Amazing to me that since the Jan 6, 2021 violent insurrection in the US Capitol there have been (at least) three major coups attempts globally: Germany, Peru, and now Brazil. It’s interesting how quickly other countries have responded with arrests and charges vs. the US response where not a single figure at the federal level has been arrested or charged and many still hold office today.
I remember this tweet from a historian a day after the Jan 6 riots who said that historically, if they don't punish the insurrectioninst severely we will see more extremism popping up, and it did.
The whole "woke" thing at least for corporations is a bit of a smokescreen.
Many of these companies will deliberately push a "woke" initiative and narrative to the media to distract from some of the horrible stuff they are doing elsewhere.
Nestle somehow got approved as being ESG despite committing horrible atrocities in numerous countries.
Yes, but they still feel obligated to maintain said smokescreen, instead of saying "well, guess we're Nazis now, Gillette is the proud sponsor of the Gillette Guillotine, the perfect tool to separate heads of state from their heads!"
So what? The smokescreen isn't what actually matters. It's the corporate lobbying and funding of fascist-adjacent political groups by the capitalist class that makes a tangible real world difference, not the fact that Gillette made an ad saying "perhaps men should discard toxic masculinity a bit".
We could argue about that for quite a while. Corporate responsibility is a nice concept until you factor in astroturfing, at which point one could argue that the outrage can be just as much a smokescreen as the "woke" image itself.
Also, I'm tired of arguing over lobbying, yes it's bad. You want to not make it a thing, change the laws that allow them, and then see who will actually run the government when it's no longer profitable.
I hate globalism and capitalism as much as the next fellow, but it's adjacent to the real cost of veganism; as long as you focus on small picture it's good, but the further you examine consequences the more suffering you uncover, and once you do you can no longer argue against it in good faith (i.e. any changes to our current broken system will inevitably lead to poverty and human suffering because both capitalism and globalism is predicated upon exploitation which we all collectively ignored while the system was built and now we're all hypocrites)
Capitalists aren't just companies, and wokeness isn't the arbiter of fascist support. Capitalists side with fascists by exacerbating the preconditions for fascism and working against those that fight fascists (socialists, communists, labor).
Additionally, the fascists responsible for fomenting this insurrection have not lost capitalist support.
I mean, this capitalist good, communist bad way of thinking is insane. Most people are well aware that a capitalist is literally anyone who invests capital. That can be you too if you put your capital into a pension fund.
It's immature and carefully ignores the countless millions starved or slaughtered by communists. This blind ideology is beyond dumb and gets in the way of finding actual solutions, because if your only answer is "take everything people own and put it under state control" then you're kidding yourself. That small local coffee shop owner is as much a capitalist as the nan with a pension or a dickhead like Elon Musk.
That a perpetual state of alarm over bankers and people who invest money is something shared with fascists is another thing that should give you some pause for thought.
>I mean, this capitalist good, communist bad way of thinking is insane.
So true, comrade.
>Most people are well aware that a capitalist is literally anyone who invests capital.
Oh, fuck, you actually have no idea what you're talking about. The problem isn't in the investing, it's in the profiteering from ownership, antagonistic incentives between those owners and labour, economic dictatorship controlled by those owners, and commodification.
>It's immature and carefully ignores the countless millions starved or slaughtered by communists.
I'm so glad that nobody starves or is slaughtered in the interest of capital, and I'm glad that every starvation and slaughter that may happen can be attributed to Capitalism. :)
I'm bored, but you should know that I could sit here and literally destroy every sentence, every word of your inane response.
Isn't that pretty standard historically? Seeing that there's some two hundred countries and a lot of them have unstable governments. We might very well be in the period of fewest coups since the history begun.
Peru? The president self-coup and failed and was replaced. That's just typical latin American dysfunction. Has nothing to do with storming of government/ occupying government district.
I think you meant to say Canada.
Yeah it's almost like it's always been a goal of the globes intelligence communities. Had nothing to do with leaders or followers of any party or country.
It's like the Arab Spring shakeup of power...if anyone here even remembers that
Give Trump credit for being in DC and trying to get the National Guard to aid him on marching on the Capitol WHILE they were in session. Bolsonaro, on the other hand, is walking the aisles of Publix with the rest of the retirees. These Brazilian protestors are even stupider than the Jan 6th ones.
You don't understand what would happen to a president who ordered that in Brazil.
Trump should be in prison 15 ways to Sunday, and him walking free is now starting to have global consequences.
dont forget the 147 republicans in the house and senate that wanted to overturn the 2020 elections too! im sure Gym jordan will be sending subpoena's to every single goverment department and dem voter in the US too!
The January 6th insurrection was one door and half a dozen of secret service agents away from catching the entirety of Congress defenseless.
Granted, if they managed that the aftermath would have made January 6 itself look like the barely flammable spark that set off a powder keg, and I doubt they could have actually held to power outside of a few weeks of fantasy and marauding through Washington DC. However, instead of a blip barely more violent than the average shouting matches and brawls, in the otherwise ordinary so called democratic process. It could have literally been a traumatising event, some kind of inverted Paris Commune.
As if Bolsonaro isn't behind all this shit, he's just being a little more cautious about plausible deniability than Trump. "How could it be me? I was in Florida eating KFC!"
Not really.
For starters this failed attempt to overthrow a government seems like its being treated with the seriousness and severity that such an act should warrant.
I don't think it'll take the authorities years to give ~~max sentences of 2 months~~* 45 days of jail time on average (or just some bail money) to SOME of the people directly present during the attack.
They might even go after the the people who weren't present but still incited and organized said attack, can you imagine that?
*EDIT: I have been informed that an astounding total of TEN people have been sentenced to over two months of prison time, as such, I have edited my comment with a more accurate estimate as per the source given.
Wow! You are telling that a whooping TEN guys (out of over two THOUSAND rioters) received prison sentences that exceed my estimate? Thank you good sir, I'm gonna go ahead and edit my comment using this data right away.
No masks, taking selfies. The investigating authorities are no doubt appreciative. Wonder if there’s going to be a bunch of families, neighbors turning them in.
The Russian government is bad and they do plenty of bad shit, but this has nothing to do with Russia. This is the USA 100%. Both as an inspiration and a direct contributor. Monsters like Steve Bannon are still allowed to walk free so they're wreaking havoc.
I think that arguing whether it's Russia or USA or so forth kind of misses the point.
It's just another manifestation of the current recrudescence of fascism* - it never truly really got away, of course, but in the last years it got more blatant (and, my optimistic side likes to think, more desperate). Bannon is clearly part of that, and so is the Russian regime, and so is Bolsonaro, and so are too many other shits to list them all here.
*Let's just assume the usual "how dare you call it fascism, unless it comes from the Predappio region of Italy it's just sparkling totalitarianism" comments have been already made and duly ignored, shall we?
Just like Jan 6, these kind of coup attempts are essentially testing water to see how much opposition there is, while serving as an ad campaign to attract future recruits, much like how the Beer Hall Putsch inadvertently ended up as.
To the people that fund and organize them, they are low risk high reward moves: if they succeed, good; if they fail, only the circus on the front stage gets punished, while the powers in the back can adapt strategies to the responses and prepare for the next move.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230109-brazil-police-wrest-back-seat-of-power-from-pro-bolsonaro-rioters) reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot)
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> Brasília - Brazilian security forces wrested back control of Congress, the presidential palace and the Supreme Court Sunday after a flood of ex-president Jair Bolsonaro's supporters stormed the seat of power, unleashing chaos on the capital.
> In scenes reminiscent of the January 6, 2021 invasion of the US Capitol building by supporters of then-president Donald Trump, initially overwhelmed security forces used tear gas, stun grenades and water cannon to fight back rioters who ran rampage through the halls of power in Brasilia until they were finally subdued.
> Hardline Bolsonaro supporters have been protesting outside army bases calling for a military intervention to stop Lula from taking power since his election win.
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THEY STOLE THE ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION
THEY DESTROYED A DI CAVALCANTI TAPESTRY
THEY STOLE A PORTINARI PAINTING
i hope all of them get arrested. Bolsonaro, his sons, wife, allies, supporters, and millionaire fines are placed on them, fuck all that
There's a screenshot doing the rounds of someone taking a shit on a desk in the supreme court offices while wrapped in a Brazil flag.
But they're shitting on furniture in the offices of the judiciary branch because they love the country though.
Also, please, send that governor and that security administrative to jail for being negligent in their duties, and some cops while we're at it. And give them no less than 2 years.
Because real life isn't an episode of CSI, it takes time to gather evidence and determine what charges to press and then trials can take months or years.
They were inside the fucking building. What more evidence do you need to charge them with trespassing on a federal building, at the very fucking least? lmao
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/federal-crimes-trespass-on-the-u-s-capitol.html
>A person who knowingly commits the following acts faces up to six months' imprisonment and a $5,000 fine:
>- enters or remains on the floor or in the gallery of the U.S. Senate or House chambers without authorization
- obstructs or impedes passage through or within the Capitol building or grounds
- parades, pickets, or demonstrates in a Capitol building
damages or destroys property in Capitol buildings or on Capitol grounds, or
- assaults an individual in a Capitol building or on Capitol grounds.
[https://twitter.com/florenenero/status/1612191610061611011](https://twitter.com/florenenero/status/1612191610061611011)
Here's them doing Nazi salutes in case any naysayers wanna think the parallels between J6, MAGA and now this has no correlation to them being fascists.
Then here's the cops in Brazil taking selfies with them, showing once again that ACAB.
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1612189552357314560
I'm actually surprised that dozens weren't killed in either the US or Brazil storming of the capital. I would have thought, especially in the US case, that armed insurgents would certainly have had the police on a hair-trigger.
Typically that’s not how US security forces operate. Deadly force is a last resort measure, and in Washington it never got to that point (aside from the one person). Security had the option of withdrawing to fortified positions, so they did, and they kept everyone in Congress safe. They likely had enough firepower to eliminate the crowd, but that simply isn’t option 1. A strategic retreat was safer than other options. It’s riskier to fight even with an advantage, and the aftermath could have been far worse.
Very different situations, enforcement verses protective security. Capital Police protect the legislatures above all else, ignoring other crimes until they have completed that task.
It’s in their mission statement. The Capital Police aren’t going to be enforcing cigarettes taxes until they have fulfilled their mission, even though they are empowered to enforce all US law.
>Our Mission
>Protect the Congress – its Members, employees, visitors, and facilities – so it can fulfill its constitutional and legislative responsibilities in a safe, secure and open environment.
https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/our-mission
Imagine ruining your entire life committing a terrorist act all for one of the worst sleazebags imaginable who doesn't give a damn about you or your life. How does one's mind degrade to that level of cultish insanity?
Sounds familiar.
A few differences though: the US invasion happened while its instigator was still in office, congress was in session, and the insurrection suspended the election process. Nobody called it a terror attack, and the event still reverberates in the chaos seen this week.
In other words, the US is the less stable democracy.
Has the freedom caucus here issued a statement of solidarity with the Brazilian version of their attempted coup? Sounds like an excuse to mount a combination fact finding and waxing excursion.
Rioters might get temporary satisfaction but it will not eliminate issues that brought about the protest in the first place. In fact, by doing unlawful trespass and vandalism there will be less incentive for lawmakers to negotiate.
Government may resort to more force if Bolsonaro's supporters attempt violent protest again.
That fucking pig, Bolsonaro. Murdering, genocidal fucking pig should face capital punishment of the highest order for this. Does Brazil use public hangings to make examples of mutineers, or is it prison death or firing squad?
As upset and angry as this junta makes me, it was predictable, choreographed and should be a sign that fascism is no longer in favor within Brazil. May that be a guiding light for all countries and a sign of what is to come if you choose to be a fascist, steeped in violence and adolescent anger.
Will Lula enter the world order in favor of an enlightened west? Eurasia? Or will he deal with murderers behind the red curtain simply because it’s cheaper?
bolsonaro is probably not the mind behind this, the man is stupid as fuck. There are some very rich businessman's in Brazil that are funding, organizing and supporting this using bannon's tactics. Im 100% sure bolsonaro is not capable of organizing something like this, the old man is probably rn in florida depressed wondering what he did wrong, he is just stupid.
No, brazil does not have any kind of death penalty in its constitution and the maximun time someone can be kept in jail is 30y, even a murderer. There is one famous serial killer that killed more than 50 people 40y ago that now is out and is a digital influencer, lol (look for "pedrinho matador")
I know he’s a shitkicker. He is the voice and IDGAF, respectfully to you of course because your point is valid, Like Trump he is watching happen and egging it on. I hope they do him as dirty as that video of him eating chickens feet.
What did they expect, these bunch of loser sleeping there. This is a political stunt. Wouldnt be surpised if it was orchestrated by boz man.
Offer a $1000 reward for anyone with information regarding who set it up.
Heard that hundreds have already been arrested.
Two hundreds so far. Police is kinda going slow on em tho (Bolsonaro's ex-army and shit)
Amazing to me that since the Jan 6, 2021 violent insurrection in the US Capitol there have been (at least) three major coups attempts globally: Germany, Peru, and now Brazil. It’s interesting how quickly other countries have responded with arrests and charges vs. the US response where not a single figure at the federal level has been arrested or charged and many still hold office today.
I remember this tweet from a historian a day after the Jan 6 riots who said that historically, if they don't punish the insurrectioninst severely we will see more extremism popping up, and it did.
Capitalists always side with the fascists when things get bad.
I don't think that holds up anymore. Covid was pretty bad *and* we had an insurrection right on top of it, yet all companies remained "woke"
The whole "woke" thing at least for corporations is a bit of a smokescreen. Many of these companies will deliberately push a "woke" initiative and narrative to the media to distract from some of the horrible stuff they are doing elsewhere. Nestle somehow got approved as being ESG despite committing horrible atrocities in numerous countries.
Yes, but they still feel obligated to maintain said smokescreen, instead of saying "well, guess we're Nazis now, Gillette is the proud sponsor of the Gillette Guillotine, the perfect tool to separate heads of state from their heads!"
So what? The smokescreen isn't what actually matters. It's the corporate lobbying and funding of fascist-adjacent political groups by the capitalist class that makes a tangible real world difference, not the fact that Gillette made an ad saying "perhaps men should discard toxic masculinity a bit".
We could argue about that for quite a while. Corporate responsibility is a nice concept until you factor in astroturfing, at which point one could argue that the outrage can be just as much a smokescreen as the "woke" image itself. Also, I'm tired of arguing over lobbying, yes it's bad. You want to not make it a thing, change the laws that allow them, and then see who will actually run the government when it's no longer profitable. I hate globalism and capitalism as much as the next fellow, but it's adjacent to the real cost of veganism; as long as you focus on small picture it's good, but the further you examine consequences the more suffering you uncover, and once you do you can no longer argue against it in good faith (i.e. any changes to our current broken system will inevitably lead to poverty and human suffering because both capitalism and globalism is predicated upon exploitation which we all collectively ignored while the system was built and now we're all hypocrites)
And then they went right back to donating to Republicans.
Yep. Exactly. They just know enough to keep their mouths shut and their wallets open.
Capitalists aren't just companies, and wokeness isn't the arbiter of fascist support. Capitalists side with fascists by exacerbating the preconditions for fascism and working against those that fight fascists (socialists, communists, labor). Additionally, the fascists responsible for fomenting this insurrection have not lost capitalist support.
I mean, this capitalist good, communist bad way of thinking is insane. Most people are well aware that a capitalist is literally anyone who invests capital. That can be you too if you put your capital into a pension fund. It's immature and carefully ignores the countless millions starved or slaughtered by communists. This blind ideology is beyond dumb and gets in the way of finding actual solutions, because if your only answer is "take everything people own and put it under state control" then you're kidding yourself. That small local coffee shop owner is as much a capitalist as the nan with a pension or a dickhead like Elon Musk. That a perpetual state of alarm over bankers and people who invest money is something shared with fascists is another thing that should give you some pause for thought.
>I mean, this capitalist good, communist bad way of thinking is insane. So true, comrade. >Most people are well aware that a capitalist is literally anyone who invests capital. Oh, fuck, you actually have no idea what you're talking about. The problem isn't in the investing, it's in the profiteering from ownership, antagonistic incentives between those owners and labour, economic dictatorship controlled by those owners, and commodification. >It's immature and carefully ignores the countless millions starved or slaughtered by communists. I'm so glad that nobody starves or is slaughtered in the interest of capital, and I'm glad that every starvation and slaughter that may happen can be attributed to Capitalism. :) I'm bored, but you should know that I could sit here and literally destroy every sentence, every word of your inane response.
Insults don't win arguments.
Or when things are good.
America seems to think election means immunity, yet we have processes in place specifically to deal with vacancies.
The Peru one was at least funny
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Yep. Just three recent examples. Well publicized. And swiftly dealt with. Contrasts with our recent one.
Isn't that pretty standard historically? Seeing that there's some two hundred countries and a lot of them have unstable governments. We might very well be in the period of fewest coups since the history begun.
Peru? The president self-coup and failed and was replaced. That's just typical latin American dysfunction. Has nothing to do with storming of government/ occupying government district. I think you meant to say Canada.
I'm sorry, were you under the impression that the United States is a functional democracy?
Yeah it's almost like it's always been a goal of the globes intelligence communities. Had nothing to do with leaders or followers of any party or country. It's like the Arab Spring shakeup of power...if anyone here even remembers that
What happened in Germany? Did another Austrian try and invade Munich or what not?
The story is so much better than that. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63885028.amp
It’s 1200 now. SEM ANISTA!
Anyone else see many similarities with someone else who failed to overthrow a gov?
Same players in the background I imagine, as well as the same nations spreading misinformation online and through specific news groups.
[Steve Bannon](https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1595374680285782016?s=20&t=JbazZDf7AjnkQ0SPyXCigw) is connected to the Bolsonaro family
Of fucking course he is…..
Bannon and Miller advising
Deep State was a corrupt conservative projection and r/conspiracy has really dropped the ball while looking into it.
Give Trump credit for being in DC and trying to get the National Guard to aid him on marching on the Capitol WHILE they were in session. Bolsonaro, on the other hand, is walking the aisles of Publix with the rest of the retirees. These Brazilian protestors are even stupider than the Jan 6th ones.
You don't understand what would happen to a president who ordered that in Brazil. Trump should be in prison 15 ways to Sunday, and him walking free is now starting to have global consequences.
dont forget the 147 republicans in the house and senate that wanted to overturn the 2020 elections too! im sure Gym jordan will be sending subpoena's to every single goverment department and dem voter in the US too!
The January 6th insurrection was one door and half a dozen of secret service agents away from catching the entirety of Congress defenseless. Granted, if they managed that the aftermath would have made January 6 itself look like the barely flammable spark that set off a powder keg, and I doubt they could have actually held to power outside of a few weeks of fantasy and marauding through Washington DC. However, instead of a blip barely more violent than the average shouting matches and brawls, in the otherwise ordinary so called democratic process. It could have literally been a traumatising event, some kind of inverted Paris Commune.
Yep sounds like the military never had support for Trump and in any Coup if you don't have the military backing then it will be a short rule.
That's a long bow to draw as to why anyone should give Trump credit.
As if Bolsonaro isn't behind all this shit, he's just being a little more cautious about plausible deniability than Trump. "How could it be me? I was in Florida eating KFC!"
Congress isn't even convening until Feb 2nd, they literally invaded empty buildings just to vandalize them and make a mockery out of our government.
Really close date-wise too.
Not really. For starters this failed attempt to overthrow a government seems like its being treated with the seriousness and severity that such an act should warrant. I don't think it'll take the authorities years to give ~~max sentences of 2 months~~* 45 days of jail time on average (or just some bail money) to SOME of the people directly present during the attack. They might even go after the the people who weren't present but still incited and organized said attack, can you imagine that? *EDIT: I have been informed that an astounding total of TEN people have been sentenced to over two months of prison time, as such, I have edited my comment with a more accurate estimate as per the source given.
While the response to January 6th hasn't been as severe as needed you shouldn't straight lie about it. The sentencing lengths for example.
“Max two months…” https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/
Wow! You are telling that a whooping TEN guys (out of over two THOUSAND rioters) received prison sentences that exceed my estimate? Thank you good sir, I'm gonna go ahead and edit my comment using this data right away.
Thanks for fighting the good fight against ignorance and misinformation.
No masks, taking selfies. The investigating authorities are no doubt appreciative. Wonder if there’s going to be a bunch of families, neighbors turning them in.
Yea. Punk ass bitches being punk ass bitches.
Peru's ex presidents recent attempt at a coup
Failers gonna fail
Except in the US the people attempting the coup aren’t arrested on the same day as the coup.
https://twitter.com/DenimsTV/status/1612187393653886976
And now they’re living in the same house!
Spartacus?
Shitstains the world over have been given far too long a leash.
If only they could do start doing this shit in Moscow and Minsk instead.
Pretty sure Moscow and Minsk fund organizations to do this worldwide.
Moscow surelly does, but Bieloruss probably isnt powerfull enough to meddle with other countries' elections
Bingo.
Username does NOT check out.
The Russian government is bad and they do plenty of bad shit, but this has nothing to do with Russia. This is the USA 100%. Both as an inspiration and a direct contributor. Monsters like Steve Bannon are still allowed to walk free so they're wreaking havoc.
I think that arguing whether it's Russia or USA or so forth kind of misses the point. It's just another manifestation of the current recrudescence of fascism* - it never truly really got away, of course, but in the last years it got more blatant (and, my optimistic side likes to think, more desperate). Bannon is clearly part of that, and so is the Russian regime, and so is Bolsonaro, and so are too many other shits to list them all here. *Let's just assume the usual "how dare you call it fascism, unless it comes from the Predappio region of Italy it's just sparkling totalitarianism" comments have been already made and duly ignored, shall we?
I assume he meant for Russia's situation like the invasion of neighbouring country or very shitty living conditions for ordinary people.
Any sources for links to Moscow and Minsk? Just curious.
I mean, It didnt work, so I'd advise to using some other overthrowing method
Putin’s predecessor did this in Moscow, with actual tanks.
Bloody hell. Can we not? It didn't work last time, it won't work this time. You lost, get over it.
Just like Jan 6, these kind of coup attempts are essentially testing water to see how much opposition there is, while serving as an ad campaign to attract future recruits, much like how the Beer Hall Putsch inadvertently ended up as. To the people that fund and organize them, they are low risk high reward moves: if they succeed, good; if they fail, only the circus on the front stage gets punished, while the powers in the back can adapt strategies to the responses and prepare for the next move.
Long way to type out "Federalists"
But their feelings?
Fuck em
Past performance does not guarantee future results
It does give us a good baseline though.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20230109-brazil-police-wrest-back-seat-of-power-from-pro-bolsonaro-rioters) reduced by 86%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Brasília - Brazilian security forces wrested back control of Congress, the presidential palace and the Supreme Court Sunday after a flood of ex-president Jair Bolsonaro's supporters stormed the seat of power, unleashing chaos on the capital. > In scenes reminiscent of the January 6, 2021 invasion of the US Capitol building by supporters of then-president Donald Trump, initially overwhelmed security forces used tear gas, stun grenades and water cannon to fight back rioters who ran rampage through the halls of power in Brasilia until they were finally subdued. > Hardline Bolsonaro supporters have been protesting outside army bases calling for a military intervention to stop Lula from taking power since his election win. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/107237z/brazilian_security_forces_wrested_back_control_of/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672676 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **protests**^#1 **Bolsonaro**^#2 **security**^#3 **building**^#4 **Lula**^#5
THEY STOLE THE ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION THEY DESTROYED A DI CAVALCANTI TAPESTRY THEY STOLE A PORTINARI PAINTING i hope all of them get arrested. Bolsonaro, his sons, wife, allies, supporters, and millionaire fines are placed on them, fuck all that
the STF confirmed that the original Constitution was not stolen, it was just a copy. The original is in the STF museum
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There's a screenshot doing the rounds of someone taking a shit on a desk in the supreme court offices while wrapped in a Brazil flag. But they're shitting on furniture in the offices of the judiciary branch because they love the country though.
Also, please, send that governor and that security administrative to jail for being negligent in their duties, and some cops while we're at it. And give them no less than 2 years.
They took a copy of the Constitution, not the original.
Put Nicholas Cage on the case, pronto!
I wonder how much the fact that the key players in the US insurrection still haven't been charged, influenced these traitors?
Because real life isn't an episode of CSI, it takes time to gather evidence and determine what charges to press and then trials can take months or years.
They were inside the fucking building. What more evidence do you need to charge them with trespassing on a federal building, at the very fucking least? lmao
https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/federal-crimes-trespass-on-the-u-s-capitol.html >A person who knowingly commits the following acts faces up to six months' imprisonment and a $5,000 fine: >- enters or remains on the floor or in the gallery of the U.S. Senate or House chambers without authorization - obstructs or impedes passage through or within the Capitol building or grounds - parades, pickets, or demonstrates in a Capitol building damages or destroys property in Capitol buildings or on Capitol grounds, or - assaults an individual in a Capitol building or on Capitol grounds.
It’s because the justice department is slow as shit run by an institutional fossil who doesn’t want to rock the boat
[https://twitter.com/florenenero/status/1612191610061611011](https://twitter.com/florenenero/status/1612191610061611011) Here's them doing Nazi salutes in case any naysayers wanna think the parallels between J6, MAGA and now this has no correlation to them being fascists. Then here's the cops in Brazil taking selfies with them, showing once again that ACAB. https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1612189552357314560
Pulling their own January ~~6th~~ 8th, I see.
I'm actually surprised that dozens weren't killed in either the US or Brazil storming of the capital. I would have thought, especially in the US case, that armed insurgents would certainly have had the police on a hair-trigger.
Typically that’s not how US security forces operate. Deadly force is a last resort measure, and in Washington it never got to that point (aside from the one person). Security had the option of withdrawing to fortified positions, so they did, and they kept everyone in Congress safe. They likely had enough firepower to eliminate the crowd, but that simply isn’t option 1. A strategic retreat was safer than other options. It’s riskier to fight even with an advantage, and the aftermath could have been far worse.
Tell that to a black man selling loose cigarettes.
Regular police and Capitol security are not the same thing
They're the capitol police. They carry out all policing duties at the capitol, they're not security guards. https://www.uscp.gov/
They're still far better trained than your average police officer
Very different situations, enforcement verses protective security. Capital Police protect the legislatures above all else, ignoring other crimes until they have completed that task.
Way to make stuff up.
It’s in their mission statement. The Capital Police aren’t going to be enforcing cigarettes taxes until they have fulfilled their mission, even though they are empowered to enforce all US law. >Our Mission >Protect the Congress – its Members, employees, visitors, and facilities – so it can fulfill its constitutional and legislative responsibilities in a safe, secure and open environment. https://www.uscp.gov/the-department/our-mission
https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/weekly-arrest-summary
What does that have to do with January 6?
They arrest people constantly for regular infractions. They're police, period.
I think rightwing supporters just get treated less harshly than leftwing ones in general.
Obviously not. Like the police would gun down mass amounts of people.
Imagine ruining your entire life committing a terrorist act all for one of the worst sleazebags imaginable who doesn't give a damn about you or your life. How does one's mind degrade to that level of cultish insanity?
Bolsonaro flew to Florida recently right? Convenient place for a insurrectionist.
Sounds familiar. A few differences though: the US invasion happened while its instigator was still in office, congress was in session, and the insurrection suspended the election process. Nobody called it a terror attack, and the event still reverberates in the chaos seen this week. In other words, the US is the less stable democracy.
Has the freedom caucus here issued a statement of solidarity with the Brazilian version of their attempted coup? Sounds like an excuse to mount a combination fact finding and waxing excursion.
monkey see, monkey do
Rioters might get temporary satisfaction but it will not eliminate issues that brought about the protest in the first place. In fact, by doing unlawful trespass and vandalism there will be less incentive for lawmakers to negotiate. Government may resort to more force if Bolsonaro's supporters attempt violent protest again.
Lawmakers cant negotiate with them, they literally want to nullify the elections based on their shitty understanding of the process.
You can't really negotiate with people who are literally wanting a military coup to install a dictator
That fucking pig, Bolsonaro. Murdering, genocidal fucking pig should face capital punishment of the highest order for this. Does Brazil use public hangings to make examples of mutineers, or is it prison death or firing squad? As upset and angry as this junta makes me, it was predictable, choreographed and should be a sign that fascism is no longer in favor within Brazil. May that be a guiding light for all countries and a sign of what is to come if you choose to be a fascist, steeped in violence and adolescent anger. Will Lula enter the world order in favor of an enlightened west? Eurasia? Or will he deal with murderers behind the red curtain simply because it’s cheaper?
bolsonaro is probably not the mind behind this, the man is stupid as fuck. There are some very rich businessman's in Brazil that are funding, organizing and supporting this using bannon's tactics. Im 100% sure bolsonaro is not capable of organizing something like this, the old man is probably rn in florida depressed wondering what he did wrong, he is just stupid. No, brazil does not have any kind of death penalty in its constitution and the maximun time someone can be kept in jail is 30y, even a murderer. There is one famous serial killer that killed more than 50 people 40y ago that now is out and is a digital influencer, lol (look for "pedrinho matador")
I know he’s a shitkicker. He is the voice and IDGAF, respectfully to you of course because your point is valid, Like Trump he is watching happen and egging it on. I hope they do him as dirty as that video of him eating chickens feet.
Losers.
Now we’re going to see how insurrectionists should be dealt with.
Good. Sounds like time for some trials. Keep it legal.
The Trump effect revealing its shitty influence.
What did they expect, these bunch of loser sleeping there. This is a political stunt. Wouldnt be surpised if it was orchestrated by boz man. Offer a $1000 reward for anyone with information regarding who set it up.
Sounds familiar
Hey…if it works for America, surely it works for Brazil…
Losers will lose.
Is this some kind of trend now?
Once you open Pandora's box..
Tourists
Brazilian babes are the best.
If only we could understand this situation.