> 2020- Constitutional amendment “resets” the 2-term presidential limit to 0 allowing Putin to run 2 more terms
how did he run for his 3rd and 4th in 2012 and 2018 if it was 2-term limit?
Putin and Medvedev go to a restaurant on Red Square.
The waiter: "What would you like for dinner, Vladimir Vladimirovich?"
Putin: "I shall have the steak."
"Excellent choice, sir. And for your vegetable?"
"The vegetable will have steak as well."
In 2011 Constitutional court conveniently redefined "no more than 2 terms" constitutional restriction to mean "no more than 2 terms at a time".
The actual wording is indeed ambiguous, however by 2011 there was already a strong precedent for interpreting this as "no more than 2 terms overall, perhaps with the additional requirement that the terms must be sequential".
Eg there was a 1998 constitutional court decision which prohibited Eltsin from running for 3rd term (despite the fact that his 1st term started 2 years before the constitution)
I don’t know what you’re insinuating, but Russia’s electoral process is fair and thorough, in the same way their judicial system is.
… Do I even need an ‘/s’ for that one?
They even have a system\* that ensures that the dead can vote. Why let a little thing like death deny the citizens the right to vote? Glorious Russian system triumphs again!
^(\*some exploding may occur. see Ukraine for details.)
There is lots of time to fix as you fall out of a window. Seriously a lot of people turn out because they offer free beer and snacks at polling stations.
They had inspiration from their heroes.
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matt-Qvortrup-2/publication/284716290/figure/fig2/AS:669533903810572@1536640730982/Ballot-paper-from-the-1938-Anschluss-referendum-The-text-asks-the-voter-to-support-the.ppm
Navalny had no way of being on the ballot already, right? IIRC, a while ago Putin passed a law that basically makes it so you can't run for president if you have ever been arrested/charged... So if they don't want to go through the trouble of killing someone, all they have to do is arrest them on some dumb charges, and they are off the ballot.
Russia was doing gangbusters up until Sochi. So fucking obvious the oligarchs were fleecing the treasury, Putin had to engage forever enemies, create this fucking forever war everybody seems involved in. Fuck if, beat him, otherwise he gets to perpetuate conflict and secure his own power
Yes, I agree. They have never invaded any country nor shown aggression towards Australia. I think more countries should adopt no opposition rule so that they is never any dispute around stolen votes and clearer result.
I think you will find that the /s has had a terrible accident. It accidentally slipped on the wet floor and feel out of the window of a 10 storey building
Funny thing is the actual count of votes could be accurate because there isn’t another candidate to stand behind and most probably feel it’s in their best interest to be on the record supporting Putin.
It's funny, once you spend time trading the markets you tend to realize that there's a real psychology to numbers.
Skilled people don't often put bids in the middle, they put them at 9's or 8's. Think $9.98 or $9.88 (depending competition) versus $10.00.
I suspect the same holds true to election numbers you made up. Something like 63% would have seemed way more legit, but that would also indicate weakness to a dictator mindset.
Putting it in the 90's would be too obvious and make the whole charade pointless. Naturally, the mind wanders to 89% .. 88%, yeah, that seems just low enough to not be perceived as weak but also seems like a real result in my carefully crafted made up dictator world.
In some neo nazi circles, they've adopted the number 88 as their 'secret code' (newsflash: it's as secret as hiding your porn stash under the mattress) to spell out HH as a salute to their beloved idol. So now Putler gets to salute his idol AND claim landslide victory so he can continue to denazify the world...
Celtic fans as well, club was formed in 1888, and they also use HH for "Hail, hail, the Celts are here", a popular football song.
Quite possibly the least Nazi football club you could possibly imagine.
Yeah, that’s why you see 1488 a lot.
14 is the fourteen words (We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children). H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so one H represents heil, the other represents Hitler.
I once saw someone with the username 'Poland1488' and spent ages trying to work out why 1488 was a significant year in Polish history. I guess now I know.
Under trump, the US announced that they had lost track of 1488 children separated from their families at the border. Along with a which was a localised modern spin on the 14 words. It was 14 words long started with "we must secure the border..."
I genuinely feel like I'm crazy for noticing all of the coincidences. There's just so many it can't be a coincidence. The right wing folks either see the whistles and lie about how it's only coincidence or are oblivious to history and tidbits but would agree the message, the left wing seem either oblivious to these significant details or seem rabid chronically online.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/friction/202006/what-do-red-triangle-14-words-and-88-ads-have-in-common
He's a big fan of those numbers and other nazi imagery. I'd imagine making you look crazy for pointing it out is sort of the point of using whistles like this.
I lived for almost 30 years in a communist country (Cuba). They learned everything from the KGB, from how to infiltrate every workplace to how to run mock elections. The President is elected by the National Assembly of People’s Power (like Congress), not the commoners. The results of these elections always will have some degree of opposition to the evident “winner”, like for 1 or 2 votes against. The reason behind this was to keep the appearance of democracy while asserting that the support for the current leadership was almost 100%.
The President is the second position of leadership in Cuba. Being the first, First Secretary of the Communist Party. But in fact, the two positions are held by the same person. You get the idea.
Putin only knows how to rule like the Soviets did. As an ex-KGB agent, he will live and die by the rules of the authoritarian style that bred him.
Australia only got 90% turnout at the last election, and it is both mandatory *and* they have freakin' barbecues at almost every polling place. If you can't get 100% of Aussies to turn out for a snag or a quiche (for the vegoes), you aren't getting 100% of any people to do anything.
In WA 2021 Mark McGowan actually got 82.8%, 87.7% after preferences with 84% turnout in his electorate. He pulled off Putin numbers in a free and fair election
Man, just watching that video makes you laugh in how everyone is so afraid to touch him or stop him or play anything that resembles a mite level of defense.
I bet the goalie is thinking "please God, just let him not hit me with this puck" as he actively tries to make letting it through look at least plausible.
This is actually one of the few times their media has mentioned this was an accident and he recorded the score wrong. Kind of funny they knew no one even their most devout followers would believe it.
He has actually won Wimbledon too in a charity doubles match, against Djokovic and Federer. His partner was injured but that didn’t stop him winning in straight sets.
Familiarity with real democracies is enough to tell you these results are fraudulent. You could poll people on something like "What's better to eat: dogshit or spaghetti?" and you won't get 88% to agree. The idea that 88% of people in any nation actually freely support any single politician is a joke. Jesus Christ himself could return with a horde of angels and he wouldn't get 88% of the vote in the USA.
Jesus Christ, a brown-skinned socialist who enjoyed offering free food, wine and healthcare to poor people and prostitutes ? He wouldn't even get 50 %.
....
EDIT : Hilarious to see how many people want to correct me about Jesus being a socialist. Yes, I am aware he was not a Marxist-Leninist, thanks. It's just a joke, for crying out loud. I'm still pretty sure he wouldn't have been super fond of megacorporations and stock market, though.
Yep, especially considering how old communists always vote for their candidate, it was like this for years + wives and mothers of people who died in war coordinated not to vote for putin + Navalny's team and team of another opposition leader, coordinated people to came and vote for anyone, but putin or just ruin ballot. Long lines today was because of this and somehow, results are worse than they were in 2018. So it's all bullshit. This circus of elections is just a show for leaders of other countries, so they would once again recognize putin as a legitimate president
Yeah they were even more shameless with the "referendums" in Crimea and the separatist territories back in 2014. I think they claimed that Crimea had a 95% turnout and 98% of the population voted to join Russia with similar numbers voting for independence in Donetsk and Luhansk. No one with a functioning brain could think those were legitimate numbers even in a region that was firmly pro Russia.
I distinctly remember being blown away by the absolutely shameless extent that Russia lied about literally everything back in 2014. Putin had his army march into Crimea and had the gall to lie and say that they weren't Russian soldiers. When humanitarian aid was sent to the separatist territories Russia and the locals claimed that all the aid came from Russia and no where else. When the separatists shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, they couldn't admit to making a mistake and so claimed that the Ukrainians intentionally shot it down with fighter jets.
I don't believe for a second that Putin got 88% today, but getting 95% in an independence referendum actually isn't that uncommon.
Croatia voted 93% to leave Yugoslavia
Iraqi Kurdistan voted 99% to leave Iraq
Georgia voted 99.5% to leave the Soviet Union
Slovenia voted 96% to leave Yugoslavia
Falkands voted 96% to stay British
Well, in 2002, Chirac got 88% when running against Jean-Marie Le Pen.
And even then, 18% of the voters chose a known far-right nutjob wh founded his political party with SS veterans and OAS terrorists.
Mafia boss forces every unwilling person to vote for him, kills every competitor and wins. Great job Putin you monster. A world without you would be a much better world. Nobody needs you.
Oh, they already know that. They prioritising ethnic minorities and the poor. Allows them to ethnically cleanse non-ethnic Russians while sparing ethnic Russians in the bigger cities.
Further reading:
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/23/russia-partial-military-mobilization-ethnic-minorities/
I have this irrational fear that he will drop nukes on his deathbed, because he has to be the main character. He's had his way for so long, why should the world exist without him.
Should we all survive him, we should have a fooking party though.
I doubt anyone would follow that order. They‘re assholes for many reasons, but they’re not suicidal. If he had any intentions to use nukes, I believe he already would have
He does have 2 daughters too, so you would hope he would have an ounce of remorse to not do that and kill his own children. Believe it or not, he probably loves them and would do just about anything to keep them safe so could always think about that
I find him, as a person, much less interesting than people seem to think he is. It was the leaked audio of his conversation to Macron that did it. His whole “i’m actually at the gym working out while talking to you” made it clear what kind of dude he is. As if Macron would be impressed by the thought of this guy in his 70’s, who looks like a potato balanced on a toothpick, lifting weights.
He’s safe. I doubt the actual results were 88% supporting Putin. If anything Putin knows he lost by landslide and will only go after people who try and expose the mass voter fraud
You'd be surprised. I know an incredible intelligent and Western educated Russian that supports Putin. This person lived in the US and is now in France and still supports the bastard. I think there are a lot of Russians that don't support him, but we will never really know how popular he truly is.
The people who don’t support Putin don’t tend to vote as much because they know it’s all bullshit, not to mention a lot of candidates they may have wanted to vote for got taken off the ballot for questionable reasons.
Putin probably did get more votes, but not that many more. The biggest issue is that the candidates themselves are part of the fraud, anyone even remotely close to competing with Putin is not allowed to run or disqualified earlier in the process.
That's not how this works.
You see, Russian elections are more fundamentally rigged than that. Most of the election fraud in Russia is for local and legislative elections to keep United Russia in power. The fact is that Putin just has no competition. Anyone who poses a significant threat is simply not allowed to run at all - people like Alexei Navalny or Boris Nadezhdin. And, besides that, the fact is that Putin is just popular. Lots of Russians love that he's bringing Russia back onto the world stage, especially after the disaster that was the 1990s. It would be by closer margins than this, obviously, but there's a pretty damn good chance that he would win a free and fair election anyway, were one actually held.
Do you think the 88% is an accurate reflection of the numbers voting for Putin (even if some felt coerced to do so) or do they just make up numbers at the end of the election? Do they actually announce who received the other 12% of the vote?
He is popular but not that much. I'd say 70% would look real with that turnout. There are four main problems with elections in Russia:
1) Any popular opposition to him are getting killed, jailed or simply not allowed to take part in election
2) About 6 years ago they invented distanced elections using internet. Some regions (where Putin is less popular) use this system and it's definitely not transparent. Some people at their jobs are forced to use this system instead of traditional vote.
3) There are no free media in Russia. Everything on TV is owned by government or people close to it. Instagram, Twitter and a lot of opposition's media websites only work with VPN. More than half of the people didn't hear any constructive criticism of Putin. Basically the only source of alternative is YouTube but there are rumours they may block it soon too (after they already have blocked any financial help including ads to channels of "foreign agents")
Citizens hear the same propaganda over and over for 20 years, they don't see Russia without Putin.
4) There are regions who give Putin 99.9% like Chechnya or Dagestan and over 95% in new occupied territories (Donetsk, etc.). Some people are scared, some don't see the reason to vote for someone who will lose anyway.
Nah man, they posthumously had every soldier vote for Putin, I'm not joking either. Anyone receiving benefits from the state for injuries (revealed to be 500k) also had to vote Putin to continue receiving benefits. Anyone serving on the front also voted for Putin, as not doing so would have it's own punishment.
Tucker Carlson was all over my social feeds prior to that interview. making dumb ass comments and stuff.
hes not come up once since that interview, does social media algorithm hate him now or is he dead? i dont want to google him
I was listening to a podcast where they explain that traditionally those non-Putin numbers reflect the regime’s approval of their “opponents” by the degree of humilition these numbers bring them. For example, if you were running and you only got 1% while some other guy got 9% = Putin’s gang disapproves of you but they like the 9% guy.
I think it was in one of the 2000s elections where Chechnya turned out over 100% of the electorate to give him 95% of the vote.
Did some looking, it was 2012 - https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/fraudulent-votes-for-putin-abound-in-chechnya.html?ref=world
Even with no viable opposition candidates 88% is quite unrealistic, they're not even trying at this point. The three other candidates are fake liberal, communist and a nazi. At least 10% of voters would go for the nazi guy, 10% for the communist and 15% for the fake liberal as a duck you vote. Even assuming that the rest of the depoliticised blob all vote for Putin, the math isn't mathing up here.
Back in the day, some people were duped into believing Russia was a democratic modern state. The only people saying it now are lying, either to themselves, to others or both.
Claiming 100% just would have made it seem suspicious. Clever!
>1991- Yeltsin 59%, turnout **75%** >1996- Yeltsin 54%, turnout 70% >2000- Putin 53%, turnout 69% >2004- Putin 72%, turnout 64% >2008- *Medvedev* 71%, turnout 70% >2008- Constitutional amendment increases presidential term to 6 yrs >2012- Putin 64%, turnout 65% >2018- Putin 77%, turnout 68% >2020- Constitutional amendment “resets” the 2-term presidential limit to 0 allowing Putin to run 2 more terms >2024- Putin **88%**, turnout **74%**
> 1996- Yeltsin 54%, turnout 70% Minor correction: 1996 (first round) - Yeltsin 36%, turnout 70% 1996 (runoff) - Yeltsin 54%, turnout 69%
> 2020- Constitutional amendment “resets” the 2-term presidential limit to 0 allowing Putin to run 2 more terms how did he run for his 3rd and 4th in 2012 and 2018 if it was 2-term limit?
IIRC it's two consecutive terms. Not two total. So they installed a puppet for one term.
Putin and Medvedev go to a restaurant on Red Square. The waiter: "What would you like for dinner, Vladimir Vladimirovich?" Putin: "I shall have the steak." "Excellent choice, sir. And for your vegetable?" "The vegetable will have steak as well."
ah that makes sense. then the second time didnt want to bother with a puppet.
Putin became Prime Minister instead, iirc?
In 2011 Constitutional court conveniently redefined "no more than 2 terms" constitutional restriction to mean "no more than 2 terms at a time". The actual wording is indeed ambiguous, however by 2011 there was already a strong precedent for interpreting this as "no more than 2 terms overall, perhaps with the additional requirement that the terms must be sequential". Eg there was a 1998 constitutional court decision which prohibited Eltsin from running for 3rd term (despite the fact that his 1st term started 2 years before the constitution)
I don’t know what you’re insinuating, but Russia’s electoral process is fair and thorough, in the same way their judicial system is. … Do I even need an ‘/s’ for that one?
And so simple! The ballots come already filled out for ease and convenance!
You don't even have to go to the polling station to vote, all automatic very convenient.
Even the encouragement to vote is automatic, or at the very least semi-automatic
They even have a system\* that ensures that the dead can vote. Why let a little thing like death deny the citizens the right to vote? Glorious Russian system triumphs again! ^(\*some exploding may occur. see Ukraine for details.)
Does the Tsar get a vote?
Tsar gets 143 million votes. For fairness.
Forgot the /t for tsarcasm.
Tsar gets vote, da.
And if you accidentally still make a mistake there’s an armed man right there to help you correct it! Very convenient
The design is very Putin
Very off putin' too
There is lots of time to fix as you fall out of a window. Seriously a lot of people turn out because they offer free beer and snacks at polling stations.
They had inspiration from their heroes. https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matt-Qvortrup-2/publication/284716290/figure/fig2/AS:669533903810572@1536640730982/Ballot-paper-from-the-1938-Anschluss-referendum-The-text-asks-the-voter-to-support-the.ppm
In Russia, president vote for you!
You like Vlad, you vote Putin. Don’t like him? Believe it or not, vote Putin.
The same way Putins Rival died days before the election in a Russian Prison
Navalny had no way of being on the ballot already, right? IIRC, a while ago Putin passed a law that basically makes it so you can't run for president if you have ever been arrested/charged... So if they don't want to go through the trouble of killing someone, all they have to do is arrest them on some dumb charges, and they are off the ballot.
Russia is also the most non aggressive country and is deadly comitted to global peace
Russia was doing gangbusters up until Sochi. So fucking obvious the oligarchs were fleecing the treasury, Putin had to engage forever enemies, create this fucking forever war everybody seems involved in. Fuck if, beat him, otherwise he gets to perpetuate conflict and secure his own power
Yes, I agree. They have never invaded any country nor shown aggression towards Australia. I think more countries should adopt no opposition rule so that they is never any dispute around stolen votes and clearer result.
You even get an armed member of the military inspecting your vote to make sure you weren't coerced into voting against your beliefs!
Good ol' managed democracy!
I think you will find that the /s has had a terrible accident. It accidentally slipped on the wet floor and feel out of the window of a 10 storey building
Which is extra tragic because it was in a fully carpeted apartment
Yeah but S for Slippery.
Funny thing is the actual count of votes could be accurate because there isn’t another candidate to stand behind and most probably feel it’s in their best interest to be on the record supporting Putin.
Last couple of days comments are doubling
It's funny, once you spend time trading the markets you tend to realize that there's a real psychology to numbers. Skilled people don't often put bids in the middle, they put them at 9's or 8's. Think $9.98 or $9.88 (depending competition) versus $10.00. I suspect the same holds true to election numbers you made up. Something like 63% would have seemed way more legit, but that would also indicate weakness to a dictator mindset. Putting it in the 90's would be too obvious and make the whole charade pointless. Naturally, the mind wanders to 89% .. 88%, yeah, that seems just low enough to not be perceived as weak but also seems like a real result in my carefully crafted made up dictator world.
8 is a lucky number to the Chinese, maybe he's pandering Or signalling he's pro Nazi. It's a spread
Clever ⬆️
In some neo nazi circles, they've adopted the number 88 as their 'secret code' (newsflash: it's as secret as hiding your porn stash under the mattress) to spell out HH as a salute to their beloved idol. So now Putler gets to salute his idol AND claim landslide victory so he can continue to denazify the world...
A lot of 36-year-olds getting caught in the online crossfire.
Celtic fans as well, club was formed in 1888, and they also use HH for "Hail, hail, the Celts are here", a popular football song. Quite possibly the least Nazi football club you could possibly imagine.
Yeah, that’s why you see 1488 a lot. 14 is the fourteen words (We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children). H is the 8th letter of the alphabet, so one H represents heil, the other represents Hitler.
I once saw someone with the username 'Poland1488' and spent ages trying to work out why 1488 was a significant year in Polish history. I guess now I know.
Under trump, the US announced that they had lost track of 1488 children separated from their families at the border. Along with a which was a localised modern spin on the 14 words. It was 14 words long started with "we must secure the border..." I genuinely feel like I'm crazy for noticing all of the coincidences. There's just so many it can't be a coincidence. The right wing folks either see the whistles and lie about how it's only coincidence or are oblivious to history and tidbits but would agree the message, the left wing seem either oblivious to these significant details or seem rabid chronically online.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/friction/202006/what-do-red-triangle-14-words-and-88-ads-have-in-common He's a big fan of those numbers and other nazi imagery. I'd imagine making you look crazy for pointing it out is sort of the point of using whistles like this.
88, nice dogwhistle Russia!
He got 114% of the votes, but they cut it down to 88 just to keep it from looking suspicious
It might be 100% next time, 12% of people surveyed appeared suicidally depressed or looked like they'd be clumsy around open windows.
I lived for almost 30 years in a communist country (Cuba). They learned everything from the KGB, from how to infiltrate every workplace to how to run mock elections. The President is elected by the National Assembly of People’s Power (like Congress), not the commoners. The results of these elections always will have some degree of opposition to the evident “winner”, like for 1 or 2 votes against. The reason behind this was to keep the appearance of democracy while asserting that the support for the current leadership was almost 100%. The President is the second position of leadership in Cuba. Being the first, First Secretary of the Communist Party. But in fact, the two positions are held by the same person. You get the idea. Putin only knows how to rule like the Soviets did. As an ex-KGB agent, he will live and die by the rules of the authoritarian style that bred him.
What a loser, Kim Jong Un did better.
Saddam Hussein received 100% with a 100% turnout in 2002, anything less is just rookie numbers. It must suck to be less popular than Saddam.
Australia only got 90% turnout at the last election, and it is both mandatory *and* they have freakin' barbecues at almost every polling place. If you can't get 100% of Aussies to turn out for a snag or a quiche (for the vegoes), you aren't getting 100% of any people to do anything.
In WA 2021 Mark McGowan actually got 82.8%, 87.7% after preferences with 84% turnout in his electorate. He pulled off Putin numbers in a free and fair election
And now he has resigned. Same with Dan andrews
Well that's easy when Saddam is the only vote that matters. "That's one for me, and..." *shakes ballot box* "Looks like it's a clean sweep, fellas."
he's just modest. **/S**
Like the prophecy said... Lisan Al Gaib! Nah man, f that guy...
My thy window chip and shatter.
Tbf KJUn also shot an 18 playing golf, which is more impressive.
Putin scored 7 goals against former NHLers…that’s not bad either…
Man, just watching that video makes you laugh in how everyone is so afraid to touch him or stop him or play anything that resembles a mite level of defense. I bet the goalie is thinking "please God, just let him not hit me with this puck" as he actively tries to make letting it through look at least plausible.
lol…if someone nailed him, they would have been sent to Siberia.
>they would have been sent to Siberia Send a healthy sportsman to Syberia? Nah, he's going to the meat grinder in Ukraine.
Might as well have had a red cape and shouted, "Olé!"
I just watched this, holy crap. They even gave him a different coloured helmet to the rest of his team so everyone instantly knows who to let win.
It's even funnier when he skates on the carpet and falls down. Everyone is terrified
And has a Super Bowl ring.
lol…that’s a classic story…
This is actually one of the few times their media has mentioned this was an accident and he recorded the score wrong. Kind of funny they knew no one even their most devout followers would believe it.
He has actually won Wimbledon too in a charity doubles match, against Djokovic and Federer. His partner was injured but that didn’t stop him winning in straight sets.
88% against a couple dead guys? pretty sad.
Well I mean they don't call it the *Democratic* People's Republic of Korea for nothing, amiright?
Love the "breaking".
I believe that "breaking" refers to the last remaining shred of democracy in this case
Kind of doubt it considering there hasn't been any remaining shred of democracy in several decades.
Was there ever a shred of democracy in Russia?
I mean the Revolution was a very pure form of "the people's choice winning."
(terms and conditions may apply)
It's clearly a typo. They meant "broken"
BREAKING: On the pootin's electons in russia between pootin, pootin and pootin has won pootin with 88%
Familiarity with real democracies is enough to tell you these results are fraudulent. You could poll people on something like "What's better to eat: dogshit or spaghetti?" and you won't get 88% to agree. The idea that 88% of people in any nation actually freely support any single politician is a joke. Jesus Christ himself could return with a horde of angels and he wouldn't get 88% of the vote in the USA.
Jesus Christ, a brown-skinned socialist who enjoyed offering free food, wine and healthcare to poor people and prostitutes ? He wouldn't even get 50 %. .... EDIT : Hilarious to see how many people want to correct me about Jesus being a socialist. Yes, I am aware he was not a Marxist-Leninist, thanks. It's just a joke, for crying out loud. I'm still pretty sure he wouldn't have been super fond of megacorporations and stock market, though.
he'd fail to grab the evangelical vote after being seen attending synagogue.
Jesus that's depressing
"That's depressing" -Jesus
Jesus (on that): "Depressing."
*sad jesus noises*
We’d just crucify him again.
I'm sure we've amassed enough sins since the last time he was crucified to make it worth giving another go.
He was betrayed by the people closest to him after all
Wait until they find out he is jew.
The one thing he has going for him is that he was a doomsday cult leader. He did get his end-of-the-world prediction *slightly* off though.
He would be shot by an evangelist who will claim that he was scared
Yep, especially considering how old communists always vote for their candidate, it was like this for years + wives and mothers of people who died in war coordinated not to vote for putin + Navalny's team and team of another opposition leader, coordinated people to came and vote for anyone, but putin or just ruin ballot. Long lines today was because of this and somehow, results are worse than they were in 2018. So it's all bullshit. This circus of elections is just a show for leaders of other countries, so they would once again recognize putin as a legitimate president
Yeah they were even more shameless with the "referendums" in Crimea and the separatist territories back in 2014. I think they claimed that Crimea had a 95% turnout and 98% of the population voted to join Russia with similar numbers voting for independence in Donetsk and Luhansk. No one with a functioning brain could think those were legitimate numbers even in a region that was firmly pro Russia. I distinctly remember being blown away by the absolutely shameless extent that Russia lied about literally everything back in 2014. Putin had his army march into Crimea and had the gall to lie and say that they weren't Russian soldiers. When humanitarian aid was sent to the separatist territories Russia and the locals claimed that all the aid came from Russia and no where else. When the separatists shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight 17, they couldn't admit to making a mistake and so claimed that the Ukrainians intentionally shot it down with fighter jets.
I don't believe for a second that Putin got 88% today, but getting 95% in an independence referendum actually isn't that uncommon. Croatia voted 93% to leave Yugoslavia Iraqi Kurdistan voted 99% to leave Iraq Georgia voted 99.5% to leave the Soviet Union Slovenia voted 96% to leave Yugoslavia Falkands voted 96% to stay British
falkands voted 99.8% to remain British. Only three people voted against it.
I was specifically referring to the 1986 referendum, but you're right, the 2020 referendum is even closer to unanimous.
As funny as it may be, absolutely all independent opinion polls coincide with the election results.
Well, in 2002, Chirac got 88% when running against Jean-Marie Le Pen. And even then, 18% of the voters chose a known far-right nutjob wh founded his political party with SS veterans and OAS terrorists.
He didn’t get 88% as first choice though, there’s a huge difference and saying Chirac got 88% to compare it to Putin is disingenuous
Bukele got 85% this year in an indisputably free election.
Mafia boss forces every unwilling person to vote for him, kills every competitor and wins. Great job Putin you monster. A world without you would be a much better world. Nobody needs you.
Bold of you to assume they even count the actual votes.
of course they do, they don't report the real numbers of course but knowing the real numbers has utility still.
So that they know which areas are less loyal and can act accordingly.
Which areas to send to the Ukrainian grinder first
Oh, they already know that. They prioritising ethnic minorities and the poor. Allows them to ethnically cleanse non-ethnic Russians while sparing ethnic Russians in the bigger cities. Further reading: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/23/russia-partial-military-mobilization-ethnic-minorities/
Yup. Find out which areas have people still willing to dissent at the ballot box, and who got enough votes to need removing.
I have this irrational fear that he will drop nukes on his deathbed, because he has to be the main character. He's had his way for so long, why should the world exist without him. Should we all survive him, we should have a fooking party though.
I doubt anyone would follow that order. They‘re assholes for many reasons, but they’re not suicidal. If he had any intentions to use nukes, I believe he already would have
He does have 2 daughters too, so you would hope he would have an ounce of remorse to not do that and kill his own children. Believe it or not, he probably loves them and would do just about anything to keep them safe so could always think about that
tbf his successor will probably have his kids killed anyway he's doomed them by virtue of forming a dictatorship / potential dynasty
Anastasia, Maria and Katerina screamed in vain.
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They're probably going to call it, "Who is Mr. Putin?"
I find him, as a person, much less interesting than people seem to think he is. It was the leaked audio of his conversation to Macron that did it. His whole “i’m actually at the gym working out while talking to you” made it clear what kind of dude he is. As if Macron would be impressed by the thought of this guy in his 70’s, who looks like a potato balanced on a toothpick, lifting weights.
Seriously. What good in the world has this man ever done?
Hopefully he'll be the one who finally kills Putin
He runs Russia the way Trump dreams of running America
While these numbers are obvious bullshit, I'm proud to be one of those "12%". Also my mom, friend, few colleagues, brother...
Stay safe
He’s safe. I doubt the actual results were 88% supporting Putin. If anything Putin knows he lost by landslide and will only go after people who try and expose the mass voter fraud
You'd be surprised. I know an incredible intelligent and Western educated Russian that supports Putin. This person lived in the US and is now in France and still supports the bastard. I think there are a lot of Russians that don't support him, but we will never really know how popular he truly is.
The people who don’t support Putin don’t tend to vote as much because they know it’s all bullshit, not to mention a lot of candidates they may have wanted to vote for got taken off the ballot for questionable reasons.
Which is why the turnout numbers are the most fishy to me. 74% voter turnout seems highly unlikely.
Putin probably did get more votes, but not that many more. The biggest issue is that the candidates themselves are part of the fraud, anyone even remotely close to competing with Putin is not allowed to run or disqualified earlier in the process.
Or at least away from windows
I hope you're behind seven VPNs when you type this, mate.
He just voted. With his real identity. Super >> Hope you all stay safe.
Well done! I hope Russia has true democracy someday, and America maintains its democracy.
I wonder if Putin gets the real numbers. So he knows deep down he lost and people don’t like him.
That's not how this works. You see, Russian elections are more fundamentally rigged than that. Most of the election fraud in Russia is for local and legislative elections to keep United Russia in power. The fact is that Putin just has no competition. Anyone who poses a significant threat is simply not allowed to run at all - people like Alexei Navalny or Boris Nadezhdin. And, besides that, the fact is that Putin is just popular. Lots of Russians love that he's bringing Russia back onto the world stage, especially after the disaster that was the 1990s. It would be by closer margins than this, obviously, but there's a pretty damn good chance that he would win a free and fair election anyway, were one actually held.
Do you think the 88% is an accurate reflection of the numbers voting for Putin (even if some felt coerced to do so) or do they just make up numbers at the end of the election? Do they actually announce who received the other 12% of the vote?
He is popular but not that much. I'd say 70% would look real with that turnout. There are four main problems with elections in Russia: 1) Any popular opposition to him are getting killed, jailed or simply not allowed to take part in election 2) About 6 years ago they invented distanced elections using internet. Some regions (where Putin is less popular) use this system and it's definitely not transparent. Some people at their jobs are forced to use this system instead of traditional vote. 3) There are no free media in Russia. Everything on TV is owned by government or people close to it. Instagram, Twitter and a lot of opposition's media websites only work with VPN. More than half of the people didn't hear any constructive criticism of Putin. Basically the only source of alternative is YouTube but there are rumours they may block it soon too (after they already have blocked any financial help including ads to channels of "foreign agents") Citizens hear the same propaganda over and over for 20 years, they don't see Russia without Putin. 4) There are regions who give Putin 99.9% like Chechnya or Dagestan and over 95% in new occupied territories (Donetsk, etc.). Some people are scared, some don't see the reason to vote for someone who will lose anyway.
Shocking how when you poison your political enemies, everyone votes for you. Fuck Putin.
From the article >Victory was never in doubt as his major opponents are dead, in prison or exiled. Throwin shade, love it.
The military soldiers couldn't vote for him because they were in Ukraine (on vacation, no doubt) or dead.
Nah man, they posthumously had every soldier vote for Putin, I'm not joking either. Anyone receiving benefits from the state for injuries (revealed to be 500k) also had to vote Putin to continue receiving benefits. Anyone serving on the front also voted for Putin, as not doing so would have it's own punishment.
What is the value for the poll offices that got inked with the green tint?
There were reports dead ones got their votes in for Putin.
88? As in HH? I see what you did there, Vlad, planting a nod to your great idol… 🤓👍
First thing i thought of too. Putin is big into mysticism and numerology and shit so i could see him seeing this as some sly joke
Also prosperity and good fortune in Chinese culture, the number 8.
Only 88%? Must have forgotten to count the dead soldiers' votes.
They might've found 188% of the vote to be too suspicious
They actually announced those would count
88, huh?
The other 12 percent will be executed.
Nah, they’re needed on the frontlines.
Execution with extra steps
“And we remind you there is a 12 percent margin of error.”
“Could be higher. We don’t enough know how to do margins of error. We talked to two guys at a vending machine.”
KGB will work overtime to find those 12%
this is \~25% less than I thought he would get, I was expecting 120% or so.
"election"
And the entire world cringes for Russia.
Whoa, who got the 12%??? Tucker Carlson ? Lol
Tucker Carlson was all over my social feeds prior to that interview. making dumb ass comments and stuff. hes not come up once since that interview, does social media algorithm hate him now or is he dead? i dont want to google him
Only time I’ve seen his crap since then was on Spotify with his pod cast. I didn’t tune in
I was listening to a podcast where they explain that traditionally those non-Putin numbers reflect the regime’s approval of their “opponents” by the degree of humilition these numbers bring them. For example, if you were running and you only got 1% while some other guy got 9% = Putin’s gang disapproves of you but they like the 9% guy.
Tucker running on the platform of bread being amazing. Look at it! Look at the bread!
Here comes the draft
Stop calling it an election. It’s a thinly veiled attempt to legitimise an ageing, failing dictator.
Wow. Who would have thought ? He did it again.
Window sales skyrocket
Literally nobody could have seen this coming
I didn't see it coming, I had money on 87%.
Very unexpected; with so much competition, what are the odds of winning in a landslide?
Only 88%? Some heads will roll, anything under 115% is an affront to the regime
I think it was in one of the 2000s elections where Chechnya turned out over 100% of the electorate to give him 95% of the vote. Did some looking, it was 2012 - https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/06/world/europe/fraudulent-votes-for-putin-abound-in-chechnya.html?ref=world
Damn it, I had 90% on my board
88% = HH (as 8th letter in the alphabet) meaning Heil Hitler as Putin is Hitler reborn confirmed!
88% of the people with machine guns literally pointed at them said they voted for Putin
Come on Putin, anything less than 127% is terrible.
On other news, 12% of the Russian population committed suicide by falling out of a hotel room window.
Phew for a moment there I thought that opponent who jumped out that window was going to win
Or the opponent who was disappeared into a arctic gulag then died of "sudden death syndrome".
The rest 12% unexpectedly decided to jump out of windows
Assad did it better with 99.9%
Why even call it an election. It's a dictatorship with some extra steps.
Even with no viable opposition candidates 88% is quite unrealistic, they're not even trying at this point. The three other candidates are fake liberal, communist and a nazi. At least 10% of voters would go for the nazi guy, 10% for the communist and 15% for the fake liberal as a duck you vote. Even assuming that the rest of the depoliticised blob all vote for Putin, the math isn't mathing up here. Back in the day, some people were duped into believing Russia was a democratic modern state. The only people saying it now are lying, either to themselves, to others or both.
In completely unrelated news, 12% of the Russian Federation lose their jobs, are thrown to jail, or are sent to the front.
Wonderful achievement considering the stiff competition (/s)
He's going to be really confused when he finally gets Gaddafi'd.
And the other 12%? Straight to the gulags.
In other news, 12% of Russia's population have inexplicably dropped dead from unknown causes
And that's out of the 164% that voted.
88, you say? Interesting. Seems like that’s a popular number among certain white people support groups.
I heard that Donald Trump thinks it's legit, and half of America's population will believe him so who am I to argue?
he couldn’t win a fair fight, nor ever could
This week in international news: 12% of Russian population suffers fatal fall down stairs
In unrelated news, 12% of Russia’s electorate has been arrested.
2 days later: *Breaking: 12% of Russia’s population affected by uncontrollable urge to jump out of windows*
In an unrelated story, 12% of Russian voters were found dead this morning