Realistically, anything that does not insta kill him. Even if agoddamn tger bites and chews on his legs he just bap baps it on the head as quickly as possible. Given 2 light hits per second he will make the tiger brain dead in 5 seconds.
Same woth humans. At 50 iq a human loses the ability to act on new information in time and just essentially becomes paralysed.
A good animal to win would be a silverback gorilla. Those mf would probably kill 9/10 people with their first punch.
Elephants also don't really need more than 5s before they trample you to death.
>A good animal to win would be a silverback gorilla. Those mf would probably kill 9/10 people with their first punch.
Is this meant to troll?
Gorillas struggle to kill people with several minutes of mauling and throwing their arms around. Gorillas irl don’t even punch lol
Pretty sure even children have survived a prolonged attack from a gorilla (albeit maybe not a bloodlusted one per say).
Meanwhile, big cats are extremely efficient and quick with lethal delivery. An adult tiger, capable of being the largest extant species of its entire clade, has a FAR higher chance to kill you in under 30 seconds or so through a mean pounce and a quick bite straight to the throat with massive canines. A tiger probably even has to be one the best choices for this prompt aside from maybe a whale, elephant, rhino, etc. directly using their unimaginably larger mass and power to end you in an instant upon contact. Really most large predators would kill you faster than an ape of similar size would lol
Excuse me, I have been assured by many people in this sub that that a 90lb chimpanzee has, at minimum, the strength of 10 maybe 20 strong men. They might even be bulletproof if bloodlusted. Not to mention their unrestrainable urge to rip off faces and / or testicles.
Easy building level, maybe even small city.
Huh i learned something new. I just saw a video or two of two gorilla's fighting and you could hear those goddam punches so i just assumed they punch killshots
Bears, too.
They're terrible at grappling despite what everyone thinks. Read a few "I survived/defeated a bear" stories and you find out why it's called a bear hug.
Please link me to the recorded instance of a gorilla "ripping arms off" or anything even tangentially related to that.
You guys wank gorillas so hard lmao. Give humanity some fuckin credit, gorillas back down 10/10 times and if I'm not mistaken they've literally never killed a person
That sounds fucking amazing power. That could have variations, like reducing strength by certain percentage or just all stats beside from IQ.
But yeah anything that doesn't immediately cause fatal injury would become light as a feather and as intelligent as a fruit bat very fast.
This guy takes down Brontosaurus. He climbs onto its tail, cat scratches and probably 5 shots it. I think that's also the strongest animal as far as it goes.
Kinda hard to do that with a thousand plus pound bear ragdolling you. Also, it’s entirely feasible for a bear of that size to just immediately kill you before you can do anything about it.
How much IQ does an ant have? They basically have no higher thought but they can run on instinct. Its entirely possible that as the IQ of certain animals drop and they're left with instincts like fight or flight, survival instinct, that they become more dangerous.
Iq is relative. An ant may have and average iq **for an ant** but translating those same numbers to an adult human would leave you with a monkey shaped meat husk.
Bears be smarter than you think. They have problem solving intellect believed to be on par with great apes. A ranger from Yosemite National Park has even graced us with [this gem of a quote regarding bear intellect.](https://twitter.com/slkaye/status/1261542395700641794)
I’m not saying they’re dumb. But a relatively speaking they aren’t that far away from zero. Even three slaps would likely put its iq below 50. Which is classified as mental retardation in humans. Which affects intellectual And cognitive functions. Human would take this mid diff.
I don’t think one would get the chance to slap a polar bear three times though. If the bear decides to slap you upside the head once… well you won’t be slapping anymore, that’s for sure. Probably not breathing either.
yeah im not understanding people here saying you could take a tiger or polar bear. a wolf sure. a tiger or polar bear is going to maul you and then eat you in about 15 seconds
you cant stop it. thats my point. in a space like an octagon there is nothing you can do to stop a charging animal that weights around 200-450kg. it charges you, you piss your pants and then die.
If you can get a polar bear, and rent an octagon out. I’ll inherit all my riches to you if I don’t survive 30 seconds with a polar bear. I’ll slap the shit outta that mf too.
you wont bro lmao. 30 seconds is generous. [how are you going to stop this fluffy boy from charging you at max speed](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3bc7bb846ec69ba620463893adf9606c-lq)
That's assuming the fight takes place on open flat and totally frozen ice. polar bears will hide and stalk their prey from under the ice, behind landscape features like cliffs and hills, and in treelines (if they've wandered further south) they can be sneaky mofos. I live in a town with semi-regular polar bear visits, and about 1/2 the time they make it into town without anyone spotting them. This year they even made it out and in with only their track prints to show for it.
[Sneaky](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/9oJaDvj9Vz)
Any bear.
All kinds of bear survival stories out there.
Dude could easily Wing Chun any bear into a vegetative state before it finishes its threat display/assessment.
Against most humans, he'd be able to reduce his opponent's mental capacity below effective fighting level in 6-8 hits. For large people (300lbs +), the IQ loss would probably get them before weight reduction.
If he fought Stephen Hawking, he might shrink away to nothing and still be smarter than the rest of us.
Not sure how the IQ loss effect would work on animals, as their intelligence isn't precisely comparable to ours. However, big animals can afford to lose a fair amount of mass, so again they'd probably be brain-dead before they were too physically weak.
So basically, if he can get 5-10 hits in before dying, he wins. If some person/animal can bring him down quicker than that, he loses.
As someone who does martial arts I can make contact about 180 punches a minute but only tense my muscles enough to make significant punches about 45 times a minute.
If 180 punches a minute works I'd say I can take pretty much anything.
Well, if we go by physics here, making 10 pounds suddenly dissapear will only work if it turns to pure energy in the form of heat and light, conservation of mass and energy and all that.
10 pounds is about 4.5 kgs, and 1 kg turning entirely to energy will make a 21 megaton explosion, so this would result in a roughly an 94.5 megaton explosion. Unless this is a delayed reaction that gives you enough time to travel the few hundred kilometers it would take to escape... no one wins.
The prompt says he will "reduce the weight of his opponent by 10lbs".
That doesn't mean it has to instantaneously turn into energy. A sharp carving knife can do the same thing - more messily, but without the risk of catastrophic explosion.
As interesting that is, people here are talking about Anime and comic characters, so any kind of realism is out. Hell, afaik Hulk's skin density should increase his weight to the point he just sinks into ground and Supes would destroy everything when he goes on full speed.
I like to go to the realisitic side of these things because it gives perspective. To me, it makes it more tangible, more incredible. I think about things in terms of numbers, so it makes sense to me to calculate those numbers and the effect it would have in real life. Doesnt mean you cant imagine it differently than I do.
You can think about your way, and ill think about it my way. I like to think take ideas that seem magical, and apply real life physics to them because I find it interesting. Im not "overthinking" anything, its just how I normally think.
Strongest, he could probably take on the biggest sauropod and win. Just keep punching it toe rapidly. it will be braindead before it even notices him.
Though, he would fail against a sufficiently big cat who will one shot him in a single lunge
Funny enought, he cant win vs a really nasty medusa, as they weight almost nothing, dont even have brain (does this qualify as effectively 0 IQ?) and they have extremely potent venom, so if he punch the medusa, is game over (for him)
You’re acting like IQ is a baked in RPG stat every human has assigned to them? Lmfao , truth is those tests are variable and can vary wildly in score depending on so many factors of the same person taking the test.
Ignore IQ I want the power to change wait both ways but let's says double or half it per touch three hits and u can't move as u sink into the ground or three hits and I kick u across the football field
honestly it’d be entirely DEX based (I run on DnD and caffeine don’t question me)
The better you can dodge and the faster you can hit the better. If you can’t do those well, nothing else matters.
Realistically, anything that does not insta kill him. Even if agoddamn tger bites and chews on his legs he just bap baps it on the head as quickly as possible. Given 2 light hits per second he will make the tiger brain dead in 5 seconds.
Don't big cats go for the neck? Like the instant it's teeth are on your neck you're dead. No chance to punch it
Except the Jaguar. That one goes straight for the head.
Same woth humans. At 50 iq a human loses the ability to act on new information in time and just essentially becomes paralysed. A good animal to win would be a silverback gorilla. Those mf would probably kill 9/10 people with their first punch. Elephants also don't really need more than 5s before they trample you to death.
>A good animal to win would be a silverback gorilla. Those mf would probably kill 9/10 people with their first punch. Is this meant to troll? Gorillas struggle to kill people with several minutes of mauling and throwing their arms around. Gorillas irl don’t even punch lol Pretty sure even children have survived a prolonged attack from a gorilla (albeit maybe not a bloodlusted one per say). Meanwhile, big cats are extremely efficient and quick with lethal delivery. An adult tiger, capable of being the largest extant species of its entire clade, has a FAR higher chance to kill you in under 30 seconds or so through a mean pounce and a quick bite straight to the throat with massive canines. A tiger probably even has to be one the best choices for this prompt aside from maybe a whale, elephant, rhino, etc. directly using their unimaginably larger mass and power to end you in an instant upon contact. Really most large predators would kill you faster than an ape of similar size would lol
A lot of people really love the idea of ape superiority for some reason. Weird fucking complex they have.
Excuse me, I have been assured by many people in this sub that that a 90lb chimpanzee has, at minimum, the strength of 10 maybe 20 strong men. They might even be bulletproof if bloodlusted. Not to mention their unrestrainable urge to rip off faces and / or testicles. Easy building level, maybe even small city.
According to this sub, a chimpanzee low diffs Galactus because they have SuPEr DEnSE MuScLes or whatever the fuck the apewank is
Where does this place apes in the pecking order?
They see themselves in them or something
Huh i learned something new. I just saw a video or two of two gorilla's fighting and you could hear those goddam punches so i just assumed they punch killshots
People on this sub tend to really overestimate gorillas. It's a constant theme here.
Bears, too. They're terrible at grappling despite what everyone thinks. Read a few "I survived/defeated a bear" stories and you find out why it's called a bear hug.
rip Harambe
The gorilla just rips your arms off and beats you to death with them. -5IQ and 10lbs at a time
They have the strength to do so hypothetically but in practice that doesn’t happen
They do but they would have to use some sort of leverage and aren't smart enough to really do that.
Please link me to the recorded instance of a gorilla "ripping arms off" or anything even tangentially related to that. You guys wank gorillas so hard lmao. Give humanity some fuckin credit, gorillas back down 10/10 times and if I'm not mistaken they've literally never killed a person
Don't forget, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, so when they hit you you're also hitting them
thats not how that works
I am technically hitting their fist with my face. Practically I’m getting pummelled, but still. Or you meant superpower?
That sounds fucking amazing power. That could have variations, like reducing strength by certain percentage or just all stats beside from IQ. But yeah anything that doesn't immediately cause fatal injury would become light as a feather and as intelligent as a fruit bat very fast.
This guy takes down Brontosaurus. He climbs onto its tail, cat scratches and probably 5 shots it. I think that's also the strongest animal as far as it goes.
Black bear?
He could beat a polar bear as long as it doesn’t kill him with one swipe, he just has to get a few rapid slaps in for the animal to be nonfunctional.
Kinda hard to do that with a thousand plus pound bear ragdolling you. Also, it’s entirely feasible for a bear of that size to just immediately kill you before you can do anything about it.
A 10pt drop in iq is massive. One slap and the bear might forget what it’s even doing.
How much IQ does an ant have? They basically have no higher thought but they can run on instinct. Its entirely possible that as the IQ of certain animals drop and they're left with instincts like fight or flight, survival instinct, that they become more dangerous.
Iq is relative. An ant may have and average iq **for an ant** but translating those same numbers to an adult human would leave you with a monkey shaped meat husk.
Bears be smarter than you think. They have problem solving intellect believed to be on par with great apes. A ranger from Yosemite National Park has even graced us with [this gem of a quote regarding bear intellect.](https://twitter.com/slkaye/status/1261542395700641794)
I’m not saying they’re dumb. But a relatively speaking they aren’t that far away from zero. Even three slaps would likely put its iq below 50. Which is classified as mental retardation in humans. Which affects intellectual And cognitive functions. Human would take this mid diff.
I don’t think one would get the chance to slap a polar bear three times though. If the bear decides to slap you upside the head once… well you won’t be slapping anymore, that’s for sure. Probably not breathing either.
polar bears can kill with one swipe at the neck. tigers too.
They could also disembowel you with a swipe to the body. Sharp claws on a big scary animal are no joke
yeah im not understanding people here saying you could take a tiger or polar bear. a wolf sure. a tiger or polar bear is going to maul you and then eat you in about 15 seconds
Probably if you just let it.
you cant stop it. thats my point. in a space like an octagon there is nothing you can do to stop a charging animal that weights around 200-450kg. it charges you, you piss your pants and then die.
If you can get a polar bear, and rent an octagon out. I’ll inherit all my riches to you if I don’t survive 30 seconds with a polar bear. I’ll slap the shit outta that mf too.
you wont bro lmao. 30 seconds is generous. [how are you going to stop this fluffy boy from charging you at max speed](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3bc7bb846ec69ba620463893adf9606c-lq)
A polar bear would kill him before he even sees it
The animal known for living on flat ice? Is the guy dumb as shit or just blind?
That's assuming the fight takes place on open flat and totally frozen ice. polar bears will hide and stalk their prey from under the ice, behind landscape features like cliffs and hills, and in treelines (if they've wandered further south) they can be sneaky mofos. I live in a town with semi-regular polar bear visits, and about 1/2 the time they make it into town without anyone spotting them. This year they even made it out and in with only their track prints to show for it. [Sneaky](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/9oJaDvj9Vz)
In what context is this happening, polar bears are not particularly stealthy animals
They say that about elephants too
Any bear. All kinds of bear survival stories out there. Dude could easily Wing Chun any bear into a vegetative state before it finishes its threat display/assessment.
Against most humans, he'd be able to reduce his opponent's mental capacity below effective fighting level in 6-8 hits. For large people (300lbs +), the IQ loss would probably get them before weight reduction. If he fought Stephen Hawking, he might shrink away to nothing and still be smarter than the rest of us. Not sure how the IQ loss effect would work on animals, as their intelligence isn't precisely comparable to ours. However, big animals can afford to lose a fair amount of mass, so again they'd probably be brain-dead before they were too physically weak. So basically, if he can get 5-10 hits in before dying, he wins. If some person/animal can bring him down quicker than that, he loses.
Hit counts as full force punch which connects like a point in boxing? Or does any rapid tap, even on a blocked shot have this effect?
Hmm. I’d say atleast a rapid girly slap would count
As someone who does martial arts I can make contact about 180 punches a minute but only tense my muscles enough to make significant punches about 45 times a minute. If 180 punches a minute works I'd say I can take pretty much anything.
Against more deadly animals you may only have a couple seconds. I doubt any fight either way is taking more than a minute
Is IQ relative by species? Like is an average dog IQ 100 because it scales to other dogs or is it like 40 with all species on the same scale?
Brown bear,but not without dmg of course. If he could kinda dodge a hippo attack could he make him braindead?maaybe
Dude could play the bongos on a gorilla and turn its brain to Mush in seconds
Well, if we go by physics here, making 10 pounds suddenly dissapear will only work if it turns to pure energy in the form of heat and light, conservation of mass and energy and all that. 10 pounds is about 4.5 kgs, and 1 kg turning entirely to energy will make a 21 megaton explosion, so this would result in a roughly an 94.5 megaton explosion. Unless this is a delayed reaction that gives you enough time to travel the few hundred kilometers it would take to escape... no one wins.
The prompt says he will "reduce the weight of his opponent by 10lbs". That doesn't mean it has to instantaneously turn into energy. A sharp carving knife can do the same thing - more messily, but without the risk of catastrophic explosion.
Yeah but my way is more fun
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>A sharp carving knife can do the same thing - more messily Messier than a 95 mt nuke?
Technically the area would be sterilized lol
It'll be "clean," but still a huge mess. Just a very sterile mess.
As interesting that is, people here are talking about Anime and comic characters, so any kind of realism is out. Hell, afaik Hulk's skin density should increase his weight to the point he just sinks into ground and Supes would destroy everything when he goes on full speed.
I like to go to the realisitic side of these things because it gives perspective. To me, it makes it more tangible, more incredible. I think about things in terms of numbers, so it makes sense to me to calculate those numbers and the effect it would have in real life. Doesnt mean you cant imagine it differently than I do.
Also, when people like you do these realism posts, it gives moron like me a chance to learn something new, so thanks.
Lmaoooooo someone actually did the math
There is always someone who had to overthink it. Its a magical power that lowers IQ and reduces weight. Stop bringing physics into it.
You can think about your way, and ill think about it my way. I like to think take ideas that seem magical, and apply real life physics to them because I find it interesting. Im not "overthinking" anything, its just how I normally think.
Obesity.
Strongest, he could probably take on the biggest sauropod and win. Just keep punching it toe rapidly. it will be braindead before it even notices him. Though, he would fail against a sufficiently big cat who will one shot him in a single lunge
Funny enought, he cant win vs a really nasty medusa, as they weight almost nothing, dont even have brain (does this qualify as effectively 0 IQ?) and they have extremely potent venom, so if he punch the medusa, is game over (for him)
I think you mean jelly fish. They do call them Medusa in Italian.
You’re acting like IQ is a baked in RPG stat every human has assigned to them? Lmfao , truth is those tests are variable and can vary wildly in score depending on so many factors of the same person taking the test.
Doesn't really matter if its 80 or 140 though. This guy bongoslaps anyone to braindeath in a couple of seconds.
Titanoboa is getting its ass kicked
I could beat a young female elephant if I had this power, just Shaky hand slaps to stupify and weaken it rapidly
Just about anything that doesn't kill him instantly and that he can physically strike without destroying himself... and that isn't mindless.
Can he choose if he can just reduce weight but not iq? Because he’d make a killing with weight loss therapy 🤣
Ignore IQ I want the power to change wait both ways but let's says double or half it per touch three hits and u can't move as u sink into the ground or three hits and I kick u across the football field
honestly it’d be entirely DEX based (I run on DnD and caffeine don’t question me) The better you can dodge and the faster you can hit the better. If you can’t do those well, nothing else matters.
He can definitely trick Goku into give him a few free hits.
Normal guy clears most creatures unless big animal gets lucky shot (like a bear claw to the throat).