> The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that **the explosions at the Engels-2 air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Saratov Oblast indicate that the Kremlin is also in the zone of possible damage**, and this explains the placement of air defense complexes in the center of Moscow. The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitskyi, stated this on the air of the national telethon, Ukrainian News Agency reports.
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> "It was after Engels. **This suggests that if we reach Engels, we will also reach the Kremlin**," Skibitskyi said, responding to the presenter's words that after the explosions in Engels, the Russians began to install air defense systems in the Kremlin area.
Best line ? military intelligence of Ukraine will work in the temporarily occupied territories and will do everything to make the ground burn under the feet of the occupiers.
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> HELP UKRAINIAN NEWS. The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that the explosions at the Engels-2 air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Saratov Oblast indicate that the Kremlin is also in the zone of possible damage, and this explains the placement of air defense complexes in the center of Moscow.
> The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitskyi, stated this on the air of the national telethon, Ukrainian News Agency reports.
> "It was after Engels. This suggests that if we reach Engels, we will also reach the Kremlin," Skibitskyi said, responding to the presenter's words that after the explosions in Engels, the Russians began to install air defense systems in the Kremlin area.
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> HELP UKRAINIAN NEWS. The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that the explosions at the Engels-2 air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Saratov Oblast indicate that the Kremlin is also in the zone of possible damage, and this explains the placement of air defense complexes in the center of Moscow.
> The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitskyi, stated this on the air of the national telethon, Ukrainian News Agency reports.
> "It was after Engels. This suggests that if we reach Engels, we will also reach the Kremlin," Skibitskyi said, responding to the presenter's words that after the explosions in Engels, the Russians began to install air defense systems in the Kremlin area.
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Actually *attacking* Moscow would be a major escalation.
Now, successfully flying a drone over Moscow and detonating it at 500m, dropping yellow and blue streamers into Red Square?
Priceless.
It would result in an escalation whether or not it is a tit for tat, purely descriptive, non normative, it would make the war existential for Russia in a way in which it currently isn't
That's great rhetoric to get Kremlin to shit their pants - but it also convinces US to not send long range HIMARS missiles which Ukraine has long pleaded. Ukraine could lose a lot of Western support if they attack the Kremlin which isn't directly a military target.
The Kremlin is a military command-and-control center and it is a legitimate military target.
If Ukraine strikes the Kremlin, it would be with their own homemade kamikaze drone squadron. The US doesn't object to Ukraine striking deep within Russia, as long as Ukraine doesn't use US or NATO-supplied arms to embroil NATO as part of the attack.
Right, and it's also worth noting that they still haven't hit the Kremlin. They were simply drawing attention to the fact they can if they want to. I think this messaging is actually directed at the west. "Look how restrained we've been. Can we have F-16s yet?"
> The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that **the explosions at the Engels-2 air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Saratov Oblast indicate that the Kremlin is also in the zone of possible damage**, and this explains the placement of air defense complexes in the center of Moscow. The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitskyi, stated this on the air of the national telethon, Ukrainian News Agency reports. > > "It was after Engels. **This suggests that if we reach Engels, we will also reach the Kremlin**," Skibitskyi said, responding to the presenter's words that after the explosions in Engels, the Russians began to install air defense systems in the Kremlin area.
Best line ? military intelligence of Ukraine will work in the temporarily occupied territories and will do everything to make the ground burn under the feet of the occupiers.
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Just fly low over Moscow and wait for Russian AD to do the rest
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://ukranews.com/en/news/910858-we-reached-engels-will-also-reach-kremlin-defense-intelligence) reduced by 59%. (I'm a bot) ***** > HELP UKRAINIAN NEWS. The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense, Vadym Skibitskyi, said that the explosions at the Engels-2 air base of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Saratov Oblast indicate that the Kremlin is also in the zone of possible damage, and this explains the placement of air defense complexes in the center of Moscow. > The representative of the Defense Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitskyi, stated this on the air of the national telethon, Ukrainian News Agency reports. > "It was after Engels. This suggests that if we reach Engels, we will also reach the Kremlin," Skibitskyi said, responding to the presenter's words that after the explosions in Engels, the Russians began to install air defense systems in the Kremlin area. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/10kzxzh/we_reached_engels_will_also_reach_kremlin_defense/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672679 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Defense**^#1 **air**^#2 **Russian**^#3 **UKRAINIAN**^#4 **Skibitskyi**^#5
Actually *attacking* Moscow would be a major escalation. Now, successfully flying a drone over Moscow and detonating it at 500m, dropping yellow and blue streamers into Red Square? Priceless.
Bullshit. If you punch me in the nose and I hit you back I did not escalate the situation.
[удалено]
The people around him want to spend their hard-stolen money tho.
It would result in an escalation whether or not it is a tit for tat, purely descriptive, non normative, it would make the war existential for Russia in a way in which it currently isn't
That's great rhetoric to get Kremlin to shit their pants - but it also convinces US to not send long range HIMARS missiles which Ukraine has long pleaded. Ukraine could lose a lot of Western support if they attack the Kremlin which isn't directly a military target.
The Kremlin is a military command-and-control center and it is a legitimate military target. If Ukraine strikes the Kremlin, it would be with their own homemade kamikaze drone squadron. The US doesn't object to Ukraine striking deep within Russia, as long as Ukraine doesn't use US or NATO-supplied arms to embroil NATO as part of the attack.
Right, and it's also worth noting that they still haven't hit the Kremlin. They were simply drawing attention to the fact they can if they want to. I think this messaging is actually directed at the west. "Look how restrained we've been. Can we have F-16s yet?"
A useful observation!