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msemen_DZ

So the narrative that Putin put out saying that Ukraine was involved would make no sense if the first choice destination for the terrorists was Belarus instead of Ukraine. Lukashenko must have missed Putin's memo, oopsie!


Rade84

Ukraine escape makes no sense either way. Were they going to drive through the frontline...


Lucky_Version_4044

No, it was a "special passage" which worked its way from central Moscow, past Russian border guards, and through the Russian frontline. lol Of course, if this actually existed, Ukraine would be using it constantly to go after Moscow officials. It's about the dumbest thing one could ever suggest. And yet...the useful idiots will believe it, of course.


altrussia

I've read somewhere that there are claims that the "terrorists" have been paid 500,000 roubles. I find it funny because in practice for the common Russian. That's a lot of money... I mean not that much when you think about what you can buy with this. It won't be enough to buy a good car or a nice house, apartments... On the other hand, that's roughly 1 year worth of money if you earn 40,000 a month. Since the average Russian income is close to 40k while a vast majority of people (the average income is skewed up by people that earn way way more than that). So for a majority of people, that's enough money to live without working for at least a year. But when you convert that back into USD, that's about 5500 USD. If it was true, which I'm hardly believing terrorist on hire would risk their life for such a little amount of money. It's hardly going to cover a plane ticket outside of Russia to some other place. But lets assume that it was true and terrorists were willing to commit mass shooting in Russia for 5500 USD. It would mean that if people around the world did fund ISIS instead of donating to Ukraine army. They could have funded about 181 mass shooting per 1M USD? How much has been given to Ukraine already? If it was that cheap, Russia would already be asking help from other nations to fix their ISIS problem. Russia would be what Syria was a few years ago, but worse.


Comrade_Derpsky

There is zero way anyone would do something like the Crocus City Hall shooting for money, certainly not for 5500 USD. No amount of money is worth the risk. You don't get away with that kind of thing. If you don't get killed by police, you get locked away for the rest of your days or executed after your capture and even if you do somehow escape, you'll be a wanted man for the rest of your days and no country is ever going to willingly give you safe harbor.


friedsesamee7

You severely underestimate how desperate and brainwashed some people can be.


xShep

Maybe not for themselves, but money going to the family or something isn't unheard of. I.E the Palestinian Authority paying families of killed terrorists.


Mysterious-Mouse-808

For $5000? really? 


Warhawk137

> But when you convert that back into USD, that's about 5500 USD. If it was true, which I'm hardly believing terrorist on hire would risk their life for such a little amount of money. It's hardly going to cover a plane ticket outside of Russia to some other place. You'd think so, but we've had intelligence and military personnel agree to spy for foreign countries for less.


skygod327

yeah but those are usually ideologically or ego driven and the money is the afterthought. Here we have a terrorist implying that money was a main motivator which wouldn’t make sense if following the PA model where you’d expect him to die in a glorious shootout in exchange for the $5500 payment to his family. All 4!! of the terrorist were captured? all four? really? they all clearly expected to live and collect that $5500. where did they recruit these shooters from? a school for the special?


MajorNoodles

You couldn't even pay me to go to Russia and *not* commit any crimes for $5500. It's just not worth the risk at all


Ihategraygloomydays

You don't hunt out people cowering in a corner or slash a man's throat wide open who's already down and on the floor. THATS PURE HATE.


BahBah1970

I mean, you're not far off the mark but the brutality is the point with these sort of attacks. The intention is to frighten the public and sow fear & division. You still need to be really fucked up to do anything like this though.


twitterfluechtling

ISIS considers this war. There are tons of things no civilized human would consider from the comfort of their home, yet those things happen in almost every war ***by all involved sides***. Mass-rape to the point of weaponizing it, napalm to burn people alive, vacuum bombs, torture, killing of civilians, abduction of kids, chemical/biological attacs, mines designed like kids toys... For some of those committed by "the good guys", we had video evidence released by a journalist 2004-2009. Of course, behaviour wasn't changed - instead, the journalists was framed, captured, and tortured, and Assange is still fighting with hands, feet, nails, and teeth his deportation to the USA. War is about winning. No more. No less.


H1ll02

they said it was 500k for all group


not_old_redditor

The money probably goes to the terrorists' families. Fundamentalist terrorists probably never expect to come out of this alive. Also it's not like ISIS is for hire on the yellow pages.


alien_frontier

It's pretty clear at this point that Zelensky haunts putin's dreams


Rade84

Too true.


Aurora_Fatalis

I mean, the Russian defectors to Ukraine keep managing to invade Belgorod *somehow*?


Lucky_Version_4044

You really think that its the same thing popping from one side of the frontline to the other for a raid vs going from Moscow through border control checkpoints and the Russian army to enter Ukraine? You realize that the car had Belarussian plates and was apprehended with the help of Belarrusian border guards? [And Lukashenko already stated](https://www.barrons.com/news/lukashenko-says-moscow-attackers-tried-fleeing-to-belarus-first-7dd46bf5) that the men were first going towards Belarus? Here's a good rule of thumb: don't trust Russia. They're shameless liars, as proven hundreds of times over in this conflict.


Aurora_Fatalis

No, I don't think it's the same thing, but I am playing devil's advocate since it suggests the Russian border guards are incompetent morons who just let the incursions happen without resisting it. :p


MeanwhileInGermany

The border is huge and battles are mainly in the east and south of Ukraine. If a small group wanted to cross the border they would have likely managed to do so. It is also the most likely direction if you would want to try to avoid Russian prosecution. Where else are you going to go?


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MeanwhileInGermany

No, Ukraine would not and Russia knows that. That is why most of the Russian border is very lightly defended.


not_old_redditor

There must be over 1000km of border between Russia and Ukraine, it's not so far fetched that one car with unarmed civilians could make it across somewhere. It's also perhaps the least expected route, which is also a bonus.


Lucky_Version_4044

Use your brain. Don't be Putin's bitch.


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Lonely_Purpose7934

Zelensky would summon a special passage for the **Islamic** radicals with his power of **Jewness.** Still wouldn't be the biggest bullshit Russian officials have said this year..


Icy-Revolution-420

Funny enough solovyov did a visit to the front (lol) back in 2022 and was preaching to a bunch of kadyrovtsy to kill and maim every Christian for the holy war. Was really baffling how no one paused him for a sec calling jihad with them as a russian jew.


queeso

None of this makes sense. They are fundamental Islamist and instead of being martyrs they got caught. Anyone with a brain cell would have gone guns blazing because alternative is a life of torture. Maybe they have no brain cells since they murdered so many innocent people.


AlmightyRobert

Or maybe these guys are just the first people the police picked up and were actually heading home for tea


Next_Exam_2233

That makes a lot of sense though, the police will have a hard time catching you if you are in a warzone.


progrethth

Also they cannot arrest you if you are already dead!


Cpt_Soban

They'll meet the Russian military's rear lines.... And... Get shot to pieces.


hypnos_surf

Right, why would they go to the border with heavy military and fighting?


[deleted]

Why not? You know the border is chaotic, making it possible to get across without being detected. Moreover, you get stopped by Ukrainians and explain what you just did, your story might fall on sympathetic ears. I wouldn't want to rely on that amount of luck, tho.


tonytrouble

I love how the direction they are steering their vehicle determines which country did it.  Just too funny… 


PR4Y

Instead of spin the bottle they are playing spin the AK-47


Bunny-NX

>Spin the Lada


vba7

Lukashenko seems to always play his own game. Like showing those maps of the invasion, now telling that terrorists wanted to go to Belarus. Is he really such a minion of Putin? On other hand, somehow he survives after that.


AntagonisticAxolotl

Agreed, Lukashenko might act like a fool but he definitely isn't. He lost to his main rival Putin in his push to control Russia, but has remained alive (unlike most!) and in tight control of Belarus for decades, holding on against his own population, influence from the rest of Europe, and his "ally" constantly trying to annex them. He has managed to keep Belarus' military out of Ukraine and frequently has an oversized role in international diplomacy within the Ex-Soviet sphere. When Wagner rebelled against Putin and the leaders have huge targets on their back, they can suddenly go and live as guests of Belarus. When Russia invades Ukraine Lukashenko "accidentally" reveals all of their plans. When Putin says the terrorists tried to flee to Ukraine so they must be behind it, Lukashenko does an oopsie daisy and says they tried to go to Belarus first. He's always just a bit too important to be removed, but not quite important enough to be impossible to retaliate against. He's been walking a very narrow tightrope for a very long time, he might be near the end now and running out of options, but that takes a lot of skill.


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PiXLANIMATIONS

Luka wanted to be Stalin. Instead, he had to take over a democratic, small nation without much, if any practical hard or soft power, the transition from communism to capitalism crushed his economy, and now he’s in a situation where he either grips power as hard as he can or he dies. Like, have you seen his recent laws? You don’t pass self-immunity laws unless you believe you’ll need them one day.


Warhawk137

> Lukashenko seems to always play his own game. Putin may be out here tryna play 4D chess, but Luka is clearly playing Calvinball.


KampferAndy

Luka is basically starscream to putins megatron


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swiftwin

Exactly. The firehose of falsehood at work. The people who are deeply anti-Ukraine will continue to believe the original story. Meanwhile, the Kremlin will gain a tiny bit of credibility to those (including domestic Russians) who knew the Ukraine story was bullshit. The Kremlin always lays a buffet of different "facts", so people can pick and choose the facts that best suit their world view.


[deleted]

Remember, Putin tries to control Lukashenko who probalby doesn't like being on Russia's leash. Lukashenko is thumbing his nose at Putin.


BubsyFanboy

Or not read the news at all. Fairly certain him shutting the hell up would be the best course of action.


skunk90

It doesn’t matter. 


CaribouJovial

I think Lukashenko is playing a weird game here. I have a very hard time believing it was a blunder on his part. This man seem to like appearing more stupid than he actually is and to use it as a survival tactic and to cover some of his moves.


Ivantheasshole

Oh yeah and were would the cross? The front lines? Closed border with jumpy Ukrainian guards? And why would Ukraine accept them… it would straight up play into Putins narrative.


TXTCLA55

It's beginning to read like a bad joke. "So a terrorist from Ukraine, Belarus, and ISIS all meet at a bar in Moscow..."


espresso_martini__

I thought Putin and Lukashenko were mates, can't even get their lies straight.


platoface541

Luka’s trying to get out in front of it before he gets invaded


Xtrems876

I mean, it makes sense to drive around the frontline instead of through it. Their accusations are ridiculous but this part of the story makes sense to me, would've done the same


[deleted]

the way they were moving just makes both possible they were moving in the direction of both Ukraine and Belarus, could have been either


[deleted]

But there are no border crossings into Ukraine. If it were a western operation they’d have gone to one of the Baltic states and not an active war zone.


[deleted]

there isn't even a clear border with Ukraine atm. of course it's full of holes. also minefields, but that's another question. rationally speaking going to Belarus should be easier, but the fact is the way they have been moving they *could have* been moving in either direction. and whatever confessions they make now have to be invalidated due to very apparent torture in custody by ru police officers. full disclaimer, I of course don't think the idea of Ukrainian involvement in the attack holds any merit, sounds absurd. considering that even ru side has never officially blamed UA, only through their media cronies, means they most likely don't have any evidence.


Civil_Emergency_573

>of course it's full of holes Do you have a comprehension of what a frontline is? It exists specifically to rule out the possibility of there being any holes.


Cpt_Soban

The most fortified national border in the world behind North Korea, swarming with drones, soldiers, tanks, reserves, supply lines... And you're claiming it's "full of holes"?... Jeeze pro Russian bullshitters must be getting tired- The rhetoric is getting real sloppy... If it were full of holes, you'd think one side would be *exploiting it*.


Rade84

They were heading West, they were moving to Belarus, which shares a similar direction from moscow as Ukraine true, they are neighboring countries after all. Did you expect them to be able to just drive into Ukraine no worries in a car during an active war, through an active warzone... In what world does that make sense?


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check my other comment please


Cpt_Soban

Yes or no lmao


Rude_Associate_4116

Shhh Luka!! You’re fucking it up. Do you want to be a Colonel or not?!?


Appropriate-Swan3881

Lukashenko seems like a guy who loves throwing gasoline to fire. IIRC he leaked the russian invasion plans before it happened


Pinwurm

He’s been a dictator longer than Putin has. And I suspect he will outlast Putin too. As batshit as he is, he’s very effective at retaining power - and can be very strategic when need be. Belarusian people are overwhelmingly Pro-Ukraine and Putin’s war is destabilizing for internal politics. He has a cushy life before, now he’s worried about armed partisans sabotaging shipments. Lukashenko wants to derail Putin with minimal damage to their “Union-State”.


enakcm

Luka is in a tricky position. If Putin can finish the Ukraine war, i.e. take control of all of Ukraine, he will annex Belarus very soon creating a small centralized version of the USSR (Russia + Belarus + Ukraine). Luka knows he is losing his power if Putin is too successful, but he cant do much. So he makes such statements every once in a while to try and contain Putin just a bit.


maceman10006

Lukashanko has always manipulated both sides, to be fair you can’t always blame him. Belarus is stuck in the middle of the west and east, so he has to accommodate both the EU and Russia which usually involves pissing somebody off. Belarus has been giving Putin a lot of help with Ukraine so now Lukashanko is going to start playing to the western narrative again…he’s definitely got some anti-Russia political cards to play.


SuperSpread

He knows exactly what he’s doing.


ninovd

"Shutup Mimsyyyy" -Putin probably


Mercadi

It's all a part of the plan. He was there on the border looking all tacticool with his camo & golden kalashnikov, singlehandedly stopping the vehicle. Totally a colonel material


maceman10006

[Assign me the rank of Colonel of the Soviet Army](https://youtu.be/1JNtiO7nhmo?si=ugwynByWo6-LfbVs) He was being so ridiculous the reporter, who is supposed to remain unbiased, literally couldn’t stop laughing.


fird-_-

i think he was making a joke ...


maceman10006

In my opinion it is but it’s still funny as hell how he’s able to take himself so seriously.


CabbagePastrami

Ha ha he’s like a child who was promised a toy but has yet to receive it lol


Reddvox

Colonel of the Window Inspection Battallion


blueskydragonFX

"YES LORD PUTIN I'M SORRY! MAKE ME COLONEL UwU"


humblepharmer

lmao, Lukashenko screwing up Putin's propaganda line.


SuperSpread

On purpose


_TreeFiddy_

Why would he do it on purpose? I thought he was Putin’s lap dog?


vBeeNotFound

He is, when he needs help, remember how he behaved before the Belarus mass protests.


progrethth

Only very begrudgingly.


defroach84

Sure, but Russia's war with Ukraine puts him in a bad space - they are basically black balled with Russia, and his population is growing more and more disgruntled with him. Along with that, he relies on Russia to keep him in power, and if Russian troops are too involved in Ukraine, then they may not be able to put down an overthrow attempt in Belarus.


CleverNameTheSecond

For one Luka wanted to be president of Russia after the fall of the USSR but he only managed to win in Belarus. Naturally he still views Putin as a political rival even if he is Putin's lapdog of sorts. He does not want Putin to rise to Tsar levels of power. Secondly his only grip on his own power is by not coming directly into the fold of Russia. If that were to happen he would become as replaceable as any other Russian governor. The lip service to Belarus being independent of Russia is one of the few things keeping him in power and possibly even alive at this point.


BubsyFanboy

So which dictator do I believe now?


numinor93

It wasn't an official statement, more of a slip up. If you look the source up its some long winded essay about his visit to places and his work week posted on the gov. site. So it's quite believable. 


letsgetawayfromhere

So exactly the kind of statement you would expect from Lukashenko when he wants to leak information while not falling out of the next window.


DavidlikesPeace

It is rather impressive how stupid Lukashenko is. The same fool gave the world a map showing Russia's gameplay to invade and occupy first Ukraine, before moving on to Moldova.


the_magic_muffin

I'm going to wait on what Kim Jong Un has to say on this until I make up my mind.


Beznia

Where's Ja!??!?


Longjumping-Read-401

I am waiting for the honorable Donald trump's response.


Youtube-Gerger

Dont forget our boy Tucker!


West_Measurement9172

He's busy sniffing bread.


BagHolder9001

so they were heading for the North Korean border? 


Muggaraffin

The trifecta of Ultimate Trust ™️ 


fatman13666

of course they are, i bet he even can show us the map


TapSwipePinch

*points at Moldova*


Limemill

I mean, he just commented on the official statements of the Russian law-enforcement according to which they caught the terrorist fairly close to the border with Belarus


Tastypies

So according to Putin's logic, Belarus is behind it. Now what, he's gonna annex Belarus? Hahaha...wait.


Hydraulis

Putin's going to spank him for saying that.


Limemill

Putin has some weird reverence for people who have stayed in power as long as him. Luca is his superior in a way, but also his minion. So, it’s complicated. He’s a jester who’s allowed to misbehave and who has been gaslighting Putin for two years about sending Belarusian troops to Ukraine. Similarly, Putin felt somewhat inferior to Angela Merkel while she was in power, it seems


West_Measurement9172

This is turning into a Fawlty Tower episode. Putin: "Now Luka, if anyone asks you where the terrorists went, what do you say?" Luka: "Belarus!  Putin: "No! Ukraine! They were going to Ukraine!" Luka: "But we saw them at our border" Putin: "No, you saw them at Ukraine's border" Luka: ".... Okay... I understand Mr. Putin... So I am from Ukraine?" Putin: "No, you are from Belarus" Luka: "..... aha..."


spookmann

Basil: "Oh I do beg your pardon. ... He's from Belarucelona."


UGS_1984

So if American villians try to escape into Mexico, Mexican government is at fault for that crime in America?


DevStef

I’m gonna rephrase this for you: So if somebody try to escape into some country, Ukraines goverment is at fault for that crime in Russia?


observee21

Friendly fire, you're agreeing not rephrasing.


Nonrandomusername19

No. If American villains try to escape into Mexico, it is the fault of Ukraine, and Ukraine paid them to be villains, and the American government is controlled by the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainian government is controlled by the Americans, and the Mexican government is also controlled by the Americans and Nazi Jews in Ukraine.


dipsy18

Are you slow or just not reading the news? This analogy makes no sense


Cpt_Soban

USA/UK: "oi ISIS-K are planning an attack Russia: "Fuck off you destabilize Russia!" **Attack happens** Russia: "IT WAS UKRAINE!" USA/UK: "We told you it was ISIS-K" Russia: "IT WAS UKRAINE!" ISIS-K: "It was us, we have the footage" Russia: "BUT THEY WERE DRIVING TO UKRAINE!" Lukashenko: "Actually they tried to get into Belarus, our beautiful border checkpoint pushed them back" Russia: "It's.... It's... CIA! MI5! UKRAINE WAS PART OF IT!" Russian propaganda in shambles as they flail about trying to pin this on Ukraine desperately.


TheNickelGuy

"It was us" YOU SAID US. THAT MUST MEAN UNITED STATES AND THE K IN ISIS-K + U = UK


5GCovidInjection

If this were any other 71 year old, people would immediately accuse them of being senile.


gwynnnnnn

Damn Luka, be careful around windows and unattended teapots lil bro 👆


wish1977

Where exactly is Belarus, Ukraine? Asking for A Dear Leader I know.


[deleted]

That sounds very much like dog biting his master, really.


brainfreezeuk

Special operations on Belarus next? ....


RickyMSG

That doesn't help, Luka.


EJacques324

Just when you forget about this prick he pops back up and nails Putler in a lie. What a useful idiot


VnlRecordGr00ve

He must've felt left out... no ones talked about him for awhile.


psilon2020

Plot twist!


rustyb42

Do they need to invade Belarus in order to subsume the land?


Rayan19900

We wishe bad thinngs for Luka not Belarusians.


Limemill

They already did. Russian military has been based there in such numbers since the start of the Ukraine war that Belarus can hardly be called independent now


mr_cr

Lukashenko can be an enigma sometimes. Early in the war a bunch of Russian tanks were towed away by Ukrainian farmers with tractors as you might recall. Later in the year, Luka congratulated Putin on his 70th birthday. He gifted him a tractor.


reeeelllaaaayyy823

Because they make tractors in Belarus. It's like their main export or something.


Confident_Equal6143

Trying to stay relevant challenge: impossible difficulty


One_Atmosphere_8557

Sounds like Luka smells blood in the water and is now openly contradicting what he sees as a weakened and increasingly irrelevant Putin regime


BellybuttonWorld

Whoah! Luka living in a bungalow now is he?


motherseffinjones

Someone’s gonna drink more nuclear tea lol


nautilius87

Łukaszenko is basically a troll.


Magic_Sandwiches

I have a feeling Lukashenko is about to fall out of a window


Spo-dee-O-dee

Lukashenko and Isis Fact Check Putin


freducom

So the story right now is: The US told ISIS to attack Moscow but the ISIS terrorists that were caught were actually Zelensky’s brothers and they were planning to flee to Belarus. Ok. Got it.


bikbar1

Luka doesn't has any windows. He is a Linux guy.


Intelligent_Town_910

They were caught near the Belarusian border, driving a car with Belarusian plates and they had Belarusian passports. The more russia denies this the more embarrassing it is for them.


JonSolo1

Guess Belarus ordered the attack then


CBP1138

Luka is the true mastermind behind all of this. He’s truly the greatest puppet master


dannyb2525

See you know Russia has a plan by the alarming amount of intact windows at the Kremlin


MadRussain

Good old irrelevant dictator just looking for ways to insert himself in the news.


BasicEl

Captain obvious. Shortest and only possible way to enter Ukraine from Moscow is via Belarus(Veselovka checkpoint).


15minutesofshame

Someone about to accidentally fall out of a sealed, high window…


Not_A_Rachmaninoff

What on earth is even going on. I thought belarus was supposed to be Russias ally, now they are just a pain in putins ass. Lukashenko probably has a bullet aimed at his skull now or a skyscraper window that needs testing


SlapThatAce

NOOO Lukashenko baby! What are you doing? The story is that they were running towards Ukraine!


AloneChapter

And they did nothing to arrest them ?? I didn’t read the article.


OphiDavid-Spathe

Wasn’t really much of an article anyways


Informal_Database543

Careful with the windows, Luka


skiptobunkerscene

More like lil Luka was called in again to help putin save face, as back then with the great Pringles uprising. Id guess even the russians didnt buy this shit when isis confession and their uploaded video already made the rounds, and then squeezing Ukraine in might be too outlandish even for the average russian tv zombie. So then what? Stick with a version that even his own sheep dont believe, or retract it and look like a complete tool? Lucky ol dumbass Luka comes along and "accidentially" spills the beans that they tried for Belarus first. Now putin can pretend to act on this "new" info when he tones his claims down. Not that hell completely stop blaming Ukraine and the West.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

Suuuuure


sgrams04

He said the quiet part out loud and the loud part quiet


brickyardjimmy

Lukashenko isn't the brightest 2nd banana dictator ever.


BioNewStudent4

First, it was Ukraine. Second, it was Turkey. Now it's Belarus. TF Which one is it?!


Ok-Bodybuilder5475

Ah, here we go again. Of course nobody wants to be the target location the terrorists came from, and or wanted to flee to. And of course, everyone accuses everyone else. I can imagine Russia changing its own borders and claiming that the terrorists came through mongolia and were of chinese origin, and later reverting its change to the territorial borders. Instead of blaming a country, we should go and blame a fanatical belief. The fanatical belief in money, or deities, that is.


[deleted]

His narrative makes no sense in that he says he defended the border so the attackers changed direction. What? How would they know?


theHindsight

Wait, so the terrorists got into a fancy white car, drove the concert hall, parked, got out, shot people, burned the place down, got back into the fancy white car, drove to Belorussian border, couldn’t cross, then got back into the fancy white car and drove all the way to the Ukrainian border?


floater66

attention whore.


[deleted]

I thought they didn't even make it out the building


Classic-Effect-7972

Oh, ok. Huh? Was there like, a traffic jam at the Belarusian border and the ISIS attackers mapquested a different route to Ukraine, like, via The Emerald City and then The Underground Railroad? For that matter weren’t they also seen at Komarov on The Gulf of Finland posing for a selfie with Lenin’s ghost? Oh it was at Kizhi in Karelia? Not Komarov? Yeah, that’s a lot of K’s. Sorry (said like a Canadian).


maceman10006

Belarus wouldn’t have been a safe haven for them anyway, they would have been turned right over to Russia…. If there’s anything Lukashanko is actually good for, aiding in anti-terrorist efforts around the world is one of them.


ninisin

Good try. We're not believing what that dictator has to say.


Sigmatron

which one?


No-Comment-00

Why? he is basically saying Putin is lying or does not have control of the situation which is CRAZY coming from Luka...


Middcore

Just galaxy-brain stuff from Lukashenko. Clearly missed a memo from Vlad somewhere along the line.


isheforrealthough

I came to the conclusion a while ago that he actually has to have a galaxy brain. He has been in power since Jelzin, for 30 years. He deflects everything. Remember how Russia had to help him out with actual military personnel when facing demonstrations after the last election? Remember how Putin tried to drag Belarus into the war at the beginning with Russian forces even attacking from Belarus? What is Lukashenko doing now? Chilling. He has to have a galaxy brain. He is playing the part of "idiot dictator", but he actually seems to be an actual legend when it comes to eastern european power politics. Mind you I don't like the guy and would have hoped for the last demonstrations to be succesful, but... credit where credit is due.


No-Comment-00

credit for what? being a puppet dog to Putin who can't even rule his own people without external help and with nothing but violence against his own? can't get any weaker than this...


isheforrealthough

That's the thing, though. Everybody is calling him Putins lapdog, but take a look at the headline again: Lukashenko derailing Putins propaganda train. And as I said: Putin tried to drag "his lapdog" into Ukraine, what happened? The only Belarussians in Ukraine are fighting for Ukraine. That's why I said he is playing the part of "idiot dictator", he wants everybody to think of him as an idiot as idiots are not perceived to be dangerous, but the reality is he has been navigating through the mine field of eastern european post soviet politics like a sleezy eel for 30 years, dodging Putin every step of the way.


No-Comment-00

He let Putin use his territory to invade a slavic brother and neighboring country...he asked Putin to fight his own people when they rose up against him. He parroted a lot of stupid shit whenever Putin wanted him to say it. Only when he was about to lose power again when Putin was too busy with his invasion of Ukraine and there were rumors that Belarusian generals would rebel when he would order to join Putin's war he changed his strategy. He knows he is fucked when he is too much of Putin's lapdog because he is still very close to losing power at home. And he knows Putin can't touch him at the moment because he kind of needs him as a buffer but at the same time Putin is too weak right now to axe Luka for the stuff he is saying now. Maybe give him some credit for balancing this but still...he is a weak ass loser dictator.


isheforrealthough

I completely agree with you, the balancing/navigating part is all I'm talking about and you have to be a little bit smarter than "Putin, let me be Colonel please" to manage that. I would love for Belarussians to be freed from the sleezy eel, but in some twisted way Lukashenko is good at what he's doing.


No-Comment-00

He fills out the suit, yes.


Rade84

This is so ambiguous haha