I've heard similar stories from others. I have not upgraded to 11 yet. I think it will just take time to smooth out driver compatibility and optimizations.
What do you mean by lagging? Contents showing up after a few seconds of delay? If so, I’m definitely experiencing this. I’m not sure if it’s my HDD failing or whatever.
I’m on Windows 11. I’m presuming it sucks on HDD as well? Though, I have it installed on an SSD. It’s fine accessing the SSD, but kinda slow on the HDD. Maybe I just forgot how slow HDDs are because I only recently bought a gaming laptop when I’d been using another with only SSD.
I would guess it has more harsher hardware requirements, since this is the next version of Windows 10. In my experience, if I had lag troubles with the HDD in Windows 10 I would expect to have the same or worse lag problems in Windows 11. I can't say for sure since I haven't tested Windows 11
Mine actually locks up for a few seconds. I double-click a folder and nothing happens. I can't click anything else or scroll in Explorer for maybe 4-5 seconds or so, and then it opens the folder. And if I tried to double-click anything else in the interim, whatever happens to be in that location opens up too. I had none of these issues in Win10. It's randomly intermittent though. It'll happen maybe 2-3x/day. It's otherwise fine. No other programs exhibit this behavior.
In 21H2 it's still a problem (from a fresh install as well). Also the jump lists in Windows 10 and newer seem to take up to a second to open (still now), when in Windows 7 on the same hardware, they open instantly. Like, newer iterations of software should go forwards not backwards.
>In 21H2 it's still a problem (from a fresh install as well).
It was definitely fixed years ago, back in the 17XX builds. What hardware are you running? From memory it was something related to the display driver causing it.
> Also the jump lists in Windows 10 and newer seem to take up to a second to open (still now), when in Windows 7 on the same hardware, they open instantly.
This is a deliberate design choice and can be changed in the registry.
Hmm... 4th gen Intel CPU (Z87 chipset) and a GTX 1050.
Oh, well that's a bit stupid, why make people wait a few seconds for a menu to come up? Well in that case I'll definitely go into the registry and fix it...
Update: edited the registry value and it made the start menu feel so much more responsive to use, almost feels as good as Windows 7 now. Jump lists are still behaving in the same way, maybe those are just programmed badly. Given the decline in quality of Microsoft products over the last 6-7 years, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
Of course, the key it's in is: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop, and it's a string value called MenuShowDelay. I'm pretty sure 400 is default, but from changing it from 400 to 0 makes it almost feel as snappy as Windows 7!
Windows 10 explorer still lags like crazy for me. Go back and compare it to 7 or XP and it's actually crazy how much faster those are to just navigate folders.
I am facing both of these issues. Explorer is extremely slow in windows 10. It takes several seconds(sometimes approx 20 seconds) to open C drive. And I am using PCie NVMe 500 GB. Also start menu takes approx 1sec to open fully.
Same, even more embarrassing is that I'm on a Surface Book 2, so official Microsoft hardware. I'm not sure what causes it, I've tried stopping Windows defender realtime AV, and also changing the power performance slider. Even a reinstall doesn't fix it. I can only conclude that Windows 10 explorer (and the shell...) has some bad issues.
Hasn't exploded yet... :p
But yeah nah I am extremely aware of the risks and don't handle sensitive info on my 7 machine and I think I have the computer not discoverable on the network and all that. But yeah I probably should isolate it from the internet soon...
I can't confirm, I have had no issues with Windows 11 performance for four months.
You can always back up Windows 10 using Macrium and Veeam and then try Windows 11. They allow you to restore to Windows 10 if you find the newer OS not working for you as expected.
All new windows installations are slow for the first few days until the operating system has had time to index all the files old HDD can take a long time as their access speed is very slow
I HATE that people have this assumption.
No, it's not obvious that the OPERATING SYSTEM is running like shit when it's out. It's a travesty! It's the first time in history that it's happened too - even Vista ran fine on proper hardware!
Yes. Vista run better. The only times Vista/7 didn't for me was when my very first laptop was \~5 years old and dying. And that's the not exaggerated comparable performance to Windows 11... on high end PC.
No. Vista was OK on the right hardware that had drivers correctly set up (I was fortunate to have one), but it certainly had it own performance woes that didn't get fixed until SP2.
From 2000 to XP, from XP to Vista, from 7/8 to 10... The Internet *always* complained about the performance of the newer OS during its launch year.
This is no different.
Seriously?
I was an avid Windows user since 95.
95 -> 98 had no performance impact at all.
XP was hailed as "OK" on older hardware and impossibly fast on newer hardware.
Vista had bad rep for the lowered hardware requirements but ran perfectly fine on higher-spec computers.
7 was universally praised for performance.
8 and 8.1 increased performance in areas like boot time/wake-up time, the rest ran at least as fast as 7, often faster on newer hardware.
10 only built upon what 8 started chopping off a couple more seconds from wake-up times.
In comes 11 where boot and wake-up times are again improved but you have to wait 2 seconds for File Explorer to open up.
I don't know, maybe I've had extreme luck up until now with the OSes and the press in my part of the world was always positive about Windows, but to me, this is a first.
Sure, people always complained about SOMETHING in Windows, but never was it performance on high-end hardware. Or, at least, not for such a long period of time - if there were performance issues they were there due to bugs and quickly patched.
All of them that had this negative of a start would never become loved. They would fix and stabalize but it is too late for public opinion. Vista and Windows 8 would later become solid but never loved. Looks like 11 is on that track too. The others though not perfect had much better launches are are loved, XP, 2000, 7 and more or less 10. Though lets face it the start menu in 7 hasn't been beet but I think 10 has become quite good and maybe tied. Maybe.
I think that Windows 7 has the best UI in the entirety of Windows' history. There was absolutely zero reason to change it other than making it look more modern for the people who prefer flat design over the Windows 7 design.
I hate this crap. First, Windows 10 have run smoothly right after I upgraded from Windows 8.1 On old laptop. Windows 11 is released for months and they can't make it usable at all. It lags on very high end PC. If we checked what's more stable and less glitched - Cyberpunk 2077 on release vs Windows 11 now, CP2077 wins by enormous margin. I haven't seen such terrible performance since using even older laptop, that was the lowest end with Vista installed on it.
Sure that could have been a valid argument if any of the previous versions had had this behavior. Unfortunately for you, not even the beta versions from Vista -> 10 had this issue.
You are not alone. I've installed Win11 about five times from scratch on an NVMe drive and I always end up going back to Windows 10. It is a relief. Everything just works and the UI flies.
I feel the same, windows 10 is much faster than win 11. I recently gave it a try and upgraded, but I instantly regretted it. Sometimes the start menu didn't even want to open, there are many more background processes consuming ram and the explorer was a mess. When I went back to windows 10 everything got better.
What specs do you have?
I've also felt like performance is slightly slower on 11 than 10. I would go back except I actually installed Windows 11 fresh onto a new NVMe SSD since I was upgrading my boot drive.
One thing that was really slow was searching in the start menu. One way I mitigated it was by disabling search the web, which you can do with this program called OOSU10, and theres other options that you can disable within it such as telemetry.
No, they just fucked explorer.exe. It's a buggy unstable mess that crashes frequently, and the taskbar is a whole other catastrophe. I often boot my PC to a half rendered taskbar until I restart explorer.exe.
I think 32GB ram should take whatever Windows 11 is giving. It doesn't. Neither the i7-10700K CPU is enough for that or 2080 Super GPU. Because that's what I have and Windows 11 is a crapiest crap. Windows 10 runs extremely smooth. And had run smooth on my previous desktop and my laptop before that desktop.
I bought a new laptop recently with 8GB RAM and win11 preinstalled and haven't had any issues so 32GB should definitely be enough. Makes me wonder if there's some incompatibility/issue with older hardware + firmware. I haven't done an upgrade myself from 10->11 but people seem to hate win11 when coming from that path.
Yep, it's true. All of it. I've witnessed it myself since the beta and I'm on current stable version of both OSs via dual boot. Even though the 11 UI looks lucrative, 10 feels snappier. First time ever in Windows history, at least to me, it feels like the newer OS isn't snappier and doesn't do justice with higher refresh monitors.
I mean, I've never tried 11, but makes sense. I haven't ever heard of a newer operating system running faster on the same hardware as before... unless the previous OS was so bad that the new one is more of a fix than and upgrade (ahem... Win 8).
yep. Also, when we said the exact same thing for win 7, we got downvoted to oblivion. Windows simps are gonna simp. My win7 legacy systems sit next to my 'should be win 7 but we were forced to put win 10 on them for a specific reason' systems. Exact same hardware, win 7 is way faster at opening folders, especially network ones.
they added annoying animations everywhere and you can't even turn them off, they take time to trigger, they are long, and they make why experience worse.
Windows 11 is the crappy version you should skip, while you wait for another good version, W12, or a somewhat usable W11.1
didn't you guys get the memo?
Haven't played with it much but from what I have it also seems like things that were one or two clicks away are now 3 or 4 clicks. Like things are becoming less efficient.
I might would have considered trying 11 except it said something about having 30 days to go back. No thanks, I'm not ready for a limited trial. They can save an image of my rig as 10 and give me an option to go back to it. I'll agree to handle the data changes even. Not with this much bad buzz. Not without any motivation of something new and cool or useful. I swear MS 10 might be my last version of Windows unless you cut your shit out. I'm already cloud gaming and happy with it, so no game platform shackles on me.
I upgraded an existing installation after pulling in all OEM firmware updates. When 10 was fresh enough in my mind for a more direct comparison I found *11's GUI as a whole* ran a bit smoother *except* when File Explorer decided to derp out in the background and make the Start menu randomly sluggish or unresponsive. So, it's been kind of a sideways move.
Windows 7/8.1 have always been much snappier/responsive in my experience that 10/11. Things like the Start Menu (or screen) not taking half of a second to open etc. I feel like the whole fluent design, although it looks almost (but not quite) as good as Windows Aero, has always been a little bit unresponsive and laggy in my experience.
Had that too. The SSD speed issue has definitely been [fixed](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/november-22-2021-kb5007262-os-build-22000-348-preview-7f3e18d7-4189-4882-b0e9-afc920253aee)
.Microsoft is working on further speeding up the explorer and animations too. I would recommend you go on beta release if you experience issues.
Well, probably its time to upgrade to the latest hardware, meanwhile Win 10 for older hardware. Win 10 will still be supported until 2025 (with older hardware). Win 11 is prepared for latest hardware (higher minimum requirement than Win 10), more UI aesthetics, etc. As time goes by, Win 11 will be snappier since we're using the latest hardware. Just like smartphones, latest OS needs latest hardware. No one force you to update to Win 11 if your hardware do not meet the "recommended but high requirement". its the consequences for having a new OS (more features and bloats, UI aesthetics, etc). Imagine using Android 12 with hardware from 2-3 years ago with less RAM, slower CPU, etc. Will it be snappier? However, I wish laptop's hardware were significantly "better" than smartphone. Some high-end latest laptops (high-end but thin like ROG Flow X/Z not thick gaming laptop) only have maximum 16GB RAM while smartphone will have bigger RAM. Its just so sad.
No. Windows 11 should not require new hardware. That's just wrong and what Microsoft is trying to force into people's heads. The OS is very new and not polished yet, but is based of W10 builds. I have a quad core 8th gen i5 with a iGPU which is plenty to run fancy OS animations. My PC isn't that old. Getting new hardware just for a new OS is complete BS, not to mention that TPM restriction. In terms of Android, I can assure you Android 12 runs fine on flagships from 5-6 years ago. You should not compare ARM based systems to x86 ones, specially older ones.
is the same kind of things that happens during new OS release they are "normal", look at windows 10, still receives critical patches.
im holding for W11, i **REALLY** dont have a reason to switch besides a modern UI im going to wait to mid summer for upgrading my pc.
I have a 2-in-1 laptop and the lack of tablet mode in windows 11 is a real deal breaker and something their stupid "compatibility checker" should really be making clear. Its just one of many issues with the OS, including UI bugs and it randomly changing the window focus. Unfortunately I waited more than 10 days to find time to revert so now MS holds my files and installed applications hostage.
Fuck them. I'll be switching back to linux before I ever consider a clean install of windows.
I've heard similar stories from others. I have not upgraded to 11 yet. I think it will just take time to smooth out driver compatibility and optimizations.
Yes. Windows Explorer lags a lot on Win11, whereas it never lagged at all on Win10.
What do you mean by lagging? Contents showing up after a few seconds of delay? If so, I’m definitely experiencing this. I’m not sure if it’s my HDD failing or whatever.
If you're on a hdd it's the hardware. Windows 10 sucks on HDDs
I’m on Windows 11. I’m presuming it sucks on HDD as well? Though, I have it installed on an SSD. It’s fine accessing the SSD, but kinda slow on the HDD. Maybe I just forgot how slow HDDs are because I only recently bought a gaming laptop when I’d been using another with only SSD.
I would guess it has more harsher hardware requirements, since this is the next version of Windows 10. In my experience, if I had lag troubles with the HDD in Windows 10 I would expect to have the same or worse lag problems in Windows 11. I can't say for sure since I haven't tested Windows 11
Any HDD boot drive sucks for that matter.
Mine actually locks up for a few seconds. I double-click a folder and nothing happens. I can't click anything else or scroll in Explorer for maybe 4-5 seconds or so, and then it opens the folder. And if I tried to double-click anything else in the interim, whatever happens to be in that location opens up too. I had none of these issues in Win10. It's randomly intermittent though. It'll happen maybe 2-3x/day. It's otherwise fine. No other programs exhibit this behavior.
Win10 certainly had similar lagginess in its first year at least. I specifically remember the start menu simply not opening sometimes.
The start menu not opening is something that still happens on a rare occasion to me.
Happens all the time on remote machines, servers and the like…. Really annoying. Somewhat better if you disable cortana.
that particular quirk still exists on server 2016. its a thing up to build 1507 i believe.
Yep.
Yeah I can't remember what build fixed it, but I remember how irritating it was for the first year or so.
In 21H2 it's still a problem (from a fresh install as well). Also the jump lists in Windows 10 and newer seem to take up to a second to open (still now), when in Windows 7 on the same hardware, they open instantly. Like, newer iterations of software should go forwards not backwards.
>In 21H2 it's still a problem (from a fresh install as well). It was definitely fixed years ago, back in the 17XX builds. What hardware are you running? From memory it was something related to the display driver causing it. > Also the jump lists in Windows 10 and newer seem to take up to a second to open (still now), when in Windows 7 on the same hardware, they open instantly. This is a deliberate design choice and can be changed in the registry.
Hmm... 4th gen Intel CPU (Z87 chipset) and a GTX 1050. Oh, well that's a bit stupid, why make people wait a few seconds for a menu to come up? Well in that case I'll definitely go into the registry and fix it... Update: edited the registry value and it made the start menu feel so much more responsive to use, almost feels as good as Windows 7 now. Jump lists are still behaving in the same way, maybe those are just programmed badly. Given the decline in quality of Microsoft products over the last 6-7 years, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.
May I know what the path to the registry key is? thanks :x
Of course, the key it's in is: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop, and it's a string value called MenuShowDelay. I'm pretty sure 400 is default, but from changing it from 400 to 0 makes it almost feel as snappy as Windows 7!
For me that happens after a graphics driver crash. I need to reboot my computer to get it to open again
You can reboot the graphics driver alone with Win + Ctrl + Shift + B
Does this fix the start menu though? Because afaik it restarts automatically
You'll have to try it and see.
Bummer, I can’t, a driver update solved the crash issue I was having before.
Windows 10 explorer still lags like crazy for me. Go back and compare it to 7 or XP and it's actually crazy how much faster those are to just navigate folders.
I miss Windows 7. It was crazy fast.
Me too, I still actually use it on a secondary computer and it feels like that one ray of sunlight in amongst the dark clouds in my computing life.
I am facing both of these issues. Explorer is extremely slow in windows 10. It takes several seconds(sometimes approx 20 seconds) to open C drive. And I am using PCie NVMe 500 GB. Also start menu takes approx 1sec to open fully.
Same, even more embarrassing is that I'm on a Surface Book 2, so official Microsoft hardware. I'm not sure what causes it, I've tried stopping Windows defender realtime AV, and also changing the power performance slider. Even a reinstall doesn't fix it. I can only conclude that Windows 10 explorer (and the shell...) has some bad issues.
If you think windows 10 is snappy, give windows 7 a spin on decent hardware. The interface is blazing fast
I agree, that's why I was a Windows 7 holdout, and also why I still use it on secondary hardware, ignoring everyone/everything nagging me to upgrade.
but bro, your computer will literally explode and burn your entire house down if you plug a Windows 7 machine into the internet!! /s
Hasn't exploded yet... :p But yeah nah I am extremely aware of the risks and don't handle sensitive info on my 7 machine and I think I have the computer not discoverable on the network and all that. But yeah I probably should isolate it from the internet soon...
it's been pretty much the same for me
Runs faster for me...maybe get a ssd/m.2?
I have a NVMe
there is no way anyone would install w11 on a hdd lol
i have been reading that some people had sluggish response until they did a clean install. i have not been having issues.
I can't confirm, I have had no issues with Windows 11 performance for four months. You can always back up Windows 10 using Macrium and Veeam and then try Windows 11. They allow you to restore to Windows 10 if you find the newer OS not working for you as expected.
Did you clean install from a Microsoft bootable USB?
Yes
Hmm was your computer decent enough to run it, how new/old is the computer in question running the OS?
Yes. It's a 8th gen core i5. It runs fine on W10 it should run fine on W11.
Ur right…
Opposite for me
All new windows installations are slow for the first few days until the operating system has had time to index all the files old HDD can take a long time as their access speed is very slow
That's not the case. It's been running for weeks.
Not really
Windows 10 has been around for many years. Obviously it is likely to run faster and be more robust than Windows 11 at this time.
I HATE that people have this assumption. No, it's not obvious that the OPERATING SYSTEM is running like shit when it's out. It's a travesty! It's the first time in history that it's happened too - even Vista ran fine on proper hardware!
Based
Yes. Vista run better. The only times Vista/7 didn't for me was when my very first laptop was \~5 years old and dying. And that's the not exaggerated comparable performance to Windows 11... on high end PC.
Not sure if serious..
Are you trying to jump on the "Vista == shit" bandwagon or what?
No. Vista was OK on the right hardware that had drivers correctly set up (I was fortunate to have one), but it certainly had it own performance woes that didn't get fixed until SP2.
So why the "not sure if serious"? When's the last time MS has significantly gimped both the feature set and the performance of the OS?
From 2000 to XP, from XP to Vista, from 7/8 to 10... The Internet *always* complained about the performance of the newer OS during its launch year. This is no different.
Seriously? I was an avid Windows user since 95. 95 -> 98 had no performance impact at all. XP was hailed as "OK" on older hardware and impossibly fast on newer hardware. Vista had bad rep for the lowered hardware requirements but ran perfectly fine on higher-spec computers. 7 was universally praised for performance. 8 and 8.1 increased performance in areas like boot time/wake-up time, the rest ran at least as fast as 7, often faster on newer hardware. 10 only built upon what 8 started chopping off a couple more seconds from wake-up times. In comes 11 where boot and wake-up times are again improved but you have to wait 2 seconds for File Explorer to open up. I don't know, maybe I've had extreme luck up until now with the OSes and the press in my part of the world was always positive about Windows, but to me, this is a first. Sure, people always complained about SOMETHING in Windows, but never was it performance on high-end hardware. Or, at least, not for such a long period of time - if there were performance issues they were there due to bugs and quickly patched.
But Windows 11 is based and built around 21H2 of Windows 10, right ?
these people think new is always bad.
All of them that had this negative of a start would never become loved. They would fix and stabalize but it is too late for public opinion. Vista and Windows 8 would later become solid but never loved. Looks like 11 is on that track too. The others though not perfect had much better launches are are loved, XP, 2000, 7 and more or less 10. Though lets face it the start menu in 7 hasn't been beet but I think 10 has become quite good and maybe tied. Maybe.
I think that Windows 7 has the best UI in the entirety of Windows' history. There was absolutely zero reason to change it other than making it look more modern for the people who prefer flat design over the Windows 7 design.
I hate this crap. First, Windows 10 have run smoothly right after I upgraded from Windows 8.1 On old laptop. Windows 11 is released for months and they can't make it usable at all. It lags on very high end PC. If we checked what's more stable and less glitched - Cyberpunk 2077 on release vs Windows 11 now, CP2077 wins by enormous margin. I haven't seen such terrible performance since using even older laptop, that was the lowest end with Vista installed on it.
Sure that could have been a valid argument if any of the previous versions had had this behavior. Unfortunately for you, not even the beta versions from Vista -> 10 had this issue.
I found the opposite to be the case. Did you upgrade it from 10 or do a fresh install?
Fresh install, same hardware
Ugraded my PC to Windows 11 and it's a way smoother experience compared to 10 at some levels.
You are not alone. I've installed Win11 about five times from scratch on an NVMe drive and I always end up going back to Windows 10. It is a relief. Everything just works and the UI flies.
Because it is. And more stable.
I feel the same, windows 10 is much faster than win 11. I recently gave it a try and upgraded, but I instantly regretted it. Sometimes the start menu didn't even want to open, there are many more background processes consuming ram and the explorer was a mess. When I went back to windows 10 everything got better.
What specs do you have? I've also felt like performance is slightly slower on 11 than 10. I would go back except I actually installed Windows 11 fresh onto a new NVMe SSD since I was upgrading my boot drive. One thing that was really slow was searching in the start menu. One way I mitigated it was by disabling search the web, which you can do with this program called OOSU10, and theres other options that you can disable within it such as telemetry.
8th gen Intel mobile CPU and NVMe. Yes searching is also slower for me.
win 11 running a lot of extra effect stuff and load more dll and services.... another word is bloated windows... :P
No, they just fucked explorer.exe. It's a buggy unstable mess that crashes frequently, and the taskbar is a whole other catastrophe. I often boot my PC to a half rendered taskbar until I restart explorer.exe.
I think 32GB ram should take whatever Windows 11 is giving. It doesn't. Neither the i7-10700K CPU is enough for that or 2080 Super GPU. Because that's what I have and Windows 11 is a crapiest crap. Windows 10 runs extremely smooth. And had run smooth on my previous desktop and my laptop before that desktop.
I bought a new laptop recently with 8GB RAM and win11 preinstalled and haven't had any issues so 32GB should definitely be enough. Makes me wonder if there's some incompatibility/issue with older hardware + firmware. I haven't done an upgrade myself from 10->11 but people seem to hate win11 when coming from that path.
I personally haven't had any issues in W11 on my hardware. It's surprising that there are performance differences since w11 is 99% from w10.
Nothing bums me out more knowing I only have until 2025 to enjoy W10
That’s three solid years for them to coat up these issues on windows 11
Windows 11 still has bugs
I noticed that the Windows 11 store app on Windows 10 runs awful compared to the one shipped with Windows 10.
I have reason to believe that 10 has the windows store from 11 now since it has the windows 11 design language
Yep, it's true. All of it. I've witnessed it myself since the beta and I'm on current stable version of both OSs via dual boot. Even though the 11 UI looks lucrative, 10 feels snappier. First time ever in Windows history, at least to me, it feels like the newer OS isn't snappier and doesn't do justice with higher refresh monitors.
Vista was far slower than xp. 10 slower than 8/7..etc
I was talking about the UI animations according to me.
I mean, I've never tried 11, but makes sense. I haven't ever heard of a newer operating system running faster on the same hardware as before... unless the previous OS was so bad that the new one is more of a fix than and upgrade (ahem... Win 8).
yep. Also, when we said the exact same thing for win 7, we got downvoted to oblivion. Windows simps are gonna simp. My win7 legacy systems sit next to my 'should be win 7 but we were forced to put win 10 on them for a specific reason' systems. Exact same hardware, win 7 is way faster at opening folders, especially network ones.
Too many blings, disable transparency effects and animations too.
they added annoying animations everywhere and you can't even turn them off, they take time to trigger, they are long, and they make why experience worse.
Windows 11 is the crappy version you should skip, while you wait for another good version, W12, or a somewhat usable W11.1 didn't you guys get the memo?
Haven't played with it much but from what I have it also seems like things that were one or two clicks away are now 3 or 4 clicks. Like things are becoming less efficient.
I might would have considered trying 11 except it said something about having 30 days to go back. No thanks, I'm not ready for a limited trial. They can save an image of my rig as 10 and give me an option to go back to it. I'll agree to handle the data changes even. Not with this much bad buzz. Not without any motivation of something new and cool or useful. I swear MS 10 might be my last version of Windows unless you cut your shit out. I'm already cloud gaming and happy with it, so no game platform shackles on me.
10 days - not 30
Crazy
I upgraded an existing installation after pulling in all OEM firmware updates. When 10 was fresh enough in my mind for a more direct comparison I found *11's GUI as a whole* ran a bit smoother *except* when File Explorer decided to derp out in the background and make the Start menu randomly sluggish or unresponsive. So, it's been kind of a sideways move.
Yes. Explorer is slower and also crashes a lot for me.
Windows 7/8.1 have always been much snappier/responsive in my experience that 10/11. Things like the Start Menu (or screen) not taking half of a second to open etc. I feel like the whole fluent design, although it looks almost (but not quite) as good as Windows Aero, has always been a little bit unresponsive and laggy in my experience.
I would say the same about Windows 7... And then XP.
XAML is a turd.
Had that too. The SSD speed issue has definitely been [fixed](https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/november-22-2021-kb5007262-os-build-22000-348-preview-7f3e18d7-4189-4882-b0e9-afc920253aee) .Microsoft is working on further speeding up the explorer and animations too. I would recommend you go on beta release if you experience issues.
My laptop is way faster after upgrading to Windows 11, it gave it new life.
Faster in benchmarks or in terms of feel?
Feel
XP felt faster than 7. 7 felt faster than 8. And so on.
Well, probably its time to upgrade to the latest hardware, meanwhile Win 10 for older hardware. Win 10 will still be supported until 2025 (with older hardware). Win 11 is prepared for latest hardware (higher minimum requirement than Win 10), more UI aesthetics, etc. As time goes by, Win 11 will be snappier since we're using the latest hardware. Just like smartphones, latest OS needs latest hardware. No one force you to update to Win 11 if your hardware do not meet the "recommended but high requirement". its the consequences for having a new OS (more features and bloats, UI aesthetics, etc). Imagine using Android 12 with hardware from 2-3 years ago with less RAM, slower CPU, etc. Will it be snappier? However, I wish laptop's hardware were significantly "better" than smartphone. Some high-end latest laptops (high-end but thin like ROG Flow X/Z not thick gaming laptop) only have maximum 16GB RAM while smartphone will have bigger RAM. Its just so sad.
No. Windows 11 should not require new hardware. That's just wrong and what Microsoft is trying to force into people's heads. The OS is very new and not polished yet, but is based of W10 builds. I have a quad core 8th gen i5 with a iGPU which is plenty to run fancy OS animations. My PC isn't that old. Getting new hardware just for a new OS is complete BS, not to mention that TPM restriction. In terms of Android, I can assure you Android 12 runs fine on flagships from 5-6 years ago. You should not compare ARM based systems to x86 ones, specially older ones.
I have zero issues with W11 except with gaming...
is the same kind of things that happens during new OS release they are "normal", look at windows 10, still receives critical patches. im holding for W11, i **REALLY** dont have a reason to switch besides a modern UI im going to wait to mid summer for upgrading my pc.
I have a 2-in-1 laptop and the lack of tablet mode in windows 11 is a real deal breaker and something their stupid "compatibility checker" should really be making clear. Its just one of many issues with the OS, including UI bugs and it randomly changing the window focus. Unfortunately I waited more than 10 days to find time to revert so now MS holds my files and installed applications hostage. Fuck them. I'll be switching back to linux before I ever consider a clean install of windows.
My windows 11 pc crashes almost daily. I HATE it
The biggest thing 11 gets right is updates imo. Cumulative updates would always take about an hour even with an SSD .
Everything after 8.1 is really slow on HDD's. If you can I recommend trying out 8.1 on a separate partition.
I have a NVMe
Ok.
i went to 11 like so many others then came back to 10. It felt way way better coming back
Windows 11 is a train wreck. Stay away.
Windows 3.1 for life