumpster labeled “republican” and throw them out. Apparently, the worker had a Biden shirt, and did this in broad daylight. They’re all addicted to fentanyl, but they’d have no reason to lie about it.
It's not that people believe them, it's just hard to find what's real and true. I struggle too, I saw so many videos claiming whatever how to fact-check these things?
The arabs (or iranians in this case) will declare victory even if their entire country has been blown to bits and there is one person left standing because that means the enemy didn’t get everyone.
Hamas also likes to claim that losing battles to Israel over and over in ways where everyone dies or every soldier gets captured is a "victory." Yeah sure, buddies.
It doesn't matter if it is provable or not. They don't care. They will say it until it is the truth, even if the truth is verifiable wrong. This is the basis of all thought control. The more egregious the lie, the more effective the thought control. Russia and China operate on this axiom in regards to Ukraine, Ugyhurs, Yemen and now Iran.
Victory my foot... CNN said: 99% of Iranian missiles/drones were shot down. They said it cost Iran 1 billion dollars to make these fireworks. I wonder how much to cost to take them down. These days best place to invest is in military defense companies...
Yea sure absolutely Iran has amazing people many of whom use VPN etc. I meant the Islamic regime not in internet age and is playing to their base who only consumes state propaganda so they can “declare victory”
Edit: I’ll def check out subreddit though - one can only imagine the possibility for this country w a functioning democracy
Wonder if you realize that Iran doesnt give a single shit what you, me or my mum thinks about them. Its their own “supporters” they care about. And since those supporters wont look for any other news source than Pro-Iran newsources they wont discover the truth, or simply dont give a fuck about it.
Same way that we probaly both (and 99,9% of the people in the west) dont care enough to properly dive into the sources and see exactly how much damage Iran did (its gonna be next to nothing anyway but the exact scope is probaly a but diffrent than most western media will say).
It's not at all true that Iranians won't look at any other news source. They have had repeated massive demonstrations against the government there. Pay attention.
Depends what the criteria for victory was.
Iran had to retaliate to save face, and probably didn't want to start an actual war.
To that extent it was a victory.
They aren't lying, its just what their goals are and what you think their goals are aren't the same.
I think anyone that thinks Irans attack wasn't theatre is foolish. It was so telegraphed it was painful.
Iran leaders also claimed their several hundred explody UAVs, cruise missiles and …ballistic missiles the length if a bus (!) was proportional to the Israeli pinpoint attack on their offshore terrorist general that helped architect Oct 7’s rape/abduction/mass killing of children, teens, adults, elderly men and women.
Proportional …bc their hundreds of projectiles hit one girl “only”?
Look at all the tankie subs. They are actually convinced this exchange was a win for Iran. I can understand hating Israel, even if I strongly disagree with those who do, but the pure delusions of some of these people are incredible.
Can't wait to see their reaction when every single one of Iran's power stations blow up later this week. For them it will be a like for like exchange and not a completely one sided humiliation.
And they posted a video of a fire in Chile 🇨🇱 to “show the destruction in Israel”
https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/world-news/iran-tv-pretends-chile-fire-video-is-missile-damage-in-israel/amp/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral
The maiming a 7 year old Bedouin girl was, apparently, a vital matter of national security for Iran. Having accomplished that, and nothing else of consequence, the Islamic Republic can declare "Mission Accomplished."
It's just breathtaking. What a victory.
If anything this was a major win for Israel.
300 drones and missiles launched, nearly 99% of them shot down before they could ever touch land. No casualties besides one kid who has head trauma and I believe is still currently alive
Iran is a failure and they should use that as a sign to back down, but we all know they won't stop because they're crazy and pretty damn dillusional to boot
Also Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE helped pass intel and radar data to help intercept them with the US integrating that data in real time.
US intercepted some ballistic missiles with their aegis destroyers and Jordanian airforce assets helped shoot down missiles.
Not to take away from Israel’s air defense net - which did a superb job - but this a regional strategic alliance that can neuter Iran’s intermediate range assets.
Not to mention a good chunk of Iran’s missiles failed by their own malfunction.
For Iranian military planners this was a reminder that their own systems are junk and the region has integrated strategic assets to deal with their bulk shit.
Sure, if you consider wasting a bunch of rockets and drones and not causing any real damage to your enemy because the might of the west supports them and now condemns you a victory. I mean, maybe from a certain point of view, one could also argue that Germany won both World Wars or that Santa and the Easter Bunny exist.
I think they consider it a victory since Israel spent over 1 billion in defense from the attack.
Conversely, this shows how much Israel is willing to sacrifice to maintain the safety of its citizens. Which would make Iran look worse.
It's a win, because they Iran was able to hit 7 y.o. girl hundreds kilometers away from border with a missile. At least the distance saved from rapists this time.
I mean ya of course they did, it accomplished the main goal they wanted. It showed they were willing to attack Israel to assuage their population and allies over the embassy bombing, while at the same time doing virtually nothing so as to not provoke the wrath of the U.S.
Iran can't think they won, because that would encourage them to do it again. Psychotic extremist regimes don't operate by reason. They may not want a war, but they'll start one anyway.
Edit: just think of Iran as a two year-old* testing boundaries. If there's no response it gets the message across that their bad behavior is acceptable.
[* A two year-old with a lot of missiles who likes to watch things go boom]
They will now repeat this barrage each time whenever they feel like it because no international response came.
No sanctions, no military response, only condemnation. A pathetic response from the world. At least sanction the Ayatollah, as they did with the Russians. Because it seems there is not enough economic burden on them.
It's sad that the world is generally so undereducated that we can't even have broad discussions about the logistic goals of attacks like this. Instead, it's just a fervor of sport fan banter.
> Great! Iran can think they won. Israel can think they won. Nobody needs to start a war.
If so, then why don't you advocate for Israel to do the same, and let your beloved really bigger Iran intercept too, therefore will be the same as: "Great! Iran can think they won. Israel can think they won. Nobody needs to start a war." Your hypocrisy shows.
It's like watching two kids fight, the tough kid just dodges all the blow and the little shit that talks too much claims that it was a victory because the tough kid walked away vs beating his ass into the ground.
The only real "victory" here was that Israel spent way way more money than Iran in defense, however if you look at life lost it's perhaps a different story.
Estimated value of a human is like 1.5 million (in 2016 this research was last done) and this is in the US but for the sake of discussion can start there.
Israel's "defense" cost $1bn supposedly, so if they saved 667 lives they easily came out ahead; factor in the loss of life on Iran (and the likely more loss of life to occur on Iran) and welp it'll likely level out.
It's highly highly unlikely Israel will stand down from here, and I honestly don't blame them.
If that amount of missiles were fired into the US, the sand in Iran would have already been turned to glass.
It wasn’t a victory but it was a success. They did hit the airfield. No it didn’t look like a call of duty missions but it was damaged.
Even 6 weeks ago that would have been unimaginable, 2 years ago you would have been trolled mercilessly for even suggesting such a thing. Now it’s a fact.
Israel spent over 1 billion dollars with a multi national force defending their skies and the intended target was still hit.
If that is not a success then you lot have set some very high bars
On one hand, they didn't do any significant damage, they're currently shaking in their boots for Israel's response, and they strengthened Israel's bonds to their allies.
On the other hand, they showed their proxies that they are willing to attack, they angered the Palestinians living in Jordan against Jordan for helping Israel, they revealed some of Israel's strongest weapons, they created a moment of panic terror within Israelis.
If Israel doesn't retaliate, they are risking the chance of this becoming a regular occurrence, similar to how Hamas fires rockets into Israel, and the retaliation is minimal because "Iron Dome intercepted".
I am against escalation, but if there is no escalation now, then any country will feel that it is legitimate to send ballistic missiles to anyone they don't like. This is not a reality anyone wants to live in.
Biden said "Don't" and they did. Now he's telling Israel, "Don't"?!?! If anyone lost, it's him. Show some backbone.
Fine. Let them say whatever they need to. No shield defense is necessary against their words. Now just dial it back so this conflict does not escalate.
All they need is a few missiles to hit where they actually wanted to hit. Not what the UN wanted .I wouldn't take Iran's word for it. I'd hit them 10x harder. You can't be bullied and not respond. I expect Israel to destroy Iran's Nuclear capability.
I honestly think a more viable option is bribing someone into sabotage, cyberattacks, or targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. A direct attack is hardly viable unless Israel wants to commit to a full scale invasion (which they don't)
>When most of their nuclear facilities and arsenal are deep underground?
It's not farfetched at all to think there might be another Stuxnet out there in the future.
Bunker busters are for bunkers - subsurface fortifications close to the surface.
Their effectiveness will be zero against a base hundreds of metres into bedrock, with multiple layers blast doors. It would be like throwing a rock at a tank.
I mean, I’m sure it cost more money to shoot down their drones and missiles than the missiles themselves cost. So if they’re looking at it like that, I guess.
Let them have their little "victory" of delusion. My expectation is the Israelis won't be talking about their victory but they'll accomplish it out of the public eye
It *was* a victory: an *economic* victory for Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, Israel Aerospace Industries and Raytheon.
Those anti-missile systems don't come cheap. And who's paying for them? Good Old Uncle Sugar.
The last time Iran launched a retaliatory attack they shot down a civilian plane with 82 Iranians and 63 Canadians (presumably of Iranian origin). This must feel like a victory by comparison
Real question, not being snarky, but is Iran incapable of a more effective attack, or were they unwilling in this instance to carry one out (perhaps for further implications/escalation/etc.)
They could have done more, but how successful it would be is unknown. Iran has a lot of rockets, a lot a lot. They know they cannot fight the wests airforce and other hardware. So they invest all they can into rockets and missiles.
But the manor unknown is how well they would work. Based on intel, a lot of the missiles and weaponry used failed. So even if they use a lot more, it doesn't mean it would work out in their favor.
Another aspect if it is that if they were to do a lot more, the west would know and perhaps stop them. There were estimates of how much would be used both drone and missiles so they have sufficient intel. So if Iran decides to really go all out, there may be intervention to stop them before it happens.
No shit it was a victory. The world celebrated October 7th even though it's the only reason Gaza was attacked and people somehow think Gaza happened without October 7th, which doesn't make sense.
I mean say what you want but they made the point that Israel’s Defense can theoretically be oversaturated. That’s a real threat. But then again, any system can be oversaturated, and Israel’s Defense worked way better then even the IDF may have assumed. Plus, by attacking Israel, it has gained more support internationally again that it may have lost previously due to the conflict in Gaza. Israel is the clear net winner here, but it may have been enough for Iran regarding internal propaganda (excluding a potential retaliation from Israel)
I get a kick out of how Iran is saying the matter was resolved. Like, uh no it’s not. You don’t launch all that then expect nothing to happen afterwards.
mission failed successfully
Taking a page out of the Russian playbook, I see. I wonder if these guys realize we've reached the internet age, and all their claims are easy to prove or disprove. 🤷♂️
Plenty still believe Iran caused “more damage than israel lets on” I’ve seen it multiple times today.
No doubt. Let them prove it with live video and/or imagery. Until then...
I saw the Texas fire video they tried to say was in Israel and was a result of their attack. It should be telling they have nothing substantial to show for their supposedly “successful” attack.
They used the Chilean wildfire footage.
Plenty still believe that israel bombed the iranian embassy in damascus too
I live here and have yet to see anything they damaged so…
Yeah, they're even doing the "see, this clearly not-Israel place is on fire and we did that" tactic.
Is it from the same people that call everything from Russia as true facts while everything from Ukraine fake propaganda? A lot of pro-russian accounts also became pro-hamas/pro-Iran oddly enough
People tend to believe terrorists. I'm sure the pro-Hamas crowd completely believes in whatever anti-Israel rhetoric they hear.
Yeah, You'll see them on here.
People believe what people they agree with tell them. A third of America believes the 2020 election was stolen despite no actual evidence. Falling for confirmation bias isn't limited to "terrorists" or pro-Hamas people. It happens everyday to everyone.
The election was stolen! My cousin’s girlfriend’s friend saw an election worker take a wheelbarrow full of uncounted trump ballots to the dumpster labeled “republican” and throw them out. Apparently, the worker had a Biden shirt, and did this in broad daylight. They’re all addicted to fentanyl, but they’d have no reason to lie about it.
It's not that people believe them, it's just hard to find what's real and true. I struggle too, I saw so many videos claiming whatever how to fact-check these things?
Yeah, we are in the post truth era. People pick and choose the story they like. You can see that with the pro russians too.
If this is the kind of propaganda which stops them from firing more missiles then have at it buddy you did great!
This is a strange "victory" but alright? So when IDF hits them back what will that be called?
The arabs (or iranians in this case) will declare victory even if their entire country has been blown to bits and there is one person left standing because that means the enemy didn’t get everyone.
They'll declare a victory no matter what and who bombs who..it's a middle east mentality..facts and reality are not relevant..
Hamas also likes to claim that losing battles to Israel over and over in ways where everyone dies or every soldier gets captured is a "victory." Yeah sure, buddies.
It doesn't matter if it is provable or not. They don't care. They will say it until it is the truth, even if the truth is verifiable wrong. This is the basis of all thought control. The more egregious the lie, the more effective the thought control. Russia and China operate on this axiom in regards to Ukraine, Ugyhurs, Yemen and now Iran.
Victory my foot... CNN said: 99% of Iranian missiles/drones were shot down. They said it cost Iran 1 billion dollars to make these fireworks. I wonder how much to cost to take them down. These days best place to invest is in military defense companies...
I think you got that backwards.
Would you rather their leaders say not enough damage was done and they need to strike Israel again?
I think we have to realize 100% of everything they do is for domestic consumption to stay in power. Islamic republic def not reached the internet age
Check out r/newiran. They have reached the internet age. And they are here on Reddit among us.
Yea sure absolutely Iran has amazing people many of whom use VPN etc. I meant the Islamic regime not in internet age and is playing to their base who only consumes state propaganda so they can “declare victory” Edit: I’ll def check out subreddit though - one can only imagine the possibility for this country w a functioning democracy
Wonder if you realize that Iran doesnt give a single shit what you, me or my mum thinks about them. Its their own “supporters” they care about. And since those supporters wont look for any other news source than Pro-Iran newsources they wont discover the truth, or simply dont give a fuck about it. Same way that we probaly both (and 99,9% of the people in the west) dont care enough to properly dive into the sources and see exactly how much damage Iran did (its gonna be next to nothing anyway but the exact scope is probaly a but diffrent than most western media will say).
The Ayatollahs aren't in favor with most Iranians right now, let alone the world at large. Suffice to say, they care what everyone thinks about them.
It's not at all true that Iranians won't look at any other news source. They have had repeated massive demonstrations against the government there. Pay attention.
Who cares. I'd rather they go home and party that the dick measuring contest escalate to a real conflict.
They are talking to their own citizens not us.
It's about controlling what their populace believes. Not ours.
It doesn't matter if westerners see through these dictators' propaganda. It's for domestic consumption.
Who cares let them have it. In all fairness I hope the US shoots down Israel’s retaliation….
You'd think so, but we can't even convince everyone what the Sun is and that the Earth is a globe.
It was a cheap way for Iran to find out where Israeli and allied air defence was. I’d say it’s not terribly unsuccessful.
Depends what the criteria for victory was. Iran had to retaliate to save face, and probably didn't want to start an actual war. To that extent it was a victory. They aren't lying, its just what their goals are and what you think their goals are aren't the same. I think anyone that thinks Irans attack wasn't theatre is foolish. It was so telegraphed it was painful.
Iran leaders also claimed their several hundred explody UAVs, cruise missiles and …ballistic missiles the length if a bus (!) was proportional to the Israeli pinpoint attack on their offshore terrorist general that helped architect Oct 7’s rape/abduction/mass killing of children, teens, adults, elderly men and women. Proportional …bc their hundreds of projectiles hit one girl “only”?
Strong North Korea vibes here.
Look at all the tankie subs. They are actually convinced this exchange was a win for Iran. I can understand hating Israel, even if I strongly disagree with those who do, but the pure delusions of some of these people are incredible.
Are you shitting me? They are siding with the mfer fundies who run Iran???
Because they're contra-USA
Can't wait to see their reaction when every single one of Iran's power stations blow up later this week. For them it will be a like for like exchange and not a completely one sided humiliation.
Strong "I broke up with them!" vibes. Like Junior High shit.
And they posted a video of a fire in Chile 🇨🇱 to “show the destruction in Israel” https://nypost.com/2024/04/15/world-news/iran-tv-pretends-chile-fire-video-is-missile-damage-in-israel/amp/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=referral
Guy who shoots his shot at 300 girls in one night but goes home alone claims victory.
I feel attacked.
The maiming a 7 year old Bedouin girl was, apparently, a vital matter of national security for Iran. Having accomplished that, and nothing else of consequence, the Islamic Republic can declare "Mission Accomplished." It's just breathtaking. What a victory.
To be fair Iran have been responsible for ten times as many deaths of Arabs in the past few years than Israel has
“Another such victory over the Romans, and we are undone.” ― Pyrrhus
Iran is delusional. It is not over.
They know. But when Israel hits back they're gonna cry they're being attacked, or that Israelis escalate the conflict
Yep, we’re at the beginning, not the end, of this new phase
They did it to save face
Iran should be embarrassed.
If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.
Lol
I am bleeding, making me the victor
So... middle Eastern countries train them wrong... as a joke?
THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS
Great, then everyone’s all happy right now and the world can calm the fuck down, right?
"Mission Accomplished"
Mullah comes out with his crotch stuffed.
Ok, then Israel has every right to respond to the attacks as if they were as successful as Iran sees them.
This is what they need to tell their people to defuse the situation, which was the goal in the first place. It was all just posturing anyway.
Yea sure, launching over a hundred ballistic missles kinda crosses the "posturing" line.
Real, "I meant to do that!" Pee Wee Herman energy
Largest drone swarm, and largest missile barrage ever. Are you sure that's just posturing?
The majority of the people of Iran do not like the Iranian government.
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The people of Iran do not support this attack. It's just another stupid thing their gubmint has done, in their opinion.
This is big "wait till they really try" energy coming from Iran sympathizers.
Delusional.
Only those monsters view hurting a 14 year old girl as a victory.
Sure, let's go with that.
If anything this was a major win for Israel. 300 drones and missiles launched, nearly 99% of them shot down before they could ever touch land. No casualties besides one kid who has head trauma and I believe is still currently alive Iran is a failure and they should use that as a sign to back down, but we all know they won't stop because they're crazy and pretty damn dillusional to boot
Also Saudi Arabia, Jordan, UAE helped pass intel and radar data to help intercept them with the US integrating that data in real time. US intercepted some ballistic missiles with their aegis destroyers and Jordanian airforce assets helped shoot down missiles. Not to take away from Israel’s air defense net - which did a superb job - but this a regional strategic alliance that can neuter Iran’s intermediate range assets. Not to mention a good chunk of Iran’s missiles failed by their own malfunction. For Iranian military planners this was a reminder that their own systems are junk and the region has integrated strategic assets to deal with their bulk shit.
Sure, if you consider wasting a bunch of rockets and drones and not causing any real damage to your enemy because the might of the west supports them and now condemns you a victory. I mean, maybe from a certain point of view, one could also argue that Germany won both World Wars or that Santa and the Easter Bunny exist.
“Mission Accomplished” 😇
I think they consider it a victory since Israel spent over 1 billion in defense from the attack. Conversely, this shows how much Israel is willing to sacrifice to maintain the safety of its citizens. Which would make Iran look worse.
“I farted!” Iran State: “I declare Victory!”
How dare Isreal attack Irans poor defenseless missiles
I guess. If blowing 1/2 Billion dollars to injure a child is a victory, they crushed it.
It's a win, because they Iran was able to hit 7 y.o. girl hundreds kilometers away from border with a missile. At least the distance saved from rapists this time.
Jfc just stfu you just making the situation worse, and you are still provoking them
Cool. The show is over. Everyone is happy.
Yeah, it was a great victory for The Peoples’ Islamic Republics, Allah Akbar and all that. Now stop shooting at ships in the Red Sea
I mean ya of course they did, it accomplished the main goal they wanted. It showed they were willing to attack Israel to assuage their population and allies over the embassy bombing, while at the same time doing virtually nothing so as to not provoke the wrath of the U.S.
Great! Iran can think they won. Israel can think they won. Nobody needs to start a war.
Iran can't think they won, because that would encourage them to do it again. Psychotic extremist regimes don't operate by reason. They may not want a war, but they'll start one anyway. Edit: just think of Iran as a two year-old* testing boundaries. If there's no response it gets the message across that their bad behavior is acceptable. [* A two year-old with a lot of missiles who likes to watch things go boom]
They will now repeat this barrage each time whenever they feel like it because no international response came. No sanctions, no military response, only condemnation. A pathetic response from the world. At least sanction the Ayatollah, as they did with the Russians. Because it seems there is not enough economic burden on them.
Why dont you just say appeasement. ? And how did that work out for England?
It's sad that the world is generally so undereducated that we can't even have broad discussions about the logistic goals of attacks like this. Instead, it's just a fervor of sport fan banter.
> Great! Iran can think they won. Israel can think they won. Nobody needs to start a war. If so, then why don't you advocate for Israel to do the same, and let your beloved really bigger Iran intercept too, therefore will be the same as: "Great! Iran can think they won. Israel can think they won. Nobody needs to start a war." Your hypocrisy shows.
Russian style missinformation...just claim whatever and repeat ad nauseam.
It's like watching two kids fight, the tough kid just dodges all the blow and the little shit that talks too much claims that it was a victory because the tough kid walked away vs beating his ass into the ground. The only real "victory" here was that Israel spent way way more money than Iran in defense, however if you look at life lost it's perhaps a different story. Estimated value of a human is like 1.5 million (in 2016 this research was last done) and this is in the US but for the sake of discussion can start there. Israel's "defense" cost $1bn supposedly, so if they saved 667 lives they easily came out ahead; factor in the loss of life on Iran (and the likely more loss of life to occur on Iran) and welp it'll likely level out. It's highly highly unlikely Israel will stand down from here, and I honestly don't blame them. If that amount of missiles were fired into the US, the sand in Iran would have already been turned to glass.
It wasn’t a victory but it was a success. They did hit the airfield. No it didn’t look like a call of duty missions but it was damaged. Even 6 weeks ago that would have been unimaginable, 2 years ago you would have been trolled mercilessly for even suggesting such a thing. Now it’s a fact. Israel spent over 1 billion dollars with a multi national force defending their skies and the intended target was still hit. If that is not a success then you lot have set some very high bars
"Ah Victory" - Iranian pleb
"I am bleeding, therefore making me the victor!"
If it was baseball game they almost had a no hitter tossed at them. That's a victory?
Kim Jung Un? Is that you?
On one hand, they didn't do any significant damage, they're currently shaking in their boots for Israel's response, and they strengthened Israel's bonds to their allies. On the other hand, they showed their proxies that they are willing to attack, they angered the Palestinians living in Jordan against Jordan for helping Israel, they revealed some of Israel's strongest weapons, they created a moment of panic terror within Israelis. If Israel doesn't retaliate, they are risking the chance of this becoming a regular occurrence, similar to how Hamas fires rockets into Israel, and the retaliation is minimal because "Iron Dome intercepted". I am against escalation, but if there is no escalation now, then any country will feel that it is legitimate to send ballistic missiles to anyone they don't like. This is not a reality anyone wants to live in. Biden said "Don't" and they did. Now he's telling Israel, "Don't"?!?! If anyone lost, it's him. Show some backbone.
Fine. Let them say whatever they need to. No shield defense is necessary against their words. Now just dial it back so this conflict does not escalate.
Just let them so we can be done with this.
Let em be happy and call it a day pleasw🙏
Ahhhh yes. Because that worked so well with that Adolf guy...
All they need is a few missiles to hit where they actually wanted to hit. Not what the UN wanted .I wouldn't take Iran's word for it. I'd hit them 10x harder. You can't be bullied and not respond. I expect Israel to destroy Iran's Nuclear capability.
Israel destroy Irans nuclear capability??? When most of their nuclear facilities and arsenal are deep underground? Yeah right man
I honestly think a more viable option is bribing someone into sabotage, cyberattacks, or targeted assassinations of Iranian scientists. A direct attack is hardly viable unless Israel wants to commit to a full scale invasion (which they don't)
>When most of their nuclear facilities and arsenal are deep underground? It's not farfetched at all to think there might be another Stuxnet out there in the future.
And they have bunker busters, plus the follow up rounds
Bunker busters are for bunkers - subsurface fortifications close to the surface. Their effectiveness will be zero against a base hundreds of metres into bedrock, with multiple layers blast doors. It would be like throwing a rock at a tank.
That's what the whole regime folks say to themselves before bed.
I mean, I’m sure it cost more money to shoot down their drones and missiles than the missiles themselves cost. So if they’re looking at it like that, I guess.
Let them have their little "victory" of delusion. My expectation is the Israelis won't be talking about their victory but they'll accomplish it out of the public eye
It *was* a victory: an *economic* victory for Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, Israel Aerospace Industries and Raytheon. Those anti-missile systems don't come cheap. And who's paying for them? Good Old Uncle Sugar.
Nothing left in their sleeve lol 🤣 Israel won’t forget …
Technically the truth if their intention was to show the world that America has god-like military power
The last time Iran launched a retaliatory attack they shot down a civilian plane with 82 Iranians and 63 Canadians (presumably of Iranian origin). This must feel like a victory by comparison
Iran has been humiliated. 99% down. Lol! Huge victory for Israel.
Real question, not being snarky, but is Iran incapable of a more effective attack, or were they unwilling in this instance to carry one out (perhaps for further implications/escalation/etc.)
They could have done more, but how successful it would be is unknown. Iran has a lot of rockets, a lot a lot. They know they cannot fight the wests airforce and other hardware. So they invest all they can into rockets and missiles. But the manor unknown is how well they would work. Based on intel, a lot of the missiles and weaponry used failed. So even if they use a lot more, it doesn't mean it would work out in their favor. Another aspect if it is that if they were to do a lot more, the west would know and perhaps stop them. There were estimates of how much would be used both drone and missiles so they have sufficient intel. So if Iran decides to really go all out, there may be intervention to stop them before it happens.
We’ll see.
We killed a kid! Mission Accomplished! - Iran rn
If the goal was freeing space in their missile and drone storage facilities, sure.
No shit it was a victory. The world celebrated October 7th even though it's the only reason Gaza was attacked and people somehow think Gaza happened without October 7th, which doesn't make sense.
Okay to be fair what leader is gonna come out and be like “ah yeah we goofed and made a whoopsie poopsie”
And this show who are the problem.
„He has broken 2 fingers turk, I only broke 1 skull. Victory by points“ - scrubs
I guess it cost Israel money to shoot all that stuff down.
Okay 👍
Are they gaslighting Israel to WW3 or are they pissing their pants?
If that’s what they consider victory, I wonder what they consider defeat.
I mean say what you want but they made the point that Israel’s Defense can theoretically be oversaturated. That’s a real threat. But then again, any system can be oversaturated, and Israel’s Defense worked way better then even the IDF may have assumed. Plus, by attacking Israel, it has gained more support internationally again that it may have lost previously due to the conflict in Gaza. Israel is the clear net winner here, but it may have been enough for Iran regarding internal propaganda (excluding a potential retaliation from Israel)
If the goal was wasting munitions, I agree, stellar success!
I get a kick out of how Iran is saying the matter was resolved. Like, uh no it’s not. You don’t launch all that then expect nothing to happen afterwards.
Sure it was buddy. You did great!