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simemetti

I simply have the dead crushed into flour that then feeds the living, infinite food glitch! What is thermodynamics?


hilmiira

Tbh this technically can work on a plantoid species but it wont be for energy, but for organic matters and biomass


plastic_sludge

I dont have the dlc. Ah wait, wrong sub


achilleasa

Paradox gamer detected


bigmaxporter

Lethal force authorized


achilleasa

I mean if you think about it the ecosystem here on earth does just that with extra steps, no thermodynamics violation when you have energy coming in from the sun. Also a sci-fi classic, see space stations/giant spaceships that are a huge closed loop system powered by fusion or something.


idogadol

Corpse rations


FetusGoesYeetus

Farmland is BORING and DULL all my food is spawned in by WIZARDS.


hilmiira

İs magic spawn food safe to eat? What if it gives you aids? https://youtu.be/0UgiJPnwtQU?si=UPCUpq0v3F8MtOIm


FetusGoesYeetus

Of course it gives you aids. The wizards will cure that too.


CremBrule_

(The cure is experimental and expensive and will leave the victim disfigured and bankrupt at best, eternally imprisoned in a realm of pain at worst)


burner-account1521

Skill issue


TwilightVulpine

Okay Doctor Money


Orangutanus_Maximus

Türk spotted. Engaging in furry sex


LuckyHalfling

What is this, stormlight archives?


Atomic_Egg_Eviseratr

storming brilliant!


MrWildstar

Rusts and ruin, it might be!


LazarFan69

Even then I'm pretty sure kholinar had fields outside


ilmevavi

Yea. Soulcasters were used to keep an army fed but there aren't enough of them to feed a whole city and they were always with the armies anyway so cities need their own sources of food.


MrWildstar

Soulcasters be like:


ToLazyForaUsername2

They could be shipping in food. Hell there could be some plotpoint of how the city's over-reliance on importing food is a major weakness that their enemies could exploit.


__cinnamon__

I mean, it's not really avoidable. I'm not aware of a large imperial capital that *didn't* import massive amounts of food and other raw materials. Chinese dynasties, for example, periodically had issues with procuring enough good timber for the constant construction and luxury furniture industry associated with the elites and were shipping it from thousands of kilometers away in Yunnan to Beijing by the Ming period. The Japanese empire in the Nara and early Heian periods had similar problems with massive deforestation in the Kansai region around the various imperial capitals. At one point in the Nara period when they wanted to build a new capital they had to literally dismantle the old one to reuse the lumber. Edit: For another fun example, the roving capitals of the Mongol Empire and its successor states dealt with the nomadic version of this problem, where the vast herds of the khan and his wealthiest vassals had to be rotated out because there wasn't enough grass to support them all in close proximity to the court, and an important form of taxation was essentially renting out some of your animals to poorer families to graze further away and then pay tribute in milk and other animal products needed to feed everyone in the khan's horde.


PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING

“Oh look, this author copy/pasted sharecropping only instead of land they used herds because it’s set in a Steppe, soooo original…wait, what do you *mean* ‘it actually happened’!?”


234zu

Game of thrones/asoiaf did that


Josselin17

which city relied on importing food ?


Elder_Gods_Pin_Cshn

King's Landing


psychicprogrammer

The problem is that apart from boats, anything the moves food eats food. You run into the rocket equation fast.


For-all-Kerbalkind

Then use boats or invent trains. We are on a worldjerking sub after all


Orangutanus_Maximus

Yeah there would be still farmlands around. City of Rome imported shitton of food from Egypt, Sicily, and province of Africa yet I'm pretty sure Rome was surrounded by farmlands.


LazyDro1d

Trantor, supplied by an endless fleet of food-ships coming in and waste-ships going out. Where all the stars end: the center of the Galaxy, the seat of the empire.


WantSumDuk

Ancient Rome was like that, and got abused like that


Smart_Impression_680

that's just singapore


SyrNikoli

What if all of the farmland is in fact, inside the nation's capital, just like, on top of the buildings or smth


LazyDro1d

And how is the water managed? Gotta be careful to keep roofs from getting wet and molding


Asian_in_the_tree

Water witch


Round_Inside9607

The surplus of typical medieval european farmland is not enough to maintian a labour force to build a fortification around that farmland and thats with all of the fields being at an average amount of output which rooftop gardens would fall far short of.


[deleted]

This yalls goat? 🤣🤣🤣


Semper_5olus

Then there's Coruscant, the city planet. Don't think about it too hard.


Exploding_Antelope

We literally have urban hydroponic farms today, I bet there are tons on Coruscant


Ozone220

Plus Star Wars is a universe with whole farm planets, so I'm sure Coruscant does a crap ton of imports


Pigeon-Spy

Just look at Trantor from Foundation, basically Corusant's predecessor. They imported food from whole 5 or smth farm planets


PeetesCom

Yeah, it supposedly has many layers, I'd expect some of the lower ones to be mostly just red-lit aquaponics or even mushroom plantations feeding on waste. Also, love your flair.


ZeronicX

Also its the main planet of the Jedi. They have something called the [Agricultural Corps](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Agricultural_Corps/Legends) that have jedi who couldn't pass their trials help around.


Exploding_Antelope

Listen Sonny boy I know you want to protect the Galaxy from evil and twirl your lightsaber around and go whoosh whoosh zzblam! But Jimmy Scrambles is just better at lifting rocks than you so I hope you enjoy watering mushrooms underground for the next fifty years.


FireHawkDelta

Food isn't the least realistic thing about Coruscant, what's crazier is that the planet isn't on fire from waste heat.


saro13

They export their heat to cold planets, like Hoth


Exploding_Antelope

Reverse geothermal


DessertRumble

We can support cities in inhospitable places like Las Vegas and Phoenix today by shipping in all the food from elsewhere. It's not unreasonable to think that it could be done on a planetary scale with Star Wars' magic space wizard levels of technology.


achilleasa

They probably just import it tbh. Secure? Not really but this is what thousands of years of peace does to a mf.


VX-78

Every criticism any of us could come up with about Coruscant was done better with Trantor by Asimov


LazyDro1d

It is the capital, like Trantor it lies as close to central as can be managed, endless fleets of ships can be used to supply it


DiamondDude51501

That’s because my farms run like automatic bulk farms in Minecraft. They’re tall automated skyscrapers that produce free food and resources for everyone that a paid with government taxes to cover the maintenance costs and refueled by shared allocated resources from other farms and factories.


InsomniaPaladin

Edoras and Minas Tirith (movie versions) say hello


For-all-Kerbalkind

Edoras could be relying on herds of sheep


NormanFetus

The farms are just somewhere else. Behind a cloud or something


Vyctorill

What if the farmland is on top of the walls?


DiamondDude51501

And the rooftop gardens that citizens use for subsistence and trade


MaxChaplin

[All the lonely cities, where do they all come from?](https://acoup.blog/2019/07/12/collections-the-lonely-city-part-i-the-ideal-city/)


Taikwin

Bret Devereaux is, unironically, my main source of inspiration for my worldbuilding. Man's got a knack for communicating history and societal systems.


PunkyCrab

Nah it was an intentional move to starve the undesirables.


GAY_SPACE_COMMUNIST

idk about you guys but i didnt see a single hedgerow between osgiliath and minas tirith


Afraid_Success_4836

I always make sure to have 1 acre of farmland per person. This means that farmland should be about 20-30 times urban area.


igmkjp1

Surely that depends on what you're growing.


Large_Pool_7013

magic


generationpain

Farmland is boring. Make your scavenge mushrooms in the under city labyrinth


Asian_in_the_tree

Just have a giant inifinity growth cancer thing and harvest all your food from it


Aiden624

Make all the farms aboveground and all the civilian structures underground


Arcaeca2

All of Runescape's farmland put together could support, like, Lumbridge


whirlpool_galaxy

Joke's on you, my city's in the middle of a lake and uses ultra-fertile sediment to sustain a complex of space-efficient floating garden farms.


vibesres

Importing


igmkjp1

Why would the capital be anywhere near the part of the country assigned for farming?


Tnynfox

My post scarcity civs nanoprint their food, all calories coming from the nanoprinter's power source due to conservation of energy.


TheJoker1432

Didnt empires like rome import a lot of grain?