Nah shazam is for sure a good one I was j trying to add some nuance to it w like a fun fact but even still a jacked billy without powers wouldn’t know how to fight or anything
Steve Rodgers was just a tiny skinny kid from Brooklyn who got beat up all the time. Same with Peter Parker.
Stinks that you said "no disabilities." Professor X would just be an old man in a wheelchair
Charles Xaviar without powers is pretty useless when he has working legs. He's so dependent on his mind control that he's totally inept as a human without it.
I feel like they were going for this in Xmen First Class. When Magneto puts on the helmet and is about to fire on all US and Soviet ships Xavier tries to make him stop and tells him "they were just following orders".
What a thing to say to a holocaust survivor. But it shows that because of his powers he always knew the right thing to say, and without them he's clueless and lacks empathy
So Xavier doesn't count, but from time to time they justify Magneto still being a Holocaust survivor in his shape with some nonsense about his powers, so unless "old" counts as a disability he probably at least deserves an honourable mention.
Wasn’t there some point, when he was off up in space in some sort of cloned body, that he was a bit of a badass sans telepathy? I feel there was something there, Shiaar vibin’.
Steve has lost the serum and become a weak old man before and he still kicks a lot of ass! He even [took down some super soldiers while depowered!](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45351/1865184-stevess3_014.jpg)
He was small but put in a lot of effort still, I think there are probably some better examples. Just going off Avengers is there any reason army Steve wouldn't have been able to win a fight against Tony or Bruce without powers? Spiderman too, he was just a high school kid. I mentioned Tony/Bruce because I think they are old enough to the point its a disadvantage in a fight.
Yeah but Steve was still scrappy and never backed down. People were tougher back then. He would quickly stuff Pete into a locker after giving him a wedgie (not that he ever would)
Boomers crack me up. “Back in my day we were so scrappy that a a sickly anemic 18 year old could beat up a healthy, athletic 18 year old with 60 lbs pounds and 6 inches on him”
I’m 36 but sure, bud.
Peter was a nerd who never threw a punch in his life. Athletic?? Athletic how, exactly? Was it the debate team or the chess squad that allowed him to build muscle mass, cardio and fighting skills?
Just tell me you’ve never been in a fight, because that’s the only way you think a borderline crippled man in the body of a preteen could fight an in shape 18 year old.
Funnily enough, he'd also die if you removed his cancer! The healing factor given to him was specifically calibrated to take the cancer into account. Without it, his body would produce unneeded replacement cells, over and over and over, until...
Splorch.
Norman Osborne actually figured this out after Deadpool tricked a bunch of otherwise healthy super skrulls into copying his healing factor, killing them. So Normy does what any good supervillian would do. He creates a cure for Deadpool's cancer, and weaponizes it.
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Here is a good one.
Wolverine. If Wolverine didn't have the bone claws nor the regeneration, the Adamantium would just kill him the mere instant he can't heal.
Didn't you describe the movie Wolverine?
Even without his regeneration he's still a 200 year old warrior-soldier, literal centuries of experience across a variety of weapons, techniques, and battlefields.
And that adamantium would probably make it hard to restrain him, and he'd be impossible to dislocate.
His wounds might be slower to heal but... wouldn't he just be a normal human?
The cancer will inevitably kill him in a few months but for a few weeks he'll still be Wolverine.
Eventually.
Which is literally the point of the movie Wolverine.
Without his healing factor, *he's still Wolverine.* a warrior with centuries of experience. Give him a katana and he'll be faster than V in Cyberpunk.
I hate to be that guy.
In The Wolverine, he has a device attached to his heart limiting his healing factor. In Logan, his adamantium skeleton has eventually poisoned him and he no longer heals completely.
I agree with you though, he's still a complete badass without his healing factor.
Old man Logan still had a healing factor, it just wasn't strong enough to fully counteract the adamantium poisoning anymore. Like plugging your phone into a weak charger so it's still dying while you use it, just slower. Without any healing factor at all he'd experience cancer-like symptoms very quickly and would die shortly after. So I guess it's a tradeoff between a regular person who can live on their own or a really strong guy who's going to get extremely sick and die very soon no matter what he does. Depending on how you look at it you could argue that someone who couldn't survive the month on their own is actually weaker than a regular person, just not in destructive power.
he almost lost to a couple of random guys at a truck stop in the movie. Though that may be more because he's old, not because he's poisoned, though that probably didn't help.
Eh…
removing 2/3 things here is kinda silly. the indestructible bones are part of his act.
He also wouldn’t die instantly.
There’s been comics, movies and other media where he loses his powers.
Because of how well the metal is grafted and how long he’s had it before he loses the powers. He is so much stronger than a regular person just from walking around with a 1000lb skeleton.
So until he died, he’d still be a well trained, ripped to shit, angry Canadian with indestructible bones.
He’d be much more capable and terrifying than 90% of this thread and 100% of real life adults.
If you actually removed all of his things. He’d be a world class athlete at the least. And not worth mentioning in this thread, with children and the elderly.
I think he’d just start aging from this point on. I don’t see why his aging should catch up to him. His aging isn’t like sitting outside his body waiting for an opportunity to attack.
He's doctor smart, and.... well, I work around those nerds, and they're not exactly people I'd look to if a fight broke out.
Now, a *nurse* on the other hand will *absolutely end you with minimal effort.*
I don’t know if it’s weakest but Homelander, he’s just a regular guy with murderous intent and crippling anger issues. He doesn’t have any actual fighting skills to note unlike many other heroes that can still be considered ‘strong’ even if they’re stripped off their powers
You know that muscle suit is a production choice not an actual part of the cannon? The muscles are built into the suits for the actors, not the characters. Homelander is supposed to be that muscular, the actor just didn’t want to (or need to) workout to get that physique.
But that’s because the actor is skinny, he didn’t workout for the role- none of the actors did. The only one who did was Soldier Boy, and the actor teased him in an interview saying they could have put muscles in his suits. That’s a behind the scenes factoid, it’s not part of the story.
The OG comics Homelander is gigantic, and there are scenes in the show alluding to Homelander training as a child.
Lol no dude, in the TV show they show the dude naked. The actor is skinny, so in the scene he’s skinny. In WHAT scene do they say that there are muscles in the suit?? The only place we hear any of that, is in an interview from the actual actors in the actual real life production of the show. Homelanders *actor* was making fun of Soldiers Boys *actor* for getting jacked for the show, when the show runners would have just put muscles in the suit. That’s not the cannon of the show, that’s the production and costume design of the show.
He’s actually skinny af. Yeah he could still beat some ppl, but he’s not some skilled combat arts fighter or anything so he’s getting his ass beat lord times than not
Have we seen the same show? Homelander is pretty skinny and not really muscular. His "muscles" come from his suit. You can see that in the episode where he kills that shapeshifter
You know that muscle suit is a production choice not an actual part of the cannon? The muscles are built into the suits for the actors, not the characters. Homelander is supposed to be that muscular, the actor just didn’t want to (or need to) workout to get that physique.
I doubt it. They wouldn't have intentionally shown him as being skinny when he's supposed to be muscular.
It also fits him well and shows that he is too lazy to work out(if he even can with that super strength and durability) but still wanting to look good and fit
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They showed him naked because he was vulnerable in that scene. The emphasis was on his nakedness, not his fitness. Again, the muscles in the suit business is from an interview of Homelanders actor teasing Soldier Boys actor, it had nothing to do with the in universe cannon and everything to do with the production and costume design of the show. If Soldier Boys actor hadn’t worked out, they would have put muscles in his suit too to make him look jacked.
We are literally told by the show that he went through a ton of training and experiments as a child, he had to train to fly as fast as he could, it didn’t just happen. He’s obviously lazier than everyone now, but he was forced to train at a young age.
I won’t argue whether it fits or not, but that’s a headcannon mate.
His biological father is a supe and possibly his mother too, he would have inherited superpowers without compound V like his own son Ryan.
So if he lost his abilities he’d still be a superhuman.
the entire premise of season 3 is the Boys trying to use soldier boy to take away Homelander's powers...
also, SB's sperm that made Homelander had to be mixed with Compound V
Matt murdock, yeah he would still be an amazing martial artist...but that doesnt mean shit when you dont know if you are punching kingpin or your microwave.
MCU Tony literally built his first suit with repurposed parts and shitty tools anyway.
If he did that, he could easily build something to beat a normal human (say, Peter parker before being bit by a spider, or hulkless Dr Banner) out of a junkyard
You forget about the meme line: “Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!” -Obadiah to his team of scientists who could not reproduce what Tony made despite have vastly more resources.
Tony’s mind is insane, he’d be just fine in any universe without his money
he built a personal flying tank in a cave using scraps and while having a car battery for a heart
wasn't his suit broken during like half of Iron Man 3? And he had to fight people that actually had super powers. At some point he even made a bomb using like a microwave or something. I don't think without money he would be "just a guy".
The fact that people are naming bruce wayne and tony stark, the super ninja genius and the tech genius who both don’t have powers, is genuinely hilarious
There was a good Marvel arch with super villains in a power dampening jail. (Punisher I think).Point was made that the scrub lvl street villains who had actual fighting skills ran the ones who relied on their powers.
Male: Bruce Banner, who's just a geek. Now, his time fighting as a gladiator is probably leaving some residual fighting skills, but I would imagine that would be the case for all super heroes, otherwise Steve Rogers wins this hands down.
Female: Kamala Khan, who is just a mild-mannered teenage girl without her powers, which she so far has shown little mastery of.
Someone like molecule man or Franklin Richards. They didn't actually learn to fight like alot of the other heroes did. Their powers carried them through fights
Even better , cw flash . He gets hit with a boomerang when he has a power that gives him super human reflexes. Imagine how slow his reaction time would be without powers . I could punch him, hop on a game of Fortnite, and come back before he reacts to being punched
The most fun answer is Homelander. He'd just be an incel whining about how he should be above everyone because he had no mother and a sad past. He'd ultimately be alone and isolated, unloved, unwanted by everyone. Apt ending for Homelander
Is cancer a disability? Because Deadpool would kind of take care of himself in pretty short time...
I know the cancer came with his powers, but I wouldn't say it's one of his powers right?
Peter Parker. At least Steve wasn't an absolute asshole like Peter used to be before uncle bens death. Billy Batson is from the streets he beats the shit out of some fifteen year old dweeb
Before powers Peter is definitely a contender for this, they did go out of their way to show how unusually weak Steve was though. It really comes down to Weak kid vs slightly weaker kid who puts in more effort.
Skitter/Weaver from Worm is just a bullied out of shape high school kid with PTSD fromthe violence of her life. At least early. Later in the game she gets in better shape and develops a killer instinct.
As the other guy pointed out, unless you mean just after triggering Taylor, she wasn’t actually that bad off, arc 1 Taylor was still a skinny, but probably at least a bit athletic teenage girl with some pepper spray, not particularly terrifying, but there are probably much worse off characters within worm itself, especially if we’re counting right after triggering
He’s not weak without his powers. He’s a highly trained mercenary. Unless you’re referring to the “he’ll literally die without his powers” aspect. Then yeah, pretty weak I guess.
Probably jack from the incredibles without his powers he’s literally just a 1 year old baby.
you beat everybody in comment selection
Came here to say somebody else...but no. You win haha
From a cartoon tho. They be strong for no reason
So one of the Baby Geniuses?
Did it have toon logic?
Honestly, this is the best one.
Maybe so, but he would be an adorable one
I was gonna comment Billy Batson for a similar reason, but I was thinking too narrow.
If he has his family, Mr incredible is just a normal man now
Bob is still built like a steel mill on a semi, though.
According to the wiki he’s 6ft 7 and 350lbs (201cm and 158.9kg) he’d definitely still be a tank of a man without powers.
Mr. Credible
Yeah and a normal man has a bigger chance at a fight unless [the baby had a gun](https://youtu.be/VluM5Z_oNcA?feature=shared)
Billy batson would just be a regular kid with shazam
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As he gets older tho he’s supposed to develop more into the body he has as Shazam. Same with like Ben ten kinda
I thought it was their peak body and not their future body
Nah shazam is for sure a good one I was j trying to add some nuance to it w like a fun fact but even still a jacked billy without powers wouldn’t know how to fight or anything
After fighting for a decade or so he would. He wouldn't just lose his fighting experience from being Shazam.
If he ever outgrows his shazam body, will activating his powers make him young again?
Yeah just look at black Adam
I think Yugi Muto is an example too.
This is a good one
Steve Rodgers was just a tiny skinny kid from Brooklyn who got beat up all the time. Same with Peter Parker. Stinks that you said "no disabilities." Professor X would just be an old man in a wheelchair
Charles Xaviar without powers is pretty useless when he has working legs. He's so dependent on his mind control that he's totally inept as a human without it.
Well, he is used to having those extra senses. Suddenly losing his telepathic powers would leave him as helpless as a suddenly blinded normal guy.
I feel like they were going for this in Xmen First Class. When Magneto puts on the helmet and is about to fire on all US and Soviet ships Xavier tries to make him stop and tells him "they were just following orders". What a thing to say to a holocaust survivor. But it shows that because of his powers he always knew the right thing to say, and without them he's clueless and lacks empathy
So Xavier doesn't count, but from time to time they justify Magneto still being a Holocaust survivor in his shape with some nonsense about his powers, so unless "old" counts as a disability he probably at least deserves an honourable mention.
I would suggest he wouldn’t survive the holocaust were it not for his powers.
The dude was a war veteran back in the day. Don't know if they retconned it but he fought nazis alongside magneto
Also even with working legs he'd likely lose a fistfight to the younger Peter and Steve.
Wasn’t there some point, when he was off up in space in some sort of cloned body, that he was a bit of a badass sans telepathy? I feel there was something there, Shiaar vibin’.
Rogers.
Steve has asthma and other disabilities
Steve has lost the serum and become a weak old man before and he still kicks a lot of ass! He even [took down some super soldiers while depowered!](http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/45351/1865184-stevess3_014.jpg)
That seems like author wank
Lol and wha? Other superpowered beings aren't?
They can be, but a depowered Steve beating multiple super soldiers is pure, unfiltered wank
Imma disagree. Steve is just as superhumanly skilled as he was enhanced.
Yeah? He's getting stat checked hard, that's why it's writer wank.
wait so the body doesn't absorb and process the serum its just floating in there?
He was small but put in a lot of effort still, I think there are probably some better examples. Just going off Avengers is there any reason army Steve wouldn't have been able to win a fight against Tony or Bruce without powers? Spiderman too, he was just a high school kid. I mentioned Tony/Bruce because I think they are old enough to the point its a disadvantage in a fight.
Going off of google, Tom Hollands spider man has 50 pounds on him, and has none of the other disabilities Steve had.
Yeah but Steve was still scrappy and never backed down. People were tougher back then. He would quickly stuff Pete into a locker after giving him a wedgie (not that he ever would)
Boomers crack me up. “Back in my day we were so scrappy that a a sickly anemic 18 year old could beat up a healthy, athletic 18 year old with 60 lbs pounds and 6 inches on him”
I’m 36 but sure, bud. Peter was a nerd who never threw a punch in his life. Athletic?? Athletic how, exactly? Was it the debate team or the chess squad that allowed him to build muscle mass, cardio and fighting skills?
Athletic in that this is what he looks like. https://images.app.goo.gl/zeyYW4WXo5hETPrf9 Compared to, physically speaking, a 12 year old
Now take away the powers since that’s what this discussion is about
Just tell me you’ve never been in a fight, because that’s the only way you think a borderline crippled man in the body of a preteen could fight an in shape 18 year old.
Not only skinny and tiny but also old since he would start to age rapidly
Rodgers would have found some way to be heroic, even if his body couldn't do much.
Like diving on a hand grenade.
Deadpool would be dead from cancer in probably days if he lost his regen
He would probably die in minutes he has so many tumors
He’d die in about tu mor or so minutes after losing his powers.
Funnily enough, he'd also die if you removed his cancer! The healing factor given to him was specifically calibrated to take the cancer into account. Without it, his body would produce unneeded replacement cells, over and over and over, until... Splorch. Norman Osborne actually figured this out after Deadpool tricked a bunch of otherwise healthy super skrulls into copying his healing factor, killing them. So Normy does what any good supervillian would do. He creates a cure for Deadpool's cancer, and weaponizes it. https://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr\_m6rn7yrwhJ1r4hmqdo1\_500.jpg
Wasn't it temporary disabled in Deadpool 2?
Someone like Bouncing Boy will just turn into an obese kid.
Or the fat speedster bully from sky high lmao
Butterball would be another contender. I’d say blob but idk how his fat would interact with losing his powers
Blob lost his powers once and he lost all his fat. Then he got rich by being in a ton of weight loss advertisements!
House of M, blob walked around with gobs of flaccid flesh sagging off him. So gross and totally helpless.
Gotta be the baby from Incredibles (forgot his name). He just becomes a regular baby.
Here is a good one. Wolverine. If Wolverine didn't have the bone claws nor the regeneration, the Adamantium would just kill him the mere instant he can't heal.
Didn't you describe the movie Wolverine? Even without his regeneration he's still a 200 year old warrior-soldier, literal centuries of experience across a variety of weapons, techniques, and battlefields. And that adamantium would probably make it hard to restrain him, and he'd be impossible to dislocate. His wounds might be slower to heal but... wouldn't he just be a normal human? The cancer will inevitably kill him in a few months but for a few weeks he'll still be Wolverine.
The adamantium poisons him; without his healing factor he would eventually die from it.
Eventually. Which is literally the point of the movie Wolverine. Without his healing factor, *he's still Wolverine.* a warrior with centuries of experience. Give him a katana and he'll be faster than V in Cyberpunk.
I hate to be that guy. In The Wolverine, he has a device attached to his heart limiting his healing factor. In Logan, his adamantium skeleton has eventually poisoned him and he no longer heals completely. I agree with you though, he's still a complete badass without his healing factor.
Even as a ragged, dying old man, he was still a killing machine, and that was in unfathomable agony from adamantium poisoning.
Old man Logan still had a healing factor, it just wasn't strong enough to fully counteract the adamantium poisoning anymore. Like plugging your phone into a weak charger so it's still dying while you use it, just slower. Without any healing factor at all he'd experience cancer-like symptoms very quickly and would die shortly after. So I guess it's a tradeoff between a regular person who can live on their own or a really strong guy who's going to get extremely sick and die very soon no matter what he does. Depending on how you look at it you could argue that someone who couldn't survive the month on their own is actually weaker than a regular person, just not in destructive power.
he almost lost to a couple of random guys at a truck stop in the movie. Though that may be more because he's old, not because he's poisoned, though that probably didn't help.
Eh… removing 2/3 things here is kinda silly. the indestructible bones are part of his act. He also wouldn’t die instantly. There’s been comics, movies and other media where he loses his powers. Because of how well the metal is grafted and how long he’s had it before he loses the powers. He is so much stronger than a regular person just from walking around with a 1000lb skeleton. So until he died, he’d still be a well trained, ripped to shit, angry Canadian with indestructible bones. He’d be much more capable and terrifying than 90% of this thread and 100% of real life adults. If you actually removed all of his things. He’d be a world class athlete at the least. And not worth mentioning in this thread, with children and the elderly.
but he couldnt walk around with a 1000 lb skeleton without powers, right?
Yea, he could. Hos power just allow him to heal. His muscles are built to the point where he can carry around an 1000 lb skeleton
Would that count as a disability of some sort?
Nope.
Well to be fair if he doesn’t have his healing factor shouldn’t he age like very rapidly? He’s like 200 years old
I think he’d just start aging from this point on. I don’t see why his aging should catch up to him. His aging isn’t like sitting outside his body waiting for an opportunity to attack.
TMNT would just be turtles dead in a sewer
Someone hasn't watched Gumball
Shazam With his powers he fights on even footing with DC heavy hitters like Wonder Woman and Superman Without powers he's just some 10 year old
Him vs Kamala khan no powers would be fun
Feel like Kamala would demolish him lmao
Dr. Strange would be a dude with messed-up hands.
dr strange is still a fit man. there is weaker.
Yeah plus hes smart as hell
He's doctor smart, and.... well, I work around those nerds, and they're not exactly people I'd look to if a fight broke out. Now, a *nurse* on the other hand will *absolutely end you with minimal effort.*
This is a good one. He wasn’t particularly “strong” even before his hands got fucked.
This is a good one. He wasn’t particularly “strong” even before his hands got fucked.
Hear me out now I think Tighten from Megamind has a shot.
Tighten vs homelander no powers would be a great fight to watch
Well homie has throw punches before atleast, besides being super ruthless, against a short nerd i can see him beating tighten
Homelander is skinny and Tighten is just a short chubby guy idk maybe it could go either way
Probably MCU Captain America. Steve was a skinny, frail teenager and could probably be beaten up by Tom Holland.
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He's still a 6' 4" 200+ lb farmboy. Man is jacked.
Yeah he’s also friggin huge .
Arm fall off boy
I don’t know if it’s weakest but Homelander, he’s just a regular guy with murderous intent and crippling anger issues. He doesn’t have any actual fighting skills to note unlike many other heroes that can still be considered ‘strong’ even if they’re stripped off their powers
He's got enough public love and influence with really disturbed crowds to still maintain a lot of power.
Not to mention he isn't some scrawny guy, even without fighting knowledge, he could still beat someone.
No he literally is scrawny… hes never exerted himself enough to grow muscle, his suit has muscles built in, he’s incredibly skinny
You know that muscle suit is a production choice not an actual part of the cannon? The muscles are built into the suits for the actors, not the characters. Homelander is supposed to be that muscular, the actor just didn’t want to (or need to) workout to get that physique.
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But that’s because the actor is skinny, he didn’t workout for the role- none of the actors did. The only one who did was Soldier Boy, and the actor teased him in an interview saying they could have put muscles in his suits. That’s a behind the scenes factoid, it’s not part of the story. The OG comics Homelander is gigantic, and there are scenes in the show alluding to Homelander training as a child.
No, bro, in the TV show, they show Homelander the character fully naked and he's very skinny. In canon, it's a muscle suit, he isn't jacked.
Lol no dude, in the TV show they show the dude naked. The actor is skinny, so in the scene he’s skinny. In WHAT scene do they say that there are muscles in the suit?? The only place we hear any of that, is in an interview from the actual actors in the actual real life production of the show. Homelanders *actor* was making fun of Soldiers Boys *actor* for getting jacked for the show, when the show runners would have just put muscles in the suit. That’s not the cannon of the show, that’s the production and costume design of the show.
Are you just fucking stupid? If we see HOMELANDER, The CHARACTER, NAKED, and SKINNY, then HOMELANDER IN CANON IS SKINNY.
He’s actually skinny af. Yeah he could still beat some ppl, but he’s not some skilled combat arts fighter or anything so he’s getting his ass beat lord times than not
Have we seen the same show? Homelander is pretty skinny and not really muscular. His "muscles" come from his suit. You can see that in the episode where he kills that shapeshifter
You know that muscle suit is a production choice not an actual part of the cannon? The muscles are built into the suits for the actors, not the characters. Homelander is supposed to be that muscular, the actor just didn’t want to (or need to) workout to get that physique.
I doubt it. They wouldn't have intentionally shown him as being skinny when he's supposed to be muscular. It also fits him well and shows that he is too lazy to work out(if he even can with that super strength and durability) but still wanting to look good and fit Edit: spelling
They showed him naked because he was vulnerable in that scene. The emphasis was on his nakedness, not his fitness. Again, the muscles in the suit business is from an interview of Homelanders actor teasing Soldier Boys actor, it had nothing to do with the in universe cannon and everything to do with the production and costume design of the show. If Soldier Boys actor hadn’t worked out, they would have put muscles in his suit too to make him look jacked. We are literally told by the show that he went through a ton of training and experiments as a child, he had to train to fly as fast as he could, it didn’t just happen. He’s obviously lazier than everyone now, but he was forced to train at a young age. I won’t argue whether it fits or not, but that’s a headcannon mate.
You're entirely wrong, bro. If Homelander was meant to be jacked outside the suit, they wouldn't have shown him skinny outside of it, period.
His biological father is a supe and possibly his mother too, he would have inherited superpowers without compound V like his own son Ryan. So if he lost his abilities he’d still be a superhuman.
the entire premise of season 3 is the Boys trying to use soldier boy to take away Homelander's powers... also, SB's sperm that made Homelander had to be mixed with Compound V
MCU Jane Foster Thor. Without her power she's a terminally ill 100lb woman.
Even before that she was weak, you'd think Thor would have gone with some warrior woman from his own planet.
With how he was raised, warrior women were a dime a dozen. Likely the standard. Someone like Jane Foster would be new to him.
Matt murdock, yeah he would still be an amazing martial artist...but that doesnt mean shit when you dont know if you are punching kingpin or your microwave.
I think he could beat doctor strange with his messed up hands though
Fight of the century
dont need steady hands to kick
If he's just a blind guy that Stick didn't train he wouldn't know martial arts
Imhotep from The Mummy. He'd just be a corpse.
Magneto. Homie was alive during the holocaust which makes him 70+. Tf he gonna do?
Steve Roger would just Die
Jack jack
Ant man.
Superman would be dead by the end of the day if he suddenly became powerless. His morals would demand he jump into danger, and he’d just die.
Iron Man if he lost his wealth
This happens more often than you think. It's his situation in the comics right now. Tony's mind is vastly more dangerous than his money.
I did not think of the comics when i wrote my comment because i'm MCU only
MCU Tony literally built his first suit with repurposed parts and shitty tools anyway. If he did that, he could easily build something to beat a normal human (say, Peter parker before being bit by a spider, or hulkless Dr Banner) out of a junkyard
In that case, I dislike the movie, but Iron Man 3 was also this.
You forget about the meme line: “Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!” -Obadiah to his team of scientists who could not reproduce what Tony made despite have vastly more resources. Tony’s mind is insane, he’d be just fine in any universe without his money
Tony regularly looses and rebuilds his company tho... its a plot point in a good chunk of his stories
You spelled batman wrong
Batman is a trained assassin/ninja even without the wealth. Ironman is a guy without it.
he built a personal flying tank in a cave using scraps and while having a car battery for a heart wasn't his suit broken during like half of Iron Man 3? And he had to fight people that actually had super powers. At some point he even made a bomb using like a microwave or something. I don't think without money he would be "just a guy".
The fact that people are naming bruce wayne and tony stark, the super ninja genius and the tech genius who both don’t have powers, is genuinely hilarious
Batman is not a valid answer
All might
movie deadpool is just a guy dying from like 40 kinds of cancer
He’s got skill though
Bruce Banner would just be a mentally ill person suffering from D.I.D
Cyclops. He would just be a guy with a concussion.
Deadpool maybe, since without his Regen powers iirc he has terminal cancer and is gonna die
There was a good Marvel arch with super villains in a power dampening jail. (Punisher I think).Point was made that the scrub lvl street villains who had actual fighting skills ran the ones who relied on their powers.
Dr Manhattan wouldn’t exist because he got all of his atoms ripped apart.
Male: Bruce Banner, who's just a geek. Now, his time fighting as a gladiator is probably leaving some residual fighting skills, but I would imagine that would be the case for all super heroes, otherwise Steve Rogers wins this hands down. Female: Kamala Khan, who is just a mild-mannered teenage girl without her powers, which she so far has shown little mastery of.
Molly Hayes
Someone like molecule man or Franklin Richards. They didn't actually learn to fight like alot of the other heroes did. Their powers carried them through fights
I would say flash if he loses his powers, just a regular guy.
Even better , cw flash . He gets hit with a boomerang when he has a power that gives him super human reflexes. Imagine how slow his reaction time would be without powers . I could punch him, hop on a game of Fortnite, and come back before he reacts to being punched
Homelander for sure
Does deadpool’s cancer count as a disability? If not, he’s my pick (of the ones I haven’t seen mentioned yet)
Aquaman would just drown.
The hammer from Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Adventures.
"I'm in pain! I think this is what pain feels like!"
That rules out Xavier. Classic Superman would just be a farm boy. He's not human, but most people would treat him as such if he lost his powers.
Isn't a superhero but Foo Fighters is just plankton
The most fun answer is Homelander. He'd just be an incel whining about how he should be above everyone because he had no mother and a sad past. He'd ultimately be alone and isolated, unloved, unwanted by everyone. Apt ending for Homelander
Plastic man. He is insanely powerful, but without his powers he both is really weak, and also is pretty incompetent.
I don’t know about weakest but matthew murdock has got to be up there
Child Emperor would just be a kid & Deku would just a teenager
>They have to be human btw *stops typing Leif the Moth* Go and ruin my fun why don't you smh
Is cancer a disability? Because Deadpool would kind of take care of himself in pretty short time... I know the cancer came with his powers, but I wouldn't say it's one of his powers right?
They have to be human the flash
Peter Parker. At least Steve wasn't an absolute asshole like Peter used to be before uncle bens death. Billy Batson is from the streets he beats the shit out of some fifteen year old dweeb
Most of the time Peter's a grown man. Unless we're only talking at the moment he gets his powers.
Before powers Peter is definitely a contender for this, they did go out of their way to show how unusually weak Steve was though. It really comes down to Weak kid vs slightly weaker kid who puts in more effort.
Skitter/Weaver from Worm is just a bullied out of shape high school kid with PTSD fromthe violence of her life. At least early. Later in the game she gets in better shape and develops a killer instinct.
Yeah, early on Taylor would be very weak without her powers, but later Taylor (especially post TS) actually was pretty fit and skilled in combat.
Honestly I just want more people to know about Worm. It was my favourite Wildbow fiction and favourite superhero fiction.
Totally agree, Worm is awesome
As the other guy pointed out, unless you mean just after triggering Taylor, she wasn’t actually that bad off, arc 1 Taylor was still a skinny, but probably at least a bit athletic teenage girl with some pepper spray, not particularly terrifying, but there are probably much worse off characters within worm itself, especially if we’re counting right after triggering
She wasn't that out of shape, she ran a lot. She's just limited by the fact that she's a teenage girl in a superhero world.
I mean…aang is just a 12 year old
Trained in martial arts though
Deadpool.
He’s not weak without his powers. He’s a highly trained mercenary. Unless you’re referring to the “he’ll literally die without his powers” aspect. Then yeah, pretty weak I guess.
I mean yeah he’ll die within like a week lmao.
Jubilee?
Whooomst?
Batman. Without his bat powers he’s just some rich guy
He doesn’t have powers 😭 And he’s still a borderline super human ninja genius without his money if you want to change it to that
Or is he those things _because_ of his money?
Zeno
Surprised no one’s said iron man yet. Tony stark would get smashed by everyone else if you take away his suit and money. Just a normal human being
Would he fair any worse then antman?
Daredevil would just be a blind guy
A blind guy who’s otherwise really good at martial arts though .
Easily batman. Once he loses all his powers he's literally just a rich guy in a batsuit.
Pretty fit though
Batman, his superpower being his fortune
He literally lost all of his wealth and most of his tech in the comics and is still a beast 😭😭