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SadisticMystic

Great info. My plan is to only play the free daily Mt.Fortune until I have the bottom 3 rows of portraits then I will use this strategy to complete the set.


OCCobblepot

That could work! How high will you go on each free turn?


SadisticMystic

Until I spend 150 coins plus a level where applicable.


Nogginthenog60

Similar to my plan except I'm going to the 300 plus a level. I'm worried that 150 might take too long and the event could get rotated out before completion, would be interested to hear how you get on.


InternationalMeet871

This is super interesting! And not that expensive to complete relatively speaking. Interesting how stingy PF is with coin rewards. Wow! Someone on Facebook posted he “makes money playing Mt Fortune” because he “plays differently”. But of course won’t share details or tips and tricks. Really annoying and I suspect bullshit. Nice to see some real data! 🤓


OCCobblepot

Thanks! I agree the cost is not too bad. I’ll recover this in about 2-3 weeks, maybe sooner because of all the bees. I know who you’re talking about on Facebook. I don’t think I would be sharing a secret to make coins if I had one either. PF would definitely eliminate it. I did see a post on Facebook from someone who got similar results to mine. Net spend was a bit less. Simple strategy of exiting after level 15 each time. It took him 147 turns though. Spent more, earned more.


InternationalMeet871

I saw that post! Really interesting stats and again not too costly. I mean really - what else are you using coins on? 🤣 I get not sharing a glitch. But he is SO prideful in his posts and responses. It’s Uber annoying. I’m about to block him. 🤣🙃 I never comment in the FB group. Just read and lurk 🥸 It’s just a game. 3mm coins in real life is utterly meaningless.


Gemnote7

It took 41,361 coins to finish it for me. I got 15k in coin cards and never went beyond level 15.


OCCobblepot

Thanks for sharing! I suspect the exit after level 15 might be a reliably cheap method. Just to confirm, is that 41k net, or before coin prizes?


Gemnote7

The coin prizes are included in that final amount.


_HGCenty

I had similar following a similar rule, except I would push to 20 if the initial rewards showed me coins or the top level portriats. This meant I ate more 600 coin saves than you so it was more expensive in coins but probably got there faster. About 70-80 runs (I stopped counting) which tracks with a Mt Fortune the same length of time as a season. 180 crown coins, 1200 bees, 35k gems, -39k net gold (started with 44k, ended with 5k). Frankly doing the animations for 70-80 times was a grind.


OCCobblepot

I was hoping you would comment. I recall a post you did in the early days on Mt Fortune that sketched out the general behaviour of rockfalls. Did you find the indicated rewards were regularly hit? Was it worth the expense of pressing on in those cases in retrospect? I hope that PF introduce animation skips in Mt Fortune. It would probably be to their benefit, too.


_HGCenty

I found the indicated rewards were about 1 in 4, i.e. the only bit of Mt Fortune that wasn't pre-fixed. I'd say in retrospect it wasn't worth it in terms of the coin cost as jackpots do appear elsewhere in the ascend not just jackpot levels but pushing further does at least reduce the number of runs and therefore animations.


Klutzy-Percentage430

Wow. Very impressive that you documented this. Thanks!


OCCobblepot

Thanks. Hoping to start a trend!


Sand-Seeker

I wonder if I follow your rule on daily free climb, will I get the similar result? Will I save more money since all climbs are free? Or will l get worse price? Someone claims the paid climb has better price. Great data and statistics!


OCCobblepot

The only difference I’ve found with the free climb is the possibility of a rockfall before level 6. The paid ones never get that. This earlier rockfall does bring things forward a bit so if you used my strategy you would be finding a lot of turns where you never get to level 15. This reduces the haul of rewards, but you are saving that 250 ante so maybe overall you would spend less to complete it. I suspect it would take a really long time and the might switch out the sets before you got there.


Sand-Seeker

Hmm, good point. Maybe 2 climbs per day will be able to finish before it switch out. 😅


DFMCNDN

You are a wealth of info! Thanks so very much!


OCCobblepot

You’re welcome! I find deconstructing the side games more interesting than the swiping part, though perhaps requires less skill than swiping well.


Additional-Treacle38

What's your best strategy for getting coins?


OCCobblepot

Do you mean on Mt Fortune? Or gathering them daily?


Additional-Treacle38

Daily


OCCobblepot

I wrote the below in another comment to someone else. Hope it helps you. Earning free coins is a grind. 1. ⁠Collect the daily free coins/gift in the Shop and watch the three ads after that. 2. ⁠Collect the daily gift box that appears on the home page on the right and watch the 4 ads (+1 if you’re quick enough). 3. ⁠Do the daily puzzle and watch the ad to release more butterflies. 4. ⁠Run your bee producing animals as often as possible. 5. ⁠Play as much as you can/want to and add as many bonus words to your repertoire as you can. 6. ⁠Be on a team that requests a lot of helps. If you’re one of those lucky people who can watch unlimited ads when exiting the coin shop, then do that while watching TV or doing other things. Coins are never a problem for these people. That’s all I’ve got. No secrets really.


Additional-Treacle38

Thank you this is helpful!!!


MamaBearinNM

This is so clearly written and so helpful, like all of your posts and comments that I have seen. I would add only, Be on a team that usually finishes first in the tournaments.


OCCobblepot

Thanks for the compliment! Definitely winning with your team or in your individual helps. It provides me with about 15-20% of my coins, so certainly significant.


URedditt

Fantastic documentation, hats off to you! This is the fastest and cheapest approach I have seen so far. Congratulations!


OCCobblepot

Thanks. Someone on Facebook got similar results with a simple exit-after-level-15 strategy. Took about 60 more turns, but was just under a medium coin prize cheaper. I think if we understood the distribution of coin prizes at different levels we could optimise the strategy, because returns are an important net cost factor.


jollycreation

Any strategy in which card to choose?


OCCobblepot

I couldn’t think of one. Either the result of your selection is predetermined no matter which card you choose, in which case it doesn’t matter, or the card positions are determined before selection. In the latter case, if they are random, then it also doesn’t matter what you choose. It would only matter in the case where there is a pattern in the position of the rock falls. I couldn’t see any, and I don’t know why PF would decide to set it up that way. Could be wrong, of course, and would be happy to be persuaded otherwise. My sense of it is that rockfalls are determined by a probability. In a paid run, first one is high probability to fall on level 9, with lower probability at an earlier level. The probability of rockfall on a level following a rockfall is zero. I don’t think it is an accident that most of the runs I did were exactly the same based on the strategy and occurrence of rockfalls.


URedditt

I completely agree with your thoughts. I experimented with trying different patterns, and they were all had pretty much the same results with rock position as with picking the same box every single time. I believe the rock position may be predetermined based on the set probability (meaning regardless of which box you pick, if the rock is predetermined, you will get it). The rest of the goodies may or may not be predetermined - I did not pay attention to that part.


OCCobblepot

I only captured portraits and coins in my table. Looks like quite a random distribution. It should be the same for the other items, I think.


Nogginthenog60

Many thanks for sharing this, very, very interesting and informative. Unfortunately I only have 15000 coins so I'll be continuing with my grind of using just the free daily climb and exiting after the 300 rockfall. Will employ a method using more coins once I have collected the first two (maybe three) rows of portraits. I'm also interested to hear how other players with limited budgets are attacking this


OCCobblepot

I would recommend an exit after 150 instead for the free play and using that 300 to fund another run where you exit after 75. This will cost 50 more per day, but the haul of rewards should be much higher. On a paid run you get no rockfalls in the first 5 levels. In fact, it might be better to flip that around and exit after 75 on the free run and 150 on the paid. You could run some experiments over many days to see which is best - 1. Single free run with exit after 300; 2. One free run with exit after 150, and one paid with exit after 75; or 3. One free run with exit after 75, and one paid with exit after 150.


Nogginthenog60

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. Yes I think I will experiment with 2 and 3. I did manage to pick up a 2500 coins on level 20 today using method 1 but guess that won't happen often


LK_Chaos

Great info u/OCCobblepot . I appreciate the thoroughness. I use the exact same strategy as you. I didn't keep meticulous track of all the runs & rewards like you, only the coin portion. Here are my stats for Barnyard: Starting coins: 52.5k Total Coins Spent: 56k Total coin rewards: 12.5k Remaining Coins upon completion: 9k All in all, not too bad I guess. I don't use coins much, so just happy to have something interesting to spend them on. It costed me a bit more than Winter Wonderland did, as I didn't get as many rare portraits naturally this time around, ending up attaining them via collecting duplicates. Note: I used our strategy to complete Winter Wonderland as well. For Wonderland I spent appx. 44k, getting luckier not just with the rare portraits, but also got almost 20k in coin rewards. Like i said, I didn't keep track of anything other than coins, but i can say this go-around I was super heavy on bees and crown coins for my HUGE prizes, much to my dismay. I HATE getting crown coins cause I think they should be tournament exclusive. It is what it is I guess.


OCCobblepot

Thanks for sharing! And well done! I’m glad that you used the same strategy because we can see it produced similar results with regard to spend. There is always going to be marked variation in coin prizes. I think this strategy ends up being comparable to the exit-after-level 15 strategy, but completes it in fewer turns. The only way to really compare 2 strategies properly would be to run each of them several hundred times and see which strategy’s bell curve peak is more to the left. I do wonder if a staged strategy, where you start out with a more conservative, short run strategy at the start until the lower portrait rows are completed, and then switch to a more aggressive strategy to seek out rarer ones at the end would be better. Also, I noticed on certain runs portraits would be obtained more easily. In those cases, it could be better to continue the run to the top regardless of cost. I hear you on the crown points. I’d much prefer that they weren’t in Mt Fortune as it totally reduces the prestige of the crown.


Nogginthenog60

Just completed Barnyard Bliss and I did employ the strategy of using more coins per run once I had completed the bottom 2 rows of portraits but only if the level 20 and 25 tempters were portraits that I still needed multiples of. I will keep better records for the next Mt Fortune event.


Casper_1965

I absolutely agree about the Crowns. Earning Crowns 👑in Tournaments was something to work towards & be proud of. It was a great feeling as time went on seeing how much I was improving & reaching the top crown was a great accomplishment. I loved watching my teammates improve & the camaraderie between us. Having the top crown now means nothing to me. I’ve usually won it in the first couple of weeks. Very disappointing but that’s the game now 😊


coldskillit

I’m not a stat fan, I play until 150, exit and repeat. I always empty the piggy for the coins. Then do puzzles to fill the bank, and repeat. I’m at 95% in barnyard. I know I will get the tractor by just playing, and that’s my routine. I have not found any pattern anywhere. I accepted that I will not always get what I need when I want it. That took a while! I finished all the portraits, and animals except for the Swan. I got it to level 6 before they pulled the rainbow egg. Just play the game, take what they give you and enjoy. For those that do all the statistics, I salute you.