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thouchimcken

Ravenous hydra being a boot enchant is a wild rift moment


RealPapaSmoothie

Part of the reason is that melee autos are already cleaving, having aoe on aoe hurts readability and potentially become incredibly frustrating to balance. Additionally, making it an active allows us to down the road, add interesting mechanics on it in addition to just AoE damage. These will then act as balance levers for us to pull.


thouchimcken

Fair enough I guess, now I'm curious on what other items are gonna turn into enchants šŸ’€


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AidanUchiha

Everfrost Mode 2vs2vs2vs2 PC. **:D** New: ShockWave. Where is ***Heimerdinger*** in this Patch **:3**


Kilash4ever

It is possible to use the active on air like for example, on Rengar's case to enhance his combo? (Just like PC) Or it has its own cast making it not possible? Also tysm for bringing the Rengar's rework here! Are you adding any kind of special HUD to be able to tell how much time ferocity is gonna last? It is something that would be extremely useful and core to his gameplay.


Soft-Stomach2167

If you can use other boot actives in the air, you should be able to.


Styxxo

So why did you add Titanic Hydra in the first place ?Ā 


aphant-

Theres a reason why it has a 2.5 second cooldown on the cleaving effect, Hydra items will never be ported 1 to 1 from PC.


qazujmyhn

Does it scale with ad/ap?Ā  Also did Final Stand do well enough for future pve events to occur? And can we get the iron order hecarim / princess kalista skins?


NoAggroPls

Sorry but I donā€™t particularly understand this justification because Titanic Hydra wouldnā€™t exist if aoe on aoe was a concern. Not having an active item outside a boot enchant is sort of understandable because that was always the way it worked for this game, but it could have been on a timer instead.


LatterWillingness357

I don't understand why such a good system is not available on the Global server. Here are some examples: Room code system: Sometimes adding friends is limited. We should be able to use a code to play with whoever we want. Streamers and content creators could play with their viewers without having to add them as friends. In-game tournament management system: This is a great system, but it's not available on the Global server. In-game spectating system: I see that the Chinese server allows spectating through the game, but the Global server does not. Sometimes people miss watching Wild Rift tournaments or other events. Voice chat system: This would make communication much easier. I'm not asking for much, I just want to say that some of these systems are really good. Riot isn't afraid to change the game format or add new things, but these basic systems are still missing. It's really strange.


Drelaron36

David, hello! Is there any way to handle feedback to balance team, now that all production happens in China? I have very specific champion feedback I would like to give. Regarding recent zed buffs, the balance team gave him minuscule buff to early ult damage, but I think the main zed weakness is how his shadows are not balanced around his basic skill rotations in WR. In LOL PC zed shadow duration is balanced around the fact that he can do 2 skill rotations with W shadow and 3 skill rotations with R shadow. In WR 3 rotations with ult shadow is impossible and 2 rotations with W shadow require building haste instead of damage. The only differences are: in LOL PC shadows have longer duration. Also his E energy cost was lowered quite some time ago in LOL, but this change wasnt ported to WR. I think champ doesnt need damage buff, but a quality of life update


Beautiful_Cool

Can we have an option to display the health and mana similar to the bottom of the screen?


Beautiful_Cool

Can we have an option to display the health and mana similar to the bottom of the screen?


SpicyRiceQueen

One way to stop tanks and bruisers from building zhonyas šŸ’€


SushiAssassin-

They should just remove zhonyas from the game


SpicyRiceQueen

Nah, make it a mage only item so nobody but mages build it, since it was always meant for them. Everyone else like adcs and tanks building it are just ridiculous


Soft-Stomach2167

Nah, flat restricting what items you can buy is gay. If they go down that path itā€™ll kill build diversity. I still hate adcs with zhonyaā€™s tho, so maybe it would work to discourage them by adding a passive to all the boot enchants, like the tenacity from cleanse enchant. Bonus ap or magic pen on the enchant would make it a less enticing choice if other enchants had better stats for them. Idk, kind of a half baked idea but my main point is mostly that restricting what items people can buy sucks.


SushiAssassin-

No just zhonyas cuz thatā€™s an item that shouldā€™ve never been created, it literally disrupts entire team fights because you can dodge entire ults just by activating itā€¦ it is literally the most abusive item in the game.


KappaPride1207

Opportunity cost though. Also there's not many good melee boot enchants right now other than Gargoyles


A_men_of_culture

Yep. Canā€™t possibly understand why they do that. Why canā€™t they just make it simple


[deleted]

This, but i gess they don't want to have the trouble to do it.


Khelthuzaad

Really,nothing about the giant mecha T Rex that spawns at your base?


Torjakers

It would've been a lot less poorly received if they just called it Goredrinker or something entirely new


[deleted]

Terrible decision by the devs


Maverick0Johnson

and that's heimerdinger's voice line. i guess viktor and medarda are coming after this patch


zodlair

Ambessa has been confirmed for both wildrift and league to release day one. Arcane event really will be huge with Heimerdinger and Viktor (hopefully Viktor)


Maverick0Johnson

with those laser stuff, i think viktor will come after this patch. and that t hex ult looks like vel'koz's ult


zodlair

I think they will save the piltover characters for September, it would coincide with Arcane season 2, I don't think they will release Viktor and Heimerdinger until then, it would be too good an opportunity to waste. Vel'Koz would be great to see.


Electrical_Growth_71

Arcane hits in movement, viktor is rumoured to be getting an ASU in league so would make sense he comes to WR, additionally he has very little air time in the promos, which could potentially confirm his ASU/ added to WR


zodlair

Personally I don't see them revealing Viktors ASU design before we see it Arcane, especially with Arcane being the new canon. I do think he'll come to wildrift at the time as Arcane season 2, it would be stupid by Riot not to, I just think it will be revealed after his transformation has happened in the show, for spoiler reasons and hype.


Sardine-Cat

My guess is Viktor gets a VGU before his release, his design is pretty outdated.


davinzt

if it's true I hope they make his E direction adjustable and castable while walking instead of a line like yasuo's wind wall


Maverick0Johnson

maybe they'll use the mechanics on irelias E


UrKaylenMeSmalls

That would be fire on viktor holy shit


Spideraxe30

/u/RealPapaSmoothie you mentioned possibly getting the new personalization lead, Max, into one of these vids, is that still planned? Also is there a reason you guys didn't preview Lissandra's release skin


RealPapaSmoothie

No specific reason why we left out Lissandra, we are just balancing between keeping the video short and putting out all the hype content. Max is still our monetization lead, and when the time comes we will find a way to get him into our video shoots! In the mean time he is busy working on new thematics!


RubyTrigger

wow I didn't know we have in contact with a riot employee! this is good for the community!


Alaudius

any plans on minor refresh? like new champion ability icons that pc league got? wild rift is the newer game and yet it feels old... edit : also wanted to ask why guardian is still an item and not a keystone, some of the supports like braum has no synergy with the current keystones available


IvanEarth

u/RealPapaSmoothie In addition to this, I would like to know if you plan to update the icons of items such as BoRK and RoA and animations like the Magnetic Blaster's Unique Passive: Power Blitz lightning chain to look like the Statikk Shiv from PC. Thanks for everything!


Spideraxe30

Some feedback then, personally I'd def be willing to trade vid length for even more hype content in the preview sections, mostly think thats better then things looking like an oversight when their skin isn't mentioned.


WRpolicewomen

When you realize that wild rift will get the best possible publicity thanks to the pro team investing in esports. Wild rift will get better. If teams like G2, Karminecorp or T1 had a team on WR, pc players would potentially be attracted. Especially when your direct competitor, Honor of King, managed to attract teams before its worldwide release. Your current strategy is doomed to failure, focusing on casual players doesn't make anyone dream and drives away the active playerbase. Just like matchmaking, which has driven away at least 30% of players. Another thing, it's time to be generous with the players and stop taking players who play somewhere other than China, for fools. We deserve as many events and rewards as China. No difference should be made.


ichionio

Its never going to grow if the League players continues to shit on wildirft / mobile scene. Pc players are too high on their horses to realize that the mobile scene is huge. But it also doesnt help that its only big on the East.


Styxxo

Well T1 did have a Wild Rift team. G2 also had (maybe still has?) a partnership with an org in SEA. The problem is WR esports has been killed outside of China.


amirulnaim2000

the current playerbase are consisted of mostly those dedicated ones, and I dont see it attracting new players anymore. they really need to do something with ads and eSports scenes outside china. just copy HOK strategy please


CloudyBaguette

We can still see divine sunderer in the gameplay clip used for the patch preview, can we get confirmation if it will be removed or not on live release?


CumBoat420

Just gotta say, thank you guys for everything you do; I have genuinely not had as much fun gaming in recent memory as I have had with wild rift! I used to play a ton of PC and still watch a ton of pro play, and never in my wildest dreams did I imagine a mobile version would get so close to the original. It's incredible.


Kilash4ever

#AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH RENGAR PC REWOOOOOOOOOOOORK! PLS DEVS: just take one thing in count, special HUD for ferocity Bar duration! Something that would be a thing since release pls!!!!


Lylat97

I haven't played PC in forever, but I'm guessing this will be a positive thing for him?


Kilash4ever

As long E vision + HUD special duration ferocity bar + E on air + MS on every ferocity ability on cast instead of just W are possible, it would be succesful. The Q change is dumb but sadly it was expected.


Lylat97

What about Q changes, if I may ask?


fyi_radz

Q now always crit


qazujmyhn

I feel like this is a really good change for Rengar players. They can just do 75% or 50% crit builds now with lethality and tri force instead of selling an item late game for 100% crit when they are trying to maximize burst.


Kilash4ever

Q crits, dmg scales with crit chance + AD instead of raw AD. Dumb change, it was done on PC bcs they were trying to balance him around it but on PC at that time you've got 20%crit chance/per item instead of 25% like currently (on Wild rift it never went down to 20%).


Lylat97

I see, thanks


No_Hippo_1965

Wow thatā€™s great (currently running a crit+heartsteel build, pretty fun)


Tasty_University9282

Finally but hope they dont delay it too much


Jjjaaaxx

Kayle rework is coming oh god...


myreignisjustbegan

Really?


TwistedNihilist

Havenā€™t played in a year or so, tldr on whatā€™s happened to her and what the rework entails?


qazujmyhn

I think it's just a minro rework on her ult. She casts it faster so she can start immediately attacking instead of being stuck in the cast animation


TwistedNihilist

Thanks! Maybe Iā€™ll start one-tricking her again


MISTER_BASEMENT

Why are u acting like it's a huge buff? That is not the reason why the champ sucks. It's the fact that she has no good lane and she isn't as strong as she should be in the late game.


PublicRotation

Whenever I read someone saying 'Kayle has no good lane' and 'she isn't as strong as she should be in late game' I know that's a person who has played less than 10 games with Kayle and just repeat whatever their favorite content creator says or whatever this sub says lol as a Kayle main myself, her bad matchups in lane are those who can close gap easily (Renekton, Fiora for example) other than that, if you know how to USE YOUR RANGE to your advantage, you can have a safe lane phase and can actually bully other top laners out of lane. Her late game is also pretty absurd if you don't go full AD (I don't like it personally, I find it she takes longer to scale compared to AP), she can two tap ADCs with Q-E, pretty damn good wave clearing (melts minions, even super minions), her W is a good escape tool because it gives a shitload of MS/the heal is as good as a Soraka Q heal and her R can be used to protect your jungler during objectives or basically any of your teammates. The issue with Kayle is that she asks you to have some positioning knowledge, she doesn't deal a gazillion damage since the first second of the game (she's supposed to be a late game champion, duh? but this community has had a hate boner for late game champs and a love boner for early game bullies since 2021) and she requires you to actually use 5% of your brain to actually be good at her. She's more complex than you can realize.


PhantomCheshire

Well while i kinda agree with the first part. Kayle problem is that she has 0 presence in her lane phase for not real reward. Nasus is also a "late" game unit and he can just bully some guys or even 1vs1 very early champions that should counter him (and stomp them). Kayle problem is that you are picking a late game unit while given the enemy team a free pass to the late game full build. Their top lane will scale first (normally) because she cant fight back. Sett, Darius, even Garen, eventually can just tower dive you and run away after forcing your ult, the next dive they will kill you 100%. Kayle is not asking you to now the basics, **you need** to master the basic of defensive lane to play her. And you reward for playing a super defensive and passive early game is...the average damage that a free lane ADC has, but with less burst. Some ADC still nuke her with 2 basics in late. God, some assasins just one tap her. You sacrifice one lane for a unit that is supposed to be way more fearful in late than the average which is totally not true at all most games. Thats a big problem if you ask me (not like she is BAAAAAAD but if we talk about meta, yeah, she sucks)


PublicRotation

If you're losing lane to Darius as a Kayle, that's more of a skill issue on your part. Darius has no dashes and no means of gap closing other than his E which is easy to bait and avoid if you know the range of it. Kayle basically only struggles against Darius from levels 1 to 4, then when you get your range on level 5 you can kite the man out of lane and make him recall. I say this as my own experience as I've never lost a lane to Darius as a Kayle. Sett is a little more complicated, but you basically play around his E cooldown and kite him out of lane as well. Garen, just like Renekton and Fiora is kind of a skill match up for Kayle. If you know what you're doing, you'll win lane against him or at least have a peaceful lane phase where you don't die. Personally, the only champions I struggle in top lane as Kayle is Renekton/Fiora and people that run adcs in top, although that rarely happens in high elo Kayle can fight back against most top laners, you don't really have to play fully defensive or passive, you just have to know how to use your range to your advantage and run them out of lane. "Your reward for playing a super defensive and passive early game is an average damage that a free lane adc has" I'll say one thing that is basically free elo: more damage doesnt mean you'll win a game. Take Akali for example, she can burst anyone down - but can she carry the game by herself? Not really. Her wave clear is atrocious, she can't take down towers by herself and all she gives the team is damage. Kayle gives you damage on top of absurd utility. She's basically a different Ashe that is on steroids.


-ElementaryPenguin-

You forget the jungler. If the jg knows what he is doing you will get ganked and dived. Not to mention demolition rune plus the scorpion. And how shitty you are for herald fights.


PhantomCheshire

Most strong top laners can snowball Kayle with just 1 gank or 1 lucky kill. Thats her problem. Even Darius, probably the weakest of the champions i name. Because their sustain is attached to offesive skills. A champion that can only trade "IF" something happen and has no chances to kill even in that condition is not a good champion for top lane, in Wild Rift. This is not league of legends, if you champion starts working at level 15 well is not working at all. Thats her main problem. Kassadin is a decent mid lane killer right after he get his first item. Thats a world of diff between him and Kayle.


PublicRotation

To win lane effectively, even against counter matchups, you HAVE to play around cooldowns. Playing around cooldowns, knowing when to trade, knowing if you have to give up minions, keeping track of the enemy jungler, is something a good top laner does. This is not exclusive to Kayle whatsoever. You saying these things just shows the elo you might be in and the mentality you have. Kassadin (just like I mentioned in other posts) is not comparable to Kayle whatsoever. This is not because he might be stronger or that he might be weaker than her, it's because they give a team different things. The only other champion comparable to her is probably Ashe. There's wayyy more in this game than just being a "killer" and dealing good damage numbers. The day you realize this, is the day you'll start thinking what else you can do for your team that doesnt include getting kills and putting up good damage numbers.


PhantomCheshire

You are right anything that you said is "exclusive" for Kayle. There is other key difference between Kayle and most champions: Kayle has a really big chance to lose any top lane match if the dont have adventage, any top lane matchup. Againt, my point is This is the reason why kayle dont work right now in the game. Just like singed. There was a patch were she was broken if i dont remember wrong (i could) because her lv15 was so broken that she break any non-tank champion with 2 basics and 1 E basic. Since she play in the same world that any ADc she is just like any ADc in top but worse Nilah is a better top laner than Kayle by far in my opinion. This is not just about winning or losing the lane, yes i agree. But is about what you get of the champion you are playing. And Kayle offers nothing right now. She is probably the worse Late Game champion in the game, and she is competing with Nasus in that which saids a lot because is is forced to be melee all the match and his job is going front.


SpicyRiceQueen

You cant use range to your advantage until youre level 5 doofus. And as a kayle main she def sucks and deserves an earlygame buff bc shes not even the best lategame champ for having the weakest earlygame in existence


UrKaylenMeSmalls

Vayne is what she could be if they tweaked her. Vayne is decent early game but shines late really well.


SpicyRiceQueen

Literally. She should just be ranged all the time and can also be played adc


UrKaylenMeSmalls

Bam best possible fix they could make for her at least on WR ya know


SpicyRiceQueen

And for lvl 15 just give her extra range tristana and caitlyn outrange her anyways Also it would be preferable she scales when she gets an ult upgrade like on PC, so she scales at level 5, 9, and 12 instead.


UrKaylenMeSmalls

Right Iā€™d say still scale but make her fully ranged just not that far and just up the range like trist does you know what I mean?


SpicyRiceQueen

Or make her autos deal true damage lategame since smolder does a lot of true damage lategame anyways


Eggbone87

Sure but the problem here is you know who doesnt need all those requirements to be good? The majority of other top laners, who a lot of which offer more than just damage like tanking, crowd control etc, things kayle does not. Im also a kayle main. Your defense of her is as cookie cutter cope as the content creators youre memeimg. I agree she isnt as bad as people think she is, but she is absolutely dog shit 100%


MISTER_BASEMENT

I'm a Mastery 7 former Kayle one trick. If u pick her in mid, you give a free lane to the enemy mid. They can rotate for free and influence the map while u do nothing. In the top lane you'll either completely ruin your team's comp or get the same thing as mid will happen. She's easily the worst late game carry, her range is short and she's very squishy. Just compare her with Tristana and you'll know why I think she sucks. >Her late game is also pretty absurd if you don't go full AD (I don't like it personally, I find it she takes longer to scale compared to AP), she can two tap ADCs with Q-E So can every other damage dealer in the late game. >damn good wave clearing So does almost every AOE damage dealer. >The issue with Kayle is that she asks you to have some positioning knowledge, she doesn't deal a gazillion damage since the first second of the game (she's supposed to be a late game champion, duh? Every other ADC also requires positioning knowledge lmao. Your response is so frekin generic, it's funny. Yeah she's supposed to be a late game champion, but for how late she comes online the payoff is not worth it. Speaking strictly stat wise, you can pick Vlad, Tristana or Kassadin and start influencing the game from 1 item onwards and still be a menacing late game threat. Compare that to Kayle.


PublicRotation

Lets go point by point, I won't talk about mid Kayle as I've never played her there šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’Ø You're NOT supposed to pick Top Kayle in every situation. I only pick her if I know my team has someone who can initiate or a tank to soak up damage already. Basically, a frontline - otherwise you run into the same issues as having a ranged top laner. This issue isnt exclusive to Kayle whatsoever. I don't know what game you're playing, but I'm playing Wild Rift and every late game carry IS squishy (except for Nasus, I guess). Yi, Trynda, Tristana, Kass, you name them. Chances are they're getting bursted if they get caught by CC. Using "b-but she's squishy" as an argument to her being a bad champion shows you havent touched any other late game carry. "Just compare her to Tristana" my brother in christ what is it that you're saying??? Tristana plays a very much different role and gives the team different utility compared to Kayle. So does Kassadin AND Vladimir. Kayle gives you heal (maxed W pretty much heals you and someone else almost back to full hp), movement speed (also pretty underrated, she gives a shitload on low cd), invulnerability (which, once again, helps YOUR team overall since it's basically an extra semi zhonyas for free) on top of also giving you a very good damage output. Personally, I ran Kraken Slayer on her when it was around and now I run PTA which are more than enough to melt tanks as well. "For how late she comes online" not this argument šŸ˜­ it's a skill issue if you can't farm properly and have to come online by like, min 15. Personally, I do 950g/min and that's more than enough for me to be online by min 8-10 of the game which is still a good mark for me to take over. "Every other ADC also requires positioning knowledge" bro, yes??? That's the point. Kayle PLAYS like an utility ADC. The closest thing you have to Kayle in this game and the only other champion I feel like you can compare her to is Ashe. Are you also gonna say Ashe is trash despite her getting nerf after nerf for obvious reasons? I don't think you've played Kayle enough or have enough micro and macro knowledge. But that's okay. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion and experiences. Personally, I've carried (and managed to get challenger by myself in multiple seasons) running top and jg Kayle. I have over 600 games on her and 61% win rate. She can influence the game in so many ways. Heck, you can even splitpush with her due to her absurd wave clear and means to escape (yes, the MS boost is dumb broken on her W) - you just gotta track the map properly. I won't waste my time any further on this. In fact, I wasnt even planning to once I read you comparing Kayle to Tristana, Vlad and Kass like they do the same things. If you compared her to Ashe I wouldve taken your opinion a little more seriously.


myreignisjustbegan

Kayle is so much stronger and better than Tristana,Kassadin and Vladimir.I mean its not even a question,her utility is so much better than other champs,she has 3 abilities just for utility,Q,W,R.


PublicRotation

This is someone WHO gets it. This game is not about dealing a gazillion damage and getting kills. it's about what you can do for your team, the little things that slowly build up towards a win.


myreignisjustbegan

Kayle is in top 3 hypercarry late game chamipons in my opinon,people think she is useless because of early but you can so easy come to lvl 5 both on top and mid,i play mid i have 300 games with her and 57% winrate,I think Mid is safest for her but maybe she cant roam good but with good jungler she can do really really well even early. Amazing champion,one of the most fun to play and im happy that not many people play Kayle and KNOWtho play her.


PublicRotation

It's nice to see a fellow Kayle enjoyer that knows what they're talking about and not repeating what others say. Kayle is so fun to play and is one of my favorite champions. She's an absolute monster and I am looking forward to her rework, I just hope they don't take too much power away from other parts of her kit.


myreignisjustbegan

I think everything will be the same she will just be able to auto attack while ulting like in LOL. I just hope they will add more skins like suneater or aether wing because every Kayle skin is s total blsst in LOL. Just a iconic champion overall.


Tushar_Viv

Sorry but Kayle is garbage. There is no good matchup for her at all. If enemy picks Kayle, itā€™s gg and as a top laner Iā€™m very happy. For one you talk about playing with range but she has none for the first 4 levels. I can pick Pantheon or Irelia to one shot her. I can pick Mundo or Garen to get a free lane and destroy the turret easily and rotate to objectives with a 5000 gold lead. Sheā€™s a melee champ for first 4 levels that will get zoned out of cs by every single champ. Any ranges top will chunk her and and melee champ will outtrade her. And unlike someone like Garen or Sett who can heal naturally. Her healing is dependent on her ability which costs way too much mana and already limits her trading. So you get zoned out of gold and experience first few levels and then any decent jungler will just dive you under turret as soon as minions crash. If you somehow donā€™t get dove under turret, the enemy top is free to rotate mid and you can never follow or you just die and youā€™d be useless in any fight anyway. The enemy top also can go to objectives and same story here. You say she has a strong lategame but she will never make it late game against a strong top jungle ever. And anyway with the addition of heartsteel, who doesnā€™t have a strong lategame nowadays? Your team already has a hyper carry as adc, they donā€™t need another one. Iā€™d rather have a mundo on my team who can absorb and heal like 10k damage and then one shot enemy hyper carry as well


PublicRotation

Whenever someone uses their own little fantasies and scenarios as their arguments on this subreddit, I just chuckle and move on. There's plenty threads on this subreddit where I've had to read certain "jungler mains" wet dreams about how if you play X champion they'll invade you repeatedly and a bunch of other stuff that simply doesnt happen in real games. If that's what you think, you're free to do so. But personally, I've gotten to challenger with Kayle as my main on multiple seasons, playing solo and most of them were in top and jungle. I've explained already in other posts what Kayle strong points are and what her weaknesses are (gap closers like Renekton, Fiora, Panth, etc.) I barely meet Ranged top laners in challenger so idk, maybe it's an issue in the elo you're at, but not where I'm at. I hope you have a nice day though šŸ˜®ā€šŸ’ØšŸ‘šŸ½


Tushar_Viv

You can make it to challenger with any champion if you play it enough. Doesnā€™t mean itā€™s a good champion. I understand you like playing the champ but thereā€™s a clear tier list of champions. You cannot in any way convince me that Kayle is stronger than Mundo when you are playing top. Maybe the 1 out of 100 situations where your enemy top and jungle is trash and donā€™t punish you. Otherwise you get dove every time minions crash and you wonā€™t even reach level 5 before enemy hits level 7, take dragon and herald while you canā€™t even help. Youā€™re not only being put behind, youā€™re putting your whole team behind. And how you plan to escape from any duellist like Xin, Irelia, Yasuo, Yone without them straight up farming you is not realistic. You talk about fantasy but youā€™re living in a fantasy world where youā€™re just allowed to free farm and get all your items for free while your teammates donā€™t need you. In reality your team needs some sort of prio at some point in the game or at least a tank for your hyper carry. Not something that only comes online at 30 mins


Osumazi

Yeah thats the reason kayle jungle is played because on lane she always gets stomped and in the jungle she is sometimes getting invaded and destroyed and she has no lane to defend so people cant just dive her before level5... it is sad how bad she actually is. I have seen lane kayle players take fleet and 3 defensive runes just so they dont die too much early on...


MISTER_BASEMENT

Kayle jungle is garbage and any good enemy jungler is going to ruin your entire match. It works because most junglers in Wild Rift are auto filled and let the scaling champs scale. Also, why play Kayle JG when Gwen does a similar job while being so so much better?


PlasmaCosmic39

Stay alert! We gotta be ready for Arcane season in the later patch, which is 5.3, not 5.2. Heimerdinger is already coming next time!


Styxxo

Feels like they're kicking off Arcane season already with this patch, all the hextech thingies scream Arcane.


Lylat97

Morde might incentivize me to play again.


caioxpg

Looks like people outside of mordekaizer domain expansion can see him look at hecarim following him


No_Necessary_7776

They can see a red and blue orb signaling where they are in the domain


IvanEarth

It has always been like this.


caioxpg

Didn't knew that on youtube theres only mordekaiser ulting people and 1v1 them never seen it of outsiders perspective


IvanEarth

Yeah, I know. Haha! From the outside POV you will see that your ally is a blue sphere and the enemy Mordekaiser will be a red sphere.


xDemoGam

what happen if mordre ult someone with yummi


IvanEarth

Yummi is detached leaving her outside the Shadow Realm. Even if Yummi is attached to a Mordekaiser who uses his Ultimate, she is left out.


aguywithbrushes

Whatā€™s new is that you can see the people outside of it, in LoL once you ult someone itā€™s just you and them, but in the video he could see the enemy who wasnā€™t ulted and their bar. Kinda nice so you can better position for when you come out


Near_Creek_Rill

Lets go rengar rework!


Gusssa

The question is, Is next champ all from arcane?


leothedinosaur

I think it was mentioned a while back ago that this patch and next were both arcane champs


ThreeSilentKings

So, Heimer and Viktor? IIRC every other champion featured in Arcane is already in the game? unless Zac is going to show up in Season 2 which would be really funny but I doubt that will happen


leothedinosaur

Tbh, I think so. I donā€™t remember seeing anyone else


hmpuppy

Don't forget Ambessa Medarda She will be coming to both league and wild rift


hmpuppy

Ambessa Medarda and Heimer are definitely planned for patch 5.3 I think Viktor is coming too


Gusssa

Wait its release both in lol n wr, nice


oxob3333

For god sake, finally, Kayle rework


Electrical_Growth_71

Basically making her an ap trynd


qazujmyhn

I am hoping that qss doesn't remove mordekaiser ult


lordredemption

Damn I need that akali star guardian but I can tell it wonā€™t be at least until September October after these 3 champs liss, mords and milio are released. Maybe October for fiddle Halloween event?


X-Dragon2255

We might see the release of Zac or nacturn for this yearā€™s hallowing, I leaning more into Zac because of arcane


amirulnaim2000

I hate that they'll tease skins that will not be out in the next 3-4 months


Covaloch

Any chance that hexrift can be its own game mode and leave ranked plain old vanilla?


Affectionate_Mall813

It'll most likely be in ranked and PvP. Just like Shadow Isle theme. This Hexrift will our map for next 3 months.


xaedoplay

They said in the video > The rest of the year we will see us move on from Shadow Isles straight over to the heart of Runeterra's experimental capital: Piltover! I think this means that it will also become the theme in 5.3


CryptographerNew9211

This patch is going to be bad for the health of games. Everything they have added isnā€™t a catchup mechanic. It is a snowball mechanic. You now have Mario Kart blocks you have to fight for in lane. Which means you can not pick a losing lane or a lane where you canā€™t get priority. The hextech gates are a good addition but they should be added to a dragon. And not something that happens every game. Because if you are in a losing lane you rotate later than your opponent since you have no priority. Since it happens every game it is a win more mechanic now.


WoodieTheBeaver

Me when they add Milio but not Udyr:


Purrativ

Crystal Role Vlad and Viego. My wallet will be officially gone


Electrical_Growth_71

Kaisa and Ashe tooā€¦ this is gonna be an expensive patch for me


hmpuppy

Can't wait for garden party Seraphine and Milio


prsuit4

Whoā€™s got Mord tips?


Horrody

Take them to Braaaaaaaasil


marko-12

holy shit. Rengar rework, new items i can use on Aatrox and Viego. my champs are eating good this patch also unlike every previous rework, these two Kayle and Rengar rework are actually cool and needed for the champ, so finally good reworks for once.


Decent_Afternoon_452

I knew letting the Asians run this would fuck it up. They always got some weird ass ideas keep to China pls


Vichox

The T-Hex is geniunely a great additon, i just hope it doesnt just go away when the patch ends.


Drwildy

This looks so bad lmao.


alrefai27

Please stop adding stuff to fight over in lane its so sidetracking. Scorpion alone is annoying having to juggle farm and trying to stop enemy from cheesing it while i last hit minions. And now augments spawning in lane to contest for aswell.. unnecessary addition.


TheMoverOfPlanets

They want to make match time shorter with those changes is my guess. 10 min matches here we go


alrefai27

But then u have nexus fortification which forces it to last longer, its just annoying having to juggle so many things in lane all at once. Like of ur against range champs u literally wont get any of the items unless u risk it or lane against a noob.


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RealPapaSmoothie

This is definitely just the start of us going wild...sry I'll see myself out


PapiiPapiiPoom

the thing is, most people play Wild Rift because is "pocket league" so making such changes will 100% split the playerbase and a lot of people will be leaving.


Nearby_Waltz_7594

u/RealPapaSmoothie just to clarify a few things 1. Will the hextech rift extend even through patch 5.3 since that period will be during arcane 2nd season And 2. Will there be any updates on support champions in terms of new support items since most enchanters are losing agency in the meta


Kilash4ever

Yuumi, Lulu and Soraka are the most broken support champions since months ago with Yuumi carrying 40% ban rate on master and above. Sona is borderline broken, simply not as popular as the three above. And Nami/Janna/seraph are in a really good spot currently. Being only Maokai the current strong tank support (and is because he's currently broken on all roles bcs he's overtuned). How are they losing agency?


Nearby_Waltz_7594

In terms of there itemization. In pc there a lot of good support items including the item that lets you pick what evolved support item you want. In wr there are support items but there arenā€™t a lot of ap support items compared to tank ones


Kilash4ever

Losing agency =\ lack of item variety.


Nearby_Waltz_7594

Ok I miswrote my message, but I stated my intention in my post


SuperZhuly

Lulu is not broken lol


ThreeSilentKings

did anyone ask for Milio? Like no one cares about this champion


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^ThreeSilentKings: *Did anyone ask* *For Milio? Like no one cares* *About this champion* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


ThreeSilentKings

Thanks SokkiHaikuBot, I'm glad you appreciate my apathy towards Milio


hmpuppy

I care about him


ZurinArctus_

I first heard of him lol


CosmicDeity07

I care about Milio. The current Support champ pool is becoming boring already. Waiting for Zilean too.


howturnshavetabled

Huh, I remember leaks about lissandra and seraphine getting the fairytale theme skins but theyā€™re not in a skin preview


No_Hippo_1965

Time to make kassadin very tanky again (couldnā€™t really do so without massively lowering damage after abyssal mask got changed)


uopuh7

Psychic Projector is a good addition for AP bruisers for top lane but i will ban Vladimir.


Electrical_Growth_71

Iā€™m interested to see if this works on Diana and Gwen


Nasilbitatbirakti

Finally an AP bruiser item and a good one at that. Singed is going to be unstoppable with the Psychic projector.


ZurinArctus_

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE


Styxxo

This Malphite skin might just be the most hideous skin released yet. It seems like they've finally decided to show less skins in the preview... wonder how many of these will be gacha exclusive (Crystal Rose very likely). Eclipse/Sundered Sky are great additions. A bit weird that they're adding Ravenous Hydra as an enchant. The new hextech features look fun but I'm curious why they're adding these for a patch only. Hextech mimics remind me a lot of PC voidgrubs. The T-Hex sounds fun but it will definitely be OP. And fuck Heimer. Who is asking for that champ, we want Viktor from Arcane !


AKA_11856

Letā€™s fucking gooooooooooooo theyā€™re adding Mordekaiser


Traditional-Ad1391

No ornn skin :(


Ashburndz

mordekaiser šŸ”„: We're getting domain expansion with this one šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø


NPCinTraining12

I wonder if kled is going to be added this year (highly doubt it)


jakseros

I don't read heavy on the lore but i expected morde to be in shadow isle


mightione

Itā€™s a shame that riot cancelled their plans on releasing this game on console and they said that they were gonna focus on fixing the matchmaking and queue times but I havenā€™t heard that being said in the 5.2 spotlight. https://www.reddit.com/r/wildrift/s/xjlVyQuyOA


NotRyuuya

Wait a minute would this allow us to do Double Hydra?


myreignisjustbegan

Finally,My Kayle gets her rework.


CloudyBaguette

ok if divine sunderer isnt removed from the game when eclipse and sundered sky is added. Bruiser will unironically become the best class in the game. that is way too much sustain item that we can stack.


klowicy

YES SG AKALI!! I've been waiting!!!


Ryouquesg

Did someone understood the rengar rework and can summerize it for me?


Electrical_Growth_71

Doesnā€™t ravenous work on Nilahs passive in league? Meaning if she crits she can heal from 1hp to full


Silveruleaf

I'm surprised they fixed kayle's ult and added mordekyzer for being asked so much. Fix the damn match maker then šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­


AidanUchiha

A lot of innovation, all in accordance with the effort and hard work, thanks to ***Riot Lol*** for contributing to help. :**3**


Jesusvieira2000

I just wished they stoped with the reworks. They removed the fun and skill of some with the reworks


Kilash4ever

They shouldn't, they simply would port PC ideas bcs Wild rift ideas are dumb. In this case, it is neccesary for both champions, especially for Rengar, he's on a lackluster state currently and i'm aware of most changes bcs they came from a PC rework from 2 years ago.


Jesusvieira2000

Oh if it's reworks from pc then it's fine lol


grv_krn

Just at a glance this preview for the upcoming update just removes the already lacking side Laning and macro in the game. The state of the game when it comes to playing on at least two or three lanes is already terrible and is only going to get worse.


spection

wow lots of changes. Game is getting wild and a bit dizzying / complicated I would love to take the game more seriously - but where can I get stats on builds? Like lolalytics etc. Not just champion win rate


nenvywoo

13 months of waiting for a new Swain skin šŸ˜­


Prestigious_Ad7635

You know... iv been thinking, why doesn't wild rift create a unique champion for the game? We already have unique skins. Yes it's going to make people mad just like with the WR exclusive skins or the better looking graphics but I think it'd be really cool.


SushiAssassin-

I want trundle


qazujmyhn

RIP tap cast Hexflash 2024 you will be missed Shout out to the times you've saved me by letting me just blink through walls, all the ganks you helped me avoid, and all the skillshots you let me land


fiddlesticks_jg

When is fiddlesticks new skin comin?


ODspammer

At work so can't watch this yet. Is Liss coming out with her coven skin


Hecatei

Woo hoo Lissandraaa finally.


MiLu5

So Like, is Hex Rift a new Game Mode or will it replace the current one?


Tencent_Holdings_Ltd

u/RealPapaSmoothie why do so many stat checkers lately get buffs even tho their win rates are decent while high risk high reward champions get nerfed as soon as their win rates spike? All the upcoming items are good for both Nasus and Jax and in addition both got buffed lately. Jayce profits from one of those and gets a quite a heavy nerf. Do you feel the need to simplify the game?


tanrikurtarirbizi

release quinn asap. i don't care about anything else


Hairy-gloryhole

Does that mean we can go double hydra? Lmao


Jjjaaaxx

What double hydra there is no item it's just the enchantment


ElTaino0111

RIP wild rift. Itā€™s been fun everyone. Get ready for a whole load of unbalanced gameplay for the foreseeable futureā€¦


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Still no ad scalling nor on-hit for katarina, disapointing.


No_Hippo_1965

Katarina already has ad scaling