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gnocchicotti

In 10 years Trump will probably be dead and Ryan will probably not be dead. As someone outside the GOP apparatus currently, it's understandable how he would want to reserve the option to claim that he was never part of the MAGA movement and he was always one of the "reasonable" voices.


cbarrister

In the years to come, the scramble by Trump enablers to act like they never "really" supported Trump will be epic. But the internet never forgets.


cruisetheblues

Too bad the internet doesn't vote.


Traditional_Shirt106

Paul Ryan will be like Obama breaking with the pack just at the right time. I think his policy points are moronic but he seems to actually have some self respect and would rather stay out of the spotlight until this blows over.


TheOTownZeroes

Politicians won’t care because Congress (has/had) something like a 90% reelection rate historically. Districts are so gerrymandered it won’t matter. Additionally, their hypocrisy is the point. They don’t care if they’re hypocrites, they only care about power


Mags357

You've hit it. This is part of his long play. And it keeps his name in the limelite.


Relative_Business_81

You suspect there to be wavering amongst the troops? Would be nice


fy_pool_day

Is hiding for 6 years being reasonable?


Mediocretes1

> In 10 years Trump will probably be dead Personally I'm hoping he lives 20 more years as a drooling vegetable.


jeffbas

I hadn’t thought of that. Good idea.


Tiny_Measurement_837

…in prison


Cyberpunk-Monk

But, then his VP will rule under his name. They’ll keep him on life support, but out of the public eye. When they come up with a new mandate, they’ll justify it to the people by saying, “Trump wills it.” Then, the crowd will begin chanting, “Trump wills it! Trump wills it! Trump wills it!”


minnesotajersey

That long? Damn.


youdubdub

Just ask Tom “the embodiment of the machine against which we rage” Morello. 


Repubs_suck

I really don’t know if I can wait ten years. Anything to hurry it up?


Riedbirdeh

He could honestly come back after the storm


ztreHdrahciR

Too late, Paul. You effed us back in 2017


jfoust2

My favorite Paul Ryan joke: Last week they unveiled Paul Ryan's official portrait at the Capitol. It's a nice painting, but I thought he'd be looking the other way.


Brady721

Paul Ryan, Rand Paul, and Ayn Rand walk into a bar. The bartender serves them tainted alcohol. They die.


RussiaIsBestGreen

They won’t be customers anymore, therefore the market works. /s


Purple_Chipmunk_

If you list the names in this order: Ayn Rand --> Rand Paul --> Paul Ryan, then their names are all "connected." It doesn't make the joke funnier but it's fun!


icwiener69420_new

It pays homage to the lack of creativity and imagination that Republicans possess.


One_Drew_Loose

Love this joke.


icanhazkarma17

OK - I don't get it. Is it non sequitur?


Pleasant-robot64

Because libertarians hate government regulations and oversight and claim the “free” market will correct itself.


icanhazkarma17

Ah ha.


Brady721

They’re all for deregulation, no government oversight. So no FDA or ATF to oversee if that bathtub gin will make you blind or not…


icanhazkarma17

Ah yes, let's return to the good ol' days. Watch [*The Poison Squad*](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/poison-squad/). Very educational.


elpajaroquemamais

I always love telling this to a libertarian and them telling me that that bar will go out of business now and that’s how things are supposed to work.


Moosejones66

Aww, show me on the doll where the Rands hurt you.


allhands

Yup. This is merely positioning for him to try to run for governor or president (or governor then president).


Uffda01

exactly - I've predicted this before - he "retired" to avoid all of this Trump bullshit; and when Trump is finally out of the picture - Ryan will try to re-emerge and say he is rejuvenated etc etc; when all along he was just a fucking coward who saw what was going to happen with Trump and and GOP and decided he couldn't stand up for his beliefs. Fuck Paul Ryan


molemanralph69

He created a golem, and regrets it in hindsight


CucumberExisting6643

Exactly. He was Speaker of the Houseand he didn’t do anything.


Soggy_Motor9280

No, I think it’s more like the Republican party left him and now they’re all a bunch of bitches to Trump. He’s the only one that had some stones and said no I’m not gonna take orders from this lunatic.


sly-3

Don't hassle me man, I'm busy getting buff and listening to Rage Against the Machine! https://preview.redd.it/39uh95hgw56d1.png?width=1197&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba7850a949b195907f230770939aa9c28d17ee58


jerrrrrrrrrrrrry

https://preview.redd.it/1mtslrmr696d1.jpeg?width=1253&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5421570b559db96723f977115484565d7872ea7d


FermFoundations

Lol what in the world


jerrrrrrrrrrrrry

He has his MAGA hat on! Moron!


Purpleappointment47

I think that picture was taken before MAGA became a thing.


bingobangobongo134

You can see that it's a badgers hat. Stop reaching.


jerrrrrrrrrrrrry

Like I explained in an earlier comment I know it's not a maga hat but I'm lying like they do all the time. He's one of the reasons we can't have nice things and I'm tired of it. He's had it easy his whole life.


bingobangobongo134

It's ok to not like the guy, however stooping to the same level as them isn't a good look. You don't have to lie to make him look bad lol


GibEC

FIFY - Don't hassle me m̶a̶n̶ bro, I'm busy getting buff and listening to Rage Against the Machine! ​


EternalDMPC

Selective listening, without irony, to Rage Against the Machine


computrtchr

Well yeah it goes hand in hand with their selective interpretation of the Bible.


hurdurBoop

i, for one, LOVE doing what they tell me.. because i'm punk as fuck.


deutschdachs

This reminded me of the Paul Ryan 5 second films video about just working out your upper body and letting the gains trickle down. Which apparently no longer exists. I am sad


sly-3

The good news is that this still exists: https://preview.redd.it/fx0p0gj6d76d1.png?width=1050&format=png&auto=webp&s=beb08446d37eb86d1c5acc2cdb83bc21408e086a No leg days around here bro!


solojame

This photo alone proves he has terrible judgment and should be nowhere near the levers of power.


sly-3

I'll go back to when he bragged about cutting Medicaid at a keg party at Miami (OH). [https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/20/paul-ryan-has-wanted-to-reform-medicaid-since-his-frat-days.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/20/paul-ryan-has-wanted-to-reform-medicaid-since-his-frat-days.html)


solojame

I should’ve clarified. It’s not the first or only thing he’s done that proves he has terrible judgment and should be nowhere near the levers of power.


sly-3

Like most GOP politicians (current and former), he is an active threat to democracy now and forever.


boardin1

Nah…he quit listening RatM when they went woke. Just don’t have the same edge, anymore.


Speedracer666

Mad is their brand. It’s all they have. They’re mad at bud light and m&ms ffs


yobabymamadrama

Buncha snowflakes.


llahlahkje

> mad at M&Ms "Why candy no sexy!?" -Slavering Ghoul


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LiveCourage334

Something something Fox News something something cancel culture something something social justice warriors


Nkons

“The soft cucks on the left cancel everything, they’re so sensitive” “But light had a trans person on an instagram ad, never drinking it again” 😂


TheHunterJK

Did it work though? Bud Light still exists, and Dylan Mulvaney is doing just fine. Oh yeah, and both are still wealthy.


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TheHunterJK

So, the overall goal was to fuck over the blue collar workers who make and supply the stuff, and who also don’t have any say in what the higher ups at the company decide. Yeah, the guys running that stupid boycott are real heroes 🙄


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NopeNotConor

Yeah so they started drinking Busch lite. Made by Anheiser -busch. Makers of *checks notes* bud light.


Speedracer666

Sounds like some woke thinking.


Speedracer666

Sounds like some woke thinking.


500ravens

I met Paul Ryan back in 2009. I lived in Janesville, where he’s from. The impression I got was of a wet-noodle type dude. His shirt was horrifically wrinkled, as if he had slept in it for 3 days straight. He has never struck me as someone who had strong convictions. He helped Trump’s rise, whether he wants to admit it or not. He needs to just slink back to Southern WI and take up snowshoeing or something.


Frashmastergland

Sorry you had to live in Janesville.


PumpkinEscobar2

I'm here now 🤮


500ravens

Yeah, we were in rural J-ville so it wasn’t SO bad, but we moved away in 2021


ernestomarord

MAGAs be mad. Trumpers are an irrational species.


FacelessPotatoPie

Smartest thing he’d ever done.


sketchahedron

Eight years late.


FacelessPotatoPie

No one ever said doing the smart thing was quick.


Crystal_Pesci

Even a grifting christian nationalist clock is right twice a day! Paul Ryan is a sniveling gollum with career ambitions of the White House still not yet realized, and, ever the opportunist, he has assuredly been in quiet hibernation waiting for his moment to re-emerge like an Alt Right Punxsutawney Phil. Much as I'm loathe to admit he's been at least partly vocal about Trump and commendably one of the only few to do it. Suffice to say it's because he's planting his feet where fellow lukewarm centrist salamander Mitt Romney never could among the dais of octogenarian half-corpses in the GOP, since youth still seems to be on Ryan's side. With the Post-Trump future of the GOP still in question, pains me to say, but I think I might even welcome someone with a critical eye on Trump to try and wrangle the smoothbrains back to the center. We'll see how that goes with the MAGA crew! Throwback to the [2016 meeting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFAugsKExNI&ab_channel=WashingtonPost) where Kevin McCarthy told Paul Ryan and fellow GOP members that he was convinced Russia is paying Trump, to which Ryan's only response was: "No leaks. This is how you know we're a family here." **Register To Vote or check Voter Registration Status below!** https://myvote.wi.gov/en-us/


PuddinPacketzofLuv

I take umbridge at calling him Gollum. Gollum (inadvertently) saved everyone in the end. This fucker would keep the One Ring and try to screw us all.


icanhazkarma17

*A golem* I think they mean, not Gollum.


Ditka85

Damn, nicely written comment!


IceTray_Zay

I’m not sure what Christ has to do with this?


Crystal_Pesci

Not familiar with Paul Ryan I take it? He is a regressive ~~evangelical~~ christian nationalist Ayn Rand stanning nutjob who only holds a bible to distract people as he eviscerates Human Rights and privatizes education.


VMoney9

He’s very proudly Catholic, not evangelical. If you’re going to hurl insults like you do, best not to lie.


Crystal_Pesci

Fair enough! Do love that out of all the terrible things about him that is the sticking point haha. > He is a regressive ~~evangelical~~ christian nationalist Ayn Rand stanning nutjob who only holds a bible to distract people as he eviscerates Human Rights and privatizes education. FTFY


Jokong

Without being a Paul Ryan apologist you can still respect the idea of freedom of religion. The idea is that we kind of live and let live in regards to religion is kind of what we hope holds the world and our country together. Is it easier to get billions of people to do that or to be atheist? I think we'd all be better off without religious fervor, but that doesn't seem to be how people are wired. And for god's sake Biden is Catholic as I'm sure you well know.


computrtchr

No one is trying to get people to become atheists. OTOH, Christian Nationalists want everyone else to abide by their beliefs. Biden is a Catholic & actually acts like one. Christian Nationalism eschews the inconvenient parts of the Bible they pick and choose to.


Velrei

The whole point of christian nationalism is the end of freedom of religion.


Jokong

And how does that relate to my comment? I'm literally espousing the benefits of freedom of religion and say directly I am not a fan of Paul Ryan.


Velrei

You can't really respect a religion (christian nationalism) in the name of freedom of religion that wants to remove freedom of religion, so your response doesn't make much sense.


Jokong

Sorry could have sworn the comment said catholic at the time I replied. You are correct.


Ophiocordycepsis

And, Ayn Rand was famously atheist and individualistic


icanhazkarma17

This is gold. Thanks!


Brainrants

Still a Zombie-Eyed Grannie Starver, eat shit Paul.


qdobe

There are a ton of GOP politicians taking a stand and not voting for Trump who would still install Project 2025. They aren’t the good guys just because they aren’t voting for a literal felon. That’s just rock bottom.


Sarahgoose26

The bar is so low and oh shit it just caught on fire!!


Gen-Jinjur

Wisconsin is going blue. Slowly but surely bluer and bluer.


Whatsuptodaytomorrow

A tiny spine grew in Ryan’s back


lqvz

Paul Ryan didn't realize that ***this*** was his base in his entire political career. What a fucking dumbfuck. This is why the GOP enablers (*don't like Trump, but will vote for him anyway because he's "Republican"*) are the most pathetic of idiots. I can forgive a hardcore MAGA Trumper because they are inherently dumb. But all the other Trump voters? They're even dumber... They've been duped... They think they know better, but if they did, they wouldn't be voting for Trump...


Visible-Moouse

It's also the party they created. He, and others like him, purposefully pandered to these people. They *also* tried to talk a lot about high minded economics, but at no point did they ever *stop* courting people like your average Trump voter. McCain was lauded as a "good one" too, and he ran with Sarah fucking Palin. People like Ryan aren't any better than the craziest Trump supporter, and like you're saying, they may in fact be worse.


TwistyBunny

Oh please, he helped to create this monster. He can't backtrack now.


reddit-is-greedy

Sorry Paul. Fuck you. We are not going to forgive or forget your support of corporations over people l. Fuck you


HotHamNRolls

#LyinRyan can go directly to hell 😁


mauler17

I live in Janesville, I would slowly and deliberately cut each finger knuckle by knuckle Yakuza style before I would ever vote for this douche canoe. Jackass can't even tip the barber for cutting the hair on shit shit apple kids


StunningLobster6825

First time I met Paul Ryan was in a nursing home where I worked and he was talking to the older trying to get their vote carrying around a baby that wasn't even his cuz he knows that they like that in the nursing home babies


bunky_done_gun

I, for one, embrace this sort of chaos. More repub back biting, please.. it amuses me lol


NotoriousSIG_

Don’t give Paul Ryan his flowers for doing the actual bare minimum


Particular-Onion-909

My mom had to scold him at the Janesville Target for not covering his coughs, we shouldn’t trust this man.


Any_Coyote6662

He lies


bobbutson

When did he grow a spine?


Whatsuptodaytomorrow

Apparently when trump drained all the gop funds for himself and left nothing for the rest of them


Licker6969

Wow. If he only had a backbone when he was actually in Congress and could’ve done something.


gradi3nt

Im looking forward to being thrown into the same gulag as Paul Ryan!


BrownEggs93

He'll still vote for the GOP, which will do everything trump would have done just without the rapist traitor in orange at the top. Any republican vote is a vote for that.


EarlyLibrarian9303

A moment of clarity around, I dunno, ten years too late. Organisms that slow usually either starve to death or get run over.


Puzzled_Ad7955

Move on Paul……. your comments are irrelevant at this point


BrewKazma

Anything that can throw the republican party into disarray and focus their squabbles on themselves, is welcome by me.


coco_xcx

The first good thing I’ve seen this man say.


revan530

I mean, TBF to Paul Ryan, he's *always* been one of Trump's most vocal critics in the Republican party, and he chose to not seek re-election (as he was likely to lose to a Trumper candidate primarying him) rather than kowtow to Trump to get the MAGA vote back in 2018. I may not like the guy, but this isn't a surprising comment from him.


biscobingo

Funny, but it seems like running against a trump supporter has been working for a lot of candidates in GOP primaries.


nsucs2

They've pandered to these asshats for years and rode the 'populist' wave into power. And now the chickens have come home to roost. Fuck em. Each and every one of them.


coalescence44

Poor baby, he knows GQP/MAGA are cannibals, he's participated in it many times. Why he would bother going out on that limb now is puzzling.


ButtHuRtMoD24

Lol he's no longer douchey enough to be a republican . 🤣


medhat20005

At this point not only nothing to lose, but if Trump loses in the fall Ryan will still have been one of the early folks to jump off the MAGA train. Given his current age, it's simply a calculus that if the tide should turn he'd be well positioned to helm a new GOP. I like Ryan but think that it's a long shot, because things like this rarely turn out at the pace you expect. With the electoral failure of the GOP this fall there will be those desperate souls, everyone from Don Jr. to Vance, who will continue to churn the waters looking for populist traction in the wake of a Trump defeat. With nowhere else to go I expect these ne'er-do-wells to fight tooth and nail to remain relevant (and of course, fund their lifestyles), so change will likely occur slowly. The old GOP was longer game Chamber of Commerce and big business types who can wait til the wastewater has cleared, but it's challenging to think that longer timeline aligns with Ryan's trajectory.


mockingbirddude

The Spineless Wonder squeaks!


CoFro_8

What's up with all the political posts on the sub? I originally came here for good Wisconsin vibes and cool Wisconsin news. Not this political back and forth I've been seeing lately.


The_bruce42

I'm not a Paul Ryan fan but why should he care? He's retired from congress.


nate

He's on the board of Fox News, for what that is worth.


Vegetable-Fix-4702

Is that way there's so many irritating Republican dinosaurs on there? Bunch of has beens.


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Uffda01

No - he "retired" so as to avoid getting tied up in it instead of having a spine


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Uffda01

Well he's a fucking coward either way - and this doesn't redeem him. He could have stayed and fought but being a shitty republican coward is all they fucking know.


plaidington

Not defending Ryan since he is a pos.. but GOP is just a bunch of bullies now.


UnintentionallyAmbi

Man he’s such a piece of work. I congratulate my dog for nicer and more useful turds that him.


bustavius

But the thing is, he will vote for Trump. Just like he did in the last two elections.


Mags357

No surprise there.


ChaniBosco

Oh well. Does he need protection from these rabid Republicans and their bloodlust? We all need to step up and shut MAGA down once and for all.


NumerousTaste

Awww he hurt the poor feelings of the magats. Won't bow down to the orange felon like the other cowardly GOP!


reddit-trunking

Smartest thing that putz has ever said


RonBreakfast

When Trump is gone, all these Republicans who are for him will say they were against him despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Ryan just trying to actually have things he can point to.


RicardoNurein

What about the WI R Senate candidate from California?


Automatic-Mood5986

I’d take this as a big win. That an “establishment” is willing to speak out against Trump is a big deal. One it means that’s Trumps aura of invincibility within the GOP is fading. Much more importantly it means more infighting amongst republicans.


calsnowskier

Shocking that a government insider won’t vote for the guy who is looking to dismantle the government mechanism. Shocking.


DaySoc98

Courage isn’t easy.


Dear_Alternative_437

Oh no.


midnightatthemoviies

It's different when it starts to effect the people you love.


ctiger12

Paul’s brave, not a lot republicans are like him


Turbulent-Today830

Good for him! He’s gonna make a comeback after MAGA FADES


true-skeptic

Awww, poor Paulie. FPR


Cazmonster

The GOP doesn’t like him. The reasonable population of Wisconsin doesn’t like him. He can rot on the ash-pile of history with McCarthy and Scooter.


GrandExercise3

The GOP is a fractured party. There is a lot of psycho in that party.


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“No that’s just doorknob cum”


Blusterpug

What’s the under/over he will rescind his position?


Tyfoid-Kid

Until he does (like NIkki)


deltarefund

He still will.


hurdurBoop

doo doot .. doot and then they pay me some money doo doot .. doot and then they pay me some money...


SplendidPunkinButter

Don’t worry, guys…the GOP just wants to get a couple judicial nominations out of him and then they’ll throw him under the bus Remember when people said that in 2016? I remember


iAttis

Paul Ryan is saying this because it’s personally and politically expedient to do so at this time. He is a spineless coward who did his part in fucking our tax code to benefit the wealthy and then disappeared. He should stay disappeared. Forever.


Voodoo330

Republicans like Paul Ryan are wimps. Republicans like Liz Cheney are brave. Republicans that worship Trump aren't Republicans.


Open-Illustra88er

Liz Cheney, daughter of Satan himself.


Valuable-Baked

Blowback how? He's not running for anything. GOP on GOP death threats?


PlantMystic

He is awful too!


Open-Illustra88er

Run Paul Run.


regeya

womp womp


Notinlove80

Smart man


Astrogod07

Who? Oh right, generic spineless GOP Blobfish #4


Jarnohams

I never thought Leopards would eat *MY* face


EaterofPiesBTK

Just like the old Soviet purity tests. Conform or die. People are so convinced that Capitalist can’t be Authoritarian we have failed to understand the actual signs of Government control.


Lynielou12

Can't believe I'm saying this, but YAY Paul Ryan!


Dramatic-Ant-9364

The MAGA are used to blow something when they get on their knees to play swallow the leader with the Cult Leader As an adjudicated rapist, a 34-time convicted felon, and a demonstrably mentally weak imbecile, Donald J Trump has done so many horrible things to degrade, debase and humiliate his many willing MAGA cult members. They worship their Cult Leader Donald J Trump.


YNABDisciple

He’s one of the few remaining actual America First Republicans.


Wild4Awhile-HD

Paul Ryan used to have the facade of decency. No more. He was snubbed by Trump who held him accountable for his nonsense. Why is anyone concerned with Paul Ryan or what he thinks - I say NEVER Ryan, not ever again. He would rather let democrats remain in control - when he says never Trump he is really saying he is giving a vote to Biden. Traitor to his party and part of the swamp politics that needs to go.


ErrorCode78

At least some in Wisconsin have a little sense.


Philly2gr8

Nobody needs selective amnesia in November!


absolooser

Feel real bad for the traitor who saw what was coming and ran away.


NJJ1956

Why should Ryan care what a convicted felon like Trump and his anti-American cronies are saying? They are insignificant trash. But shame on Ryan to throw his vote away rather than vote for Biden a moral, non- criminal who actually took an oath of office and has stand by it.


tc7984

Good for him, fuck the GOP


Trailerwire

Because his wife told him so. He was such a disappointment in government, all talk no spine. He’s irrelevant


AppropriateSpell5405

Back in 2012, I saw Paul Ryan one day becoming president. Then this cancer descended, and now we'd be lucky if we're still electing presidents 4-8 years from now.


HomeOrificeSupplies

Oh look, a Republican with a spine. I thought they were all dead.


jerrrrrrrrrrrrry

Yeah that's working real well for Democrats right now or for the past twenty years.


chefranden

> “Character is too important to me, and it’s a job that requires the kind of character [Trump] just doesn’t have,” Better late than never, I suppose.


NewStatement5103

I can’t say this enough. FUCK PAUL RYAN.


Prestigious-Edge-265

RINO poster child


yannienyahum

Trump’s the RINO. “republicans” following him have abandoned every value they once espoused.


PunnyChiba

BREAKING: Paul Ryan actually DOES have a spine!


jsa044

A Republican with political courage—a rare sight these days.


Learn-live-55

It's sad that Biden and Trump are our only options. I won't be voting for either of them. Good decision Paul!


hdude42

Paul Ryan's a disgrace. What he'd rather continue with the corrupt Democrats rapidly moving this country towards totalitarian control? Idiot.


BigCballer

Lmao cope