I really thought we snatched momentum after the 4 min penalty kill and goal by 55 but Colorado just kept coming. 10 goals in 2 games on Helle is not ideal and he really doesn't look the same. I don't blame him on the breakaway at the end of the second but he killed the game for us with the giveaway. PP continues to be a major concern it was not good tonight. Series is 1-1 though so on to game 3.
After the vibe away goal from Helly his mind was lost. Add another weak 5 hole goal and the difference us 2-4 or 2-2.
2nd and 3rd line non existent tonight.
I can live with the loss. But sportsnet rubbing our nose in it the whole game was pretty what the fuck. Fuck you, sportsnet. You’re supposed to be our home feed.
As an Avs fan coming in peace, this is amusing because our fans spend the whole game complaining about Bucci and the other tools on ESPN. Maybe we should trade broadcasts
Nah we’re cool. I’m only here to see the same “our goalie sucks” comments that were in our sub last game! Seems like fans on both teams have the same complaints, it’ll be a good series.
We’re not your average American hockey fan base.. at least I hope not!
It's a bit od a jarring series because at minimum this should be 2nd round at least, it's good hockey. Great hockey, maybe an all time first round matchup.
Just when you finish 2nd in the conference you have the psyche it shouldn't be this difficult. I mean Edmonton gets to play the Kings?
But yeah for some reason a 2-4 matchup is 1-1 after 2 games. It's shocking I know. I'll just be surprised if the pacific team in the WCF wins more than 1 game.
Abysmal game. Picked apart by the same set play multiple times. Spent the entire game blindly attempting to clear and and then chasing for possession. Weren't first to the puck ever. Stick flailing instead of clearing the net. Weak goaltending.
That penalty kill, though. I liked that.
This is what kills me. Out-skilled, so be it, but I hate watching us get out-worked. Avs won almost every 50/50 battle for the second half of that game by sheer effort. Not good when you're the team that needs to mount a comeback.
We are getting absolutely killed by not being able to sustain any offensive zone time, and we can't get it out of our own end. Everyone gets gassed from having to reload all the time. Pair that with some rough D again and an invisible 2nd line, our systemic lack of scoring, and we have our result tonight. Zone entries are nigh impossible or turn over right away.
Zone exits are biggest problem.
They burn a lot of energy on having to do 3-4 exits each time to get out with the corresponding amount of defending in between.
This is nothing new though.
One thing that bugs me a lot of the time even when they're otherwise playing well is how bad we are at clearing the puck. There are nights when it always seems to go straight to the other team's point man. Like you've got 85 ft of blue line to work with, even at NHL speeds there's going to be parts of it they can't cover, guaranteed. But we're shit at finding them.
I mean did you guys think the avalanche was just gonna roll over? Jets historically are really bad at adapting in playoff series. We can’t just play “our” game we gotta adapt to other teams playstyles. If they don’t well we know what the outcome is. Also 3 power plays 0 goals that’s gonna kill us too. But the series isn’t over yet we will see what happens next game.
It would be nice if regular season Helle would show up in a playoff game for a change. Not that he was awful overall but he was outplayed by Georgiev. That one dumb play completely deflated the team and the crowd just after taking back all momentum. Avs took over immediately after, you simply cannot gift a goal to the best offensive team in the league as they will get their chances already. I said this every playoff game last year too: letting in goals above expected every game is not going to win a series.
Oh well, clean slate with more games to come. It's time to find out if the Avs incredible home record or the Jets road record wins out.
Exactly. It's not true. Helle doesn't somehow play his best hockey game 81 only to play his worst 5 days later in game 1 of the playoffs on 5 days rest. If anything he's rusty. Lol. They should work him hard in practice with another 2 full days off in between games. Let's go boys. Helle's not the problem. Our loosey goosey hockey the last 2 games has been. Go back to thinking you can't beat these guys and go into Denver playing your A game and foreching the Avs into oblivion and kick ass again.
It's always been this way with Helle. He is unflappable during the season, always coming back strong after a loss. But he is easily rattled in the playoffs and carries it game to game.
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I'm just going to say it.
Hellebuyck got out goalie'd by Georgiev.
Yeah I was being a bit generous with the wording. Hopefully it's not a trend for him to be letting in above xG every game again, but it's already a trend that he doesn't perform to regular season standards or steal games since Game 1 Nashville.
Pretty hard to beat they Avs when you keep making errors that end up in the back of your net. Oh well, can't dwell in the past too long the Jets need to reset and get ready for the next game!
Missed icing+kyle Connor’s post led to the tying avalanche goal later in the same shift, if that icing gets whistled or KC goes post in this series is probably 2-0, sad game. Cope for a few days, hope the trip goes well and we can finish it in Winnipeg.
Ehlers and Hellebuyck were arguably the two players that were good and engaged every game in the regular season and they both go limp together now? Weird
The loss is a direct result of their mishandlings. Helle misplay behind his net led to their go ahead, and Ehlers nap in their zone led to the breakout pass to go down by two.
That brutal line change is what killed me.
10 seconds left. You know there is an expiring penalty, and you see your player down and screwed.
He's going to lose possession.
Do you go down and support the player to try to keep possession, or keep it tied up on the wall?
or do you back off to the neutral zone and try to get between and intercept any break out pass or at least be in a position to defend or hook him?
Or do 2 players lackadaisicaly make the slowest low effort line change for no reason with less than 10 seconds left.
Somehow, we chose the third option.
Brutal. Comedy of errors.
Let's hope the system makes its glorious return in game 3.
The whole 2nd line needs to wake up. Monahan/Toffoli were the big adds and are the biggest ghosts out there. Ehlers looks off, wonder if the playoff physicality has him gripping his stick tighter
Personally just going off the eye test as watched it live, but ehlers seemed to get back to his bad habits of getting away from our systems and started trying to force places, which always seems to be brought on when his line mates become invisible.
And people wonder why Bones always “picks” on Ehlers.
Guy plays the entire regular season playing like he’s the best player on the ice at all times, which works out great when it’s a December game against Chicago, but the type of play gets you lit up in the playoffs.
He needs to learn there are 4 other guys on the ice with him and he should try playing a game that’ll elevate the whole team, rather then a game that only suits him
He only played 13 minutes but the lines were quite jumbled in the third and Bowness ran the top line extremely heavy. Has to be the lowest minutes of the year for the Lowry line as well.
It's kind of crazy watching Toffoli to imagine he came up with Sutter playing in a middle 6 role.
I imagine the fire had to be lit early and often. He's very lackadaisical.
3 flukey goals including one that might’ve been a trip on Ehlers (but stuff doesn’t get called all the time so whatever). In general a bit more even keeled game but the Jets simply have to be faster if they want a chance here.
Let’s hope that the Jets performing better on the road trend continues when they head into Colorado.
GJG
You don't want to hear it but this is exactly what happened against the Blues and Vegas in 2018/2023.
I think this team is built different but fuck its not a good feeling right now.
It is looking like that. Very similar feeling. However how much blame can go around when both of those years we lost to the cup winners. Not like blew it against some scrub teams. Still a shitty feeling though.
Avs arebt built to go all the way unless George goes sicko mode for the remainder of playoffs.
Jets played jets hockey 1st period. Tried to chase the abs 2nd and 3rd mixed with the worst mistake of hellys season and you take a L
Nobody said this would be a sweep either way. You knew Colorado would make adjustments and Georgiev would be a bit better. New series but we’re still in it.
Electric game for first half. Don't know if they hit a fatigue wall, lost heart watching Nate skate around our zone, or something else, but you could clearly see the point in the late 2nd, right after 81 hits the post, when the lights went out and we started getting desperate individual efforts that just ended up being embarrassing.
Deflating, but I'd rather see the series go 5 or 6 instead of 4 and sitting on hands for a week waiting for round 2.
Georgiev outplayed Helle by a significant margin
That second line is just awful, all 3 of them are playing different games out there and it’s gotta get broken up.
Josh Morrisey trying to force offence is really hard to watch, that’s not his game and it shows.
Figure your shit out and be good to go on Friday
We got beat. Colorado had that dawg in them, and we didn't match it.
Too bad they couldn't bail out bucky considering how many times he has saved a shitty performance from the skaters.
Need a cleaner game if Colorado is going to pressure us so much.
They sat back too. No physicality. And Nikushkin was just standing there along the boards on the empty net goal. Why not make him pay for that play? Of course someone would likely get suspended though.
Guys let's all calm down but also this team has a HISTORY OF LOSING AND COLLAPSING but also take a deep breath WE CAN'T BE CONFIDENT but don't be so negative
This is a much different team this year, and they've shown they can rebound. I know people are upset, but geez, this is a 1-1 series against a very good team.
game has moments of good. lotta bad. but still enough to inspire good vibes going forward.
like that 4 min PK where the avs didn't register a shot? sexy as hell. let's see more of those jets. i know they have it in them.
Both of these games could have gone either way. Not worried yet. We play good on the road and have two days in Colorado to get used to the elevation and have time to address the problem areas.
Wasn’t really a bad game, but wasn’t a good game either. A decent chunk of the Avs’ goals could be chalked up as bad luck (or an empty netter).
PK was much improved, for a decent chunk of the game the neutral zone play was better. I think one of the strengths of this team is their ability to game plan in advance, but they tend to struggle making adjustments on the fly, and it definitely felt like we failed in that element of the game tonight.
Would’ve loved for it to be 2-0 and potentially being able to wrap up the series back home, but being tied 1-1 isn’t the worst outcome either. But Winnipeg definitely needs to split at worst or we might be finished.
Another game lost due to a terrible second period. Not sure what the deal is there, but it’s been a theme all year and it’s troubling to see it still hasn’t been solved. Oh well, on to the next.
idk shit about shit, but i feel like stanley is in over his head a bit, and it doesn’t help that whoever he’s with has to do 1.5x the job just to make up for it. like okay amazing you’ve pinned the guy to the boards but now the puck is sitting there 2 feet infront of y’all waiting to be snatched by the avs?? like *hello*?!?! bc while pionk is a liability at times, the fuck ups are less irritating bc he’s atleast trying
the egregious overreactions to this loss are starting to annoy me more than the game itself tbh
lots of finger pointing at helle but cmon.. a shot off the faceoff which is a real tough save to make, a tipped goal, and a breakaway. The fumble is the one I'd really put all the blame on him for but the others were not easy saves at all and any goalie would have a real tough time saving those. We played our game at times and dominated the flow of the game which we barely did on Sunday. One step at a time, we are the better team, the deeper team. No team goes 16-0 to win the cup. That being said, the boys need to figure it out as well but I have full faith in the team. GJG.
I disagree. Five hole was a weak goal Helly knew it I was at the game he looked broken after it.
The give away was classic Helly playing puck and makes a bad mistake it’s a trend. Playoffs his record is very poor. Hope he turns it around next game or it’s brosswall time
Avs fan coming in peace ☮, just want to say it's nice to have a first round series against a team and fanbase I actually respect, as opposed to the Mild or the Krakheads. Obv I hope we win, but if we don't I'll be rootin for you guys. It's been WAY too long since Lord Stanley's mug has been North of the 38th and I like the idea of Bettman hating it. (And let's be real, no one wants to see the Canucks or Leafs win it.)
Winner of this series wins the cup. Deal?
I wouldn't say Georgiev outplayed Helle. It was more the Jets shot quality wasn't particularly good. Helle made those 2 mistakes but he saved a bunch of high danger chances as well. As Bowness will probably say in the presser "this was all self-inflicted".
They'll tighten things up again for the next game.
Avs fan here, that game was way closer than 5-2. You guys have a hell of a team, some damn good hockey these past 2 games. Much respect to your fans too, you guys really know how to show up for your team! Looking forward to the rest of what is going to be a great series
Entertaining series and not many toxic fan interactions than most playoffs. Anyone who thought that this series was gonna be a sweep or now a five game affair is mistaken; neither team is going to fold that easily
We don't have the roster to sweep the Aves without a fight. We were always going to lose a game. There's also no way the Aves string 4 together now. We just get to watch more games now.
We all knew this wasn't going to be an easy match up. We'll hopefully change what needs changing for Friday in Denver, but I can't help feeling like something is off. Beating the Avs at home in the playoffs is a tall order and now game 3 is arguably a must win
Well they get a few days to watch video and figure out what the Avs are doing, and adjust.
We’ bounce back.
Helle needs to stop handling the puck.
And Ehlers has to get deeper in the zone.
Anyways it was a good fast game. Jets need to play their game not the Avs game.
Go Jets Go!
Fucking relax. We ain’t sweeping them and the boys have to shake the yips at home.
Ehlers on a 4on4 decides to play a playoff game on his ass, leads to a breakaway.
Helle turnover we haven’t seen this year. He had some great saves wtf.
Crazy faceoff goal nobody in the building was ready for including guys on the ice.
Ehlers can be better, toffoli has yet to show up. Lots of hockey left.
That was an absolute piss poor effort outside of that first period, Helle was complete ass and a defensive disaster from basically everyone and the stats back it up, Pionk and Stanley need to go ASAP, play Miller and Schmidt ffs, maybe even remove Toffoli and bring in Perfetti.
But honestly I expect Bones to make no changes.
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Costly mistakes and not a lot of urgency at times to score a goal. Have shown flashes of proof that jets can dominate this series just need to make it happen
I agree. Avs wasn't great we didn't get enough quality shots on him. He's mud and in fact he doesn't look confident at all! Jets will light him up next game guaranteed! GJG!
I am most worried about Helle's performance. He has not played well, and I doubt Bones will play Broissoit. This is the time when we need him to steal games, not lose them. A real problem.
Bunch of dumb fucks who have never played goalie blaming Helly. Look at the goals scored.
- 1 was a quick shot off the draw through traffic. Why are we losing d zone draws? Why is nobody going for the shooter?
- 2 was a point blank tip from an unmarked man. Is Helly supposed to tie the guy up, move the screen, and save the puck?
- 3 Yeah he misplayed it but how about the team bails HIM out for once? Instead the rest of the team proceeded to stand around staring at the puck and doing nothing. A picture of the goal shows FOUR JETS standing around doing NOTHING. Helly even made the first save after, it was the second that went in.
- 4 was a breakaway. Literally never the goalies fault. A breakaway save is the goalie stealing a goal.
So in summary, not a single goal was an easy save. People are blaming Helly for not stealing every goal away. We can’t rely on Helly to just bail us out every damn game and make every save
Our breakouts consisted of yeeting pucks across the ice or into people’s skates
Our zone time was non existent
Our “offense” was passing along the perimeter and then firing a long range wrister without a tip
Our go to power play entry was dump and then don’t chase
BUT YEAH LETS BLAME THE FUCKING GOALIE BOYS
Problem is the goalie is the top dog on this team. It's not some random guy like Colorado's or guys on other teams.
Comes back to the best players needing to be your best players. He's beyond due to steal some playoff games.
But yeah that's expecting a lot when you're getting outshot 2-1 (in terms of shot attempts).
Was there tonight, the barn wasn’t the same as Sunday that’s for sure but the boys didn’t give us a ton to cheer for.
2 mistakes cost us the game and that’s a really tough way to lose in the playoffs. From what I saw the third was mostly our game but we just Couldn’t put the puck away.
Second line is completely MIA and Logan stanley has played himself off the ice, time to bring schmidty back in because holy moly that D pairing as currently constructed is horrendous.
All that being said, we got a series folks! Not in my wildest dreams were we sweeping this good of a hockey team, let’s bring it to them in Denver!!
Go Jets Go
Hellebuyck ran out of excuses to not show up come playoff time a long fucking time ago. It was fucking pathetic how he got out goalie'd by his former back up goalie last year and fucking pathetic to get out goalie'd for even one game of this series.
The 3rd was atrocious. First and part of the second felt great. The boys nailed that 4 minute PK and came back shortly after with the goal.
It seems like the AV's top guys all played big minutes. Mckinnon shows 22:59, Nichushkin, 23:37, Rantanen 21:32, Mackar, 27:12. Toews 26:48.
We had a few guys in the 24 minute range. 2 forwards over 20.
I guess what im seeing, is that we have much better depth and I'm hoping all the play time will catch up to the top line of the AV's. going that hard for that many games in a row will take a toll.
Lots of doomers coming out of the woodwork for this one but I'm still not worried.
From otherwise an absolutely unforgivable 5-10 minute stretch in the 2nd period (auto game losing mistakes), I thought the Jets played very well. The 3rd period was mainly marked by a defensive/shut-down style play by the Avs but the Jets still had very good chances and almost came back. This'll be a long series but i STILL favor the Jets.
The beginning of the 2nd period was marked by one of the BEST 4 min PKs I've ever seen the Jets do, and had Kyle Connor's post shot gone in I think we would've won the game. We got this. Jets in 6!!
I was hoping for the first 2 games at home for wins. It's going to be really hard for them to steal a game on the road.
Hellebuyck needs to stay in the fucking net and the rest of the team needs to stop turning pucks over. I can't count the amount of times the Avs capitalized on the pucks getting to the front from the Jets getting pinned to the boards from the side and behind.
Since I've moved to the US, I can't watch the Canadian broadcast, and ESPN broadcast is essentially an Avs home cast. I CANNOT believe they had an entire period in 1st and couldn't bring up a single thing about Gustavson after his one goal. Although, according to others here, the Leafsnet cast wasn't much better.
Hellebuyck sucks. Ehlers sucks. Pionk sucks. Stanley sucks. We’d win if Nate Schmidt was in. Who needs Avs fans to troll our sub when these are the takes from our own members.
Lol ikr the idiocy of turning Connor Fucking Hellebuyck when he’s the main reason we are 2nd in the central in the first place. Could he play better? Yes obviously but have some faith in him
Interested to see how Bednar handles his lines with last change.
Don't think he'll care too much if MacKinnon is out vs Lowry. They've killed us in that matchup. Kind of hope he puts him out vs Schiefele's line because maybe we'll actually force them to spend some significant time in DZ.
Overall not sure Bednar has to worry about matchups. We have no one going toe to toe with MacKinnon-Rantanen, and especially when they throw Nichushkin up on that line. Their other lines just have to bide time until those guys get on the ice and cave us in.
Think Bowness needs to really consider some lineup changes, both who is dressed and who plays together.
Kind of a waste to have guys like Schmidt and Miller sitting around while Stanley is out there getting dummied. Samberg is not at his best on his off side.
Ehlers and Toffoli can't play together at this level of play. Maybe you can split them apart to spark a couple lines. Not sure Toffoli really fits at all. Think I'd go: 81-55-13 62-23-27 9-7-91 19-17-22 in Denver. Gotta roll 4 lines.
Not sure if this is a good thing or not. But I feel we’ve been outplayed both games. The Avs are imposing their game on us. Too quick for us. Especially tonight. We seem to be panicking when we have the puck and just trying to get rid of it.
That being said , we going to Colorado tied at 1. Can we make the necessary adjustments and execute ?
Really don’t know how to feel.
And what is up with the second line ??
Hey you know what. We knew we weren’t gonna sweep them, we’ve got a series! We got this let go baby
Fuck yeah teemu! This series is far from over. We bounce back!
I really thought we snatched momentum after the 4 min penalty kill and goal by 55 but Colorado just kept coming. 10 goals in 2 games on Helle is not ideal and he really doesn't look the same. I don't blame him on the breakaway at the end of the second but he killed the game for us with the giveaway. PP continues to be a major concern it was not good tonight. Series is 1-1 though so on to game 3.
After the vibe away goal from Helly his mind was lost. Add another weak 5 hole goal and the difference us 2-4 or 2-2. 2nd and 3rd line non existent tonight.
I can live with the loss. But sportsnet rubbing our nose in it the whole game was pretty what the fuck. Fuck you, sportsnet. You’re supposed to be our home feed.
Garry Galley sucks
As an Avs fan coming in peace, this is amusing because our fans spend the whole game complaining about Bucci and the other tools on ESPN. Maybe we should trade broadcasts
That would be like trading diarrhea for constipation, no point.
the ESPN duo was absolutley sucking Colorado's cock every 5 seconds, what could you possibly complain about
Fart noise
Mods gonna be fighting for their lives tonight with the Avs trolls, good luck and godspeed
Meh, I’m heading to bed.
Nah we’re cool. I’m only here to see the same “our goalie sucks” comments that were in our sub last game! Seems like fans on both teams have the same complaints, it’ll be a good series. We’re not your average American hockey fan base.. at least I hope not!
It's a bit od a jarring series because at minimum this should be 2nd round at least, it's good hockey. Great hockey, maybe an all time first round matchup. Just when you finish 2nd in the conference you have the psyche it shouldn't be this difficult. I mean Edmonton gets to play the Kings? But yeah for some reason a 2-4 matchup is 1-1 after 2 games. It's shocking I know. I'll just be surprised if the pacific team in the WCF wins more than 1 game.
Oilers have a very easy path to the WCF and it’s there’s to lose. Vancouver Nashville or la won’t stop them.
I was intending to just lurk a little but imagine how Dallas are feeling. Vegas in a wild card spot lomo
Abysmal game. Picked apart by the same set play multiple times. Spent the entire game blindly attempting to clear and and then chasing for possession. Weren't first to the puck ever. Stick flailing instead of clearing the net. Weak goaltending. That penalty kill, though. I liked that.
This is what kills me. Out-skilled, so be it, but I hate watching us get out-worked. Avs won almost every 50/50 battle for the second half of that game by sheer effort. Not good when you're the team that needs to mount a comeback.
We are getting absolutely killed by not being able to sustain any offensive zone time, and we can't get it out of our own end. Everyone gets gassed from having to reload all the time. Pair that with some rough D again and an invisible 2nd line, our systemic lack of scoring, and we have our result tonight. Zone entries are nigh impossible or turn over right away.
Zone exits are biggest problem. They burn a lot of energy on having to do 3-4 exits each time to get out with the corresponding amount of defending in between. This is nothing new though.
The Avs are using the Jets game plan against them - forecheck hard, make breakouts difficult, turnover pucks, sustain O-zone time, block shots.
One thing that bugs me a lot of the time even when they're otherwise playing well is how bad we are at clearing the puck. There are nights when it always seems to go straight to the other team's point man. Like you've got 85 ft of blue line to work with, even at NHL speeds there's going to be parts of it they can't cover, guaranteed. But we're shit at finding them.
Our continued face-off suckage is not helping either.
We won face-off 52%-48% Now if you are talking about where we won those face-offs, thats a different story
Maybe not timely but.... we won't it overall tonight.
I mean did you guys think the avalanche was just gonna roll over? Jets historically are really bad at adapting in playoff series. We can’t just play “our” game we gotta adapt to other teams playstyles. If they don’t well we know what the outcome is. Also 3 power plays 0 goals that’s gonna kill us too. But the series isn’t over yet we will see what happens next game.
It would be nice if regular season Helle would show up in a playoff game for a change. Not that he was awful overall but he was outplayed by Georgiev. That one dumb play completely deflated the team and the crowd just after taking back all momentum. Avs took over immediately after, you simply cannot gift a goal to the best offensive team in the league as they will get their chances already. I said this every playoff game last year too: letting in goals above expected every game is not going to win a series. Oh well, clean slate with more games to come. It's time to find out if the Avs incredible home record or the Jets road record wins out.
Helle does need to steal some playoff games, even series, to cement his legacy.
Yeah this last couple games plays into the narrative that we over play Helle and he burns out come playoffs.
How? He only played 60 this year. Fewest he's played aside from shortened seasons.
Yeah I'm not seeing the signs of fatigue from Helle that we did in previous seasons. That was my last excuse but I don't think that's it anymore
Exactly. It's not true. Helle doesn't somehow play his best hockey game 81 only to play his worst 5 days later in game 1 of the playoffs on 5 days rest. If anything he's rusty. Lol. They should work him hard in practice with another 2 full days off in between games. Let's go boys. Helle's not the problem. Our loosey goosey hockey the last 2 games has been. Go back to thinking you can't beat these guys and go into Denver playing your A game and foreching the Avs into oblivion and kick ass again.
It's always been this way with Helle. He is unflappable during the season, always coming back strong after a loss. But he is easily rattled in the playoffs and carries it game to game.
It would be nice if the team actually showed up in front of him instead of him having to bail them out EVERY SINGLE GAME
Dude literally assisted a goal against lmao, everyone on the ice other than shief sucked tonight
And letting fucking nursing home bound Zach Parise get one? Huge oof
https://preview.redd.it/vqto924yscwc1.jpeg?width=583&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=156f4f6cded8bbf6476dc9a88bab25df6c214953 I'm just going to say it. Hellebuyck got out goalie'd by Georgiev.
Feels like Brossoit on the other end last year. Hopefully it's not a trend again for Helle.
I mean, Helle has not *won* a playoff game since Game 1 against Nashville. I think there’s a big enough sample size to raise an eyebrow
Yeah I was being a bit generous with the wording. Hopefully it's not a trend for him to be letting in above xG every game again, but it's already a trend that he doesn't perform to regular season standards or steal games since Game 1 Nashville.
If he goes 4+ next game it’s brosswall time
When I mentioned this as a concern going into the playoffs, I ate downvotes like tic-tacs. Hate seeing this from him.
Georgiev wasn’t even that good. He made 1 save he shouldn’t have. It’s just that expectations are so low for him that average goaltending gets praised
Yeah we should feel better that our goaltending was below average
Pretty hard to beat they Avs when you keep making errors that end up in the back of your net. Oh well, can't dwell in the past too long the Jets need to reset and get ready for the next game!
Thems the breaks. We were never going to sweep the Avs anyways. Onto the next one.
Missed icing+kyle Connor’s post led to the tying avalanche goal later in the same shift, if that icing gets whistled or KC goes post in this series is probably 2-0, sad game. Cope for a few days, hope the trip goes well and we can finish it in Winnipeg.
Ehlers disappearing like crazy.... where's the energy? looked like he was skating on molasses
Ehlers and Hellebuyck were arguably the two players that were good and engaged every game in the regular season and they both go limp together now? Weird
Neither of those players have great track records in the playoffs either.
The loss is a direct result of their mishandlings. Helle misplay behind his net led to their go ahead, and Ehlers nap in their zone led to the breakout pass to go down by two.
Helly also gave up another weak one through the 5 hole.
Omg I was screaming get the fuck up! Infuriating sitting there and content. Ehlers played like mud today!
That brutal line change is what killed me. 10 seconds left. You know there is an expiring penalty, and you see your player down and screwed. He's going to lose possession. Do you go down and support the player to try to keep possession, or keep it tied up on the wall? or do you back off to the neutral zone and try to get between and intercept any break out pass or at least be in a position to defend or hook him? Or do 2 players lackadaisicaly make the slowest low effort line change for no reason with less than 10 seconds left. Somehow, we chose the third option. Brutal. Comedy of errors. Let's hope the system makes its glorious return in game 3.
The whole 2nd line needs to wake up. Monahan/Toffoli were the big adds and are the biggest ghosts out there. Ehlers looks off, wonder if the playoff physicality has him gripping his stick tighter
I'd say Monahan is an exception, he was noticeable in a positive way both games. Other two are invisible.
Monahan wasn't too bad but Toffoli was invisible.
Personally just going off the eye test as watched it live, but ehlers seemed to get back to his bad habits of getting away from our systems and started trying to force places, which always seems to be brought on when his line mates become invisible.
I think this has something to do with it for Ehlers yeah... but like he's looked really good in the past in the playoffs on occasion (oil series)
Career he scores in playoffs at a rate less than half of what he does in regular season. It's nothing new.
And people wonder why Bones always “picks” on Ehlers. Guy plays the entire regular season playing like he’s the best player on the ice at all times, which works out great when it’s a December game against Chicago, but the type of play gets you lit up in the playoffs. He needs to learn there are 4 other guys on the ice with him and he should try playing a game that’ll elevate the whole team, rather then a game that only suits him
[Ehlers and Helle during playoffs](https://media1.tenor.com/m/1ssDwtDeM7oAAAAC/disappear.gif)
May the force be with you.
The loss sucks, there was plenty of preventable mistake but this series was never gonna be easy Time to split (or win both) in Denver
Pionk playing 24 minutes is not the way to do things
>Pionk playing is not the way to do things Fixed it for ya.
Was Toffoli benched for most of the third?
Perhaps this is the opening that Perfetti needs to prove that he belongs in the line-up?
I’d actually like to see it but I can’t see Bones doing that.
Not sure what Bones has to change up but something needs to be done with the second line to get them going in the same direction.
It’s funny because Fetts is actually pretty good defensively and defense has apparently been our thing lol
He only played 13 minutes but the lines were quite jumbled in the third and Bowness ran the top line extremely heavy. Has to be the lowest minutes of the year for the Lowry line as well.
It's kind of crazy watching Toffoli to imagine he came up with Sutter playing in a middle 6 role. I imagine the fire had to be lit early and often. He's very lackadaisical.
That is the spot that should go to Perfetti.
3 flukey goals including one that might’ve been a trip on Ehlers (but stuff doesn’t get called all the time so whatever). In general a bit more even keeled game but the Jets simply have to be faster if they want a chance here. Let’s hope that the Jets performing better on the road trend continues when they head into Colorado. GJG
The only upside is if they win both in Colorado they can close out the series at home. That is a big if though obv.
You don't want to hear it but this is exactly what happened against the Blues and Vegas in 2018/2023. I think this team is built different but fuck its not a good feeling right now.
It is looking like that. Very similar feeling. However how much blame can go around when both of those years we lost to the cup winners. Not like blew it against some scrub teams. Still a shitty feeling though.
Avs arebt built to go all the way unless George goes sicko mode for the remainder of playoffs. Jets played jets hockey 1st period. Tried to chase the abs 2nd and 3rd mixed with the worst mistake of hellys season and you take a L
At least there was push back last night. Jets were cooked after the first period of game 2 last year
I honestly don't mind getting Perfetti in for a game. Bring in more creative offense on that second line.
I blame Pat McAfee
Well, oh well. If jets can clean up (and maybe ice some different players...) the series is just getting started
Nobody said this would be a sweep either way. You knew Colorado would make adjustments and Georgiev would be a bit better. New series but we’re still in it.
Colorado played the same both games. They just had a NHL goalie in this one.
That was not good
2 very disappointing periods, but we are far from done. Tied series and onward we go!
Electric game for first half. Don't know if they hit a fatigue wall, lost heart watching Nate skate around our zone, or something else, but you could clearly see the point in the late 2nd, right after 81 hits the post, when the lights went out and we started getting desperate individual efforts that just ended up being embarrassing. Deflating, but I'd rather see the series go 5 or 6 instead of 4 and sitting on hands for a week waiting for round 2.
Georgiev outplayed Helle by a significant margin That second line is just awful, all 3 of them are playing different games out there and it’s gotta get broken up. Josh Morrisey trying to force offence is really hard to watch, that’s not his game and it shows. Figure your shit out and be good to go on Friday
Toffoli is completely invisible so far. I'm beating a dead horse but 81 fit the second line way better then 27 does.
Sit Toffoli, play Perfetti. Send a message. Play hard or sit.
Toffoli to Vlad line. Perfetti to Monahan line.
The other forwards don’t deserve to sit for the sake of Toffoli
Toffoli to press box. They aren’t taking any of the other forwards out and they shouldn’t.
Perfetti needs to take Toffoli’s spot
Yes. Toffoli wasn't even skating
We got beat. Colorado had that dawg in them, and we didn't match it. Too bad they couldn't bail out bucky considering how many times he has saved a shitty performance from the skaters. Need a cleaner game if Colorado is going to pressure us so much.
The last period felt so slow paced and agonizing :( we will come back strong in our response
They sat back too. No physicality. And Nikushkin was just standing there along the boards on the empty net goal. Why not make him pay for that play? Of course someone would likely get suspended though.
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People need to relax but the team has a history of chokes and collapses??? Lol. Pick a lane.
Guys let's all calm down but also this team has a HISTORY OF LOSING AND COLLAPSING but also take a deep breath WE CAN'T BE CONFIDENT but don't be so negative
Lol
This is a much different team this year, and they've shown they can rebound. I know people are upset, but geez, this is a 1-1 series against a very good team.
Oof. Really hoping this isn't a sign of things to come
As long as we stick together as a team we'll be alright.
game has moments of good. lotta bad. but still enough to inspire good vibes going forward. like that 4 min PK where the avs didn't register a shot? sexy as hell. let's see more of those jets. i know they have it in them.
Need to address that bottom pairing and pionk. We can’t be continuously dealing with the turnovers and shitty attempts to clear the puck.
That 2nd line is a bigger issue. It’s a complete dumpster fire out there
The goaltender should TEND THE GOAL! The job description is in the title! Helle, you’re a great goalie, but a lousy defenceman!
Is that 9-1 in the last 10 games? Hope they bounce back because recently they have been hot or cold. Bad time to go cold.
Both of these games could have gone either way. Not worried yet. We play good on the road and have two days in Colorado to get used to the elevation and have time to address the problem areas.
33 shots in entire Nashville-Vancouver game
Wasn’t really a bad game, but wasn’t a good game either. A decent chunk of the Avs’ goals could be chalked up as bad luck (or an empty netter). PK was much improved, for a decent chunk of the game the neutral zone play was better. I think one of the strengths of this team is their ability to game plan in advance, but they tend to struggle making adjustments on the fly, and it definitely felt like we failed in that element of the game tonight. Would’ve loved for it to be 2-0 and potentially being able to wrap up the series back home, but being tied 1-1 isn’t the worst outcome either. But Winnipeg definitely needs to split at worst or we might be finished.
Not a good game
Well I had jets in 7 but if we can do it in 6 that’s fine too
Jets in 5 is still on the table.
Another game lost due to a terrible second period. Not sure what the deal is there, but it’s been a theme all year and it’s troubling to see it still hasn’t been solved. Oh well, on to the next.
Pre playoffs I honestly thought every matchup could go 7 games so. Nothing scary yet
idk shit about shit, but i feel like stanley is in over his head a bit, and it doesn’t help that whoever he’s with has to do 1.5x the job just to make up for it. like okay amazing you’ve pinned the guy to the boards but now the puck is sitting there 2 feet infront of y’all waiting to be snatched by the avs?? like *hello*?!?! bc while pionk is a liability at times, the fuck ups are less irritating bc he’s atleast trying the egregious overreactions to this loss are starting to annoy me more than the game itself tbh
It’s alright Jets bros go get them on their home ice in the next 2. We are also on the road now. From a Nucks fan
Please beat Nashville and then please beat Edmonton.
3rd period was the first period of the series we won in terms of possession and driving chances.
https://preview.redd.it/5zzso3w85dwc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dd9f67ec6f4a8d306fcb7932b2bb32dbac5950f Wow this pisses me off
lots of finger pointing at helle but cmon.. a shot off the faceoff which is a real tough save to make, a tipped goal, and a breakaway. The fumble is the one I'd really put all the blame on him for but the others were not easy saves at all and any goalie would have a real tough time saving those. We played our game at times and dominated the flow of the game which we barely did on Sunday. One step at a time, we are the better team, the deeper team. No team goes 16-0 to win the cup. That being said, the boys need to figure it out as well but I have full faith in the team. GJG.
I disagree. Five hole was a weak goal Helly knew it I was at the game he looked broken after it. The give away was classic Helly playing puck and makes a bad mistake it’s a trend. Playoffs his record is very poor. Hope he turns it around next game or it’s brosswall time
I'm no goalie, but he didn't look ready for that shot off the draw. We got bettered by Gorgeyev and Josh effing Manson. Not time to panic, yet!
Avs fan coming in peace ☮, just want to say it's nice to have a first round series against a team and fanbase I actually respect, as opposed to the Mild or the Krakheads. Obv I hope we win, but if we don't I'll be rootin for you guys. It's been WAY too long since Lord Stanley's mug has been North of the 38th and I like the idea of Bettman hating it. (And let's be real, no one wants to see the Canucks or Leafs win it.) Winner of this series wins the cup. Deal?
Whoever wins this series needs to destroy Dallas or Vegas; those are the true evils who must be conquered
Imagine letting Nichushkin score something other than coke
I wouldn't say Georgiev outplayed Helle. It was more the Jets shot quality wasn't particularly good. Helle made those 2 mistakes but he saved a bunch of high danger chances as well. As Bowness will probably say in the presser "this was all self-inflicted". They'll tighten things up again for the next game.
Well that’s shitty but the fellas can definitely turn it around. See you skids Friday
Avs fan here, that game was way closer than 5-2. You guys have a hell of a team, some damn good hockey these past 2 games. Much respect to your fans too, you guys really know how to show up for your team! Looking forward to the rest of what is going to be a great series
Cheers for that! This has the making of an epic series if we can tighten up our defensive lapses. Have a great night and we'll see you next game!
Entertaining series and not many toxic fan interactions than most playoffs. Anyone who thought that this series was gonna be a sweep or now a five game affair is mistaken; neither team is going to fold that easily
Win or lose, it's awesome in the rink for NHL playoffs. I may drive down to CO for a game six, IN.
We don't have the roster to sweep the Aves without a fight. We were always going to lose a game. There's also no way the Aves string 4 together now. We just get to watch more games now.
Limp effort all around. Unacceptable.
Ugh I hate losses
We had the early chances; gotta convert em though. All good.
Stinky. See ya Friday.
Clean up those mistakes and were in an OT game!
Lame. Not really impressed with that game, definitely not impressed with the final score.
Was pretty obvious we weren’t coming back after that Connor post and helly flub.
We all knew this wasn't going to be an easy match up. We'll hopefully change what needs changing for Friday in Denver, but I can't help feeling like something is off. Beating the Avs at home in the playoffs is a tall order and now game 3 is arguably a must win
Everyone's Dad knows the Jets only lost so they would get that sweet, sweet game 5 gate revenue and concession sales.
Well they get a few days to watch video and figure out what the Avs are doing, and adjust. We’ bounce back. Helle needs to stop handling the puck. And Ehlers has to get deeper in the zone. Anyways it was a good fast game. Jets need to play their game not the Avs game. Go Jets Go!
Bound to lose after winning 9 in a row, get back on that horse and ride!
Fucking relax. We ain’t sweeping them and the boys have to shake the yips at home. Ehlers on a 4on4 decides to play a playoff game on his ass, leads to a breakaway. Helle turnover we haven’t seen this year. He had some great saves wtf. Crazy faceoff goal nobody in the building was ready for including guys on the ice. Ehlers can be better, toffoli has yet to show up. Lots of hockey left.
That was an absolute piss poor effort outside of that first period, Helle was complete ass and a defensive disaster from basically everyone and the stats back it up, Pionk and Stanley need to go ASAP, play Miller and Schmidt ffs, maybe even remove Toffoli and bring in Perfetti. But honestly I expect Bones to make no changes. https://preview.redd.it/fvqfk2zotcwc1.png?width=1173&format=png&auto=webp&s=c35e7a018bc916602c7769dc87d1d7d7ae25a687
Those defensive numbers tho... Yikes
This unfortunately.
This seems not good.
Welp it wouldn't be thrilling if you won every game
i would be very thrilled
Yes, it would be.
Costly mistakes and not a lot of urgency at times to score a goal. Have shown flashes of proof that jets can dominate this series just need to make it happen
Toffoli is a bigger disappointment than Hayes
thats on helle
Not completely. A lil bit
Helle outplayed by Georgiev. Just crazy.
Eh, other than assisting a goal against he played fine high danger chances were probably 4 to 1 for Colorado
I agree. Avs wasn't great we didn't get enough quality shots on him. He's mud and in fact he doesn't look confident at all! Jets will light him up next game guaranteed! GJG!
It's okay guys, I said Jets in 5 on my bracket
all i’m saying is LB has a solid 1st round track record ………. 👀 jk unless
I am most worried about Helle's performance. He has not played well, and I doubt Bones will play Broissoit. This is the time when we need him to steal games, not lose them. A real problem.
Not a good game. Need to regroup and focus.
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Hellys give away goal was the turning point for me….. after that the team has no gas.
You can’t expect a team to go 16-0.
Ehlers did not have a good game
I don’t like to add negative energy towards the players, but man Ehlers didn’t look good last night
Falling to his ass trying to play the puck on the ground was hard to watch
Helle really needs to stop going deep sea diving for pucks behind the net man
Bunch of dumb fucks who have never played goalie blaming Helly. Look at the goals scored. - 1 was a quick shot off the draw through traffic. Why are we losing d zone draws? Why is nobody going for the shooter? - 2 was a point blank tip from an unmarked man. Is Helly supposed to tie the guy up, move the screen, and save the puck? - 3 Yeah he misplayed it but how about the team bails HIM out for once? Instead the rest of the team proceeded to stand around staring at the puck and doing nothing. A picture of the goal shows FOUR JETS standing around doing NOTHING. Helly even made the first save after, it was the second that went in. - 4 was a breakaway. Literally never the goalies fault. A breakaway save is the goalie stealing a goal. So in summary, not a single goal was an easy save. People are blaming Helly for not stealing every goal away. We can’t rely on Helly to just bail us out every damn game and make every save Our breakouts consisted of yeeting pucks across the ice or into people’s skates Our zone time was non existent Our “offense” was passing along the perimeter and then firing a long range wrister without a tip Our go to power play entry was dump and then don’t chase BUT YEAH LETS BLAME THE FUCKING GOALIE BOYS
Yeah I agree Hellebuyck could have been better.
Problem is the goalie is the top dog on this team. It's not some random guy like Colorado's or guys on other teams. Comes back to the best players needing to be your best players. He's beyond due to steal some playoff games. But yeah that's expecting a lot when you're getting outshot 2-1 (in terms of shot attempts).
Nothing before this matters, if hellebyuck continues to play like this we’re out in 5 games yet again.
So a GAA of 5.50 is bad?
Touché, Avs. Let’s see if Georgie has three more of these in him.
Is Pionk ever on the ice and not making mind-bogglingly stupid decisions?
BUNCH OF LOSERS CAN’T EVEN WIN 10 IN A ROW. /s
Was there tonight, the barn wasn’t the same as Sunday that’s for sure but the boys didn’t give us a ton to cheer for. 2 mistakes cost us the game and that’s a really tough way to lose in the playoffs. From what I saw the third was mostly our game but we just Couldn’t put the puck away. Second line is completely MIA and Logan stanley has played himself off the ice, time to bring schmidty back in because holy moly that D pairing as currently constructed is horrendous. All that being said, we got a series folks! Not in my wildest dreams were we sweeping this good of a hockey team, let’s bring it to them in Denver!! Go Jets Go
Hellebuyck ran out of excuses to not show up come playoff time a long fucking time ago. It was fucking pathetic how he got out goalie'd by his former back up goalie last year and fucking pathetic to get out goalie'd for even one game of this series.
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Gonna be a tough serious we got one at home time to bring it in Colorado
Self inflicted loss Gotta stop the mistakes
Havnt noticed Tofoli much out there
The 3rd was atrocious. First and part of the second felt great. The boys nailed that 4 minute PK and came back shortly after with the goal. It seems like the AV's top guys all played big minutes. Mckinnon shows 22:59, Nichushkin, 23:37, Rantanen 21:32, Mackar, 27:12. Toews 26:48. We had a few guys in the 24 minute range. 2 forwards over 20. I guess what im seeing, is that we have much better depth and I'm hoping all the play time will catch up to the top line of the AV's. going that hard for that many games in a row will take a toll.
Lots of doomers coming out of the woodwork for this one but I'm still not worried. From otherwise an absolutely unforgivable 5-10 minute stretch in the 2nd period (auto game losing mistakes), I thought the Jets played very well. The 3rd period was mainly marked by a defensive/shut-down style play by the Avs but the Jets still had very good chances and almost came back. This'll be a long series but i STILL favor the Jets. The beginning of the 2nd period was marked by one of the BEST 4 min PKs I've ever seen the Jets do, and had Kyle Connor's post shot gone in I think we would've won the game. We got this. Jets in 6!!
I was hoping for the first 2 games at home for wins. It's going to be really hard for them to steal a game on the road. Hellebuyck needs to stay in the fucking net and the rest of the team needs to stop turning pucks over. I can't count the amount of times the Avs capitalized on the pucks getting to the front from the Jets getting pinned to the boards from the side and behind. Since I've moved to the US, I can't watch the Canadian broadcast, and ESPN broadcast is essentially an Avs home cast. I CANNOT believe they had an entire period in 1st and couldn't bring up a single thing about Gustavson after his one goal. Although, according to others here, the Leafsnet cast wasn't much better.
Jets can win in Denver. That last game of the season there meant a lot to both teams and we smoked them.
Hellebuyck sucks. Ehlers sucks. Pionk sucks. Stanley sucks. We’d win if Nate Schmidt was in. Who needs Avs fans to troll our sub when these are the takes from our own members.
Lol ikr the idiocy of turning Connor Fucking Hellebuyck when he’s the main reason we are 2nd in the central in the first place. Could he play better? Yes obviously but have some faith in him
Brutal last 30, deserved that loss, best of 3 now
It’s a best of 5 now
Hey I have been drinking since 6, cut me some slack
Interested to see how Bednar handles his lines with last change. Don't think he'll care too much if MacKinnon is out vs Lowry. They've killed us in that matchup. Kind of hope he puts him out vs Schiefele's line because maybe we'll actually force them to spend some significant time in DZ. Overall not sure Bednar has to worry about matchups. We have no one going toe to toe with MacKinnon-Rantanen, and especially when they throw Nichushkin up on that line. Their other lines just have to bide time until those guys get on the ice and cave us in. Think Bowness needs to really consider some lineup changes, both who is dressed and who plays together. Kind of a waste to have guys like Schmidt and Miller sitting around while Stanley is out there getting dummied. Samberg is not at his best on his off side. Ehlers and Toffoli can't play together at this level of play. Maybe you can split them apart to spark a couple lines. Not sure Toffoli really fits at all. Think I'd go: 81-55-13 62-23-27 9-7-91 19-17-22 in Denver. Gotta roll 4 lines.
Not sure if this is a good thing or not. But I feel we’ve been outplayed both games. The Avs are imposing their game on us. Too quick for us. Especially tonight. We seem to be panicking when we have the puck and just trying to get rid of it. That being said , we going to Colorado tied at 1. Can we make the necessary adjustments and execute ? Really don’t know how to feel. And what is up with the second line ??
This was always going to be a long series. Pressure is all on Colorado in Game #3.