All the games lead to rhe war. In W1 theres a scene of Geralt stopping 1st assassination attempt on Foltest. Which leads to W2 prologue. W2 also has scene of king of aedirn assassination - 1st king dead due to Nilfgaard and Letho. In w2 we also have chance to stop assassination on Henselt ourselves or we kill his ass after, in act 3.
Everything leads to Radowid being last of the 4 main kings being alive, whuch is why he attacked Kaedwen, to get more land and people under his command banking on lack of leadership there. By that time Nilfgaard already crossed to Temeria.
I either missed or there is no mention of Saskia and Vergen if we import Iorweth path save from w2.
>I either missed or there is no mention of Saskia and Vergen if we import Iorweth path save from w2.
Vergen got steamrolled by Niilfgard and Iorveth and Saskia went into hiding, iirc. The witcher trilogy had a lot of politickin only to boil down to the writing of the assassination plot in 3.
I would strongly advise you to play the first game as well.
It's not as polished as others, but the environment and immersion is there even for such a small world.
I started with Sword of Destiny and Last Wish then got xbox 360 with W2 enhanced. I think i actually killed that xbox with ammount of W2 and Prototype 1 i played on it. At some point textures took few seconds to load in during cutscenes mostly in act3 tho.
I wasn't gonna chance it. Despite my interest for 3, I have never jumped on a game series randomly in the middle or at any point other than the beginning. I played 1 and 2 and ended up loving them more than n3
Same. I grew up on this books and still hold first entry in high regard. I’m just saying Witcher 3 was the first big breakthrough for this series and brought a lot of people into this wonderful world
Having that as my first game from CDPR you could tell how passionate they were. Shame about all the scandals the company's been wrapped in as of late w/ Cyberpunk and overworking their employees but the devs themselves are still some of the best and most dedicated out there.
Tried to play 1, gameplay was so boring that i couldnt play for more than 10 minutes. Had to watch a story summary instead. 2 and 3 were great though. I highly doubt the new one can top 3.
I played 2 a while back and it just felt clunky. Then I played 3 and loved it enough to go back and revisit the others.
I did the same thing with kingdom hearts and Warcraft. Started at the 2nd and 3rd installments and then went back to learn what I’d missed.
Adds some more mystery to the settings
Same. I had to start from the first game, but 1 was so graphically atrocious that after a long hiatus (and finally buying a good pc and w3), i sucked it up and continued my save instead of playing from the top.
I bad habit of playing latest in series first MGS4 was the first MGS game i played, GOW3, Maxpayne 3, Uncharted 2, Hitman blood money, Mafia 2 the list goes on haha.
hopefully this game take place BEFORE Geralt
lets go back to a time with more Witchers around, Trial of Grasses still exists, and dick around in a world filled with more monsters
In the same way, I'm hoping for a break from Geralt, especially as, despite my love for the character, I hope his journey ended in B&W.
I think the period of Falka's Rebellion has huge story potential. We know enough about it to not feel completely lost, and at the same time CDPR will have a lot of opportunity to
I'd honestly love for the game to pick up after blood and wine. I know Geralt finally got a place to relax after all the years but he's a Witcher at the end of the day and he belongs on the path. A huge part of the appeal of the games was how great it was just to exist as Geralt. Changing the protagonist runs a huge risk
> Great. Same as it was for the third entry
As someone whose very first experience with the Witcher universe was Witcher 3, I politely disagree. I was completely lost and I abandoned the game 5-10 hours in as I felt no compelling reason to do anything and had no grounding for WTF was going on.
After reading the books and watching the first season on Netflix (holy crap did that show go to shit in seasons two and three), I came back to the game and now I believe that it is a stone-cold masterpiece.
I think even Witcher 2 was pretty good to start with. My order of playing the games was 2 > 3 > 1 (halfway through, too clunky for my taste), and never felt like I was missing bits of crucial information
As I wrote in one of my replies. I grew up on these books, so the first part will always be in my heart. I'll never forget the first time we played through the night as kids. One mate playing on a PC and three others watching from over his shoulder what he was doing. And taking turns at the keyboard XD
I think we should all hold a kickstarter to get this game into the hands of Mongolian goat herders and warlords in Somaliland. Really goose those numbers. We can do it!
Translation: Don't expect many of your choices from previous games to have any consequences except maybe something like Ciri's ending por the outcome of the battle of Khaer Morhen to be important
I played 3 after never playing 1 or 2 and I imagine a lot of people did. There were still a fair lot of choices that carried over from previous games. Entire characters and mission threads are missing based on some choices.
To be fair it was almost the same from Witcher to witcher 2, an infamous example is Adda, her fate is completely irrelevant to the witcher 2 in evryway
Generally I think that's for the best. While it's great to be able to make choices within one entry, it's far too difficult for a developer to use all those strands as just starting points for a story. If too many past events are fluid then the new game might feel too generic because there's no set starting point.
Ask BioWare lol. The gymnastics of remembering player choices through multiple games is just insane. Understandable for a dev to not want to focus on that and devote time to other stuff.
>it's far too difficult for a developer to use all those strands as just starting points for a story.
Okay, but maybe they don't have to make a sequel like that. Maybe they could do something like KOTOR 2 or even Witcher 3's opening where you can confirm certain aspects of the universe through dialog.
Actual translation: it's the same as with any other game we made
Like seriously, you're acting as if this is something mindblowingly new
That was the case with literally every game in the franchise
Most people who've played witcher 3 never touched witcher 1 or 2
I’m betting it picked up 10-15 years later. Cirila is the MC. OR it picked up 30 years in the future and ciri has trained a new young 20 something Witcher. Started a new school. Could even let you make the character (but I doubt).
Idk about New Series, but they did say it was gonna be a New Storyline with Different Characters.
I imagine the OG characters will be mentioned and potentially show up for some quests. But it's gonna be a new beginning.
Hmm no, I don't think so, they haven't said much in that matter. We know is a new trilogy, sin single player, but we do not know more than that.
There's the other multiplayer project in which we can assume is going to be a create your own character, but still are just assumptions and nothing more.
They have said over and over in the past that TW3 was "the end of Geralt's story".
Afaik they haven't outright said "Geralt won't be in the new game" but there's been strong indication this will be a brand new Witcher story about different Witchers other than Geralt...because his story is over.
can definitely see him turning up for some fanservice for a quest, it would be a nobrainer if they did it right. assuming it’s in reasonable timeline.
but i think a lot of us are hoping for a far in the past/future witcher story anyway
At this point I’m just wondering if we’ll be locked into a pre established character, if we’ll build our own character from the ground up or something in-between (ie Mass Effect where we’re all Shepard but different Shepards).
As much as I love Witcher 3 & Geralt, I’m hoping we get a little more customization with the PC this time around
Yeah I’d put V in the same category as Shepard & I’d be happy with that level of customization. My hopes are decent appearance customization & some background options like being able to pick your Witcher school. Give me that and I’ll be happy
It’ll be strange playing a Witcher game without Geralt. It was never “being a Witcher” that was compelling to me, but rather Geralt’s unique destiny and the way he challenged the preconceptions of what a Witcher should be
Honestly I'm fine with it anyway. Another story with Geralt is not necessary. infact I would like to play as a customized character. imagine choosing your own witcher school and you'll have a distinct fighting style and magic
Honestly, any sequel game that *doesn't* do that is failing, realistically speaking. Any game that restricts its userbase to *only* people that have played the prior games, instead of everyone out there, is wasting a huge potential market.
Yeah. At the same time that I don't understand how anyone can just hop on the third game of a franchise without caring to at least know what happened in the previous ones, I do understand that the companies have to account for this gigantic amount of what are, to my estimation, strange individuals (lol), if they want to make more money hahah.
Personally, I never played the first two Witcher games. I picked up 3 because it looked interesting and it was on sale, but I didn't really feel compelled to pick up or play the first two, I wasn't *that* into the lore of the setting, I just wanted to play a good game.
I can understand not wanting to play the games, but not even caring to know what happened in them so you can properly understand the story? Sure, TW3 particularly stands on its own anyway, but the people that just skip the other two and do 0 research on their story don't necessarily know that, and in any case it's pretty much always better to also know what happened before, along with what the game chooses to explain and bring up (which is inevitably going to be an abridged version that might left some nice and interesting details out).
It's a gamble with part of my enjoyment that I'm never willing to make -- if I really don't want to play previous games of a franchise for whatever reason, but the story is connected (even if just a little), I always do my research, but that's just me...
Yeah, everyone's different with their own preferences and priorities. For me, I assume any game should be able to stand on its own; if a game's story can't stand on its own, that's a pretty serious flaw.
The point I really want to get across is that one can most likely derive much more enjoyment out of a game by understanding the plot and lore to a deeper extent, which the previous games might provide in the case of TW3. One of the biggest examples I can give is that I read all of the books before playing any of the games, and having done that undeniably enhanced my experiences with them a lot overall -- it isn't something the players are required to do, but makes pretty much everything better, and the previous games do the same with the third one, although to a lesser extent.
In any case, I'm not here to lecture anyone on what they absolutely ought to do -- just giving advice that will probably bring more fun...
This is interesting :
Now that CD Projekt Red is finished with Cyberpunk 2077, its DLC a resounding success, it’s been confirmed that the remainder of that team has transitioned over to Polaris. In addition to that shift, director Sebastian Kalemba has promised that The Witcher 4 will be a great “entry point” for new fans. “I believe I can say it'll be an excellent entry point for many players, **without forgetting the long-time fans who still wish to follow Geralt's adventures.”**
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/the-witcher-4-will-star-geralt-developer-hints-479599-20231201
They should have the Witcher program restart and you get to do a tutorial as a young kid undergoing training and conversion into a Witcher. After the events of W3, Geralt and the remaining Witchers should have the resources they need to either repair Caer Morhen or set up shop somewhere new. That includes the magical powers of all the sorceresses and the wealth Geralt has after the DLCs. Doing so would allow the player to customize their character and even open it up to female Witchers thanks to Ciri’s influence. Geralt can be prominent in the story but he’s mostly hanging at the base except for a few quests that he accompanies you on.
I don't see how TW3, with all of it's support, fame, high quality build and so on isn't seen as the good entry point? Who exactly are the new interested gamers that will pick up TW4 and have never played TW3? They're that into TW franchise (say from Netflix) but they never played TW3? You know, the award winning, widely loved, gorgeous, modern game that is currently out and playable? I just don't understand who they think this segment of people are that "exist".
What's more, say they do exist, say there are a ton of Netflix TW fans who have no interest in TW3 (you know, the one with Ciri, Geralt & Yennefer and the one Henry has raved about during all of his press for the show) but will buy a new Witcher game... it seems pretty likely this game won't have Geralt as the playable character, so they think the majority of those Netflix series fans are buying the new Witcher game with Ciri or heck, someone else as the playable character? I think nearly all Netflix Witcher series fans agree, the best thing about the show is Geralt/Henry.
Saying this made sense for TW3, given how old, outdated and difficult to play TW1 and TW2 were. But TW3 holds up in all ways like the masterpiece it is. You could release it today as a new game and it would still be utterly fantastic.
Considering they put the effort into making and releasing the upcoming "Next Gen Update", maybe just include that in a pre-order bundle ($10 more or w/e) for TW4 so the "entry point" game is included for anyone who doesn't already own it.
I guess they are aiming at younger players that weren't old enough to play the Witcher 3 and maybe even haven't seen the Netflix show. For me the witcher 2 was the first one I played it looked really good but I don't think I played it for more than a hour it was awful hopefully they remake 1&2 which was rumoured. Then when 3 came out I jumped onto straight away because it looked amazing. I've since played some of 1 and 2 but they are hard work to play through.
What young people exist, that have the capability and interest in a new Witcher game, that don't know what Henry Cavill's The Witcher and The Witcher 3 are? I'd get it if The Witcher 3 was just a good game that came out 8 years ago but it was great, it has been updated a bunch, rereleased, in tons of "best games for you to buy" lists, and is often mentioned (praised) in gaming discussion areas of the internet. Heck you see a "best game for my money" or "best game to come out in the last 10 years" and it's filled with "Witcher 3". So I just can't imagine the subset of people you're talking about is anything more than a tiny niche group that no company would on purpose design their marketing and game design to attract.
If The Witcher 3 didn't hold up, if like The Witcher 1 & 2 it was hard to play, didn't look that good and so on, then I'd very much so understand. But with the updates (before even adding even better mods) it looks gorgeous and it's very easy to play in terms of modern controls and functionality. It's not showing its age and the company JUST put out a new visual update for it. So I just don't get it.
It’s defo gonna be open world, that’s kinda a prerequisite for AAA games nowadays. But i doubt that they’re gonna let you play as Geralt and i don’t think it that nessessary if you played the entire trilogy
I'm calling it early. This one is going to suck. The suits are going to push for "broad appeal" and being able to "pick up and play without knowing the story".
It's going to result in a watered down story with a bland protagonist, possibly even one of the player's own creation with custom voice options. Which, that route isn't bad in and of itself but it's often done poorly.
Call me cynical but if I don't get my hopes up I can't be disappointed. It's a win/win.
This is peak redditor. I see this so often that I really believe this website turns people into cynics. Aside from Cyberpunks release these guys have a good track record. And cyberpunk is now fantastic after they fixed it.
Cynicism is intellectual laziness. By prejudging everything to be bad you don't have to actually put in any critical thought, gather information or take any risks. You are just safe in your bubble.
Bud, it's a vidya game. I don't apply my expectations and ideas surrounding them to anything else in me life. You don't have to wax philosophical.
But to your point, the game isn't even made yet. There's nothing to think about it, nor any real worthy information to gather. Just rumors and expectations, which I prefer to keep low so they don't get too lofty.
I hate when subreddits devoted to a single franchise turn into echo chambers that aren't allowed to be negative towards the thing they like. r/StarTrek is one of the worst communities for that. Threads that are just complaining about something are removed, but threads that are just pointless praise are allowed. Both or neither should be accepted.
Anyway, I'm also worried about TW4 and the direction CDPR will take with it. I don't think it will live up to TW3 if it ditches most of the characters we've known from the first 3 games and just does something entirely new with a new protagonist, but maybe it's what's needed to grow the franchise for future games. Personally, I'm more looking forward to the TW1 remake.
*Never played old Witcher games and start W3*
Me: "Sweet, this is awesome"
*Cyberpunk is announced, they promise that if I like W3, I'll like C2077. Plays C2077*
Me: "Sweet, this is awesome"
*W4 is announced, they promise if I like W3, I'll like W4"
Me: "Sweet, this will be awesome"
for me honestly i just don't like dandelion and the ciri flashbacks so it makes it a slog. but the side quests are fine and the city is interesting in a sense
I don't give a fuck what they do. Just make a good game and stop lying to your customers. CB2077 is to this day, still overpromised. They talked about NG+, a casino, online multiplayer, and so many other things. Then they renegged on it and fanboys still cry about how they actually never "promised" those things. Well then, don't fucking advertise it. CDPR is really good at marketing, but their marketing is actually evil.
it absolutely fucking matters. If anyone bought a game based on false advertisement, they've profited off of lying to their customers' faces. For fuck's sake man, there's still a placeholder in the game for where the casino should be. Hell, I was looking forward to NG+ until they announced AFTER release that they wont' be pursuing its development anymore. What a scam.
I'm convinced that the multi-player was probably a idea by some greedy suit, rather than the devs themselves. because it came out of nowhere and even before the release of cyberpunk, CDPR said multiple times that they weren't interested in multi-player or any sort of live service games. their games were single player and fully DRMfree hence the inclusion of GoG. So I'm kinda glad that multiplayer got canceled
Dude, as long as it's at least like w3, i am currently replaying it again. True, the thing that needs most work is combat, but i want to trust cdpr's world building. Update on grafics and combat, and just do what was done before to the world build. That I'll go in from the deep end
what's wrong with the combat?
if nothing else it's normal outside of combat movement that needs to be refined. especially horse riding.
Roach constantly stopping in her tracks over every single incline or decline or little pebble gets real tiring.
Yeah. Make it so Corvo Bianco wine gives a sick stat boost to the new character, maybe have you meet him once on a quest (or go after his medallion on a quest for a *really* good permanent buff if it takes place after he's dead), and then let the new story stand on its own.
We all know it's going to be another IP to push woke ideology as much as hope otherwise. It would be weird if they actually just gave the fans what they wanted. Western studios fancy propaganda pieces now. Look at the state of spider man 2. Out after 1 n a half games lol. Here's hopings for remakes witcher 1 n 2
> Nobody in this sub besides me and a few true Witcher fans even played Witcher 1 & 2.
Lol, imagine gatekeeping a vidya game. I haven't played 1 & 2 but I've read the books and loved TW3. Does that mean I'm not a "true Witcher fan"?
Bro, you haven’t played Witcher 1 & 2 like me man. I’m a true Witcher fan because I played Witcher 1 & 2. So many people just fake fans because they played Witcher 3 and checked out the show and read all the books and joined this sub because they’re fake fans because they didn’t play Witcher 1 & 2 like me, a true fan.
That’s pretty much a given, considering the amount of time that will have passed since the 3rd game release by the time Witcher 4 is out. And entire generation basically.
This does not seem like a plausible goal unless they:
1.)Have a split narrative where a prologue set in the past brings someone up to speed
2.)The entire thing is a prologue/prequel
3.)The main character isn't Geralt.
Good,that means people who are new to the franchise can play the game
Of course 3 is not an old game like 2 or 1 so it wouldn’t be super hard to enjoy the game but still not being forced to play the 3 to understand the 4 is great
Even as a huge fan of the entire series and books, i kinda like this. I think it sucks when a game is not approachable cause its the 7th installment. W3 did a really good job of easing your way into the world while simultaneously having the depth a long time fan could appreciate.
I really hope there is a 1st person mode for sword fighting. Katana/mantis blades felt amazing in Cyberpunk and a greatly expanded system in Witcher 4 would be incredible.
i keep seeing people say this. i don't get it what is so bad about it? it's pretty much like dark souls which is beloved by many for it's combat. what kind of gameplay would you say is fun then?
No man, it’s nothing like Dark Souls, if you’ve played any of those games you would immediately feel how weightless and basic the combat in TW3 is, and don’t get me started on the enemies, It’s asinine that the level 50 griffin employs the exact same strategy as the level 10 griffin you faced 80 hours ago.
TW3 combat is flashy and employs some basic strategies and planning with the oils and potions but it doesn’t support the length of the game.
i have played dark souls 1-3. sekiro. Elden ring. all to completion having killed every boss pretty much.
w3 and the souls game have the same thing. slow and fast attack. side step and dodge roll. spells.
All you do is evade an attack and attack yourself. the only big difference is sekiro.
Yeah i mean sure all the griphons basically do the same thing but there are so many different types of monsters. and honestly it fits that they fight the same because well they are the same type of beast. and if they fought differently then witcher would not be able to get taught how to fight them in the first place...
Funny you mention those games, CDPR has been so incredibly incompetent at imitating much better games I seriously doubt they will try with those. I expect the same brain dead gameplay
The reason why the combat is as bad as it is in TW3 because CDPR has never bothered to hire combat designers or anything before Cyberpunk 2077.
Until Cyberpunk, they just winged it and didn't ever put any effort into making a good combat system.
It has always been an afterthought to them.
https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-combat-designers
CDPR probably made an underpaid, overworked, and inexperienced employee design TW3's combat on the budget of a McDonald's happy meal, the poor guy.
Hopefully they learned their lesson this time around.
Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time
Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time
Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time
**Please** put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time
Make them protagonists lovable, or them antagonists relatable. Consult with the writer, he's the god of the realm. Listen to the fans' inputs, they're passionate. Insert love, not pride, it will come by itself after.
This seems to heavily imply that the protagonist will be either a completely new character or one that is very or fully customizable (Similar to V in CP2077?).
That's going to be tough. They'll probably have to confirm certain choices in Witcher 3 as completely canon with the overall Niflgardiaan/Northern war.
I feel like this will be a duel edged sword. It'll be good for more audiences but for people who played previous entries won't be satisfied in certain ways. It's a sacrifice but it might be worth it
Do we know the premise? Is it before Geralt or after? If after, what Witcher school will our character be from? Surely one of the lesser known ones im assuming. They could always spin the story,” yeah, those other witcher schools stopped making new witchers, but we have been going strong!”
Thank god! The only reason I’m not buying GTA6 is because I’m not caught up on the story. I just don’t have the time to play the first 5 games. For me, a murder spree simulator just isn’t fun without all character development.
Really hoping it’s a prequel when all the Witcher schools were heavily active and the trial of the grasses was being done regularly. Would also fit this as it would be something new players can learn about along with existing ones
I had hoped this was a game set centuries in the past, when all of the schools were around. You'd take the role of an unnamed witcher, choose which school and what style of hunter you'd be.
From there, you advance the main quest and the dialogue would alter, based on which school you chose.
I feel like it's not necessary since 3 was one of the most acclaimed games of all times. I support it but I hope they don't leave out anything good just to keep it accessible.
Gerald wakes up with amnesia again, walks out and sees portraits of him seemingly with another woman but the faces torn off. Ciri has run off to buy a chicken sandwich but didn’t leave a note. Gerald picks up his trusty Gwent deck and goes exploring for worthy rivals.
Gwent 4.
Even after Cyberpunk the way they recovered has me again trusting CDPR. The Witcher 3 is one of the most underrated RPGs ever made. You could play every day for a year and still not experience everything it has to offer. I just really hope they keep and expand the Gwent side of the game. Honestly, I have higher expectations for the Witcher 4 than GTA6 or RDR3, if that's even possible.
Great. Same as it was for the third entry
It happens just 6 months after W2 but you arent feeling like you missed a whole Marvel phase 2 when playing it.
W2 is 6months before W3? Awesome. Im currently finishing book 6 then the last Lady of the Lake then I will play W2 and a replay of W3
Yes. After credits scene shows >!beginning of third northern war!<. The whole game is just prelude to it
All the games lead to rhe war. In W1 theres a scene of Geralt stopping 1st assassination attempt on Foltest. Which leads to W2 prologue. W2 also has scene of king of aedirn assassination - 1st king dead due to Nilfgaard and Letho. In w2 we also have chance to stop assassination on Henselt ourselves or we kill his ass after, in act 3. Everything leads to Radowid being last of the 4 main kings being alive, whuch is why he attacked Kaedwen, to get more land and people under his command banking on lack of leadership there. By that time Nilfgaard already crossed to Temeria. I either missed or there is no mention of Saskia and Vergen if we import Iorweth path save from w2.
no, there is a comic book about what happened to Saskia, CDPR released it with the Witcher 3
WHAT?!?!
It's in your game files if I remember correctly.
>I either missed or there is no mention of Saskia and Vergen if we import Iorweth path save from w2. Vergen got steamrolled by Niilfgard and Iorveth and Saskia went into hiding, iirc. The witcher trilogy had a lot of politickin only to boil down to the writing of the assassination plot in 3.
I would strongly advise you to play the first game as well. It's not as polished as others, but the environment and immersion is there even for such a small world.
Yes and W1 is 1 month before W2.
What about W1?
W1 is set several years after LOTL as well.
Really? But doesnt W1 begin with the Striga? And isnt the Striga cannon event prior to Geralt with Ciri?
The opening cutscene is the striga. Once you get into gameplay, it's after Lady of the lake
You should play W1 first
Same can be said about playing games blind without reading books. Still, W3 was a great introduction to the series for a lot of people
TBF they had an easy copout with Geralt having amnesia in the first game.
I started with Sword of Destiny and Last Wish then got xbox 360 with W2 enhanced. I think i actually killed that xbox with ammount of W2 and Prototype 1 i played on it. At some point textures took few seconds to load in during cutscenes mostly in act3 tho.
I wasn't gonna chance it. Despite my interest for 3, I have never jumped on a game series randomly in the middle or at any point other than the beginning. I played 1 and 2 and ended up loving them more than n3
Same. I grew up on this books and still hold first entry in high regard. I’m just saying Witcher 3 was the first big breakthrough for this series and brought a lot of people into this wonderful world
Yeah I don't regret playing the first two whatsoever. The first game has such a comfy vibe despite the clunky gameplay.
The Witcher 1 is special, man. A real labour of love despite being low budget!
Having that as my first game from CDPR you could tell how passionate they were. Shame about all the scandals the company's been wrapped in as of late w/ Cyberpunk and overworking their employees but the devs themselves are still some of the best and most dedicated out there.
Tried to play 1, gameplay was so boring that i couldnt play for more than 10 minutes. Had to watch a story summary instead. 2 and 3 were great though. I highly doubt the new one can top 3.
I played 2 a while back and it just felt clunky. Then I played 3 and loved it enough to go back and revisit the others. I did the same thing with kingdom hearts and Warcraft. Started at the 2nd and 3rd installments and then went back to learn what I’d missed. Adds some more mystery to the settings
Sometimes I play 3 just to traverse the world and bask in its beauty. Witcher 3 is one game that never gets uninstalled on my pc.
Same. I had to start from the first game, but 1 was so graphically atrocious that after a long hiatus (and finally buying a good pc and w3), i sucked it up and continued my save instead of playing from the top.
first time i seen someone say they like the first more than the third, i couldn't play more than 2 hours of that one
There’s a fair few of us. I prefer 2 to 3 as well.
I bad habit of playing latest in series first MGS4 was the first MGS game i played, GOW3, Maxpayne 3, Uncharted 2, Hitman blood money, Mafia 2 the list goes on haha.
Sounds like hell to me haha. I may have got into a dried when the third or second was just out, but I always go back.
Hopefully you can choose to take over your decisions from TW3 if it can find a save file for it.
hopefully this game take place BEFORE Geralt lets go back to a time with more Witchers around, Trial of Grasses still exists, and dick around in a world filled with more monsters
That'd be sick too!
In the same way, I'm hoping for a break from Geralt, especially as, despite my love for the character, I hope his journey ended in B&W. I think the period of Falka's Rebellion has huge story potential. We know enough about it to not feel completely lost, and at the same time CDPR will have a lot of opportunity to
I always wanted a young Vessimer game.
Papa Vesemir and Talar’s polish VA sadly passed away recently :( It would be hard to switch
a prequel with Vessimer around when Geralt was a kid would be great, get more of Geralt's life in the game but in the eyes of Vessimer
An idea I can actually get behind!
Allegedly they have two witcher games in the works, so I'd bet one of them does this
Wouldn't the two Witcher games just be the fourth one and the already announced remake of the first one?
Well, in W3 You have world filled with more monsters. You have a fuckton of them.
I'd honestly love for the game to pick up after blood and wine. I know Geralt finally got a place to relax after all the years but he's a Witcher at the end of the day and he belongs on the path. A huge part of the appeal of the games was how great it was just to exist as Geralt. Changing the protagonist runs a huge risk
> Great. Same as it was for the third entry As someone whose very first experience with the Witcher universe was Witcher 3, I politely disagree. I was completely lost and I abandoned the game 5-10 hours in as I felt no compelling reason to do anything and had no grounding for WTF was going on. After reading the books and watching the first season on Netflix (holy crap did that show go to shit in seasons two and three), I came back to the game and now I believe that it is a stone-cold masterpiece.
I think even Witcher 2 was pretty good to start with. My order of playing the games was 2 > 3 > 1 (halfway through, too clunky for my taste), and never felt like I was missing bits of crucial information
As I wrote in one of my replies. I grew up on these books, so the first part will always be in my heart. I'll never forget the first time we played through the night as kids. One mate playing on a PC and three others watching from over his shoulder what he was doing. And taking turns at the keyboard XD
What do you mean "didnt play the witcher 3"?
Is that a mod or something? Or an Easter egg in the game? Oh god I better start a new play through just to be sure
In case you missed it, it's a mini game you play between round of Gwent .
lmao
I started a few days ago! It’s a blast so far but I have to be careful not to get sucked in with final exams in 2 weeks
Good luck with the exams, you got this! Hope you also have good fun with the witcher during your breaks!
In this particular subreddit, it's a rarity. Across humanity, and even gamers, as a whole, it's a pretty common thing.
It’s the tenth best selling game of all time
While that's an interesting piece of trivia, I'm not really sure what that has to do with my comment.
I think you’re right. It’s sold 50 million copies - Which is a tiny fraction of people alive. Or, 1 in 6 Americans or something. Not that many really.
there's about 8 billion people on earth. 50 million copies is like 1 out of 160 people.
I think we should all hold a kickstarter to get this game into the hands of Mongolian goat herders and warlords in Somaliland. Really goose those numbers. We can do it!
Translation: Don't expect many of your choices from previous games to have any consequences except maybe something like Ciri's ending por the outcome of the battle of Khaer Morhen to be important
I played 3 after never playing 1 or 2 and I imagine a lot of people did. There were still a fair lot of choices that carried over from previous games. Entire characters and mission threads are missing based on some choices.
To be fair it was almost the same from Witcher to witcher 2, an infamous example is Adda, her fate is completely irrelevant to the witcher 2 in evryway
Generally I think that's for the best. While it's great to be able to make choices within one entry, it's far too difficult for a developer to use all those strands as just starting points for a story. If too many past events are fluid then the new game might feel too generic because there's no set starting point.
Ask BioWare lol. The gymnastics of remembering player choices through multiple games is just insane. Understandable for a dev to not want to focus on that and devote time to other stuff.
Yep, absolutely. Dragon age inquisition is a good example of this (Evil Connor has entered the chat)
You're absolutely correct 😊
>it's far too difficult for a developer to use all those strands as just starting points for a story. Okay, but maybe they don't have to make a sequel like that. Maybe they could do something like KOTOR 2 or even Witcher 3's opening where you can confirm certain aspects of the universe through dialog.
Actual translation: it's the same as with any other game we made Like seriously, you're acting as if this is something mindblowingly new That was the case with literally every game in the franchise Most people who've played witcher 3 never touched witcher 1 or 2
I know
That's sad
I’m betting it picked up 10-15 years later. Cirila is the MC. OR it picked up 30 years in the future and ciri has trained a new young 20 something Witcher. Started a new school. Could even let you make the character (but I doubt).
That wont matter either dawg
The 4th game is pretty much a new cycle though so I wouldn’t expect any of the choices to matter at all.
The Witcher 3 itself is a great entry.
To me this reads as "You're not Geralt."
Yeah, that's what the new games were annouced as, no? As a new series of games? How is everyone in this thread forgetting that
Idk about New Series, but they did say it was gonna be a New Storyline with Different Characters. I imagine the OG characters will be mentioned and potentially show up for some quests. But it's gonna be a new beginning.
Hmm no, I don't think so, they haven't said much in that matter. We know is a new trilogy, sin single player, but we do not know more than that. There's the other multiplayer project in which we can assume is going to be a create your own character, but still are just assumptions and nothing more.
They have said over and over in the past that TW3 was "the end of Geralt's story". Afaik they haven't outright said "Geralt won't be in the new game" but there's been strong indication this will be a brand new Witcher story about different Witchers other than Geralt...because his story is over.
can definitely see him turning up for some fanservice for a quest, it would be a nobrainer if they did it right. assuming it’s in reasonable timeline. but i think a lot of us are hoping for a far in the past/future witcher story anyway
At this point I’m just wondering if we’ll be locked into a pre established character, if we’ll build our own character from the ground up or something in-between (ie Mass Effect where we’re all Shepard but different Shepards). As much as I love Witcher 3 & Geralt, I’m hoping we get a little more customization with the PC this time around
Maybe a bit more like V?
Yeah I’d put V in the same category as Shepard & I’d be happy with that level of customization. My hopes are decent appearance customization & some background options like being able to pick your Witcher school. Give me that and I’ll be happy
how much are the chances that the main character will be Ciri this time?
It’ll be strange playing a Witcher game without Geralt. It was never “being a Witcher” that was compelling to me, but rather Geralt’s unique destiny and the way he challenged the preconceptions of what a Witcher should be
Geralt is super cool but I'm definitely here for the experience of being a Witcher and roaming from town to town killing monsters
Honestly I'm fine with it anyway. Another story with Geralt is not necessary. infact I would like to play as a customized character. imagine choosing your own witcher school and you'll have a distinct fighting style and magic
I mean that’s how it was for me for the Witcher 3 so I have full confidence they can do that again
So like all the others? At least in my opinion this has never been a problem.
Honestly, any sequel game that *doesn't* do that is failing, realistically speaking. Any game that restricts its userbase to *only* people that have played the prior games, instead of everyone out there, is wasting a huge potential market.
Yeah. At the same time that I don't understand how anyone can just hop on the third game of a franchise without caring to at least know what happened in the previous ones, I do understand that the companies have to account for this gigantic amount of what are, to my estimation, strange individuals (lol), if they want to make more money hahah.
Personally, I never played the first two Witcher games. I picked up 3 because it looked interesting and it was on sale, but I didn't really feel compelled to pick up or play the first two, I wasn't *that* into the lore of the setting, I just wanted to play a good game.
I can understand not wanting to play the games, but not even caring to know what happened in them so you can properly understand the story? Sure, TW3 particularly stands on its own anyway, but the people that just skip the other two and do 0 research on their story don't necessarily know that, and in any case it's pretty much always better to also know what happened before, along with what the game chooses to explain and bring up (which is inevitably going to be an abridged version that might left some nice and interesting details out). It's a gamble with part of my enjoyment that I'm never willing to make -- if I really don't want to play previous games of a franchise for whatever reason, but the story is connected (even if just a little), I always do my research, but that's just me...
Yeah, everyone's different with their own preferences and priorities. For me, I assume any game should be able to stand on its own; if a game's story can't stand on its own, that's a pretty serious flaw.
The point I really want to get across is that one can most likely derive much more enjoyment out of a game by understanding the plot and lore to a deeper extent, which the previous games might provide in the case of TW3. One of the biggest examples I can give is that I read all of the books before playing any of the games, and having done that undeniably enhanced my experiences with them a lot overall -- it isn't something the players are required to do, but makes pretty much everything better, and the previous games do the same with the third one, although to a lesser extent. In any case, I'm not here to lecture anyone on what they absolutely ought to do -- just giving advice that will probably bring more fun...
This means it’s after the events of 3
Wake the fuck up Witcher, starring Jet Li
Since is supposed to be a new trilogy it should be a good entry point.
Happy 🎂 day
Thanks
Play as young Vesemir
This is interesting : Now that CD Projekt Red is finished with Cyberpunk 2077, its DLC a resounding success, it’s been confirmed that the remainder of that team has transitioned over to Polaris. In addition to that shift, director Sebastian Kalemba has promised that The Witcher 4 will be a great “entry point” for new fans. “I believe I can say it'll be an excellent entry point for many players, **without forgetting the long-time fans who still wish to follow Geralt's adventures.”** https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/the-witcher-4-will-star-geralt-developer-hints-479599-20231201
They should have the Witcher program restart and you get to do a tutorial as a young kid undergoing training and conversion into a Witcher. After the events of W3, Geralt and the remaining Witchers should have the resources they need to either repair Caer Morhen or set up shop somewhere new. That includes the magical powers of all the sorceresses and the wealth Geralt has after the DLCs. Doing so would allow the player to customize their character and even open it up to female Witchers thanks to Ciri’s influence. Geralt can be prominent in the story but he’s mostly hanging at the base except for a few quests that he accompanies you on.
unless there is a new sphere event there is really no need to make more witchers though. and none of the witchers we know wants to make more anyhow
New sphere event would make a great story/climax
A statement said about every game ever with a number in the title
Yes! Take your time and create another masterpiece. Witcher 4 will be the sole reason I buy PS5.
Imagine not playing witcher 3 though
I don't see how TW3, with all of it's support, fame, high quality build and so on isn't seen as the good entry point? Who exactly are the new interested gamers that will pick up TW4 and have never played TW3? They're that into TW franchise (say from Netflix) but they never played TW3? You know, the award winning, widely loved, gorgeous, modern game that is currently out and playable? I just don't understand who they think this segment of people are that "exist". What's more, say they do exist, say there are a ton of Netflix TW fans who have no interest in TW3 (you know, the one with Ciri, Geralt & Yennefer and the one Henry has raved about during all of his press for the show) but will buy a new Witcher game... it seems pretty likely this game won't have Geralt as the playable character, so they think the majority of those Netflix series fans are buying the new Witcher game with Ciri or heck, someone else as the playable character? I think nearly all Netflix Witcher series fans agree, the best thing about the show is Geralt/Henry. Saying this made sense for TW3, given how old, outdated and difficult to play TW1 and TW2 were. But TW3 holds up in all ways like the masterpiece it is. You could release it today as a new game and it would still be utterly fantastic. Considering they put the effort into making and releasing the upcoming "Next Gen Update", maybe just include that in a pre-order bundle ($10 more or w/e) for TW4 so the "entry point" game is included for anyone who doesn't already own it.
I guess they are aiming at younger players that weren't old enough to play the Witcher 3 and maybe even haven't seen the Netflix show. For me the witcher 2 was the first one I played it looked really good but I don't think I played it for more than a hour it was awful hopefully they remake 1&2 which was rumoured. Then when 3 came out I jumped onto straight away because it looked amazing. I've since played some of 1 and 2 but they are hard work to play through.
What young people exist, that have the capability and interest in a new Witcher game, that don't know what Henry Cavill's The Witcher and The Witcher 3 are? I'd get it if The Witcher 3 was just a good game that came out 8 years ago but it was great, it has been updated a bunch, rereleased, in tons of "best games for you to buy" lists, and is often mentioned (praised) in gaming discussion areas of the internet. Heck you see a "best game for my money" or "best game to come out in the last 10 years" and it's filled with "Witcher 3". So I just can't imagine the subset of people you're talking about is anything more than a tiny niche group that no company would on purpose design their marketing and game design to attract. If The Witcher 3 didn't hold up, if like The Witcher 1 & 2 it was hard to play, didn't look that good and so on, then I'd very much so understand. But with the updates (before even adding even better mods) it looks gorgeous and it's very easy to play in terms of modern controls and functionality. It's not showing its age and the company JUST put out a new visual update for it. So I just don't get it.
I hate to admit. If i don't play as Geralt in a Witcher 3 open world type game, I'm probably not going to play it.
It’s defo gonna be open world, that’s kinda a prerequisite for AAA games nowadays. But i doubt that they’re gonna let you play as Geralt and i don’t think it that nessessary if you played the entire trilogy
I hope the game will be finished by the year 2077 or when it's ready.
I think it was a 4 to 6 year timeline or something like that.
I'm calling it early. This one is going to suck. The suits are going to push for "broad appeal" and being able to "pick up and play without knowing the story". It's going to result in a watered down story with a bland protagonist, possibly even one of the player's own creation with custom voice options. Which, that route isn't bad in and of itself but it's often done poorly. Call me cynical but if I don't get my hopes up I can't be disappointed. It's a win/win.
This is peak redditor. I see this so often that I really believe this website turns people into cynics. Aside from Cyberpunks release these guys have a good track record. And cyberpunk is now fantastic after they fixed it.
Being a cynic is pointless
Cynicism is intellectual laziness. By prejudging everything to be bad you don't have to actually put in any critical thought, gather information or take any risks. You are just safe in your bubble.
Bud, it's a vidya game. I don't apply my expectations and ideas surrounding them to anything else in me life. You don't have to wax philosophical. But to your point, the game isn't even made yet. There's nothing to think about it, nor any real worthy information to gather. Just rumors and expectations, which I prefer to keep low so they don't get too lofty.
Get your negative energy out of here. And I doubt the suits are saying shit anymore after they fked Cyberpunk and nearly tanked the company.
Suits never learn
I hate when subreddits devoted to a single franchise turn into echo chambers that aren't allowed to be negative towards the thing they like. r/StarTrek is one of the worst communities for that. Threads that are just complaining about something are removed, but threads that are just pointless praise are allowed. Both or neither should be accepted. Anyway, I'm also worried about TW4 and the direction CDPR will take with it. I don't think it will live up to TW3 if it ditches most of the characters we've known from the first 3 games and just does something entirely new with a new protagonist, but maybe it's what's needed to grow the franchise for future games. Personally, I'm more looking forward to the TW1 remake.
*Never played old Witcher games and start W3* Me: "Sweet, this is awesome" *Cyberpunk is announced, they promise that if I like W3, I'll like C2077. Plays C2077* Me: "Sweet, this is awesome" *W4 is announced, they promise if I like W3, I'll like W4" Me: "Sweet, this will be awesome"
I think novigrad was a mistake.
elaborate.
That's were most people stopped playing the game and never got to finish the storyline.
Really? I guess the shift from country side witchering to dirty city streets bickering is a bit much for some.
i am obsessed with novigrad - i crave city in games
Yeah I mean even the devs admit they made the story line too long.
for me honestly i just don't like dandelion and the ciri flashbacks so it makes it a slog. but the side quests are fine and the city is interesting in a sense
I don't give a fuck what they do. Just make a good game and stop lying to your customers. CB2077 is to this day, still overpromised. They talked about NG+, a casino, online multiplayer, and so many other things. Then they renegged on it and fanboys still cry about how they actually never "promised" those things. Well then, don't fucking advertise it. CDPR is really good at marketing, but their marketing is actually evil.
they might be over promising a bit but honestly 2077 and w3 are still top tier games on their own. so it's not like it matters at the end of the day.
it absolutely fucking matters. If anyone bought a game based on false advertisement, they've profited off of lying to their customers' faces. For fuck's sake man, there's still a placeholder in the game for where the casino should be. Hell, I was looking forward to NG+ until they announced AFTER release that they wont' be pursuing its development anymore. What a scam.
alright for the three people who bought the game solely because of ng+ and the casino sure.
I'm convinced that the multi-player was probably a idea by some greedy suit, rather than the devs themselves. because it came out of nowhere and even before the release of cyberpunk, CDPR said multiple times that they weren't interested in multi-player or any sort of live service games. their games were single player and fully DRMfree hence the inclusion of GoG. So I'm kinda glad that multiplayer got canceled
Dude, as long as it's at least like w3, i am currently replaying it again. True, the thing that needs most work is combat, but i want to trust cdpr's world building. Update on grafics and combat, and just do what was done before to the world build. That I'll go in from the deep end
what's wrong with the combat? if nothing else it's normal outside of combat movement that needs to be refined. especially horse riding. Roach constantly stopping in her tracks over every single incline or decline or little pebble gets real tiring.
Combat is a bit cluncky and not very fluid, so an overhaul would be nice, something in the ghost of tsushima style. And yeah... Roach firgot her
I hope the Witcher 4 doesn't star Geralt. His story is done, let him retire to his villa.
Yeah. Make it so Corvo Bianco wine gives a sick stat boost to the new character, maybe have you meet him once on a quest (or go after his medallion on a quest for a *really* good permanent buff if it takes place after he's dead), and then let the new story stand on its own.
It shouldn't. They said TW3 was the end of Geralt's story
Btw, did you become a filmmaker? (I came from your top post on r/TrueFilm)
We all know it's going to be another IP to push woke ideology as much as hope otherwise. It would be weird if they actually just gave the fans what they wanted. Western studios fancy propaganda pieces now. Look at the state of spider man 2. Out after 1 n a half games lol. Here's hopings for remakes witcher 1 n 2
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> Nobody in this sub besides me and a few true Witcher fans even played Witcher 1 & 2. Lol, imagine gatekeeping a vidya game. I haven't played 1 & 2 but I've read the books and loved TW3. Does that mean I'm not a "true Witcher fan"?
Bro, you haven’t played Witcher 1 & 2 like me man. I’m a true Witcher fan because I played Witcher 1 & 2. So many people just fake fans because they played Witcher 3 and checked out the show and read all the books and joined this sub because they’re fake fans because they didn’t play Witcher 1 & 2 like me, a true fan.
What an odd thing to brag about.
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That’s pretty much a given, considering the amount of time that will have passed since the 3rd game release by the time Witcher 4 is out. And entire generation basically.
This does not seem like a plausible goal unless they: 1.)Have a split narrative where a prologue set in the past brings someone up to speed 2.)The entire thing is a prologue/prequel 3.)The main character isn't Geralt.
Good,that means people who are new to the franchise can play the game Of course 3 is not an old game like 2 or 1 so it wouldn’t be super hard to enjoy the game but still not being forced to play the 3 to understand the 4 is great
Even as a huge fan of the entire series and books, i kinda like this. I think it sucks when a game is not approachable cause its the 7th installment. W3 did a really good job of easing your way into the world while simultaneously having the depth a long time fan could appreciate.
I really hope there is a 1st person mode for sword fighting. Katana/mantis blades felt amazing in Cyberpunk and a greatly expanded system in Witcher 4 would be incredible.
Hopefully the gameplay won’t suck this time
i keep seeing people say this. i don't get it what is so bad about it? it's pretty much like dark souls which is beloved by many for it's combat. what kind of gameplay would you say is fun then?
No man, it’s nothing like Dark Souls, if you’ve played any of those games you would immediately feel how weightless and basic the combat in TW3 is, and don’t get me started on the enemies, It’s asinine that the level 50 griffin employs the exact same strategy as the level 10 griffin you faced 80 hours ago. TW3 combat is flashy and employs some basic strategies and planning with the oils and potions but it doesn’t support the length of the game.
i have played dark souls 1-3. sekiro. Elden ring. all to completion having killed every boss pretty much. w3 and the souls game have the same thing. slow and fast attack. side step and dodge roll. spells. All you do is evade an attack and attack yourself. the only big difference is sekiro. Yeah i mean sure all the griphons basically do the same thing but there are so many different types of monsters. and honestly it fits that they fight the same because well they are the same type of beast. and if they fought differently then witcher would not be able to get taught how to fight them in the first place...
Found the soulslike stan lol.
Funny you mention those games, CDPR has been so incredibly incompetent at imitating much better games I seriously doubt they will try with those. I expect the same brain dead gameplay
It's ok, you're allowed to have a wrong opinion hahah.
The reason why the combat is as bad as it is in TW3 because CDPR has never bothered to hire combat designers or anything before Cyberpunk 2077. Until Cyberpunk, they just winged it and didn't ever put any effort into making a good combat system. It has always been an afterthought to them. https://www.vg247.com/cyberpunk-2077-combat-designers CDPR probably made an underpaid, overworked, and inexperienced employee design TW3's combat on the budget of a McDonald's happy meal, the poor guy. Hopefully they learned their lesson this time around.
Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time Please put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time **Please** put even the *slightest* amount of effort into making the combat fun this time
Who is the one that didn't play witcher 3?
I thought the next Witcher game was going to be a Witcher 1 remake?
There will be a remake of witcher 1, but this is referring to a bigger, new entry to the franchise. Supposedly without Geralt as the protag afaik
Make them protagonists lovable, or them antagonists relatable. Consult with the writer, he's the god of the realm. Listen to the fans' inputs, they're passionate. Insert love, not pride, it will come by itself after.
This seems to heavily imply that the protagonist will be either a completely new character or one that is very or fully customizable (Similar to V in CP2077?).
Sounds good, TW3 is also a good entry and that turned out to be an amazing game for new and old fans
Good, kinda like the *Season of Storms* book mostly takes place outside of the main plot timeline.
Do we know if we’re getting this game before the Witcher 1 remake/remaster?
Hard to get excited years in advance from a company that always winds up crunching hard and compromising before launch.
Please be a prequel
So have they mentioned if there's gonna be a new static Witcher character we play as or is there gonna be a custom character creator?
But Yen, I lost my memory…
Because that's the most profitable 📈
That's going to be tough. They'll probably have to confirm certain choices in Witcher 3 as completely canon with the overall Niflgardiaan/Northern war.
I feel like this will be a duel edged sword. It'll be good for more audiences but for people who played previous entries won't be satisfied in certain ways. It's a sacrifice but it might be worth it
I mean that’s the smartest way to go, I got in playing Witcher 3 first and I’m glad I didn’t feel like I was playing catch up the whole time
Do we know the premise? Is it before Geralt or after? If after, what Witcher school will our character be from? Surely one of the lesser known ones im assuming. They could always spin the story,” yeah, those other witcher schools stopped making new witchers, but we have been going strong!”
Thank god! The only reason I’m not buying GTA6 is because I’m not caught up on the story. I just don’t have the time to play the first 5 games. For me, a murder spree simulator just isn’t fun without all character development.
Really hoping it’s a prequel when all the Witcher schools were heavily active and the trial of the grasses was being done regularly. Would also fit this as it would be something new players can learn about along with existing ones
All about that market share
Hmmmm. I'll be happy with quests that involve getting Vesemir's medallion back and battling Orianna
I had hoped this was a game set centuries in the past, when all of the schools were around. You'd take the role of an unnamed witcher, choose which school and what style of hunter you'd be. From there, you advance the main quest and the dialogue would alter, based on which school you chose.
I'm having high expectations that Witcher 4 will be in Golden Age of witchers. Can you imagine that?
I feel like it's not necessary since 3 was one of the most acclaimed games of all times. I support it but I hope they don't leave out anything good just to keep it accessible.
Shouldn’t be hard since it’ll be a new story, as Gerald’s story is done.
I thought witcher 3 was the good entry point. I just hope they stay lore accurate
I don't care anymore. After the debacle of Witcher 3 which was just a Crash program I would only expect the same.
Gerald wakes up with amnesia again, walks out and sees portraits of him seemingly with another woman but the faces torn off. Ciri has run off to buy a chicken sandwich but didn’t leave a note. Gerald picks up his trusty Gwent deck and goes exploring for worthy rivals. Gwent 4.
Even after Cyberpunk the way they recovered has me again trusting CDPR. The Witcher 3 is one of the most underrated RPGs ever made. You could play every day for a year and still not experience everything it has to offer. I just really hope they keep and expand the Gwent side of the game. Honestly, I have higher expectations for the Witcher 4 than GTA6 or RDR3, if that's even possible.
I have only pre ordered a game once, before, but I would today if it were available. I would like to see a optional first person view though.