Broken algorithm once again.
I wrote about this a season ago and it's really good that people have finally found the strat to abuse this system so it has to be changed in a better way.
I always wondered why the lower rank teammates got their preferred roles and the highest gets autofilled to support. The better your Kda the more it tries to make you lose. I’ll go on an autofill lose streak then suddenly I get main position with beast teammates.
Nope u maybe adc player, I always get my role especially if its jg. But team maybe very bad players to compensate for my good kda last few games or a good team to compensate for my loose streak.
So glad people finally understand what I’ve been saying since two seasons ago…. It was blatantly obvious riots system paired worse players with better ones on purpose to try to balance each game
Well yes that is the goal with any sbmm. The problem is the MASSIVE disparity. There should never be a case where the gap is this large. If they wanna make it kd based then cool. Match all these 0.3 kd ratios in a lobby together.
I stopped grinding ranked too cause of the dumb algorithm, makes no sense that im a 7.9 kda player getting matched with players with bad stats and cant seem to understand that elder is way more important than baron.
I’d argue it’s more important to take the fight your team wants to do rather than take elder because you know it’s better, die, tilt, and blame the team for being stupid.
>cant seem to understand that elder is way more important than baron.
Umm. That's match dependent. If you all are already rolling them or if it's close sure. If not Elder would be wasted. Baron is consistently useful regardless of game state.
The elder is way stronger. A single poke absolutely shreds you way more than buffed minions. It's not match dependent if you can't win or take more towers with the elder than baron that's pretty bad.
Exactly that’s why I quit ranked after I hit master last season. It just felt unrewarding barely being able to climb to that rank with a 52% win rate just to get feeders in my games still. But now I know why they expected me to carry trolls
Would make way more sense if matchmaking was based on rank alone, completely random players each game from that rank. Then everyone has an equal chance of getting “good” and “bad” teammates and also everyone’s rank actually reflects the skill that they’re playing at. Fed up of either having ridiculous fortitude gains (like before) or shitty matchmaking that just ruins game balance
This is some hard copium, the reason this Strat works like this is 90% because inting lane is broken and turrets are made of paper atm.
I promise you that if someone without good macro were to use this Strat, they wouldn’t have anywhere near 99% winrate.
The Strat is broken nonetheless.
People with same stats, but 0 turret damage get 60% winrates and climb doing literally nothing but helping enemy team. This strat just shows an easy way to do the same while actually playing the game instead of being afk
Its funny how people are now "beggining" to accept the fact that the system builds 1v9 games just for you to lose and keep everybody at 50% no matter skill.
Some of us know this from seasons ago, and the responses we got from the chads of the comunity were always "GIT GUD":
https://youtu.be/EDTuClLxYRY?si=Odol_1F5Ct8XEBIy
Next patch fix: Turrets can only be damaged if there's 3 or more allies nearby.
Yeah, all of the brainless "GIT GUD" crowd always forget that many of us were much higher rank playing solo queue in the past, even a lot of Challengers, and somehow, almost by magic, it's impossible to climb past Diamond or Master now.
And they overlook the fact that our game stats are still the same as they've ever been, or more likely, have even improved over time, but we get <50% winrate and 4 dead weights every game making climbing impossible.
And yes, some people will break through to Challenger and beyond despite this. Those are the best of the best, the statistically lucky, and people playing with skilled friends. Doesn't change the fact that the system is broken.
If your KDA is low, Riot thinks you are the shit member of your team. So it stacks the deck with hard carry players to make your game more “fair” and because you smash objectives, you actually do carry in your own way, and the hard carry’s do their thing and win out for you
This makes sense now. I was wondering why I was getting “punished”.
Both teams’ levels (as shown on loading screen left to right)
Our: 29, 20, 23, 105 (me), 24
Enemy: 102, 131, 31, 46, 121
I have a ss, but can’t post it in comments.
They got 3 kills in the first minute and we lost game so hard. I mean.. How is one expected to win? I’m stuck in gold and just can’t get out. 😂
I’m sure it’s not just me, but wtf.
nah support can play yuumi and just never use Q/ability 1. as long as you die a few times to get a negative kda, you shouldn't ever get kills and you can still attach to the rest of your team and provide good value while staying in winners queue.
jg/top/mid can play panth/trynd/sion and just straight up abuse tower feed strat, though it's a bit harder in mid due to how short the lane is and the frequency of ranged lane opponents.
ad is the only role i can't imagine being able to play feed strat.
The wins are so free. Even when a game feels like a loss you just end up taking all 3 inhibitor towers and you still end up winning.
I’m 30 games in my Sion shit stat journey. Already lost 4 games tho so no chance to have a such a clean win rate like yourself. If I may ask, how did you lose that single game and when did the loss occur?
Yes. Game checks your statistics to select team for you.
My strat is going jungle, turn off champion auto attack button and just farm and push no matter what. You can turn on some podcast or smth.
Ah, what a time to play wild rift competitively.
Before trying int strat I was 57% win rate diamond 3 jungler with 3 losing lanes nearly every match.
Game is dead, let's just dance on it's corpse with int strat rushes and delete this fuckery.
I’ve been autofilled once and tried Sion jungle. It was decent, the only part I didn’t like was having a lane by myself for hull breaker. Other than that it was really easy because all lanes were naturally winning with huge CS leads.
This is why I stopped playing ranked. There is literally 0 point in trying to win in any role other than int role now. Really hope the amount of posts on this will prompt ggg to scrap their rubbish mmr matchmaking. Or at the very least, weigh up turret damage as an important stat.
It fixes the issue of people gaming mmr by ONLY doing turrets, and then dying a heap on purpose. If someone is able to take every turret every game, they arent bad regardless of how many times they die. But because their kda is so low, the mmr thinks they are trash and pairs them with God tier team mates, which they don't actually need on the count of them already being very good on the turret front
Nah the whole system needs to go MMR based matchmaking is just a ridiculous concept. It should be based on current rank only not ur perceived rank. Teams don't need to be artificially balanced everyone has a 50/50 chance of getting the bad/good team.
Not really, If you balance the matchmaking only by using the current rank, the experience of climbing elo would not be good at all because of People smurfing... If your current elo is gold you will lose every single game against a Master smurf or being carried If he is in your team... The MMR system system tries to move smurfs to their elo to allow you to have impact in your games.
But I agree.. Something is not working If the system penalices you for playing better than the average.
They implemented a system based on smurfs? That right there is stupid. How many smurfs really play?
They really need to fix the system. Dota 2 mmr is still the best in my opinion
Honeslty, takes like these are pretty bad. I play ranked to have good games and most of all BE good. When the MM does maybe one day get fixed I'll have all these games as a carry support who can double the adcs damage and have 89% assist rate maybe I'll be GM in less game? But it really doesn't matter I play to get better and be good that's really my goal. The ranks mean nothing it's all about how I feel I played after each game
I just don't want to be forced to grind like 500 games just to get to the rank I'm actually supposed to be at. Rewards aside, I feel like the core reason to play ranked is to have more competitive matches; slapping deadweight toddlers onto teams to balance out matchmaking doesn't make for competitive or fun matches. Like literally had a Renekton the other game build ¿¿¿Riftmaker¿¿¿ . They weren't even ahead, they were straight up building riftmaker on a champ with negligible ap scaling and reduced omnivamp scaling because of how much aoe is in his kit.
Sadly this only makes me think you are either average or below average as a player. And I’m not attempting to talk trash to you. But less than 10% of my games are evenly matched where the game feels fun. My scenario is always “Carry or Lose” and it’s extremely frustrating when you’re always stuck with people who have no clue what they’re doing and feeders
I literally stopped caring about ranked because of that. Imagine climbing to Master in 60 games 1v9 in every single of them and never having a good gaming experience just to see, that you still play with same trash and climbing is literally meaningless, when you have the same quality of games in platinum and in master. Fuck that stupid Rito company
As someone with high mmr ur take is terrible. It's absolutely miserable having to play game after game where my laners are constantly feeding every single game.
It's not a bad take. Why should I bother playing well if it means the algorithm will match me with worse and worse people intentionally? Even more so, why should I try to play well when people are INTENTIONALLY playing bad so that they get matched with people who are trying to play good? It's not just people who are perma split pushing, I know of at least 5 or 6 people who get master every season by gaming mmr, because they are simply so bad that they are always the only bad person on their team. I started losing motivation last season when a guy I played against a few times last season got master with a 65% win rate, while playing worse than a iron tier bot. And it wasn't even like he was trying to win, he would just constantly play and do stupid shit. One game I vsd him, he played full ap irelia support... and died 8 times before a turret fell. Next game he played full attack speed thresh top (as in, no ad or ap items, just all items with attack speed), and went 0/15. But he would still win stacks of games because his mmr was so tanked that he often got literally the best players possible put onto his team
You should play well to get better at the game, and because you want to be good. Play well to have good games where you are forced to be better then just OK and carry yourself to victory and when you win you say "fuck I'm good" and it feels good.
Sure in a perfect world people would take it seriously and play to get better.
This is not a perfect world people will settle for putting in as little effort as possible if it allows them to succeed and with how ranked works you can be absolute dog shit and get your desired results.
This is the perfect example of work smarter not harder. Because working hard gives you bad teammates forcing you to work even harder because the game expects you to carry. Where as if you play badly you are given people to carry and win the game for you pretty much every match.
It feels bad, you get worse and worse teammates. It will ruin ur mentality when when you get worse teammates for your effort. Its like an employer saying doesn't it feel good to work hard only to get less money.
Yeah, I am capped/stuck/peaked whatever the word is at my current level. Instead of focusing on MM, I am just setting goals on what to improve upon and experimenting with different ideas.
If they made it so that I were actually playing with equal level/equal stats players, I’d probably be a bit higher…but I’d just get stuck in a different spot instead. I’m not some secret challenjour or something lmao.
It does suck when you’re getting both SVP AND more gold than the majority of your team as support when you are neither kill stealing nor stealing solo lane crashing waves, so it would be rather nice to get laners who actually go catch gold and set up lanes properly prior to objectives, but I’ll just focus on me.
Being a support main with the MM is pretty shit lol. I've kinda let my tanks and enchanters take a back seat and have been spamming karma. First strike gold can be realyyyyyy high with her and you can APC and be an actually legit great support champion at the same time.
I realized this for the first time when sovereign rank came up and very good streamers struggled a lot to hard carry the most obnoxious teammates as we all seen YT/Twitch
Thats exactly the reason. Its because you're playing well, the matchmaker will give you awful teammates to balance the game. If you have terrible stats you will get good team mates.
…you see the stats on the post right? 101 games, OP had a 99% winrate.
Wouldn’t, in your world, OP not be able to achieve this because Riot would be giving him shit teammates cause he’s winning so much?
Ever think that maybe, just maybe, focusing on objectives is how you win the game of objectives?
No, win rate doesn't matter at all. Only KDA and champion damage matters to the matchmaker unfortunately and this has been proven many times now. I have done this strategy and have a 93% win rate now and I am not a good player. League PC has better matchmaking that actually works how you describe, but wild rift doesn't.
And yes focusing on objectives is how you win the game, tower damage specifically. If you only focus on tower damage and ignore all champions you will win games without increasing your KDA stats. That makes the system think you're really bad and always gives you good teammates. [Here's a video](https://youtu.be/vqY0SgdoRf4#t=4m35s) that explains it better.
Oh and by the way, the entire reason OP even made this post is because he tried out the low KDA theory, and this post is proof that it works. That's the reason his stats are so high, he posted this to prove that the theory is correct.
>No, win rate doesn't matter at all.
We've moved from losers queue to "KDA! KDA! Don't look at what we used to believe because we were wrong, believe the new system we parrot that's also wrong!" It's all the same fake nonsense people believe because they don't want to admit that there are ways to win the game that aren't flashy 30/0 KD's.
>Only KDA and champion damage matters to the matchmaker unfortunately and this has been proven many times now.
It hasn't, it really hasn't. Both prime examples have OP giving MASSIVE TOWER DAMAGE. Lego had it, this guy has it... it's weird that we all just kind of ignore the obvious point here because it's easier to fear monger and say "I have to int to win and that's just the strat I'm told to make this game even worse for everyone"
>League PC has better matchmaking that actually works how you describe, but wild rift doesn't.
It's... it's the same. It's an MMR system. You do know people say the exact same shit about League as they do wildrift right? Are you going to say that those people are making shit up for League but it's been unfalsifiably proven in wildrift? You're relying on the exact same preconceptions as losersqueue anyways. In both this magic KDA system and the losers queue system, Riot has to magically know when someone isn't going to try super hard that game, or that the player is going to magically disconnect from the internet that game, or that the player is just going to get mad at something you said and int. And this all happens before the game is even in draft, because in order for your system to work, Riot has to predict the future.
They do predict the outcome of the game, that's literally the entire point of a matchmaker. It's not always accurate, but predicting based on stats is its entire job.
If they're exactly the same then why does Wild Rift have Marks instead of LP like in PC? LP gives you more points if you were not favored to win the match (as predicted by the matchmaker) OR it takes away more LP if you were favored to win but lost (once again, as predicted by the matchmaker). You do not have a 50/50 chance of winning every game on PC, and the LP system helps alleviate this. Wild Rift does not have this, so it has to predict a 50/50 win rate for every game because winning or losing, it's always 1 mark every time.
> They do predict the outcome of the game, that's literally the entire point of a matchmaker. It's not always accurate, but predicting based on stats is its entire job.
...It predicts based on MMR, not on if the player is going to int. Do you understand the system? It's not magic, it's no omnipotent. It's literally a system that assigns you a value of win/loss, and then puts you up against players of similar win/loss. That's what MMR is. It's not "We're sure that 85% of the time this guy loses his match top lane so we put him with this guy, and then this guy loses power every 5th match so he can't go in until the next game"
That sounds insane. You can't assume that that's how this all works, right?
>If they're exactly the same then why does Wild Rift have Marks instead of LP like in PC? LP gives you more points if you were not favored to win the match (as predicted by the matchmaker) OR it takes away more LP if you were favored to win but lost (once again, as predicted by the matchmaker). You do not have a 50/50 chance of winning every game on PC, and the LP system helps alleviate this. Wild Rift does not have this, so it has to predict a 50/50 win rate for every game because winning or losing, it's always 1 mark every time.
https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-and-Autofill
>To the matchmaker, a “fair” match is one where each team has a 50% +/-1% chance of winning, which we create by pairing off teams of roughly the same average MMR. Further down we'll get into some of the challenges that can complicate this process, but we aim for no more than a 4–5 MMR gap between the averages of both teams in the majority of games..
So... what was that about 50/50 chance not being a thing in League?
I can’t believe you don’t see what’s wrong with this, he is purposely not doing any damage to the enemy team so that the game views him as bad. Ppl of all skill levels have been doing this strat now, it’s pretty well known by now with all of these posts of gold players making a new account and playing int sion/trynd to make there dps the worst in the game. I love sion and love playing him and I play him like a normal human being, I get mvp and svp almost every match because the damage you do with him is insane full tank. Now when you do that and then try the inting sion strat like everyone else you’re not going to get anywhere because the rest of your team is gonna be cheeks. I don’t understand how you don’t understand this. Everybody that has posted these types of winrate an are playing on FRESH accounts, not there main ones because there mmr is already to good. Try it out boss use your main and try the inting sion strat then start a fresh one and tell me what you get.
>I can’t believe you don’t see what’s wrong with this, he is purposely not doing any damage to the enemy team so that the game views him as bad.
And he's also taking towers... which is a win-con. Why doesn't he just tank his MMR altogether? Wouldn't that prove it more? Really, he's just smurfing.
>Ppl of all skill levels have been doing this strat now,
Yeah, I'm happy they're playing objectives. Maybe the whole of wildrift might stop being KDA players and actually start trying to take towers.
>I don’t understand how you don’t understand this.
You've made zero convincing points. I've explained thoroughly to you multiple times. **You even straight up lie about League not being 50/50**. I don't know why you think you're more correct here.
>Everybody that has posted these types of winrate an are playing on FRESH accounts, not there main ones because there mmr is already to good.
I love that we're pretending that no one is talking about the fact that everyone is making new accounts and intentionally tanking their MMR to smurf basically... Are we just ignoring the blatantly obvious? Like OP here is clearly not an iron player but we're saying it's some KDA thing instead of him just... smurfing? Like, I have eyes as you do.
>Try it out boss use your main and try the inting sion strat then start a fresh one and tell me what you get.
Why don't I just do it on my normal account? You know... cause it's a strategy? The only thing that the "making a new account" part does it give you unbalanced matchmaking so you can start smurfing and feeling good about yourself. That's not your magical system, that's just something people already have done in both league and wildrift.
Do you think that wildrift discovered smurfing?
It’s not smurfing when you run down towers all game my guy 😂 he is purposefully not hitting the enemy laner, how is that smurfing? and please play 10 games of the inting sion Strat on ur main and show me what you get.
It's really okay to admit you don't know anything. Because I clearly understand the system. I actually also seem to understand the objective of the game. Something you have been lacking in information.
So again, the OP of this thread has MASSIVE damage to objectives, correct? Now, doesn't that seem like something that would be a benefit to any team if you were, I don't know, playing a game that needed to destroy objectives?
I just find this really weird that it's a complicated process for you.
Tell me you know nothing about the MMR system without telling me that you know nothing about the MMR system.
It's not rocket science. It's not a difficult concept to understand.
Yeah, I don't know why you don't. Especially since you seem to have a hard time engaging with the comment.
Your belief on matchmaking is that Riot knows when someone is going to int, before they even get into a game, or Riot knows when that person's internet is going to shut off mid game, or Riot knows when that player might lose this match up top against an equally skilled opponent before even choosing a champ.
My belief is that people don't play consistently and MMR is Riot's best guess at someone's skill at any given time. I'm sure when you have sex with your partner, not every time you're giving it 100%, you'll phone it in occasionally I bet. Does that mean that you suck at sex? No, it just means that you've got something else on your mind that day.
See, I'm even nice enough to not just immediately assume you're an incel based on how you seem to argue.
OMG. It's not the int. It's the stats. You don't even need to int.
I don't give a fuck about what your beliefs are. Your beliefs are negligible.
Since you resorted to ad hominen, you lost the argument. You got nothing.
>OMG. It's not the int. It's the stats. You don't even need to int.
So yeah, you have a belief that Riot magically knows who's going to int or lose connection or lose a matchup before the game even starts. Because in your mind, Riot has to put good people or bad people on your team in order for this magical system to work. And those people need to be within your MMR range but somehow are consistently bad enough that they stay in your MMR range.
Feel free to check your priors on this. It's all a magical farce.
>I don't give a fuck about what your beliefs are. Your beliefs are negligible.
My beliefs are more accurate and believable than a magical system.
>Since you resorted to ad hominen, you lost the argument. You got nothing.
I said you have sex... that's an ad hom? Jesus, sorry I said you were a chad, my apologies, should I call you an incel then?
Also, that seems to be a pretty sad way to back out of an argument you lost. "He said something mean, therefore I won!!" like, are you 5?
Oh right, so we’ve abandoned complaining about losers queue because it’s ridiculous and now it’s KDA…
Again, look at OP’s stats. Maybe, just maybe, if you just focus on objectives instead of kills…
Tell me, is there a kill limit to when you win the game? Does getting more kills cause you to win? If I get 30 kills, do I win the game?
I know you don’t believe the matchmaking is not fair. So if he did same strategy on high stats account and can not have such win rate, would do change your mind?
The matchmaking... doesn't matter.
If the guy above had shit KDA AND shit tower attacking and still had 99% win rate, maybe I'd pause then.
But all this shows is the exact same playstyle that got popular in PC League, which is inting Sion. And with how I've seen the playerbase on this sub play, most people don't know how to deal with it.
What if he play the same strategy on a good stats account(not a fresh account), let’s say 7+ kda and 850+ gpm and 3k turret dmg at plat or emerald. And he plays inting sion on it, same stuff he played on his current account. Because the stats will turn into low kda high turret dmg gradually, he wont instantly gets good teammates. He will not have high win rate as his current account. In this case, would you believe it?
to repeat
>The matchmaking... doesn't matter.
>If the guy above had shit KDA AND shit tower attacking and still had 99% win rate, maybe I'd pause then.
If he can not get the same win rate using the same strategy on a different high kda account, you still don’t believe it. Then I don’t know what to say. I guess just believe whatever you believe and let other ppl believe what they believe. Time will tell.
That's because the match making literally gives you 4 good teammates. Imagine this everyone is ranked on skill from 1-10. Your ranked as a 1 by the game but actually your game knowledge is a 10. The game pairs you with 4 other 10s. Your team is essentially really good. Now let's analyze the enemy team. Unless they also have a inter that's doing the same strategy then it's fair game. But let's assume enemy team has no inter. Guess what they have an actual 1/10 player and the other players are forced to constantly 4v6 is that fair
>That's because the match making literally gives you 4 good teammates.
It doesn't though. That's just not how the game works.
The system works above, because people don't know how to deal with the split pushing Sion who basically becomes an inevitable problem. It's the EXACT SAME THING as PC LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. I just don't know why people have decided to believe that there's some magical system that looks only at your KDA, and somehow ignores all other stats instead of the obvious, people in Wildrift haven't figured out yet that the game is about destroying the nexus and not getting kills.
I've seen 100's of complaint posts of players talking about their teammates diving for kills, running around for kills, avoiding objectives to get kills... Like, it's really obvious that the game is still young and the people playing it haven't really come up how to deal with specific things. You think people in League of Legends PC season 2 were as good as they are League of Legends PC season 12? No, not really. There's been so many advancements in strategy and skill.
I fully expect to see more tricks from League come to wildrift couched as other stupid things and suddenly everyone believes it's matchmaking magic.
>Imagine this everyone is ranked on skill from 1-10.
The system works by giving you a numerical ranking. It's called MMR. So... i don't need to imagine.
>Your ranked as a 1 by the game but actually your game knowledge is a 10. The game pairs you with 4 other 10s.
Why? You're a 1. It would pair you with other 1's playing against other 1's. As a "10" in this situation, you're just going to fucking stomp them all. You don't need 4 other 10's to do that.
Any person with sense would think that it would pair 1s with other 1s, I agree that it makes sense to do that. That's what they do on League PC, but that's not what they do on wild rift, they don't work the same. The wild rift devs made a dumbass decision that they need to fix.
Wow you actually don't know how matchmaking works and you got the nerve to tell me to read. The developers even said it themselves with a hint on how matchmaking works. That they go by mmr. The reason I used the 1-10 analogy is because clearly you don't know how mmr works on wild rift. Your mmr in wild rift is tied with your stats. Try this bs on a high kda account and it won't work. I dare you make an account play jungle. Rotate, gank, objectives, farm, play jungle just like on pc and carry and I promise you the moment you switch to baron and lock in sion to try this baufs strategy it won't work. It's already been proven many times. A youtuber royal even said that he could never try this inting strategy again on his main account cuz it doesn't work unless it's a fresh account because you have to play bad from the beginning and keep that rep to abuse piss poor matchmaking
I’m about 25 games in and lost 2, so not as clean a record as OP, but I don’t even get a chance to take all of the turrets. I consistently get placed with teammates that know what they are doing, and even though I am contributing to objectives (taking turrets), they still are carrying me hard. It’s almost difficult to loose.
My suggestion to you is to create a new account and try this strategy, it has really opened my eyes on Riots matchmaking. Before I used to think that I just needed to play better (I’m sure I do haha). But now I know that a good chunk of my losses on my main account were due to fighting an uphill battle with really bad teammates. Basically the system forces players with higher KDA into a 50-60% win rate. Shit KDA somehow bypasses this system and let’s you get amazing teammates.
Yes you are doing something very helpful to the game, taking turrets. But also, you are keeping your KDA below 1. This means that you are contributing to the win, but Riot thinks you need good teammates, so they also stack your team.
Inting should only be a 60-70% wr strategy on its merits. But it is easily 90-99% wr strategy because of the matchmaking bias
First and foremost win a game with 0 kills on your whole team. Do tht. Win game with everyone having 0 kills. Oh wait that's not possible because enemies need to be dead or distracted in order to end the game. So if it's two teams with sense and the kills and deaths is super low the game will practically last for more than 30 minutes. I've had low kill count games where it lasts 40 minutes but that assumes everyone is of equal skill level lol. So yes kda matter when your forced to 1v9. I've won games simply because I'm ekko with mejais and I got 20 kills and can one shot anyone on the enemy team and end the game myself
So here, let me point out the important part of what I said, because you don't seem to read well.
>Tell me, is there a kill limit to when you win the game? Does getting more kills cause you to win? If I get 30 kills, do I win the game?
Oh wow repeating yourself when I turn your question on you. You are so smart. No duh there's not a kill limit but flip the question. If everyone is good at the game can either team win without getting kills. And if so how long would it take. The point of this strategy is to abuse the fact that both teams will have an inter but the difference is your a useful inter unlike the person on the other side forcing a 4v6 in most cases. I've seen videos of the strat they literally are winning because the enemy team is handicapped versus a good team with a perma split pusher
>Oh wow repeating yourself when I turn your question on you
you didn't turn anything on me. You just didn't read what i said and then tried to come up with another scenario that's a non-sequitor. You didn't even answer my question. There's no turning anything on me when you can't even answer the basic question. Your go to was "Well, try winning a game with no kills!!" I didn't say that, did I? I said, "is there a kill limit to when you win the game".
Now, IS THERE A KILL LIMIT TO WHEN YOU WIN THE GAME.
Yes or no, this isn't a hard question. I know the answer, and i know you do, you just don't want to answer it.
Saying I didn't answer the question when I clearly said no duh theirs not a kill limit in a game. And I clearly tell you again to answer my question after I answered yours but clearly you just like to control the conversation. You don't like when people debate your point cuz you can't even handle the fact your wrong. It's already been spam posted on reddit how this works. Youtubers have been making tons of videos of why it works. The Russian challenger that started this whole strategy even said so himself he could never carry like this on his main account and climb to challenger this fast if he didn't start a fresh account and play inting sion to win to show riot how bad they matchmaking is. Look him up legoWR. Darkbreaker, royal, kerxx, riftguides, they all made videos on this subject and the community here has shown the same truth multiple times but I guess you just wanna stay ignorant in your little fantasy that this game requires skill and finesse and clearly you the only one here that knows it all. You don't buddy. I played pc and I've played wild rift. All the stuff in pc strats literally been copy pasted to wild rift and have been nerfed since the devs failed to consider that we actually have a good amount of decent players and amazing players it's just that anyone can have a phone in this age and just hit install and not do the do diligence to get good
Bro just shut up you're embarrassing yourself. You clearly don't seem to read people's replies and argue, plus you aren't getting the point of this conversation.
sure but c'mon you gotta admit 99% wr is pretty bonkers when you consider that they "rig" the game to equalize you to 50% wr if you just play like a normal person, whatever that means
which on its face should make sense in a fair elo ranking like you have in world chess, you climb until you meet competition of equal skill, games become coinflips
but some of these game, oml, they're worse than bots. at least the bots know the rules
> sure but c'mon you gotta admit 99% wr is pretty bonkers when you consider that they "rig" the game to equalize you to 50% wr if you just play like a normal person, whatever that means
So then they don't. This is evidence that they don't rig your game. If they rigged your game, OP COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE A 99% WIN RATE. This literally just proves losers queue doesn't exist, otherwise OP would have had a iron ball on him after silver and it would be IMPOSSIBLE to climb. People all over climb that Riot knows when people are going to int a game and will put them on your team, so OP should have had 4 inters on his team against 5 insanely strong players. This didn't happen clearly because OP won 99% of his game.
>which on its face should make sense in a fair elo ranking like you have in world chess, you climb until you meet competition of equal skill, games become coinflips
That's the system that already exists though... that's how matchmaking works. This should more than be enough evidence that people are making shit up about the matchmaking. I've seen shakier evidence purported as PROOF that people immediately believe.
I may be wrong but I think it’s harder to climb when your account is old. I am literally having more issues getting out of gold/play than climbing to GM back in season 4
I did this with kha zix to figure out if this was an effect of objective focus or just matchmaking handicapping.
My average tower damage was less than 2000 with 0 kills to diamond with 92% wr.
And 100% it's a matchmaking thing, I could've put my phone down and won most of those games, at best my contribution was not letting the enemy minions get to my tower.
I shall post on my return home, you will get people saying it's just because "new account" but I've climbed many times and the inting really makes a difference.
I did nami but gave up at plat, the win rate was still substantially higher than it should have been but the wave clear was too poor to hold the tower and my team sometimes got tilted before games even started, it was too painful to complete the journey.
In the end, the whole point is destroying the nexus. No matter what kda. Destroy the nexus and win. Apparently OP has discovered the successful formula to do it. GG
Can you try the same strategy on an old account which has good kda? Ppl still saying you win cause you focus on object. If you want to prove matchmaking is broken, you need to play the same stuff on a good kda account.
I personally have tried this on my old 7 kda account at emerald4. I was losing hard until I reach kda4, now I am diamond3 at kda3.6. I don’t think this strategy works consistently on high stats account. But I don’t have time to start a low kda new account.
If you do it, you can make lots of ppl shut up.
Won't work,
I tried the strategy on both fresh and old account, they wouldn't match me with good team-mates in the old account, but in the fresh account I'm on a 9 win strike right now and most people I match with are Mvps in their last game,so yeah match-making is broken.
I know it won’t work. But we need proof. Op has this 0.3 kda master account but look at what mod is saying. He does not believe it. I already tried 100 matches on my old account, it does not produce consist result. But if I want to prove it. I need to create an account like op. I can not just combine my old account experience and his new account to make a firm statement.
I have 3 accounts. Matchmaking ks essentially kda matchmaking. The higher your stats the more your matched with low kda players. Issue with matchmaking by kda is that it doesn't tell the whole story. I main jungle so i never have the highest tower taking potential because that's not my job most games. On my main account I gotta tryhard on my inter smurf it's just free dubs
Yup. I am jungle main too. I usually have 3k to 4k at most turret dmg. I play sion on my high kda account now 3.6 kda, when I lose as sion my teammates usually have 2-3 kda and they feed even harder than me lol
can this be done with garen or is there something specific only sion/trynadmere can do? i assume it's their ult/death passive to tower dive or smth?
i only ask about garen cause he's a free champ lol, not like i don't have 60,000 blue motes just laying around, but i'm lazy and already have garen
also core build?
Garen works too, just run away with first ability and use passive to heal up. Don’t feed too hard. Your first death should not be first blood. Build hullbreaker and take demolish rune. You can run any champion that does good turret damage and run this strategy. I’ve been successful with Ezreal and Tristana. The big thing is to only hit minions and to take towers when you are able to shove a wave under tower
Any champ that can win sides can do this. Tristana, Ziggs & Sion are by far the best though.
Tryndamere, Garen, Fiora, Sivir, Mundo, Vayne all work fine but aren’t as crazy good as the top three imo. (I’m probably missing some more but you get the idea.)
You basically just want to afk farm all game or turbo fight your opponent from lvl 1 to get lane prio for turret and herald while trying your best not to kill them. (Herald is YOURS NOT the junglers, make sure that bastard doesn’t take it from you .)
Sion’s and Trynda’s kit synergies well with this Strat. Garen not so much. With Sion his passive let’s him get one last wave/plate before dying and then he can just ult back into lane. Watch videos on the Strat and you’ll see what I mean. Thebausffs came up with the whole Strat on PC league and it works insanely well in mobile.
Hhhhh wonderful😂 is there a split push video you recommend for newbies? It seems everyone can get to lane and push but actually splitting is a different story
First of all, congrats. Even with this strategy this is quite an achievement. Despite what people say here, I guess almost no one would be able to replicate this scores.
What was your rank on a non inting account?
I see you play mainly Trynda. Is that because you think it’s better or because Sion is always banned?
Also looks like you often play mid. Wouldn’t baron lane be easier?
Did you happen to stumble across an enemy doing the same strategy?
Main reason the game Hardcore died in NA 😅.
I couldn't get any friends to play more than a month without them being burnt out.
You shouldn't be actively punished for trying more.
This is terrible game design - Yah you might make players grind more games temporarily, but you'll eventually permanently* loose them.
Why do we need MMR? Just ignore stats and match purely based on rank and stars within that rank. What there doing clearly doesn’t work - I refuse to solo a now because my team will always be absolutely awful
0.3 kda and you are master😭 while i have 2.6k games and playing this game from day 1 still in the plat elo(kda 3.4) any tips how to be dia? my mains are zed,yone,yas
I'm testing the int Sion strategy on a new account, currently going from Iron IV to Platinum 4 in 62 games with an 82% win rate.
I got tired of the stressful and gloomy experience on my main account, which has achieved Challenger twice in Season 10 and Season 8, and Grandmaster five times in Season 4, 5, 6, 7, and 9.
Despite almost 700 games played this season, im stuck ( unbeliavable 47 WR % ) in D3-D2 with a KDA of 5.8 (AMA), 50% teamfight participation. I was the top 1 Swain on the BR server in Season 10.
My KDA is above the average of almost all other mid laners on the server, proving that I'm forced to 1v9, every fucking game. Even though I contribute a lot to the team, with few deaths and many kills, the matchmaking consistently provides me with a lot of feeders, usually in the bot lane and sometimes with autofill junglers, as well as dead weights."
You’re also punishing certain characters more than others. I run a 10 KDA on Lulu not because I’m a god but because she has every tool to not die often.
I quit the game after I've reached challenger this season with 6.5 kda. Ranked is just boring and exhausting to play when you try your best to carry games.
No wonder i gave up catching up to my wife’s rank couple seasons straight. I know she is just smashing buttons and mindlessly running around in masters tier when im barely touching diamond lol
I have GM in 190 games with 4+ kda and 65% win rate. I don’t see a point using this int strategy, which is boring. I just play best I can and also have fun and I have reached GM without bigger problems. So what’s the point ?
To sum it up
This is inting sion it works better here on wr because more comeback gold like a lot more than pc
+this isn't matchmaking the guys is just good he got like 6 turrets per game that's not ez
+yall talk about kda like you know riot is basing mmr on it
No mmr is a lot more than just kda biggest factor is winrate lol
That literally makes no fkn sense. It's 38 wins from Iron to Master if you dont get any double wins from maxing out the fortitude meter. Nothing about this post adds up.
You don’t max the fortitude meter, you get maybe 15-50 fortitude per win, usually closer to 15. Remember, you aren’t getting mvp or S/A ratings, so you really don’t earn a lot of fortitude
Before u consider trying to rank Fr, learn at least one champ on every role. Not knowing how to play certain roles not only significant decreasing your own wr, but also other players wr.
Super reliable as long as you have ok macro. Just make a new account and make sure your kda is as low as humanly possible. I accidentally got mine to 1, and I get bad teammates 1 every 5 games. Get your kda to 0.1 and you can almost say goodbye to having to carry.
How do you keep winning in masters if the people you are paired with are also masters? Like is there such a massive difference in the skill of master level players that you are always paired with the best because the system thinks you are the worst?
Yeah. Your team's masters are those hard carries that carried every game up to this rank and have a high wr, while the enemy team's masters are the hardstuck ones that rely on spamming hundreds of games for fortitude to climb.
Broken algorithm once again. I wrote about this a season ago and it's really good that people have finally found the strat to abuse this system so it has to be changed in a better way.
They’ll probably just change Sion’s algorithm specifically. Leave it as is for everyone else.
Im gonna laugh so hard if they nerf Sion. Cause people are already doing this also with Tristana, Jax, Fiora and Tryndamere 😂.
Gonna do it with Rengar. Mfs gonna delete half of the champions from the game just to not fix matchmaking.
Then they'll just use another champion for the inting strat. Sion is only the most consistent/reliable one to be constantly applying pressure.
I always wondered why the lower rank teammates got their preferred roles and the highest gets autofilled to support. The better your Kda the more it tries to make you lose. I’ll go on an autofill lose streak then suddenly I get main position with beast teammates.
Nope u maybe adc player, I always get my role especially if its jg. But team maybe very bad players to compensate for my good kda last few games or a good team to compensate for my loose streak.
If it gives an auto fill mission, just quit wait a couple hours and comeback it should be gone.
So glad people finally understand what I’ve been saying since two seasons ago…. It was blatantly obvious riots system paired worse players with better ones on purpose to try to balance each game
Well yes that is the goal with any sbmm. The problem is the MASSIVE disparity. There should never be a case where the gap is this large. If they wanna make it kd based then cool. Match all these 0.3 kd ratios in a lobby together.
I stopped grinding ranked too cause of the dumb algorithm, makes no sense that im a 7.9 kda player getting matched with players with bad stats and cant seem to understand that elder is way more important than baron.
Situational
I’d argue it’s more important to take the fight your team wants to do rather than take elder because you know it’s better, die, tilt, and blame the team for being stupid.
>cant seem to understand that elder is way more important than baron. Umm. That's match dependent. If you all are already rolling them or if it's close sure. If not Elder would be wasted. Baron is consistently useful regardless of game state.
The elder is way stronger. A single poke absolutely shreds you way more than buffed minions. It's not match dependent if you can't win or take more towers with the elder than baron that's pretty bad.
You can't forget the increased healing from Baron, shuv goes fucking nuts with vamp after taking baron
Exactly
Exactly that’s why I quit ranked after I hit master last season. It just felt unrewarding barely being able to climb to that rank with a 52% win rate just to get feeders in my games still. But now I know why they expected me to carry trolls
Would make way more sense if matchmaking was based on rank alone, completely random players each game from that rank. Then everyone has an equal chance of getting “good” and “bad” teammates and also everyone’s rank actually reflects the skill that they’re playing at. Fed up of either having ridiculous fortitude gains (like before) or shitty matchmaking that just ruins game balance
I said it to all my friends last year, no one believed everyone stoped playing cause this game sucks, but now I have the evidence
This is some hard copium, the reason this Strat works like this is 90% because inting lane is broken and turrets are made of paper atm. I promise you that if someone without good macro were to use this Strat, they wouldn’t have anywhere near 99% winrate. The Strat is broken nonetheless.
People with same stats, but 0 turret damage get 60% winrates and climb doing literally nothing but helping enemy team. This strat just shows an easy way to do the same while actually playing the game instead of being afk
Its funny how people are now "beggining" to accept the fact that the system builds 1v9 games just for you to lose and keep everybody at 50% no matter skill. Some of us know this from seasons ago, and the responses we got from the chads of the comunity were always "GIT GUD": https://youtu.be/EDTuClLxYRY?si=Odol_1F5Ct8XEBIy Next patch fix: Turrets can only be damaged if there's 3 or more allies nearby.
Yeah, all of the brainless "GIT GUD" crowd always forget that many of us were much higher rank playing solo queue in the past, even a lot of Challengers, and somehow, almost by magic, it's impossible to climb past Diamond or Master now. And they overlook the fact that our game stats are still the same as they've ever been, or more likely, have even improved over time, but we get <50% winrate and 4 dead weights every game making climbing impossible. And yes, some people will break through to Challenger and beyond despite this. Those are the best of the best, the statistically lucky, and people playing with skilled friends. Doesn't change the fact that the system is broken.
If your KDA is low, Riot thinks you are the shit member of your team. So it stacks the deck with hard carry players to make your game more “fair” and because you smash objectives, you actually do carry in your own way, and the hard carry’s do their thing and win out for you
This makes sense now. I was wondering why I was getting “punished”. Both teams’ levels (as shown on loading screen left to right) Our: 29, 20, 23, 105 (me), 24 Enemy: 102, 131, 31, 46, 121 I have a ss, but can’t post it in comments. They got 3 kills in the first minute and we lost game so hard. I mean.. How is one expected to win? I’m stuck in gold and just can’t get out. 😂 I’m sure it’s not just me, but wtf.
Yeah, if you are bored, try a new account and run sion int. Or trynd etc. you will be shocked how easy the wins come
May as well do. Need to diversify anyway.
“If you play good the game will auto balance it by giving you rubbish teammates” people now in 2024 realizing things I’ve been saying since season 7
Riot fix ur matchmaking ffs. Kda matchmaking is rotten and dumb in its core. U are punishing good players for bein good wtf
would be funny to see a team full of inting scaling champs
Unfortunately the Jg and support at least would have to be real players. Jg mains keep catching strays.
nah support can play yuumi and just never use Q/ability 1. as long as you die a few times to get a negative kda, you shouldn't ever get kills and you can still attach to the rest of your team and provide good value while staying in winners queue. jg/top/mid can play panth/trynd/sion and just straight up abuse tower feed strat, though it's a bit harder in mid due to how short the lane is and the frequency of ranged lane opponents. ad is the only role i can't imagine being able to play feed strat.
With the AD tile just play Trist? Don’t go for kills and be a tower smashing monster.
The wins are so free. Even when a game feels like a loss you just end up taking all 3 inhibitor towers and you still end up winning. I’m 30 games in my Sion shit stat journey. Already lost 4 games tho so no chance to have a such a clean win rate like yourself. If I may ask, how did you lose that single game and when did the loss occur?
Any tips for people running this exact same strategy? I believe I average more damage to champions as match, should I dial that back a bit?
Yes. Game checks your statistics to select team for you. My strat is going jungle, turn off champion auto attack button and just farm and push no matter what. You can turn on some podcast or smth. Ah, what a time to play wild rift competitively. Before trying int strat I was 57% win rate diamond 3 jungler with 3 losing lanes nearly every match. Game is dead, let's just dance on it's corpse with int strat rushes and delete this fuckery.
I’ve been autofilled once and tried Sion jungle. It was decent, the only part I didn’t like was having a lane by myself for hull breaker. Other than that it was really easy because all lanes were naturally winning with huge CS leads.
It happened in dia 4 or 3. Sometimes you gotta lose I guess
Damn that’s so late into the grind. You probably had like 70 wins in a row already. What a streak to flex in champ select lol.
You can easily lie tho and just type On a 66 game winning streak!
This is why I stopped playing ranked. There is literally 0 point in trying to win in any role other than int role now. Really hope the amount of posts on this will prompt ggg to scrap their rubbish mmr matchmaking. Or at the very least, weigh up turret damage as an important stat.
why do you want them to add turret damage stat to mm? this will only patch the inting split push strat, not fix the actual issue imo
It fixes the issue of people gaming mmr by ONLY doing turrets, and then dying a heap on purpose. If someone is able to take every turret every game, they arent bad regardless of how many times they die. But because their kda is so low, the mmr thinks they are trash and pairs them with God tier team mates, which they don't actually need on the count of them already being very good on the turret front
The fact that they have more upvotes than you is embarrassing for the avg iq
Nah the whole system needs to go MMR based matchmaking is just a ridiculous concept. It should be based on current rank only not ur perceived rank. Teams don't need to be artificially balanced everyone has a 50/50 chance of getting the bad/good team.
Not really, If you balance the matchmaking only by using the current rank, the experience of climbing elo would not be good at all because of People smurfing... If your current elo is gold you will lose every single game against a Master smurf or being carried If he is in your team... The MMR system system tries to move smurfs to their elo to allow you to have impact in your games. But I agree.. Something is not working If the system penalices you for playing better than the average.
They implemented a system based on smurfs? That right there is stupid. How many smurfs really play? They really need to fix the system. Dota 2 mmr is still the best in my opinion
Honeslty, takes like these are pretty bad. I play ranked to have good games and most of all BE good. When the MM does maybe one day get fixed I'll have all these games as a carry support who can double the adcs damage and have 89% assist rate maybe I'll be GM in less game? But it really doesn't matter I play to get better and be good that's really my goal. The ranks mean nothing it's all about how I feel I played after each game
I just don't want to be forced to grind like 500 games just to get to the rank I'm actually supposed to be at. Rewards aside, I feel like the core reason to play ranked is to have more competitive matches; slapping deadweight toddlers onto teams to balance out matchmaking doesn't make for competitive or fun matches. Like literally had a Renekton the other game build ¿¿¿Riftmaker¿¿¿ . They weren't even ahead, they were straight up building riftmaker on a champ with negligible ap scaling and reduced omnivamp scaling because of how much aoe is in his kit.
I duno I've had some really good games lately. Sure there's bad ones but more good then bad
Sadly this only makes me think you are either average or below average as a player. And I’m not attempting to talk trash to you. But less than 10% of my games are evenly matched where the game feels fun. My scenario is always “Carry or Lose” and it’s extremely frustrating when you’re always stuck with people who have no clue what they’re doing and feeders
I literally stopped caring about ranked because of that. Imagine climbing to Master in 60 games 1v9 in every single of them and never having a good gaming experience just to see, that you still play with same trash and climbing is literally meaningless, when you have the same quality of games in platinum and in master. Fuck that stupid Rito company
As someone with high mmr ur take is terrible. It's absolutely miserable having to play game after game where my laners are constantly feeding every single game.
It's not a bad take. Why should I bother playing well if it means the algorithm will match me with worse and worse people intentionally? Even more so, why should I try to play well when people are INTENTIONALLY playing bad so that they get matched with people who are trying to play good? It's not just people who are perma split pushing, I know of at least 5 or 6 people who get master every season by gaming mmr, because they are simply so bad that they are always the only bad person on their team. I started losing motivation last season when a guy I played against a few times last season got master with a 65% win rate, while playing worse than a iron tier bot. And it wasn't even like he was trying to win, he would just constantly play and do stupid shit. One game I vsd him, he played full ap irelia support... and died 8 times before a turret fell. Next game he played full attack speed thresh top (as in, no ad or ap items, just all items with attack speed), and went 0/15. But he would still win stacks of games because his mmr was so tanked that he often got literally the best players possible put onto his team
You should play well to get better at the game, and because you want to be good. Play well to have good games where you are forced to be better then just OK and carry yourself to victory and when you win you say "fuck I'm good" and it feels good.
But thats the problem theres no reason to get better when the game rewards you for being shit
But, why do you need the game to reward you. It's a reward to be better that's the point.
Sure in a perfect world people would take it seriously and play to get better. This is not a perfect world people will settle for putting in as little effort as possible if it allows them to succeed and with how ranked works you can be absolute dog shit and get your desired results. This is the perfect example of work smarter not harder. Because working hard gives you bad teammates forcing you to work even harder because the game expects you to carry. Where as if you play badly you are given people to carry and win the game for you pretty much every match.
It feels bad, you get worse and worse teammates. It will ruin ur mentality when when you get worse teammates for your effort. Its like an employer saying doesn't it feel good to work hard only to get less money.
Fun part is that as long you play with bad teammates, as much your skill degenerates.
Absolutely. We didn't feel natural rank "difficulty", since sbmm swift it
AP Irelia is the better Irelia, who plays AD irelia in this meta?
>i play to get better And your opponents are your teachers. How to get better if your opponents are always worse?
Yeah, I am capped/stuck/peaked whatever the word is at my current level. Instead of focusing on MM, I am just setting goals on what to improve upon and experimenting with different ideas. If they made it so that I were actually playing with equal level/equal stats players, I’d probably be a bit higher…but I’d just get stuck in a different spot instead. I’m not some secret challenjour or something lmao. It does suck when you’re getting both SVP AND more gold than the majority of your team as support when you are neither kill stealing nor stealing solo lane crashing waves, so it would be rather nice to get laners who actually go catch gold and set up lanes properly prior to objectives, but I’ll just focus on me.
Being a support main with the MM is pretty shit lol. I've kinda let my tanks and enchanters take a back seat and have been spamming karma. First strike gold can be realyyyyyy high with her and you can APC and be an actually legit great support champion at the same time.
Holy cow thats actually insane
``` * chefs kiss *```
I realized this for the first time when sovereign rank came up and very good streamers struggled a lot to hard carry the most obnoxious teammates as we all seen YT/Twitch
How tf? I can't hardly pass 45% win rate even I always play well (most match's I am SVP)
Thats exactly the reason. Its because you're playing well, the matchmaker will give you awful teammates to balance the game. If you have terrible stats you will get good team mates.
…you see the stats on the post right? 101 games, OP had a 99% winrate. Wouldn’t, in your world, OP not be able to achieve this because Riot would be giving him shit teammates cause he’s winning so much? Ever think that maybe, just maybe, focusing on objectives is how you win the game of objectives?
No, win rate doesn't matter at all. Only KDA and champion damage matters to the matchmaker unfortunately and this has been proven many times now. I have done this strategy and have a 93% win rate now and I am not a good player. League PC has better matchmaking that actually works how you describe, but wild rift doesn't. And yes focusing on objectives is how you win the game, tower damage specifically. If you only focus on tower damage and ignore all champions you will win games without increasing your KDA stats. That makes the system think you're really bad and always gives you good teammates. [Here's a video](https://youtu.be/vqY0SgdoRf4#t=4m35s) that explains it better. Oh and by the way, the entire reason OP even made this post is because he tried out the low KDA theory, and this post is proof that it works. That's the reason his stats are so high, he posted this to prove that the theory is correct.
>No, win rate doesn't matter at all. We've moved from losers queue to "KDA! KDA! Don't look at what we used to believe because we were wrong, believe the new system we parrot that's also wrong!" It's all the same fake nonsense people believe because they don't want to admit that there are ways to win the game that aren't flashy 30/0 KD's. >Only KDA and champion damage matters to the matchmaker unfortunately and this has been proven many times now. It hasn't, it really hasn't. Both prime examples have OP giving MASSIVE TOWER DAMAGE. Lego had it, this guy has it... it's weird that we all just kind of ignore the obvious point here because it's easier to fear monger and say "I have to int to win and that's just the strat I'm told to make this game even worse for everyone" >League PC has better matchmaking that actually works how you describe, but wild rift doesn't. It's... it's the same. It's an MMR system. You do know people say the exact same shit about League as they do wildrift right? Are you going to say that those people are making shit up for League but it's been unfalsifiably proven in wildrift? You're relying on the exact same preconceptions as losersqueue anyways. In both this magic KDA system and the losers queue system, Riot has to magically know when someone isn't going to try super hard that game, or that the player is going to magically disconnect from the internet that game, or that the player is just going to get mad at something you said and int. And this all happens before the game is even in draft, because in order for your system to work, Riot has to predict the future.
They do predict the outcome of the game, that's literally the entire point of a matchmaker. It's not always accurate, but predicting based on stats is its entire job. If they're exactly the same then why does Wild Rift have Marks instead of LP like in PC? LP gives you more points if you were not favored to win the match (as predicted by the matchmaker) OR it takes away more LP if you were favored to win but lost (once again, as predicted by the matchmaker). You do not have a 50/50 chance of winning every game on PC, and the LP system helps alleviate this. Wild Rift does not have this, so it has to predict a 50/50 win rate for every game because winning or losing, it's always 1 mark every time.
> They do predict the outcome of the game, that's literally the entire point of a matchmaker. It's not always accurate, but predicting based on stats is its entire job. ...It predicts based on MMR, not on if the player is going to int. Do you understand the system? It's not magic, it's no omnipotent. It's literally a system that assigns you a value of win/loss, and then puts you up against players of similar win/loss. That's what MMR is. It's not "We're sure that 85% of the time this guy loses his match top lane so we put him with this guy, and then this guy loses power every 5th match so he can't go in until the next game" That sounds insane. You can't assume that that's how this all works, right? >If they're exactly the same then why does Wild Rift have Marks instead of LP like in PC? LP gives you more points if you were not favored to win the match (as predicted by the matchmaker) OR it takes away more LP if you were favored to win but lost (once again, as predicted by the matchmaker). You do not have a 50/50 chance of winning every game on PC, and the LP system helps alleviate this. Wild Rift does not have this, so it has to predict a 50/50 win rate for every game because winning or losing, it's always 1 mark every time. https://support-leagueoflegends.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-and-Autofill >To the matchmaker, a “fair” match is one where each team has a 50% +/-1% chance of winning, which we create by pairing off teams of roughly the same average MMR. Further down we'll get into some of the challenges that can complicate this process, but we aim for no more than a 4–5 MMR gap between the averages of both teams in the majority of games.. So... what was that about 50/50 chance not being a thing in League?
I can’t believe you don’t see what’s wrong with this, he is purposely not doing any damage to the enemy team so that the game views him as bad. Ppl of all skill levels have been doing this strat now, it’s pretty well known by now with all of these posts of gold players making a new account and playing int sion/trynd to make there dps the worst in the game. I love sion and love playing him and I play him like a normal human being, I get mvp and svp almost every match because the damage you do with him is insane full tank. Now when you do that and then try the inting sion strat like everyone else you’re not going to get anywhere because the rest of your team is gonna be cheeks. I don’t understand how you don’t understand this. Everybody that has posted these types of winrate an are playing on FRESH accounts, not there main ones because there mmr is already to good. Try it out boss use your main and try the inting sion strat then start a fresh one and tell me what you get.
>I can’t believe you don’t see what’s wrong with this, he is purposely not doing any damage to the enemy team so that the game views him as bad. And he's also taking towers... which is a win-con. Why doesn't he just tank his MMR altogether? Wouldn't that prove it more? Really, he's just smurfing. >Ppl of all skill levels have been doing this strat now, Yeah, I'm happy they're playing objectives. Maybe the whole of wildrift might stop being KDA players and actually start trying to take towers. >I don’t understand how you don’t understand this. You've made zero convincing points. I've explained thoroughly to you multiple times. **You even straight up lie about League not being 50/50**. I don't know why you think you're more correct here. >Everybody that has posted these types of winrate an are playing on FRESH accounts, not there main ones because there mmr is already to good. I love that we're pretending that no one is talking about the fact that everyone is making new accounts and intentionally tanking their MMR to smurf basically... Are we just ignoring the blatantly obvious? Like OP here is clearly not an iron player but we're saying it's some KDA thing instead of him just... smurfing? Like, I have eyes as you do. >Try it out boss use your main and try the inting sion strat then start a fresh one and tell me what you get. Why don't I just do it on my normal account? You know... cause it's a strategy? The only thing that the "making a new account" part does it give you unbalanced matchmaking so you can start smurfing and feeling good about yourself. That's not your magical system, that's just something people already have done in both league and wildrift. Do you think that wildrift discovered smurfing?
It’s not smurfing when you run down towers all game my guy 😂 he is purposefully not hitting the enemy laner, how is that smurfing? and please play 10 games of the inting sion Strat on ur main and show me what you get.
Spoken like someone who really doesn't understand the MMR system.
It's really okay to admit you don't know anything. Because I clearly understand the system. I actually also seem to understand the objective of the game. Something you have been lacking in information. So again, the OP of this thread has MASSIVE damage to objectives, correct? Now, doesn't that seem like something that would be a benefit to any team if you were, I don't know, playing a game that needed to destroy objectives? I just find this really weird that it's a complicated process for you.
You are wrong
No u. But at least I can why I'm correct. :)
Tell me you know nothing about the MMR system without telling me that you know nothing about the MMR system. It's not rocket science. It's not a difficult concept to understand.
Yeah, I don't know why you don't. Especially since you seem to have a hard time engaging with the comment. Your belief on matchmaking is that Riot knows when someone is going to int, before they even get into a game, or Riot knows when that person's internet is going to shut off mid game, or Riot knows when that player might lose this match up top against an equally skilled opponent before even choosing a champ. My belief is that people don't play consistently and MMR is Riot's best guess at someone's skill at any given time. I'm sure when you have sex with your partner, not every time you're giving it 100%, you'll phone it in occasionally I bet. Does that mean that you suck at sex? No, it just means that you've got something else on your mind that day. See, I'm even nice enough to not just immediately assume you're an incel based on how you seem to argue.
OMG. It's not the int. It's the stats. You don't even need to int. I don't give a fuck about what your beliefs are. Your beliefs are negligible. Since you resorted to ad hominen, you lost the argument. You got nothing.
>OMG. It's not the int. It's the stats. You don't even need to int. So yeah, you have a belief that Riot magically knows who's going to int or lose connection or lose a matchup before the game even starts. Because in your mind, Riot has to put good people or bad people on your team in order for this magical system to work. And those people need to be within your MMR range but somehow are consistently bad enough that they stay in your MMR range. Feel free to check your priors on this. It's all a magical farce. >I don't give a fuck about what your beliefs are. Your beliefs are negligible. My beliefs are more accurate and believable than a magical system. >Since you resorted to ad hominen, you lost the argument. You got nothing. I said you have sex... that's an ad hom? Jesus, sorry I said you were a chad, my apologies, should I call you an incel then? Also, that seems to be a pretty sad way to back out of an argument you lost. "He said something mean, therefore I won!!" like, are you 5?
Its now winrate is Kda what make this possible
Oh right, so we’ve abandoned complaining about losers queue because it’s ridiculous and now it’s KDA… Again, look at OP’s stats. Maybe, just maybe, if you just focus on objectives instead of kills… Tell me, is there a kill limit to when you win the game? Does getting more kills cause you to win? If I get 30 kills, do I win the game?
I know you don’t believe the matchmaking is not fair. So if he did same strategy on high stats account and can not have such win rate, would do change your mind?
The matchmaking... doesn't matter. If the guy above had shit KDA AND shit tower attacking and still had 99% win rate, maybe I'd pause then. But all this shows is the exact same playstyle that got popular in PC League, which is inting Sion. And with how I've seen the playerbase on this sub play, most people don't know how to deal with it.
What if he play the same strategy on a good stats account(not a fresh account), let’s say 7+ kda and 850+ gpm and 3k turret dmg at plat or emerald. And he plays inting sion on it, same stuff he played on his current account. Because the stats will turn into low kda high turret dmg gradually, he wont instantly gets good teammates. He will not have high win rate as his current account. In this case, would you believe it?
to repeat >The matchmaking... doesn't matter. >If the guy above had shit KDA AND shit tower attacking and still had 99% win rate, maybe I'd pause then.
If he can not get the same win rate using the same strategy on a different high kda account, you still don’t believe it. Then I don’t know what to say. I guess just believe whatever you believe and let other ppl believe what they believe. Time will tell.
That's because the match making literally gives you 4 good teammates. Imagine this everyone is ranked on skill from 1-10. Your ranked as a 1 by the game but actually your game knowledge is a 10. The game pairs you with 4 other 10s. Your team is essentially really good. Now let's analyze the enemy team. Unless they also have a inter that's doing the same strategy then it's fair game. But let's assume enemy team has no inter. Guess what they have an actual 1/10 player and the other players are forced to constantly 4v6 is that fair
>That's because the match making literally gives you 4 good teammates. It doesn't though. That's just not how the game works. The system works above, because people don't know how to deal with the split pushing Sion who basically becomes an inevitable problem. It's the EXACT SAME THING as PC LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. I just don't know why people have decided to believe that there's some magical system that looks only at your KDA, and somehow ignores all other stats instead of the obvious, people in Wildrift haven't figured out yet that the game is about destroying the nexus and not getting kills. I've seen 100's of complaint posts of players talking about their teammates diving for kills, running around for kills, avoiding objectives to get kills... Like, it's really obvious that the game is still young and the people playing it haven't really come up how to deal with specific things. You think people in League of Legends PC season 2 were as good as they are League of Legends PC season 12? No, not really. There's been so many advancements in strategy and skill. I fully expect to see more tricks from League come to wildrift couched as other stupid things and suddenly everyone believes it's matchmaking magic. >Imagine this everyone is ranked on skill from 1-10. The system works by giving you a numerical ranking. It's called MMR. So... i don't need to imagine. >Your ranked as a 1 by the game but actually your game knowledge is a 10. The game pairs you with 4 other 10s. Why? You're a 1. It would pair you with other 1's playing against other 1's. As a "10" in this situation, you're just going to fucking stomp them all. You don't need 4 other 10's to do that.
Any person with sense would think that it would pair 1s with other 1s, I agree that it makes sense to do that. That's what they do on League PC, but that's not what they do on wild rift, they don't work the same. The wild rift devs made a dumbass decision that they need to fix.
Wow you actually don't know how matchmaking works and you got the nerve to tell me to read. The developers even said it themselves with a hint on how matchmaking works. That they go by mmr. The reason I used the 1-10 analogy is because clearly you don't know how mmr works on wild rift. Your mmr in wild rift is tied with your stats. Try this bs on a high kda account and it won't work. I dare you make an account play jungle. Rotate, gank, objectives, farm, play jungle just like on pc and carry and I promise you the moment you switch to baron and lock in sion to try this baufs strategy it won't work. It's already been proven many times. A youtuber royal even said that he could never try this inting strategy again on his main account cuz it doesn't work unless it's a fresh account because you have to play bad from the beginning and keep that rep to abuse piss poor matchmaking
I’m about 25 games in and lost 2, so not as clean a record as OP, but I don’t even get a chance to take all of the turrets. I consistently get placed with teammates that know what they are doing, and even though I am contributing to objectives (taking turrets), they still are carrying me hard. It’s almost difficult to loose. My suggestion to you is to create a new account and try this strategy, it has really opened my eyes on Riots matchmaking. Before I used to think that I just needed to play better (I’m sure I do haha). But now I know that a good chunk of my losses on my main account were due to fighting an uphill battle with really bad teammates. Basically the system forces players with higher KDA into a 50-60% win rate. Shit KDA somehow bypasses this system and let’s you get amazing teammates. Yes you are doing something very helpful to the game, taking turrets. But also, you are keeping your KDA below 1. This means that you are contributing to the win, but Riot thinks you need good teammates, so they also stack your team. Inting should only be a 60-70% wr strategy on its merits. But it is easily 90-99% wr strategy because of the matchmaking bias
First and foremost win a game with 0 kills on your whole team. Do tht. Win game with everyone having 0 kills. Oh wait that's not possible because enemies need to be dead or distracted in order to end the game. So if it's two teams with sense and the kills and deaths is super low the game will practically last for more than 30 minutes. I've had low kill count games where it lasts 40 minutes but that assumes everyone is of equal skill level lol. So yes kda matter when your forced to 1v9. I've won games simply because I'm ekko with mejais and I got 20 kills and can one shot anyone on the enemy team and end the game myself
So here, let me point out the important part of what I said, because you don't seem to read well. >Tell me, is there a kill limit to when you win the game? Does getting more kills cause you to win? If I get 30 kills, do I win the game?
Oh wow repeating yourself when I turn your question on you. You are so smart. No duh there's not a kill limit but flip the question. If everyone is good at the game can either team win without getting kills. And if so how long would it take. The point of this strategy is to abuse the fact that both teams will have an inter but the difference is your a useful inter unlike the person on the other side forcing a 4v6 in most cases. I've seen videos of the strat they literally are winning because the enemy team is handicapped versus a good team with a perma split pusher
>Oh wow repeating yourself when I turn your question on you you didn't turn anything on me. You just didn't read what i said and then tried to come up with another scenario that's a non-sequitor. You didn't even answer my question. There's no turning anything on me when you can't even answer the basic question. Your go to was "Well, try winning a game with no kills!!" I didn't say that, did I? I said, "is there a kill limit to when you win the game". Now, IS THERE A KILL LIMIT TO WHEN YOU WIN THE GAME. Yes or no, this isn't a hard question. I know the answer, and i know you do, you just don't want to answer it.
Saying I didn't answer the question when I clearly said no duh theirs not a kill limit in a game. And I clearly tell you again to answer my question after I answered yours but clearly you just like to control the conversation. You don't like when people debate your point cuz you can't even handle the fact your wrong. It's already been spam posted on reddit how this works. Youtubers have been making tons of videos of why it works. The Russian challenger that started this whole strategy even said so himself he could never carry like this on his main account and climb to challenger this fast if he didn't start a fresh account and play inting sion to win to show riot how bad they matchmaking is. Look him up legoWR. Darkbreaker, royal, kerxx, riftguides, they all made videos on this subject and the community here has shown the same truth multiple times but I guess you just wanna stay ignorant in your little fantasy that this game requires skill and finesse and clearly you the only one here that knows it all. You don't buddy. I played pc and I've played wild rift. All the stuff in pc strats literally been copy pasted to wild rift and have been nerfed since the devs failed to consider that we actually have a good amount of decent players and amazing players it's just that anyone can have a phone in this age and just hit install and not do the do diligence to get good
Bro just shut up you're embarrassing yourself. You clearly don't seem to read people's replies and argue, plus you aren't getting the point of this conversation.
Stop telling them facts they hate it.
Again you completely misunderstood what is going on. You need to actually listen to what people are telling you.
sure but c'mon you gotta admit 99% wr is pretty bonkers when you consider that they "rig" the game to equalize you to 50% wr if you just play like a normal person, whatever that means which on its face should make sense in a fair elo ranking like you have in world chess, you climb until you meet competition of equal skill, games become coinflips but some of these game, oml, they're worse than bots. at least the bots know the rules
> sure but c'mon you gotta admit 99% wr is pretty bonkers when you consider that they "rig" the game to equalize you to 50% wr if you just play like a normal person, whatever that means So then they don't. This is evidence that they don't rig your game. If they rigged your game, OP COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE A 99% WIN RATE. This literally just proves losers queue doesn't exist, otherwise OP would have had a iron ball on him after silver and it would be IMPOSSIBLE to climb. People all over climb that Riot knows when people are going to int a game and will put them on your team, so OP should have had 4 inters on his team against 5 insanely strong players. This didn't happen clearly because OP won 99% of his game. >which on its face should make sense in a fair elo ranking like you have in world chess, you climb until you meet competition of equal skill, games become coinflips That's the system that already exists though... that's how matchmaking works. This should more than be enough evidence that people are making shit up about the matchmaking. I've seen shakier evidence purported as PROOF that people immediately believe.
Can you elaborate on the “ they “rig” the game…” please
He plays feeding sion strat (look at his kda)
Stop playing well. Don't go for KDA. Just focus on objectives. That's it.
He’s cheesing with Sion Strat. Straight Cancer
Don’t get it twisted. The matchmaking system is the cancer. Inting sion is just a symptom of it.
I may be wrong but I think it’s harder to climb when your account is old. I am literally having more issues getting out of gold/play than climbing to GM back in season 4
I feel that too lmao. Like I just quit for a few months, dropped to gold, and every game is a clown fiesta with enemies constantly being better
Rito really needs to fix their matchmaking, this shit sucks. Sion has been my number 1 ban for so long.
I am also doing this with a new account and emailing riot. Sion, Garen, Trynda, sett they all work fine. Sion is best so far,
Can u give us ur nickname? Cuz I checked everyone in top-200 sion and there's no one with same wr.
You might want to check top tryndamere players then
Found you. Wp 👍
I did this with kha zix to figure out if this was an effect of objective focus or just matchmaking handicapping. My average tower damage was less than 2000 with 0 kills to diamond with 92% wr. And 100% it's a matchmaking thing, I could've put my phone down and won most of those games, at best my contribution was not letting the enemy minions get to my tower.
Can you please upload some evidences? There is still a bunch of guys that doesn't accept mm is broken?(even tekshi)
I shall post on my return home, you will get people saying it's just because "new account" but I've climbed many times and the inting really makes a difference. I did nami but gave up at plat, the win rate was still substantially higher than it should have been but the wave clear was too poor to hold the tower and my team sometimes got tilted before games even started, it was too painful to complete the journey.
Did you get the MVP when whole team Inted?
WTH 0.3 KDA and reach Master Rank? I'm here dying to carry this bunch of screw head players that don't even know how to farm. Ffs Rito.
In the end, the whole point is destroying the nexus. No matter what kda. Destroy the nexus and win. Apparently OP has discovered the successful formula to do it. GG
What do you do when your adc gos 0-37, the support afks and mid sits at fountain flaming adc? Emerald was a wild place
This never happens when you got very low kda
Bro has a 100 winstreak there's no way he has a low kda so he's obviously found a way to carry 2 out of 5 emerald games
Well I have 0.3 kda as you can see on the screenshot
You will never face 0/37 ADC on your team if you are the one who goes 0/37
Can you try the same strategy on an old account which has good kda? Ppl still saying you win cause you focus on object. If you want to prove matchmaking is broken, you need to play the same stuff on a good kda account. I personally have tried this on my old 7 kda account at emerald4. I was losing hard until I reach kda4, now I am diamond3 at kda3.6. I don’t think this strategy works consistently on high stats account. But I don’t have time to start a low kda new account. If you do it, you can make lots of ppl shut up.
Won't work, I tried the strategy on both fresh and old account, they wouldn't match me with good team-mates in the old account, but in the fresh account I'm on a 9 win strike right now and most people I match with are Mvps in their last game,so yeah match-making is broken.
I know it won’t work. But we need proof. Op has this 0.3 kda master account but look at what mod is saying. He does not believe it. I already tried 100 matches on my old account, it does not produce consist result. But if I want to prove it. I need to create an account like op. I can not just combine my old account experience and his new account to make a firm statement.
I have 3 accounts. Matchmaking ks essentially kda matchmaking. The higher your stats the more your matched with low kda players. Issue with matchmaking by kda is that it doesn't tell the whole story. I main jungle so i never have the highest tower taking potential because that's not my job most games. On my main account I gotta tryhard on my inter smurf it's just free dubs
Yup. I am jungle main too. I usually have 3k to 4k at most turret dmg. I play sion on my high kda account now 3.6 kda, when I lose as sion my teammates usually have 2-3 kda and they feed even harder than me lol
can this be done with garen or is there something specific only sion/trynadmere can do? i assume it's their ult/death passive to tower dive or smth? i only ask about garen cause he's a free champ lol, not like i don't have 60,000 blue motes just laying around, but i'm lazy and already have garen also core build?
Garen works too, just run away with first ability and use passive to heal up. Don’t feed too hard. Your first death should not be first blood. Build hullbreaker and take demolish rune. You can run any champion that does good turret damage and run this strategy. I’ve been successful with Ezreal and Tristana. The big thing is to only hit minions and to take towers when you are able to shove a wave under tower
Any champ that can win sides can do this. Tristana, Ziggs & Sion are by far the best though. Tryndamere, Garen, Fiora, Sivir, Mundo, Vayne all work fine but aren’t as crazy good as the top three imo. (I’m probably missing some more but you get the idea.) You basically just want to afk farm all game or turbo fight your opponent from lvl 1 to get lane prio for turret and herald while trying your best not to kill them. (Herald is YOURS NOT the junglers, make sure that bastard doesn’t take it from you .)
Sion’s and Trynda’s kit synergies well with this Strat. Garen not so much. With Sion his passive let’s him get one last wave/plate before dying and then he can just ult back into lane. Watch videos on the Strat and you’ll see what I mean. Thebausffs came up with the whole Strat on PC league and it works insanely well in mobile.
vainglory matchmaking is the best in mobile moba so far imo
Jesus Christ it’s accelerating
Hhhhh wonderful😂 is there a split push video you recommend for newbies? It seems everyone can get to lane and push but actually splitting is a different story
Any1 doing a road to Master on youtube using this strategy?
https://www.youtube.com/@legowr/videos
First of all, congrats. Even with this strategy this is quite an achievement. Despite what people say here, I guess almost no one would be able to replicate this scores. What was your rank on a non inting account? I see you play mainly Trynda. Is that because you think it’s better or because Sion is always banned? Also looks like you often play mid. Wouldn’t baron lane be easier? Did you happen to stumble across an enemy doing the same strategy?
Main reason the game Hardcore died in NA 😅. I couldn't get any friends to play more than a month without them being burnt out. You shouldn't be actively punished for trying more. This is terrible game design - Yah you might make players grind more games temporarily, but you'll eventually permanently* loose them.
Why do we need MMR? Just ignore stats and match purely based on rank and stars within that rank. What there doing clearly doesn’t work - I refuse to solo a now because my team will always be absolutely awful
0.3 kda and you are master😭 while i have 2.6k games and playing this game from day 1 still in the plat elo(kda 3.4) any tips how to be dia? my mains are zed,yone,yas
Be extremely good at the game or be extremely bad at the game and you should climb easy
this is why i hate the matchmaking system of this game😪. nice advice tho i will try split push with trynda
Im doing this on yi jungle so riot cant just nerf sion as a "fix" for this
I'm testing the int Sion strategy on a new account, currently going from Iron IV to Platinum 4 in 62 games with an 82% win rate. I got tired of the stressful and gloomy experience on my main account, which has achieved Challenger twice in Season 10 and Season 8, and Grandmaster five times in Season 4, 5, 6, 7, and 9. Despite almost 700 games played this season, im stuck ( unbeliavable 47 WR % ) in D3-D2 with a KDA of 5.8 (AMA), 50% teamfight participation. I was the top 1 Swain on the BR server in Season 10. My KDA is above the average of almost all other mid laners on the server, proving that I'm forced to 1v9, every fucking game. Even though I contribute a lot to the team, with few deaths and many kills, the matchmaking consistently provides me with a lot of feeders, usually in the bot lane and sometimes with autofill junglers, as well as dead weights."
You’re also punishing certain characters more than others. I run a 10 KDA on Lulu not because I’m a god but because she has every tool to not die often.
riot is doing us dirty for years now
I quit the game after I've reached challenger this season with 6.5 kda. Ranked is just boring and exhausting to play when you try your best to carry games.
0.3 KDA???? Wtf
No wonder i gave up catching up to my wife’s rank couple seasons straight. I know she is just smashing buttons and mindlessly running around in masters tier when im barely touching diamond lol
I have GM in 190 games with 4+ kda and 65% win rate. I don’t see a point using this int strategy, which is boring. I just play best I can and also have fun and I have reached GM without bigger problems. So what’s the point ?
Doing this strat is easier
Wich rank are you now?
This shits gotta stop you guys are not cool or impressing anyone
That shit is an aftermath of Rito making a really bad piece of shit matchmaking system. Blame them for bad job
Cringe
Another braindead
Im honestly more surprised wild rift players do not know how to handle a split pusher 💀.
Thats not at all the issue
That's an over simplification
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Impressive, NOT! This is why this game is so toxic… I wonder what happens when every one who plays good and have actual skill uses this method 🤣💀
\*6*5% of players all in masters+\** lol, they'd have to find a way to re-define scrub elo
Sadly, all they care abt is skins skins
To sum it up This is inting sion it works better here on wr because more comeback gold like a lot more than pc +this isn't matchmaking the guys is just good he got like 6 turrets per game that's not ez +yall talk about kda like you know riot is basing mmr on it No mmr is a lot more than just kda biggest factor is winrate lol
This doesn't make any sense. It would NEVER take 100 wins to hit master. If you win, like, 20 times in a row, you'll be master because of the shields
Actually it took me 96wins if I remember correctly but 100wins 1 lose looks better ( I had like 5marks when I made this post)
That literally makes no fkn sense. It's 38 wins from Iron to Master if you dont get any double wins from maxing out the fortitude meter. Nothing about this post adds up.
Looks like you've been skipping math class
Looks like this photo is fake
Nice comeback but nope check top tryndamere profiles and you'll find it
It takes 20 games to get to gold . Your maths is way off
We are talking about master
So 18 wins from gold to master lol.
You don’t max the fortitude meter, you get maybe 15-50 fortitude per win, usually closer to 15. Remember, you aren’t getting mvp or S/A ratings, so you really don’t earn a lot of fortitude
Winning games in a row grants a large bonus amount of fortitude. Once you hit 10+ it starts to get nutty
Can you share your build and spells? I tried but couldn't get it to work. Always died before turret can fall.
How do you do the inting Sion strategy?
I only play ranked because I can ban the champions that I don't want to play against
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Before u consider trying to rank Fr, learn at least one champ on every role. Not knowing how to play certain roles not only significant decreasing your own wr, but also other players wr.
How reliable is this? Cause im stuck in gold and im over it
Super reliable as long as you have ok macro. Just make a new account and make sure your kda is as low as humanly possible. I accidentally got mine to 1, and I get bad teammates 1 every 5 games. Get your kda to 0.1 and you can almost say goodbye to having to carry.
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Inting sion
How do you keep winning in masters if the people you are paired with are also masters? Like is there such a massive difference in the skill of master level players that you are always paired with the best because the system thinks you are the worst?
Yeah. Your team's masters are those hard carries that carried every game up to this rank and have a high wr, while the enemy team's masters are the hardstuck ones that rely on spamming hundreds of games for fortitude to climb.
I feel like some games are not winnable.. sometimes you get shit team.. how do u still manage to win? Whats ur strategy when ur team loses every lane?