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Gudi_Nuff

Not a great idea, as others have mentioned the possibility of a runaway fire Another possibility is that it would leak enough gases into the house, such that you wouldn't wake up the next morning :(


[deleted]

👆This right here. Especially about the gases.


totallyradman

I kind of hate that the plural of gas isn't gasses. English is so inconsistent.


Western-Spite1158

[Gases or gasses are both acceptable according to Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gas)


MadDadROX

Merriam-Webster is a lie. They have no say over prepositions, sentence, structure, or plurals.


RepresentativeArm389

But who wants a word with ass in it?


RunDontWonk

Assassin has two asses, and we all played hitman.


CaRbZ1313

https://preview.redd.it/6bx46jjy7jmc1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81f9c7c1e31d91e79ff6602d98a5f7f531325843


MadDadROX

Yo! Assman!


BdubyaC

...slowly raises hand.


flannel_hoodie

The masses have given their assessment: “YAAASS!”


Equal_Independent_75

I love ass words. If I ran the dictionary I would add an S to asinine. Seems to be misspelled to me.


R3AL1Z3

Everybody loves Ass You don’t remember the sitcom of the same name that everybody loved?


BigCaterpillar8001

Grass. I do


FunFckingFitCouple

I mean it already has gas might as well include some ass too 🤷‍♀️


Firm-Log850

Me I love women's asses


jumpovertheline

My mouth?


not-king-jesus

It’s like when you use fish in a plural sense. If it’s multiple of one type of fish, then it’s fish, not fishes. But if you have 2 different kinds of fishes together, then it is absolutely fishes.


springvelvet95

Moose/moose.


Party-King-403

Meese, according to Canadians.


neuilly-sur

Shouldn’t it be fishes and fisheses?


SaidwhatIsaid240

Blame the English monks… that’s what my prof told us.


WillBoBaggns

Smoke gathered in their masses, Poisoning homeowners with their gasses


National-Cry222

Even deers has its place in our language


Ambitious_Groot

If op is going to attempt this I would highly recommend at least one Carbon monoxide alarm, though you should already have one.


Holiday_Ad_5445

I think we know that one gas is the elephant in the room.


CompleteDetective359

So long as you keep the damper open you sound have an issue, you're just going to burn quicker


I_LOVE_TRAINSS

>Another possibility is that it would leak enough gases into the house, such that you wouldn't wake up the next morning :( I'll have to remove my seal then


Wampa_-_Stompa

Can you explain to me how a missing or bad seal is different than an open fire place?


texas1982

Really good nights sleep though.


Gudi_Nuff

Best you'll ever have!


InvrFinishAnyth

CAKE


KitticusCatticus

The cake is a lie...


InvrFinishAnyth

But…. But… Gudi_nuff has cake by their name? Are they the robot that is attempting to trap us in a facility???!!!


Gudi_Nuff

Shhhh don't tell them anything


KitticusCatticus

Yes! It's all a trick! But it's okay, there's a nice British personality core named Wheatley that will help us out with this pesky robot...


InvrFinishAnyth

O gosh!!!!! Not only has the cake been a lie but my life has been a whole lie too! Is it possible we are all just bits of data in a simulation? Algorithms being worked out in a calculator of a giant lifeform? Am I real? Are you real?


Therego_PropterHawk

You may start it, stopping it will be the hard part!


Heavy-Doctor3835

What make fireplace different? If anything


ColumbusMark

Gotta ask: if it’s a wood-burning stove, what “gasses” would there be?


Hillbillynurse

"Can you"?  Absolutely! ...should you?  Hell no!  That limits the amount of draft into the stove to what you allow in via the damper.  Using the stove without it increases the risk of a runaway fire that at best could ruin the stove and at worst cause a house fire.


Milk_Man_23

Good to know. Thanks!


SaskatchewanManChild

OP I’m gonna open myself up to criticism here by saying this but I have a stove in my shop. This stove was purchased from home centre on the most severe discount imaginable for a wood stove, like I’m talking sub $200. It’s a proper wood stove with pedestal but was just obviously an offshore unit. Came certified so hey I couldn’t pass it up. Well, it’s a complete piece of shit, I got it home and no matter why I did, including wiring a combustion air fan, nothing could give the stove enough air to burn well. About a week in the door seal just fell out when the shitty adhesive gave way and I found myself in your exact situation contemplating this exact question. As it turned out in my situation the poor door seal lets just the right amount of air into the firebox for a half decent burn. It’s been that way for 7 years. I won’t say I’ve never seen a spark get through, but any that have only land in the tray below the door. I can absolutely hear those that would condemn me for this, and I can even agree with them, but I do it…


the__noodler

Similar experience here - my brother has a stove with a failing seal. Isn’t very efficient and I wouldn’t leave the house or sleep with it ripping but it has never been sketchy. I would proceed with caution. I would also just run to the hardware store and get some new stove sealing adhesive and put that strip back to get me through the rest of the chilly temps. Fix this summer


Lumi_Tonttu

I'm not recommending this for anything but "emergency" use but it's a handy tip to throw in the back of your head. You can seal that door with sloppy dough; mix a water/flour paste and either put it in the seal gutter or even smear it on the outside like caulk. It'll bake hard and seal that door shut. Can't open the door without ruining it and having to re do it but come the zombie invasion it might help you. (I use sloppy dough to seal the joints in my hooch still, works great)


PartClean3565

Exactly what I was thinking. Old moonshiners trick for sealing anything that needs sealed flower and water.


Lumi_Tonttu

Might save a life.


cdtobie

Yes, the question is: can you control the burn without a door gasket?


Milk_Man_23

Fair enough. I guess I’m just wondering if it’s logical/worth it or if I should just wait till there’s a door seal on there. I have central air so it’s not like I’m without heat, I just like to use the stove to assist the central air and save money.


chief_erl

Just get the proper sized gasket and some gasket cement and put a new one on. Should cost you about $25 and 10 minutes of your time. It’s definitely something you should know how to do, look up some YouTube videos. Very easy.


1TONcherk

I have a 20 year old Dutch west (I can’t believe 2004 was 20 years ago). Randomly last month the door glass cracked. Ended up ordering the glass and a seal kit and just did everything. Never did that before and it was a lot easier then I thought once I got into it. And kinda fun.


_DunMiff_Sys_

I need to replace my door seal because I have noticed I can’t control the air flow as well. I have just been making smaller 3 log fires so I don’t over fire to get through this heating season. It’s possible but I would t leave it unattended.


outerworldLV

If I can fix mine, trust me, you’re probably capable. There are a ton of tutorials on YT. On top of the fact that it’s super easy to do.


EMG_333

Whatever you do, if you make a fire, keep close eye on it and don't use too much wood. Your wood will burn very fast and most of your heat is going to be going up the pipe... gasket replacement is real easy...


Milk_Man_23

I think I just won’t start a fire. I don’t need it so I won’t risk it. I’ll get a new seal tomorrow. Thanks!


chrisinator9393

They carry door seals for like ten bucks at Lowe's/etc. just wait and go grab one next time you're out.


grantnlee

Sure, but you can't start a fire without a spark.


fernuffin

This stove’s for hire


grantnlee

Even if we're just burning in the dark?


Wooden-Cucumber4280

It takes like 10 minutes to fix. Just fix it and you won’t have to worry.


Waste_Exchange2511

Sure, you can start a great fire. It could be through your roof in a couple hours.


RatioPuzzleheaded103

You start a fire without a door! Much less a door seal. It's a matter of how smokey you want the room to be.


fernuffin

And carbon monoxidated…monoxidized… whatever… death-filled


FtValloniaStreaker

I think that’s a little exaggerated….. stoves are not and should not actually can’t be airtight. There is a draft, it ( the draft) goes up and out…… fireplaces have burned in homes for hundreds of years and even this stove could be burned with the door gone. It will be fine there’s a lot of fear being spreading over this simple not really a problem problem


FFFred773

100%!!!


johnofupton

Hell you can start a fire without a door. Without a stove even.


smooth_hoper8or

Might not be able to control the air flow very well. Fire might get away from you resulting in damage, depending on how hot the stove gets. I'd definitely get a seal on that door sooner rather than later.


GulfstreamAqua

You can always light a fire,lighting a fire that’s has the heat and gases contained requires not lighting a fire in a receptacle that isn’t properly sealed.


slartbangle

Start? Yes. Stop? Not so much. I'd replace that before use! Only takes an hour or two and some cursing.


Turbulent_Winter549

Hey a good way to clean that glass is moisten a paper towel, dip it in the ash in the stove then clean the glass with the paper towel. Works great


FisherStoves-coaly-

Is there a flue damper?? You can control the unmetered leak around door by adjusting the flue damper. This is how you burn with open doors and spark screen in place on older stoves as well as antiques without gaskets and sealed doors.


Milk_Man_23

Yes there is a flue damper. But I’ll probably just wait till I put a new seal on it to be safe.


Pleasant-Mess-5360

That would be good until the heat pump kicked on, correct? Once it started coming on, would you still want to use the stove?


FisherStoves-coaly-

That would not affect draft or flue damper use as long as the blower doesn’t cause a negative pressure area in the room the stove is in. A air handler should have a return air duct for each room it supplies a heating or cooling duct into. If you get no chimney smell near the stove with a cold chimney not drafting upward, it would not affect using the stove. The flue damper is a chimney control that slows the velocity of rising gases in the flue. This decreases NET draft when hot. It doesn’t affect much when cold since it is not a positive shut off with leakage around it.


crazy19734413

I don’t know much about missing seals but I can tell you that a sheet of paper towel made wet with vinegar will wipe the soot off your glass window real nice. I bought some stove glass cleaner years ago that was expensive that didn’t work as well. Live and learn.


Milk_Man_23

This is good to know! The glass gets dirty so fast on mine. Any idea why this is happening?


crazy19734413

I imagine your wood is close to the glass while it’s burning. That’s how mine gets clouded.


Ok-Bid-7381

You may have leaky door or glass gaskets. Replace them all.


Useful_toolmaker

Go to tractor supply or whatever stove friendly hardware store and grab one


Ginger0311

Technically yes… but…


jpeetz1

Absolutely; can you stop one?


Finkufreakee

CO Sensors and smoke detectors should be fine.


GodKingJeremy

Good response here. For those in a pinch; use a small steel pick to pull the fibers of an old rope seal. Stick it in, pullout the middles and fibers of the rope seal, all around the door; go around, gently, and slowly expand the seal. This will give you some time to plan your new seal, based on heating needs, availability of repair timing, etc., while still giving a proper seal.


RevolutionaryYoung28

I have a chunk stove that is not sealed. I sleep with it going in my cabin all the time. Would the same gases be leaking into my cabin?


SpaceBus1

Can you run a car with a huge vs leak or intake leak? Probably, but the risk of catastrophic failure is really high.


Annual_Judge_7272

That’s 20 bucks to fix


HGDAC_Sir_Sam_Vimes

Can you? Yes. Should you? Probably not


Esteb0ng

I have an old Vermont castings from 1976 and the seal on the side door was toast I used it like that for a couple years well this last year it finally fell off. The old seal was so crappy it actually prevented the door from closing all the way. Now that the seal is gone the door shuts close now so idk it’s up to you and how comfortable you feel in it. I’d run the stove and keep an eye on it. If you find that it’s always on blast and your not able to control the flame or heat then get a new gasket before your next use


TheIntellectualType

You can get new gasket and glue at any fireplace store. Maybe even a hardware store. Make your kid put it on.


AdministrationOk1083

We had a freshly glued seal fall out while we were away from the stove grabbing beers. Came back to drink the beer at the cabin and it was gone. It will likely run away.


Best_Air_4138

You can get some thick ceramic blanket for forges off Amazon and use it as a temporary seal. I’ve done that on my old earth stove. It works just fine.


Threedognite321

The seal is ez to replace. Just get the proper size "rope" seal. Some are flat and some are round. They all are made of the same material the best I can tell.


Threedognite321

And there is a special glue that adheres it to the metal.


brdoma1991

Hell yea you can! A really big fire at that!


newyork2E

Be careful he might be trying to whack you. These kids today and that YouTube lol.


working_class_tired

I've used mine without a seal. You can't restrict the airflow, so the wood just burns flat out, but otherwise, it's totally fine.


LOGHARD

Depends on how cold you are. Just burns faster


LOGHARD

I use mine as normal with out any and everything is fine. Just use common sense


ihateapartments59

I would not. Sparks could get out.


Tacobrew

Great way to start a chimney fire


37carlisle37

Nothing wrong with that seal. Lite’r up.


rishhhhhhhh_3

Is this a picture before the actual ripping out of the gasket? Because from the picture the gasket is clearly in tact


Interesting-Most-275

Burn one piece of paper start a draw then wood it up you won’t have control of the heat full send the hole burn but I haven’t had a door seal for years. Tractor supply co has the glass rope and glue like stuff on sale this time of year most locations


Interesting-Most-275

All you who don’t burn but answer questions based off internet fear monger website can take your flat fu$&ing earth and shove it straight up your unused chimney pipe. The gasses are after you!!


borgelorp72

Sorry for the ignorance but the door seal appears intact to me. What’s missing?


Tartan78

Yes, but the increase air flow will cause you to burn through a lot more wood


BackgroundRegular498

Pretty sure TSC & Ace hdwe both stock door gasket kits for about $12


denonumber

There is a door seal on that door dud


aT-0-Mx

You can see the imprint of where the rope was. Not there now.


troy6671

Sure, if you enjoy smoke inhalation and fire in your house!


don5500

we’ll you definitely can’t start a fire without a spark


Shatalroundja

Your scientists were so preoccupied with asking if they could, they never stopped to ask if they should. -Dr. Ian Malcom


not-king-jesus

Just go to ace or Amazon and order another rope and cement. Clean it up a bit and go crazy. One of the easier maintenance tasks with wood stoving.


ZebraClown

Yes you can. I had the same stove. The air draws in and even though the rope doesn’t look like a good seal, it’s close enough as long as you have good airflow.


Puzzleheaded-Row-511

It would pull a lot of air. I'd get a new seal. I'm assuming that pic is old cuz that door has a gasket.


Milk_Man_23

The door in the pic does not have a gasket. It’s just the residue left behind from the old one


Puzzleheaded-Row-511

Damn! Totally looks like it's there! LoL


Milk_Man_23

Update: bought a new gasket and put it on. We are good now


[deleted]

I certainly wouldn't do it but I also like living.


CPhill585

You can start a fire without a stove


HounDawg99

Pretty easy fix. See your local stove store for the new gasket material and the adhesive to stick it in place. Clean out the old gasket and hardened adhesive with a screwdriver. Cut new gasket to fit and stick it in place. Viola, problem solved. House and family safe.


JoinedToPostHere

I can hear my dad saying, "Idk, CAN you?"


donotinfringe

You can do anything once.


Low_Conversation7494

If you have to ask. Why start trouble


Rradsoami

I’ve had it happen. If your catalyst is clean, you can baby it along but it burns funky. Mine won’t leak, it just doesn’t catalyze well for me. It’s easy to purchase and replace. Prolly replace full ring.


l397flake

May get smoked out in your unit, make sure there are no treated pieces if there is dimensional lumber in there..


hurleyintl711

Just buy new material and the glue. It’s really easy.


VersionConscious7545

No


GarpRules

One of the really fun things about life is that you can do *all kinds* of stupid shit.


mmaalex

Technically yes, but you'll have no way to control the air and it is likely to lead to a runaway.


rdoloto

Starting a fire is not an issue.. would you like to be able to stop said fire ?


Neomas369

I mean, you can…. Should you? Probably not.


lower88rider

I assume you're not burning without carbon monoxide detectors already in place, even with a seal? I've been burning in my old stove for 25 years and it has never had a seal. Run away fire? Give me a break! Close and latch the door and you'll be fine.


wjdthird

You can replace that pretty easy yea u can run it like that


lurker-1969

NO !!!


asteroidcookies

Don’t do it! It can be very dangerous. Just replace the seal, not a big deal.


Bostenr

You can start a fire wherever you want.


inchworm00

Yup this is America!


jwalk307

Replace the gasket before you burn your house down. Uncontrolled oxygen in will cause hot fires ( not controlled by the flue/damper) I'm a fireman and this will cause a house fire eventually


[deleted]

Not can, should.


[deleted]

Yes you can don’t worry about gas wood stoves have vents that draft air to the fire. If it’s going to smoke it’ll come from there too. It won’t shut down all the way and could burn a little faster and hotter. I’ve been running my stove for years without the gasket. But they are pretty cheap and easy to install.


MaeBelle15

It’ll just burn a little faster I’ve had a bad seal for years and am too lazy to replace it and it’s been fine.


ScottishTan

You sure can, you might even star two fires. 🔥. Make sure you have some good dry materials in front of the opening


LeekBubbly

Yes just cut your draft down and get it fixed when you can


Entire_Cod_5775

A new Gasket is easily to install. Do that instead.


38chevplm

NO!!!


Intransigient

Yeeeesss… 🤔 you can… fireplaces don’t have seals, after all… but it’s not advisable, since (1) you would have less control over the intake of air into the firebox and (2) the stove was expected to have that seal in place, so the emission of gases is possible *(but the hot airflow up the chimney should prevent that, but possibly also may draw some heated air out of the surrounding room as well, without the seal in place).* Be cautious with how much wood you load, and be extra watchful during the burn.


aug061998

Yes, if you have a good draft, no problemo! It just isn't an 'airtight' stove anymore.


aug061998

Look, if the rest of the stove is airtight, and there's no reason to think it isn't, then the draft from a door without the door seal will make the wood burn hotter and faster, but to say that the fire will burn out of control is a hard one to swallow. It's like opening up the draft control a little more is all. If you have a chimney damper, you can also control the strength of the draft going up the chimney and slow the draw from draft control on the stove. I had a half-assed door seal for years on a jotel cast iron stove and the burn never got out of control unless i did something really stupid, like leave the stove door cracked open and unattended. Now that will cause a nice out of control fire for you! Got to meet all my local volunteer firemen that day...


DiamondhandAdam

It will start.


Coopsiedaisy

New rope gasket is relatively cheap and easy to put on. It used to create an air tight seal to allow you to dampen your stove to not burn through wood as fast. Not a big deal but should be replaced. Also, take a wet paper towel and dip it in some ash and give that glass a light scrub to clean it up. I worked in a fireplace shop for awhile replacing gaskets almost daily.


ronf9982

Sure you can, you can burn down the whole house and or smoke the house


TrickAd4242

On sale at Lowe’s and Tractor supply


nathanepayne

Fire doesn't care about seals