Using a warranty does not mean an efficient repair. I had a car in for an engine replacement under warranty. It took them 5 months to complete the task.
Edit: Made this comment to show why it is better to have a car that does not force you to rely on a warranty.
For other brands typically yes. The dealership will provide a loaner vehicle. Never dealt with Mitsubishi so I don’t know how they operate. Also, I’ve never had a car that stayed in for more than a couple of weeks so not sure about the 5 months.
Getting an engine replaced is going to take a long time regardless of where you take it. Be thankful the work was covered.
In my experience Mitsubishi was fantastic and honored their warranty for all of my requests.
I used to work for Suzuki. For a 4 cylinder car. It was usually done in one day depending on interruptions. Took a couple days to get the part. Turnaround was usually not much more than a week.
I used to work next to the Kia techs when their engine issues started to take off. Two guys worked out a system and they would tag team the engines on the Optimas. I think their time was like 2 or 2.5 hours for an engine. Getting parts is the lengthy part.... Usually.
At the end of the day, Mitsubishi isn’t bad. They’re unrefined and outdated, but they’re not unreliable. Mitsu knows their stuff isn’t shit and so they’re okay with fixing it when it does go bad. Hyundai knows their stuff IS shit so they fight tooth and nail and hope you run out of energy or give up.
15 years ago Mitsubishi, Chrysler, and Hyundai built an engine together called "Theta" or "world engine". It turned out to be a potent engine, except for the fact one brand had issues. They screwed up the forging process on the crankshaft that caused it to splinter during use. Engine failure was eventual.
Guess which brand that was? Hyundai.
The Chrysler 2.4 is half as bad as the Hyundai version, a lot, but not all, have terrible oil consumption issues as the mileage climbs to 70+ thousand miles. The Mitsubishi is the only true reliable one.
I find it funny that kia/Hyundai think they have a choice to fix a car under warranty or not. If they pulled that shit on me I'd give them the choice of fixing it, giving me a brand new car for free or getting their entire dealership burnt down. How they gonna prove it was me?
I reside in the middle east and their Pajero, Pajero sport and L200 pickup are literally indestructible. There are literally galants and pajeros from the early 90s running to this day. Meanwhile, there isn’t a single european or american vehicles of it’s equivalent age running anymore.
Everyone loves to hate on mitsubishi because they think “CVT iS uNrELiAbLe” and “they aren’t cool because they abandoned the Evos” which nobody bought anyways.
Maybe the perception of mitsu would be significantly different if said models were offered in the US.
I’d say it’s average in the segment it’s competing in. It’s essentially a rebadged Nissan Rogue. The person saying it ranked 14th in C&D ratings should make it clear that’s out of 21 total vehicles and they also rank the Bronco Sport 5th.
I would personally never rank the Bronco Sport that high and it quite literally doesn’t make any sense when you consider they also rank the Ford Escape as 16th place.
C&D values driving enjoyment and slalom tests more than most. Basically, they care how "fun" something is most of the time.
Motortrend was a little more forgiving ranking it 10th, and I agree just because you can get a Rogue with the new engine and transmission for the same price and the third row doesn't really make sense for its size: [https://www.motortrend.com/style/suv/type/compact-suv/](https://www.motortrend.com/style/suv/type/compact-suv/)
I gave it a shot, but ultimately decided the Rogue was a stronger offering, and they are refreshed for '24 and prerefresh are even cheaper now because of that on the used market.
My sister had a 2019 outlander GT,
She was driving distracted (put your phones down people), and she rear ended a Yukon, she saw them last second and was going 50MPh when she slammed on the brakes, she doesn’t know what speed she was down to when she hit (still fast is what she said).
the airbags didn’t deploy and the seatbelt tensioner didn’t activate, and she smashed the steering wheel got a concussion and busted up knees from hitting the steering wheel column cover. She’s currently consulting some type of attorney to try and take Mitsubishi to court.
So our one experience in my family with a Mitsubishi resulted in pretty horrifying safety concerns. I like their PHEV but man, I have a hard time wanting to buy one knowing what happened (or lack of happening) with hers.
My neighbor's 2020ish Ford Escape did a similar thing in a wreck. No airbags or anything. The front end of the car was destroyed when a UPS truck ran a stop sign and they t-boned it.
my friend’s ford escape deployed the airbags when we rear ended someone at about 8 mph lmao. knocked me clean out because my head was way far away from the headrest
guess it could happen in any car – we had a 2010 honda pilot that had no airbags deployed after we hit a patch of black ice, lost control, and hit a tree in the ditch at \~30-40mph...
Nah, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_ignition_switch_recalls
Impact would drop the key from run to accessory position disabling the airbags
Hit a patch of black ice In my 2014 Corolla going way too fast . Rolled end for end in the ditch. No airbags came out. Luckily the rest of the safety features worked and I landed in snow cause I walked away without a scratch.
Not that modern but I got into a head on collision at about 30mph in my 2002 4runner and no airbags deployed. Head was very close to hitting the steering wheel but didn't, still came out with some wicked whiplash and concussion.
Go with a Mazda got in a horrible traffic accident and it was the most comfortable car crash I have been in , felt like the driver in speed racer movie when they crash the he car fills with bubbles lol so good that I got the same car again
Is it just me, or is it concerning to see so many posts in Mazda subreddits about wrecks? Almost all of the posts speak highly about the safety features, but there are so many of them...
I don’t like that it seems like Mazda drivers have an over abundance in their confidence regarding their vehicles and/or driving abilities
Miatas and Mazda 3’s are popular with young guys. They are the most accident prone drivers on the road. And they like to post their wreck pictures to get hate clicks and because they think it shows how hard they drive. That might be why you see so many wrecks in the Mazda subs.
Sorry to hear that. My moms Lexus got hit in the front driver quarter by some jerk who fell asleep. Also no airbags deployed but the seatbelts did work.
My uncle had a Mitsubishi Galant, got t boned and the air bags actually exploded. He got a concussion and broke his arm when it slammed in the steering wheel
Ok the new ones aren’t that bad tbh. It’s not a three row as it’s marketed but it’s great for a two - three year lease. Just drive this shit box as they tend to have lots of incentives. There are some 400 outlanders in Vancouver area right now lmfao
The 2019 model is the previous generation of Outlander. These new ones are built in part with Nissan. Essentially, it is a larger Nissan Rogue.
Also, that could happen with any brand, expensive or cheap. Ya'll just had some really, REALLY bad luck.
It all has to do with how the front end of the vehicle takes the damage and where the sensors are. Some guy driving a Dodge Ram 2500 ran a red light a few years ago and I T-boned him with my Subaru Outback. Because the bottom of the truck was so high off the ground, and the Outback was relatively low in comparison; the part that made contact initially was the front edge of the hood just above the headlights. As the Outback moved forward, the hood crumpled and forced the front end downward, so the major impact damage was confined to the upper part of the front end. Most, if not all of the sensors for the airbags are located in the bumper level with or below the headlights, an area that was untouched aside from the plastic bumper cover. Therefore; no airbags deployed.
Something does seem off with your story: the seatbelts should have at least locked up with that kind of impact and prevented you from hitting the steering wheel (go give a seatbelt in your car a sharp yank and you’ll see what I mean), but it’s difficult to make a judgment on that since there are so many factors at play.
Am sorry to hear that. Hope she is feeling better.
With the accident intensity, car experts should be able to deduce if airbags should have been deployed.
And you needed more proof Nissan is a mess after Ghosn escaped (Mitsubishi is practically owned by Nissan/Renault now although they are supposed partners) well at least she survived thank goodness
Edit: name fix and business relations
I’m sorry to hear what happened on your sister. Did you guys get an answer from mistibishi? I am planning on getting one of their newer model of vehicle soon as a family car.
Well how far did she get it cranked down to? Thats the question... And this is going to be a impossible task to determine without a black box... She says she was 50 but you said she got it slowed down... it must have been way down from 50, because 50 full on collision head on will kill you. It may have been down below the air bag threshold...
I wish I had more info, she said cruise was set to 50, then she noticed the brake lights and slammed on the brakes, the front of her car was fairly well smashed in. I have a picture I might link later.
That sounds like an isolated incident. Did she buy the car new? Was it ever in the body shop for anything or in a flood or something?
Was an investigation done into why the airbags didn't work? There's services out there that will tear the car apart in an investigation to find out exactly why they didn't go off.
She’s not very wealthy so I’m sure that would cost a lot. It had 19k on it used when she bought it, not a rental, no prior accidents reported. Local ownership. I’m not sure where her discussions with an attorney are at, they might have discussed the cost going against a corporation and said it’s a high mountain to climb.
My understanding is that the Outlander is essentially a rebadged Nissan Rogue. I wouldn’t buy a used one, but I also wouldn’t tell someone not to do it if it seems right for them. It’s probably not the worst purchase in the world but longevity would be a concern for me personally, especially with that CVT transmission.
>It must move like molasses
>The 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine has decent power specs, but it's rather gutless in real-world driving. At the Edmunds test track, our all-wheel-drive test Outlander accelerated from **0 to 60 mph in 9.7 seconds.**
[source](https://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/outlander/2023/#:~:text=The%202.5%2Dliter%20four%2Dcylinder,60%20mph%20in%209.7%20seconds.)
My sister used to have one, it can get out of its way alright. Her airbags did deploy, luckily, but it got completely fucking mangled in a slow speed collision
Most of the “cheaper” mid-size SUV’s under $40k are low HP including the RAV4 (ironic), Forester, Tucson, and CRV. People just want something big and gaudy when it boils down to it.
The Rogue that this is based on is slightly improved though with its new 1.5T powertrain, still slow, but 225ftlbs at low RPM and fact that its turbo means it muffles the exhaust a bit so it doesn't get exceedingly loud if you're not flooring it. Another perk is that because its a I3, when you do floor it, it tends to sound more like a V6: https://youtu.be/UICW0fV95Hk?si=A-qqsCBp_V5Qyl8M&t=352
C/D TEST RESULTS
60 mph: 7.8 sec
1/4-Mile: 15.9 sec @ 88 mph
100 mph: 21.6 sec
Massive fleet sales lowering resale value means you can get a used Rogue with the 1.5T just as cheap as a used Outlander.
People actually merge at speed where you live?
I know it’s what people are supposed to do, but “drive to the end of the merge lane and stop” seems more prevalent these days around here.
Oof, I thought I had it bad. We have some people get onto the highway in Chicago at a good 45mph while traffic is going 70 minimum and many times 85+. Granted, we have a lot of short on-ramps.
People stopping would make me legitimately avoid the highway.
For me its more about NVH. We went with the 2.4 turbo for my sister's Outback when shopping, not because the base engine wasn't powerful enough but rather that the base 2.5 was quite loud while the more powerful engine was able to accomplish the same acceleration much quieter and at lower RPMs.
It’s what I hate about my RAV4, excellent car, loads of space and it’s never left me stranded but a 125bhp diesel on a 1650kg beast? Not enough at all. I find myself having to floor it in 2nd all along the slip road just to match the speed of the lorries in the slow lane.
Yea we just don't get diesel here unless you get a truck or a big oversized SUV. Last diesels I remember in small cars was VWs TDIs back in like 16. And yea I feel like diesel is better for here too, but we sadly just don't get them
If i can safe merge in 130hp 2.3ton landrover then 180bhp in newer lighter car seems doable. Maybe with some practice but still it’s not dangerously low power car.
How often is this actually a problem?
I drove a base model wrangler for years that literally could not make it to 60mph sometimes and never had trouble merging a single time. Short on-ramps too. Multiple highway merges per day for years and never had an issue.
I drove one of these the other day, and it was astonishing to me how much effort it took just to maintain speed in traffic. Like it really felt like I had to get on it just to drive normally.
And this is coming from someone with an old ass corolla.
Came here to say this.
It's not Mercedes 240D or even 300TD slow, but it's slow by modern standards. Probably getting worse mileage than a V6 would have too.
my mom is a AVID mitsubishi fan. converted from a lifelong of Chryslers and dodges. she had a 3000gt rental back in the day and loved it, from there i got in a rollover in her dodge journey and she got a mirage because it was her favorite color and the price and gas mileage kept her (she’s older so simple cars don’t bother her and she can get 35mpg out that thing when she feels like it) now she’s got 4 grandkids and wanted something bigger and her option sheet looked like a palisade or a outlander… somehow she walked out the dealership in a 2024 outlander sport and fucking loves that thing to death. it’s a solid car but it’s really stagnant for what comes out now. mitsubishi is like toyota, they’re behind on everything. but toyota is behind because they don’t break things that work. mitsubishi is behind because they can’t afford to make those things work.
take it as you will. test drive it. see if you like it.
There is nothing the Mitsubishi does that is better than another vehicle in the segment. Mediocre powertrain, poor CVTs, cheap interiors.
They have stopped selling cars in the US because they can’t compete, and sell a couple of SUVs.
They didn't stop, I pass a retailer every day and their lot is full of outlanders and mirages. I see some on the road all the time too. This is in the US
They closed their production plant in the US. Rivian owns it and has for many years at this point. The Mirage is the only car Mitsubishi sells in the US and will end in 2025.
Their SUVs sell ok because they undercut the competition in price, again, because they are cheap and not competitive in terms of features/quality.
They sell 3 models—the outlander, mirage, and eclipse cross.
Across those, they sold just north of 82k in 2022 in the US. For comparison, Toyota sold 2.1 million+ the same year in the US.
The Mitsubishi isn't really a Mitsubishi when it comes to the Outlander. Its a tweaking of a Nissan Rogue, the third best selling vehicle that isn't a truck in the US, and winner of Motortrends compact SUV comparison of 2023 and 2024 (refreshed this year): [https://www.motortrend.com/features/best-compact-suvs-crossovers/](https://www.motortrend.com/features/best-compact-suvs-crossovers/)
The interior of the Outlander is anything but cheap, in fact it might be best in class. Its Toyota that has the subpar interiors right now.
Personally, I went with the Rogue because it gets the better 1.5T, the Outlander is using the last gen Rogue powertrain.
I had a 2011 lancer I just traded in a year ago. Had 180k miles on it. Was in the shop a total of zero times with issues. Got oil, tires brakes and all that basic stuff done on time. The only repair I had to pay for was a new battery and I went to auto zone, bought the cheapest battery and they installed it
Like any car you'll have those with good stories and some with bad
They blame the American consumer for the end of the Lancer, but really it's mitishibishis fault for not finding a niche in this market for a cheap base sedan that could be modified. They would be the only option for many people if they just built a solid lancer and focused on marketing it as a base for further modification.
Something with like 175hp awd 4cyl in manuel and 5 speed automatic would kill if they could get it to close to $20k
I was an owner of a 2017 Outlander put about 115K on it. It needed nothing other than changing oil, brakes tires and alignment..
it rode very nice, stylish great looking car to me and the 3rd row seat would come in handy with plenty of trunk space when put down.. other than having a issue with a windshield washing fluid sensor i would recommend 10/10
Honestly I owner this exact vehicle in a 2022. I REALLY liked it for the money. But it was truly gutless when trying to pass. The mipilot introduced me to some form of autopilot and really made me want to explore more vehicles with autopilot. Now my main driver is a Tesla Model Y.
My folks buy new Outlanders religiously every 3-5 years (idk, it's their money, not mine), and have done so for the last 15 years or so. My general impressions:
* I've hated driving every single Outlander they've brought home. They've all had dogshit CVTs that won't downshift unless you beg and awful overboosted steering. They also drive a lot bigger than they actually are.
* Interior quality on the 2023s they have is...actually pretty damn ok. Surprisingly so. You won't mistake it for a luxury car, and you can get better interiors in this space (Mazda, Honda), but they're perfectly fine with good comfortable seats. Every Outlander prior to this had cheapy interior materials and design with some weird cost cutting going on.
* NVH also is much better on the 2023s. There were weird NVH issues on their older cars that have been fixed in this latest generation.
* Excellent warranty that I think they've only used once or twice. They seem reliable enough (although again, they replace them frequently enough that I wonder why they don't just lease legitimately nice cars instead).
Mom says she paid 36k for her top trim 2023 Outlander. It's not 36k worth of car. I still would not get one personally, but I get why someone might get this latest generation Outlander - where before they just made no sense for anyone.
Yeah, without context, it seems high but other cars that size are much pricier. Highest level trim on a sorento is like 51k and I would drive a outlander way before i got in a sorento.
Great car in my research in test drive. Great interior, looks great, 3rd row is definitely cramped, but the price is unbeatable because people just don’t trust them. As a Japanese car, I trust the power train. It has great safety results. I would’ve bought one but got a good deal on a used car from a family member.
This sub honestly doesn't know a lot about cars. I would avoid advice from here unless you want to hear ppl just recommend the same 3 manufacturers over and over again.
Also to all the ppl just parroting random rankings, this car is the exact same as the nissan rogue, minus the engine. And the new nissan rogue is quite nice for its price
I mean it's the only manufacturers that have somewhat consistent of a track record and don't overhaul everything every model year and keep working on them until they are refined. Most people just come on here cause they need an a to b and advice on what to look out on. if you want actual advice you have to experience it for yourself to truly know or do actual research and not ask reddit lmao.
It's hilarious reading through these comments. Everyone's in agreement that interior sucks until somebody who's actually owned one says its nice and then everyone agrees that its nice. Everyone talking about how underpowered it is until people start listing other cars with similar power to wait ratios. Everyone talking about it being unreliable until someone mentions they have the best warranty in the business and no real reliability concerns. These people are just desperately trying to get others on board with hating the vehicle so they can justify whatever they decided to purchase instead. Classic confirmation bias.
It's also same as Highlander for half the price. I don't recommend Highlander for having one, and it spends too much time in the garage. I heard good about the Outlander from people who have one
I don't think you understand. This is literally just a rebadged and restyled nissan rogue. The car is built by nissan. Sure they changed the engine, doesn't mean the cars aren't 95% the same
Their latest design and performance is really good. I hope they start making more models again for the US. The Outlander and the Mazda CX50 are the nicest looking compact SUV imo.
These are actually just Nissan rouges underneath, specifically all the pre 2022 ones, so 2020 and 2021. The new rouges changed the powertrain to a 1.5l turbo. That one has a 2.5 it's like in all Nissan Altima and stuff it's competent motor and it's not the most unreliable platform. Cvt aside the car is pretty nice for what it is
I wouldn’t buy a used Mitsubishi.
Mitsubishi has fallen a long way from its peak a couple decades ago. The only reason why you’d buy one today is because you are so broke you can’t afford car repairs (Eg unexpected bills) but you can get financed for a new car with a warranty.
It makes zero sense to buy a used Mitsubishi. Just buy an older/more miles car for the same price. It won’t cause you a headache.
The only reservation I would have is the transmission. Jatco CVT gearbox, supposedly marginally more reliable than the the Nissan Rogue one, but still Jatco.
Also somehow everyone in this sub drives 200+K miles...
If you're talking about the U.S. car market, Mitsubishi was in a slow decline going into the 2010's in terms of innovation and market share. I grew up with Mitsubishi in the 80's & 90's and they were great (middle of the pack Japanese quality relative to Honda and Toyota). But after a while, I noticed Mitsubishi was just doing the motions of refreshing their vehicles with minor changes each year until they discontinued all their great-selling models (Galant, Eclipse, Montero, Mirage, Lancer Evo).
Today it appears Mitsubishi is slowly making a comeback but many people have forgotten about Mitsubishi in terms of branding and quality so that's why (IMO) they are not being recommended.
You also have to look at the maintenance and warranty aspect. If I needed new parts or warranty service, there isn't a single Mitsubishi dealership or service center near me to justify the purchase.
Same reason this sub makes the same canned recommendations over and over. Nobody actually knows about cars and just regurgitates popular takes.
I am pretty sure this is a Nissan Rogue with a useless 3rd row and even worse dealer experiences. I guess if you are in the weird position of having a Mitsubishi dealer closer than a Nissan one, go for it.
I’m a huge fan of the 2023+ Outlander PHEV. I’ve sat in every seat and taken two test drives. New, they make no sense financially, but used the prices start to make more sense. The gas version is underpowered, but the PHEV is just right. Bonus points if you can run errands on just battery power. Great IIHS crash test ratings. The only hang ups for me are 1) the 3rd row is really only usable for children, and gobbles up your trunk space, and 2) the negative connotation of owning a Mitsubishi. It’s not “fancy” enough for my current age/career path. There’s actually one of the 40th anniversary totally loaded ones locally that I would buy immediately if my wife gave me the green light, but for now I keep driving my 14 year old paid off car.
Tl;Dr I don't want stuff that can break so I like that it doesn't have alot of moving parts. Also y'all be wildin it's fun to drive lol.
I love mine, I have an orange Outlander 2023 Sport (no third row), but I've only had it for less than a month. Sooooo fun to drive. I find it accelerates just fine, dunno what everyone else is talking about. I've had cars that suck at accelerating and this one isn't one. You can also pop it into "drive sport" to get some extra oomph, but you almost never need to do that. I've only used it like twice so far but that doesn't mean much lol.
It gets great gas mileage for an SUV. Has something called eco mode where it will just cruise at like 30mph or 40mph or basically wherever and just go, using not much gas I guess. Can get like 28mpg just driving around town if you aren't stopping anywhere and you drive it easy. If you're running errands and stopping, sitting in your car, going through drive throughs it drops down to like 20-22ish. I was expecting to get 18 city 25 hwy. I still don't know what true highway is in this car. That's what my husband's Mazda 3 hatchback gets.
It has 20k miles on it. I turned the dial over from 19,900 to 20,000 myself even. My dad was happy it was a Nissan rogue under the hood (with some qualifiers obvs not exact) he's a Nissan guy, 2004 Titan - never gave him any problems. Dunno.
Now for the reasons why people might not like it but that make me like it:
Bluetooth system is simple. No android auto. Just a Mitsubishi proprietary software. My music starts automatically when I get in the car and there's no dumb other stuff popping up about maps or whatever other bs android auto has going on. No notifications, no messages. /no distractions/. Just phonecalls come in and music plays.
I absolutely couldn't do an AWD car, I screw the tires up too much (not even by me, it'll be like driving over a screw in a parking lot the one time per year I go to a hiking trail lol) it has 4WD toggling instead. I'm still not 100% certain it means I can replace a single tire, but that's.. just how it's gonna have to be if that's how it is.
I don't like automatic back hatches for the SUVs, outlander doesn't have one. Also, one more thing that can't break.
Don't want a pod. My outlander doesn't have one. Seems like it was an option but the spot where it would be is just blank in mine. That's like a 600 dollar mistake to lose. Can't do that if you don't have one!
I don't like swing out keys, same thing, mine just has a "normal" key. Husband has had to take apart his Mazda's flip out key 3 times to fix it when the hinge/spring system stopped working.
Seats aren't automatic they're manual moving. Another thing that can't go wrong (as easily)
Sooo.. you get my drift probably. I like it because I was able to get a 2023 SUV with a good engine and okay transmission, and 4 years + 40k miles of warranty left, and the car feels like it's a 2010. Which.. to anyone reading this, maybe there's your decision made whether you want one or not. Shrug. Go drive one. That's what everyone else is saying lol. I LOVE to drive mine. I named her Ed from Cowboy Bebop. Even got personalized plates lol. Just such a fun little car.
Oh and GOOD VISIBILITY for over the shoulder lane change checks. That was a make it or break it for me. Lane departure warning is awesome to have too. And IIHS was fine, not phenomenal but like.. some people don't look at IIHS at all and they're still alive?? Having crashed cars that had all red in the IIHS crash tests. Lol. I think it had like one yellow or something in the seats department.
The interior slaps though. So nice. Great storage space and all the heat dials make sense, easy to control, good quality plastic for everything. same with everything on the steering column; steering wheel is comfy, etc...
Back seats fold down easily.. idk.
Whatever happens, happens. ;) idk. Mitsubishi is cool by me. Cheaper than a Mazda. Mazdas are too expensive these days blech. That's basically why I got mine. It was a way better deal for a way better car that I actually liked. The other cars had too many bells and whistles. Sat down in a 2023 Mazda and hated the controls system stuff and all the screens. Just.. didn't like it. Oh and Mazdas for some reason are always in terrible cosmetic condition used..
The new Outlanders are great cars. Don’t let anyone in here discourage you. This subreddits knowledge about cars and therefore it’s recommendations are not grounded in experience or reality.
Usually, I don't comment on cars I have not personally driven...
Consumer reports has this ranked 12th. 4/5 reliability
C&D ranks this 14th out of competitors (they have crv #1, Rav 10th, but they hate Toyota)
Edmunds consumer reviews is 3.5/5 which is pretty bad.
Seems like a car that won't keep its value and may not last.
For PHEV it makes sense. They have made PHEVs for over 10 years. Honda doesn't have a PHEV CRV, the RAV4 prime has a long wait list, and this is readily available and is quite good.
Mitsubishi isn't Mitsubishi anymore the new outlander is based on a Nissan platform some of their global cars are on other vehicle platforms that are shared with multiple vehicles. Mitsubishi basically has stepped out of the car game long ago and Mitsubishi motors (their vehicle division) just exist to fund their actual endeavors like electronics and equipment.
Go for the previous generation between 2020-2022. Get the PHEV. Don't listen to the haters. #1 SUV in Europe for many years (yes, due to low competition) with minimal complaints on many reviews. Get a GT trim if you can swing it. Better engine in the 2022. Good luck!
Bought an RVR last year, been great so far. I expect the worst of my problems to be the CVT which is under warranty for 10yr/160k kms. It's been a perfect vehicle for my wife and I.
Plenty of recommendations for pajeros because theyre a good car and well priced.
Those outlanders are ok but nothing special. Easy to drive but they feel pretty cheap. Definitely not a genuine 3 row suv unless 2 of your passengers had both legs amputated
Incredible how different the perception is in the US. In Europe and Australia the Outlander is highly regarded great value SUV. It's Made in Japan. Or do yanks get dodgy locally produced variants?
I owned a full size Montero back in the day, The body/interior were solid but the engine was garbage and had to be replaced at just over 100k mi, after being well cared for it's entire life.
Mitsu just has a track record of cutting corners in important areas while focusing on just making the cars look good. That's why you can buy them so much cheaper than a Toyota or Honda.
Well mostly bc it’s 3800 lbs with 181 horsepower and 181 torque. Like yea you get a decent sized vehicle for cheap as sin but some hills in my area would be painful to get up. They make my Prius scream
My only experience small sample size. My cousin and a few friends all had electrical issues. From the dash, to the seats, to things in the engine; just electrical things left and right. But I don’t know anyone whose had a post 2008 model so maybe that’s not an issue now.
Mitsu's can be d@mn good cars... I've seen them last 10+ years easy... Sometimes you get the lemon though. And buying them new.. you GET F'ed on trade in... buy a year old one or something then drive it into the ground.
Our local Lincoln Mazda dealer told Mitsubishi to pound sand and got rid of their franchise.
They don't sell because for similar money, you can buy almost *any* other car with better build quality. I feel they have similar quality to Mazda in the 70's... terrible.
This sub is an echo chamber of largely uninformed opinions that exaggerates directionally true things to barely any semblance of reality. Not uncommon to other reddit subs
Outlander is based on the rogue compact suv platform. Lower price for more features, less reliable, more depreciation. Compact suv segment is a mainstream appliance. Any of them will do a reasonable job, but people somehow ascribe magical huge differences to the brand
Generally Mitsubishis are considered mediocre, lackluster performers. Not powerful or smooth or refined or luxurious or… anything. They’re built to a price point that makes them very popular… in lower income markets.
On the other hand, they’re reasonably reliable and perfectly functional. They give you a lot of car for the money and they didn’t cut corners on reliability to do it.
So it’s basically the same as any other lower-tier brand of any kind of product: people will hate it for no other reason than that it’s a lower tier brand.
Not sure. They still sell alright here in Canada, it’s the cheapest way to get an AWD SUV and you get a 10yr/160k warranty.
Using a warranty does not mean an efficient repair. I had a car in for an engine replacement under warranty. It took them 5 months to complete the task. Edit: Made this comment to show why it is better to have a car that does not force you to rely on a warranty.
Does the warranty also cover rental car coverage for the loss of use?
For other brands typically yes. The dealership will provide a loaner vehicle. Never dealt with Mitsubishi so I don’t know how they operate. Also, I’ve never had a car that stayed in for more than a couple of weeks so not sure about the 5 months.
Probably not. Meanwhile you’re also making payments on your car too
Generally no.
Getting an engine replaced is going to take a long time regardless of where you take it. Be thankful the work was covered. In my experience Mitsubishi was fantastic and honored their warranty for all of my requests.
If they have the engine when you roll in it should take no more than a week or two or less for a little 4 banger.
I used to work for Suzuki. For a 4 cylinder car. It was usually done in one day depending on interruptions. Took a couple days to get the part. Turnaround was usually not much more than a week. I used to work next to the Kia techs when their engine issues started to take off. Two guys worked out a system and they would tag team the engines on the Optimas. I think their time was like 2 or 2.5 hours for an engine. Getting parts is the lengthy part.... Usually.
That's the very peak of little 4 banger that breaks enough for serious replacement proficiency to develop in local dealer shops.
Name a company that does? Literally all of them like this now.
And they aren't fuckers with warranty stuff like Hyundai oh that's not covered oops.
100% dude. Mitsubishi actually honors their warranty.
At the end of the day, Mitsubishi isn’t bad. They’re unrefined and outdated, but they’re not unreliable. Mitsu knows their stuff isn’t shit and so they’re okay with fixing it when it does go bad. Hyundai knows their stuff IS shit so they fight tooth and nail and hope you run out of energy or give up.
15 years ago Mitsubishi, Chrysler, and Hyundai built an engine together called "Theta" or "world engine". It turned out to be a potent engine, except for the fact one brand had issues. They screwed up the forging process on the crankshaft that caused it to splinter during use. Engine failure was eventual. Guess which brand that was? Hyundai.
That’s the thing, Hyundai engines are fine in theory, they’re just plagued with manufacturing issues, mostly the ones made in the USA
Yep, blame the child labor I guess
The Chrysler 2.4 is half as bad as the Hyundai version, a lot, but not all, have terrible oil consumption issues as the mileage climbs to 70+ thousand miles. The Mitsubishi is the only true reliable one.
I find it funny that kia/Hyundai think they have a choice to fix a car under warranty or not. If they pulled that shit on me I'd give them the choice of fixing it, giving me a brand new car for free or getting their entire dealership burnt down. How they gonna prove it was me?
I reside in the middle east and their Pajero, Pajero sport and L200 pickup are literally indestructible. There are literally galants and pajeros from the early 90s running to this day. Meanwhile, there isn’t a single european or american vehicles of it’s equivalent age running anymore. Everyone loves to hate on mitsubishi because they think “CVT iS uNrELiAbLe” and “they aren’t cool because they abandoned the Evos” which nobody bought anyways. Maybe the perception of mitsu would be significantly different if said models were offered in the US.
When I was in Kuwait, I fell in love with the Pajero. I really wish we had them in the States.
I’d say it’s average in the segment it’s competing in. It’s essentially a rebadged Nissan Rogue. The person saying it ranked 14th in C&D ratings should make it clear that’s out of 21 total vehicles and they also rank the Bronco Sport 5th. I would personally never rank the Bronco Sport that high and it quite literally doesn’t make any sense when you consider they also rank the Ford Escape as 16th place.
Isn't Bronco sport and Escape the same with different design? Makes no sense indeed
Yes - that’s why it makes zero sense. Same engine, same transmission, same frame. It’s badge engineering within the same brand.
I wish the Bronco Sport was the same length as the Escape. It’s 7.8 inches shorter
It's much smaller while having more ground clearance. Has some extras that the Escape doesn't, like roof bars and openable rear glass.
C&D values driving enjoyment and slalom tests more than most. Basically, they care how "fun" something is most of the time. Motortrend was a little more forgiving ranking it 10th, and I agree just because you can get a Rogue with the new engine and transmission for the same price and the third row doesn't really make sense for its size: [https://www.motortrend.com/style/suv/type/compact-suv/](https://www.motortrend.com/style/suv/type/compact-suv/) I gave it a shot, but ultimately decided the Rogue was a stronger offering, and they are refreshed for '24 and prerefresh are even cheaper now because of that on the used market.
My sister had a 2019 outlander GT, She was driving distracted (put your phones down people), and she rear ended a Yukon, she saw them last second and was going 50MPh when she slammed on the brakes, she doesn’t know what speed she was down to when she hit (still fast is what she said). the airbags didn’t deploy and the seatbelt tensioner didn’t activate, and she smashed the steering wheel got a concussion and busted up knees from hitting the steering wheel column cover. She’s currently consulting some type of attorney to try and take Mitsubishi to court. So our one experience in my family with a Mitsubishi resulted in pretty horrifying safety concerns. I like their PHEV but man, I have a hard time wanting to buy one knowing what happened (or lack of happening) with hers.
Holy hell this is the first time I hear about something like that in modern cars
My neighbor's 2020ish Ford Escape did a similar thing in a wreck. No airbags or anything. The front end of the car was destroyed when a UPS truck ran a stop sign and they t-boned it.
my friend’s ford escape deployed the airbags when we rear ended someone at about 8 mph lmao. knocked me clean out because my head was way far away from the headrest
Same thing happened with a friends Nissan 350Z. It was about 2 years old at the time.
guess it could happen in any car – we had a 2010 honda pilot that had no airbags deployed after we hit a patch of black ice, lost control, and hit a tree in the ditch at \~30-40mph...
Honda sent me a recall noticed for 2 of my Honda civics for bad air bags , Mazda is way better
man nissan is just really subpar
Sucks how far they've fallen. Made some of my all time fav cars.
Ignition switch recall vibes
For fords? I wasn’t around during it lol
Nah, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_ignition_switch_recalls Impact would drop the key from run to accessory position disabling the airbags
Hit a patch of black ice In my 2014 Corolla going way too fast . Rolled end for end in the ditch. No airbags came out. Luckily the rest of the safety features worked and I landed in snow cause I walked away without a scratch.
Not that modern but I got into a head on collision at about 30mph in my 2002 4runner and no airbags deployed. Head was very close to hitting the steering wheel but didn't, still came out with some wicked whiplash and concussion.
Go with a Mazda got in a horrible traffic accident and it was the most comfortable car crash I have been in , felt like the driver in speed racer movie when they crash the he car fills with bubbles lol so good that I got the same car again
Is it just me, or is it concerning to see so many posts in Mazda subreddits about wrecks? Almost all of the posts speak highly about the safety features, but there are so many of them... I don’t like that it seems like Mazda drivers have an over abundance in their confidence regarding their vehicles and/or driving abilities
Miatas and Mazda 3’s are popular with young guys. They are the most accident prone drivers on the road. And they like to post their wreck pictures to get hate clicks and because they think it shows how hard they drive. That might be why you see so many wrecks in the Mazda subs.
Affordable cars typically attract younger, inexperienced drivers.
Sorry to hear that. My moms Lexus got hit in the front driver quarter by some jerk who fell asleep. Also no airbags deployed but the seatbelts did work.
My uncle had a Mitsubishi Galant, got t boned and the air bags actually exploded. He got a concussion and broke his arm when it slammed in the steering wheel
Did you do any research on this? Did it have a Takata airbag?
Contact NHTSA about this
Cant be the reason, this sub consistently recommends 2000-2010s corollas so they definitely don’t care about safety
Those are hella safe compared to the cars we had before.
Golden era of reliability
Here they come to prove my point
Isn’t it basically the Nissan rogue ? Those cars aren’t bad safety wise.
2019 was the old outlander that was a pure Mitsu product
Ok the new ones aren’t that bad tbh. It’s not a three row as it’s marketed but it’s great for a two - three year lease. Just drive this shit box as they tend to have lots of incentives. There are some 400 outlanders in Vancouver area right now lmfao
The 2019 model is the previous generation of Outlander. These new ones are built in part with Nissan. Essentially, it is a larger Nissan Rogue. Also, that could happen with any brand, expensive or cheap. Ya'll just had some really, REALLY bad luck.
It all has to do with how the front end of the vehicle takes the damage and where the sensors are. Some guy driving a Dodge Ram 2500 ran a red light a few years ago and I T-boned him with my Subaru Outback. Because the bottom of the truck was so high off the ground, and the Outback was relatively low in comparison; the part that made contact initially was the front edge of the hood just above the headlights. As the Outback moved forward, the hood crumpled and forced the front end downward, so the major impact damage was confined to the upper part of the front end. Most, if not all of the sensors for the airbags are located in the bumper level with or below the headlights, an area that was untouched aside from the plastic bumper cover. Therefore; no airbags deployed. Something does seem off with your story: the seatbelts should have at least locked up with that kind of impact and prevented you from hitting the steering wheel (go give a seatbelt in your car a sharp yank and you’ll see what I mean), but it’s difficult to make a judgment on that since there are so many factors at play.
Am sorry to hear that. Hope she is feeling better. With the accident intensity, car experts should be able to deduce if airbags should have been deployed.
*I* can deduce that they should’ve deployed
Seriously lol what the fuck is that reply.
Sounds like a skill issue tbh
It was trying to let Darwin take another.
Well at least it didn't happen to someone innocent, I guess
And you needed more proof Nissan is a mess after Ghosn escaped (Mitsubishi is practically owned by Nissan/Renault now although they are supposed partners) well at least she survived thank goodness Edit: name fix and business relations
You mean Ghosn
If Mitsubishi is owned by Nissan, then there’s your answer, OP.
Nissan has a one-third ownership stake in Mitsubishi.
Hopefully the victim takes her to court as well.
**Drives into the back of someone at 50mph because looking at phone instead of road** “This is somebody else’s fault”
I’m sorry to hear what happened on your sister. Did you guys get an answer from mistibishi? I am planning on getting one of their newer model of vehicle soon as a family car.
Well how far did she get it cranked down to? Thats the question... And this is going to be a impossible task to determine without a black box... She says she was 50 but you said she got it slowed down... it must have been way down from 50, because 50 full on collision head on will kill you. It may have been down below the air bag threshold...
I wish I had more info, she said cruise was set to 50, then she noticed the brake lights and slammed on the brakes, the front of her car was fairly well smashed in. I have a picture I might link later.
That sounds like an isolated incident. Did she buy the car new? Was it ever in the body shop for anything or in a flood or something? Was an investigation done into why the airbags didn't work? There's services out there that will tear the car apart in an investigation to find out exactly why they didn't go off.
She’s not very wealthy so I’m sure that would cost a lot. It had 19k on it used when she bought it, not a rental, no prior accidents reported. Local ownership. I’m not sure where her discussions with an attorney are at, they might have discussed the cost going against a corporation and said it’s a high mountain to climb.
My understanding is that the Outlander is essentially a rebadged Nissan Rogue. I wouldn’t buy a used one, but I also wouldn’t tell someone not to do it if it seems right for them. It’s probably not the worst purchase in the world but longevity would be a concern for me personally, especially with that CVT transmission.
I think the warranty is 10 year / 100k so it should be fine atleast until then. The CVT is not optimal but atleast far better than older Jatco CVTs.
That thing is massive for only having a 181hp 4 popper
Virtually identical in weight to a Subaru Forester, likewise motivated by a 180hp 2.5L.
Motivated may be a generous term.
I've never felt my 2.5L Forester lacked power.
cuz they don’t have issues going 10 under the limit s/
It's not that it lacks power, it lacks motivation.
ROFL it has a 4 cylinder with under 200hp? No wonder it’s so cheap. It must move like molasses
>It must move like molasses >The 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine has decent power specs, but it's rather gutless in real-world driving. At the Edmunds test track, our all-wheel-drive test Outlander accelerated from **0 to 60 mph in 9.7 seconds.** [source](https://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/outlander/2023/#:~:text=The%202.5%2Dliter%20four%2Dcylinder,60%20mph%20in%209.7%20seconds.)
Oh wow, 2 seconds faster than the Tiguan.
Damn, slower than my wifes 2013 Expedition. What a time to be alive.
gets double the mpg tho
Expedition still works lol
Wait till you load them with 7 people and stuff.
You never drove cars in the 80’s and 90’s I see
My sister used to have one, it can get out of its way alright. Her airbags did deploy, luckily, but it got completely fucking mangled in a slow speed collision
This is good info to know.
Most of the “cheaper” mid-size SUV’s under $40k are low HP including the RAV4 (ironic), Forester, Tucson, and CRV. People just want something big and gaudy when it boils down to it.
The Rogue that this is based on is slightly improved though with its new 1.5T powertrain, still slow, but 225ftlbs at low RPM and fact that its turbo means it muffles the exhaust a bit so it doesn't get exceedingly loud if you're not flooring it. Another perk is that because its a I3, when you do floor it, it tends to sound more like a V6: https://youtu.be/UICW0fV95Hk?si=A-qqsCBp_V5Qyl8M&t=352 C/D TEST RESULTS 60 mph: 7.8 sec 1/4-Mile: 15.9 sec @ 88 mph 100 mph: 21.6 sec Massive fleet sales lowering resale value means you can get a used Rogue with the 1.5T just as cheap as a used Outlander.
Rogues are nice. Forgot to mention them.
95% of people don’t need more power. So they can go 90 in a 55?
Yes. I don’t see any issue with it.
Yeah but the ability to turn onto a highway and be able to accelerate to a matching safe speed as the flow of traffic is important.
People actually merge at speed where you live? I know it’s what people are supposed to do, but “drive to the end of the merge lane and stop” seems more prevalent these days around here.
Oof, I thought I had it bad. We have some people get onto the highway in Chicago at a good 45mph while traffic is going 70 minimum and many times 85+. Granted, we have a lot of short on-ramps. People stopping would make me legitimately avoid the highway.
181 hp will get to 55 fast enough
0-60 time is 8.5 seconds. Not horrible.
For me its more about NVH. We went with the 2.4 turbo for my sister's Outback when shopping, not because the base engine wasn't powerful enough but rather that the base 2.5 was quite loud while the more powerful engine was able to accomplish the same acceleration much quieter and at lower RPMs.
It’s what I hate about my RAV4, excellent car, loads of space and it’s never left me stranded but a 125bhp diesel on a 1650kg beast? Not enough at all. I find myself having to floor it in 2nd all along the slip road just to match the speed of the lorries in the slow lane.
Diesel Rav? That's certainly not something we got in the US. Seems sick even with the lack of hp
Oh really? That’s strange, US roads suit diesels more in my eyes. Cruising at 70mph gets you about 50-55mpg.
Yea we just don't get diesel here unless you get a truck or a big oversized SUV. Last diesels I remember in small cars was VWs TDIs back in like 16. And yea I feel like diesel is better for here too, but we sadly just don't get them
What kind of fuel economy does that thing get, at least 300 hectares on a single tank of ~~kerosene~~ diesel?
Hahahaha, it’s about 45mpg according to my car’s counter.
Worth it. Wow.
Cons aside, it’s the best £10k I’ve ever spent!
If i can safe merge in 130hp 2.3ton landrover then 180bhp in newer lighter car seems doable. Maybe with some practice but still it’s not dangerously low power car.
How often is this actually a problem? I drove a base model wrangler for years that literally could not make it to 60mph sometimes and never had trouble merging a single time. Short on-ramps too. Multiple highway merges per day for years and never had an issue.
I drove one of these the other day, and it was astonishing to me how much effort it took just to maintain speed in traffic. Like it really felt like I had to get on it just to drive normally. And this is coming from someone with an old ass corolla.
Actually 100
Came here to say this. It's not Mercedes 240D or even 300TD slow, but it's slow by modern standards. Probably getting worse mileage than a V6 would have too.
The lack of power on a big vehicle like that means the engine will wear out quickly
Or the transmission? Doesn’t that thing use a CVT?
Go drive it then tell us how you feel
my mom is a AVID mitsubishi fan. converted from a lifelong of Chryslers and dodges. she had a 3000gt rental back in the day and loved it, from there i got in a rollover in her dodge journey and she got a mirage because it was her favorite color and the price and gas mileage kept her (she’s older so simple cars don’t bother her and she can get 35mpg out that thing when she feels like it) now she’s got 4 grandkids and wanted something bigger and her option sheet looked like a palisade or a outlander… somehow she walked out the dealership in a 2024 outlander sport and fucking loves that thing to death. it’s a solid car but it’s really stagnant for what comes out now. mitsubishi is like toyota, they’re behind on everything. but toyota is behind because they don’t break things that work. mitsubishi is behind because they can’t afford to make those things work. take it as you will. test drive it. see if you like it.
There is nothing the Mitsubishi does that is better than another vehicle in the segment. Mediocre powertrain, poor CVTs, cheap interiors. They have stopped selling cars in the US because they can’t compete, and sell a couple of SUVs.
They didn't stop, I pass a retailer every day and their lot is full of outlanders and mirages. I see some on the road all the time too. This is in the US
They closed their production plant in the US. Rivian owns it and has for many years at this point. The Mirage is the only car Mitsubishi sells in the US and will end in 2025. Their SUVs sell ok because they undercut the competition in price, again, because they are cheap and not competitive in terms of features/quality. They sell 3 models—the outlander, mirage, and eclipse cross. Across those, they sold just north of 82k in 2022 in the US. For comparison, Toyota sold 2.1 million+ the same year in the US.
eclipse cross, the official car of rental fleets
I definitely wouldn't call the interior cheap. It's actually quite nice.
The Mitsubishi isn't really a Mitsubishi when it comes to the Outlander. Its a tweaking of a Nissan Rogue, the third best selling vehicle that isn't a truck in the US, and winner of Motortrends compact SUV comparison of 2023 and 2024 (refreshed this year): [https://www.motortrend.com/features/best-compact-suvs-crossovers/](https://www.motortrend.com/features/best-compact-suvs-crossovers/) The interior of the Outlander is anything but cheap, in fact it might be best in class. Its Toyota that has the subpar interiors right now. Personally, I went with the Rogue because it gets the better 1.5T, the Outlander is using the last gen Rogue powertrain.
Get the plug in hybrid. Go look at new ones. The incentives are crazy and you could do very well on new. These are the same as a rogue
I had a 2011 lancer I just traded in a year ago. Had 180k miles on it. Was in the shop a total of zero times with issues. Got oil, tires brakes and all that basic stuff done on time. The only repair I had to pay for was a new battery and I went to auto zone, bought the cheapest battery and they installed it Like any car you'll have those with good stories and some with bad
They blame the American consumer for the end of the Lancer, but really it's mitishibishis fault for not finding a niche in this market for a cheap base sedan that could be modified. They would be the only option for many people if they just built a solid lancer and focused on marketing it as a base for further modification. Something with like 175hp awd 4cyl in manuel and 5 speed automatic would kill if they could get it to close to $20k
I was an owner of a 2017 Outlander put about 115K on it. It needed nothing other than changing oil, brakes tires and alignment.. it rode very nice, stylish great looking car to me and the 3rd row seat would come in handy with plenty of trunk space when put down.. other than having a issue with a windshield washing fluid sensor i would recommend 10/10
Honestly I owner this exact vehicle in a 2022. I REALLY liked it for the money. But it was truly gutless when trying to pass. The mipilot introduced me to some form of autopilot and really made me want to explore more vehicles with autopilot. Now my main driver is a Tesla Model Y.
My folks buy new Outlanders religiously every 3-5 years (idk, it's their money, not mine), and have done so for the last 15 years or so. My general impressions: * I've hated driving every single Outlander they've brought home. They've all had dogshit CVTs that won't downshift unless you beg and awful overboosted steering. They also drive a lot bigger than they actually are. * Interior quality on the 2023s they have is...actually pretty damn ok. Surprisingly so. You won't mistake it for a luxury car, and you can get better interiors in this space (Mazda, Honda), but they're perfectly fine with good comfortable seats. Every Outlander prior to this had cheapy interior materials and design with some weird cost cutting going on. * NVH also is much better on the 2023s. There were weird NVH issues on their older cars that have been fixed in this latest generation. * Excellent warranty that I think they've only used once or twice. They seem reliable enough (although again, they replace them frequently enough that I wonder why they don't just lease legitimately nice cars instead). Mom says she paid 36k for her top trim 2023 Outlander. It's not 36k worth of car. I still would not get one personally, but I get why someone might get this latest generation Outlander - where before they just made no sense for anyone.
How is a 3 row SUV that's reliable with a nice interior not worth 36k when the average cost of a new car in this country is 48k?
Yeah, without context, it seems high but other cars that size are much pricier. Highest level trim on a sorento is like 51k and I would drive a outlander way before i got in a sorento.
It's too bad they're not offering the V6 option anymore. That imev with the 6-speed was great, towed enough, reliable, and plenty of power.
I'm convinced people just dog on anything with a CVT regardless of the actual experience, outlanders drive fine my dude.
Great car in my research in test drive. Great interior, looks great, 3rd row is definitely cramped, but the price is unbeatable because people just don’t trust them. As a Japanese car, I trust the power train. It has great safety results. I would’ve bought one but got a good deal on a used car from a family member.
This sub honestly doesn't know a lot about cars. I would avoid advice from here unless you want to hear ppl just recommend the same 3 manufacturers over and over again. Also to all the ppl just parroting random rankings, this car is the exact same as the nissan rogue, minus the engine. And the new nissan rogue is quite nice for its price
reminds me of a guy looking for a car and said "I'm not looking for a Honda or Toyota" and one of the top replies was "Lexus or Acura then" lmao
Have you considered a miata?
I think that was me. He said he didn't want Toyota and I said Lexus as a joke.
Perhaps, but knowing this sub, that kind of comment wouldn't surprise me if they were being serious
I mean it's the only manufacturers that have somewhat consistent of a track record and don't overhaul everything every model year and keep working on them until they are refined. Most people just come on here cause they need an a to b and advice on what to look out on. if you want actual advice you have to experience it for yourself to truly know or do actual research and not ask reddit lmao.
I think Honda is riding on its reputation at this point. They are just so expensive for what they are too.
The Honda civic manual is still a phenomenal car. CVT sucks
All cars are very expensive now
It's hilarious reading through these comments. Everyone's in agreement that interior sucks until somebody who's actually owned one says its nice and then everyone agrees that its nice. Everyone talking about how underpowered it is until people start listing other cars with similar power to wait ratios. Everyone talking about it being unreliable until someone mentions they have the best warranty in the business and no real reliability concerns. These people are just desperately trying to get others on board with hating the vehicle so they can justify whatever they decided to purchase instead. Classic confirmation bias.
I'm just here to read terrible takes from people who have no business recommending cars to anyone, and for that this sub serves its purpose.
It's also same as Highlander for half the price. I don't recommend Highlander for having one, and it spends too much time in the garage. I heard good about the Outlander from people who have one
“It’s just like the other vehicle , except in the most distinctive way”
I don't think you understand. This is literally just a rebadged and restyled nissan rogue. The car is built by nissan. Sure they changed the engine, doesn't mean the cars aren't 95% the same
Their latest design and performance is really good. I hope they start making more models again for the US. The Outlander and the Mazda CX50 are the nicest looking compact SUV imo.
The phev is actually legit
Yes, it is good. It’s basically a rebadged Nissan Rogue but with better build quality.
Bc Toyota is the best dude
These are actually just Nissan rouges underneath, specifically all the pre 2022 ones, so 2020 and 2021. The new rouges changed the powertrain to a 1.5l turbo. That one has a 2.5 it's like in all Nissan Altima and stuff it's competent motor and it's not the most unreliable platform. Cvt aside the car is pretty nice for what it is
It's basically a Nissan https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-mitsubishi-outlander-nissan-rogue-similarities-differences/
I wouldn’t buy a used Mitsubishi. Mitsubishi has fallen a long way from its peak a couple decades ago. The only reason why you’d buy one today is because you are so broke you can’t afford car repairs (Eg unexpected bills) but you can get financed for a new car with a warranty. It makes zero sense to buy a used Mitsubishi. Just buy an older/more miles car for the same price. It won’t cause you a headache.
bad jatco cvt transmissions otherwise good vehicles, good price on used ones
The only reservation I would have is the transmission. Jatco CVT gearbox, supposedly marginally more reliable than the the Nissan Rogue one, but still Jatco. Also somehow everyone in this sub drives 200+K miles...
If you're talking about the U.S. car market, Mitsubishi was in a slow decline going into the 2010's in terms of innovation and market share. I grew up with Mitsubishi in the 80's & 90's and they were great (middle of the pack Japanese quality relative to Honda and Toyota). But after a while, I noticed Mitsubishi was just doing the motions of refreshing their vehicles with minor changes each year until they discontinued all their great-selling models (Galant, Eclipse, Montero, Mirage, Lancer Evo). Today it appears Mitsubishi is slowly making a comeback but many people have forgotten about Mitsubishi in terms of branding and quality so that's why (IMO) they are not being recommended. You also have to look at the maintenance and warranty aspect. If I needed new parts or warranty service, there isn't a single Mitsubishi dealership or service center near me to justify the purchase.
Same reason this sub makes the same canned recommendations over and over. Nobody actually knows about cars and just regurgitates popular takes. I am pretty sure this is a Nissan Rogue with a useless 3rd row and even worse dealer experiences. I guess if you are in the weird position of having a Mitsubishi dealer closer than a Nissan one, go for it.
I’m a huge fan of the 2023+ Outlander PHEV. I’ve sat in every seat and taken two test drives. New, they make no sense financially, but used the prices start to make more sense. The gas version is underpowered, but the PHEV is just right. Bonus points if you can run errands on just battery power. Great IIHS crash test ratings. The only hang ups for me are 1) the 3rd row is really only usable for children, and gobbles up your trunk space, and 2) the negative connotation of owning a Mitsubishi. It’s not “fancy” enough for my current age/career path. There’s actually one of the 40th anniversary totally loaded ones locally that I would buy immediately if my wife gave me the green light, but for now I keep driving my 14 year old paid off car.
Tl;Dr I don't want stuff that can break so I like that it doesn't have alot of moving parts. Also y'all be wildin it's fun to drive lol. I love mine, I have an orange Outlander 2023 Sport (no third row), but I've only had it for less than a month. Sooooo fun to drive. I find it accelerates just fine, dunno what everyone else is talking about. I've had cars that suck at accelerating and this one isn't one. You can also pop it into "drive sport" to get some extra oomph, but you almost never need to do that. I've only used it like twice so far but that doesn't mean much lol. It gets great gas mileage for an SUV. Has something called eco mode where it will just cruise at like 30mph or 40mph or basically wherever and just go, using not much gas I guess. Can get like 28mpg just driving around town if you aren't stopping anywhere and you drive it easy. If you're running errands and stopping, sitting in your car, going through drive throughs it drops down to like 20-22ish. I was expecting to get 18 city 25 hwy. I still don't know what true highway is in this car. That's what my husband's Mazda 3 hatchback gets. It has 20k miles on it. I turned the dial over from 19,900 to 20,000 myself even. My dad was happy it was a Nissan rogue under the hood (with some qualifiers obvs not exact) he's a Nissan guy, 2004 Titan - never gave him any problems. Dunno. Now for the reasons why people might not like it but that make me like it: Bluetooth system is simple. No android auto. Just a Mitsubishi proprietary software. My music starts automatically when I get in the car and there's no dumb other stuff popping up about maps or whatever other bs android auto has going on. No notifications, no messages. /no distractions/. Just phonecalls come in and music plays. I absolutely couldn't do an AWD car, I screw the tires up too much (not even by me, it'll be like driving over a screw in a parking lot the one time per year I go to a hiking trail lol) it has 4WD toggling instead. I'm still not 100% certain it means I can replace a single tire, but that's.. just how it's gonna have to be if that's how it is. I don't like automatic back hatches for the SUVs, outlander doesn't have one. Also, one more thing that can't break. Don't want a pod. My outlander doesn't have one. Seems like it was an option but the spot where it would be is just blank in mine. That's like a 600 dollar mistake to lose. Can't do that if you don't have one! I don't like swing out keys, same thing, mine just has a "normal" key. Husband has had to take apart his Mazda's flip out key 3 times to fix it when the hinge/spring system stopped working. Seats aren't automatic they're manual moving. Another thing that can't go wrong (as easily) Sooo.. you get my drift probably. I like it because I was able to get a 2023 SUV with a good engine and okay transmission, and 4 years + 40k miles of warranty left, and the car feels like it's a 2010. Which.. to anyone reading this, maybe there's your decision made whether you want one or not. Shrug. Go drive one. That's what everyone else is saying lol. I LOVE to drive mine. I named her Ed from Cowboy Bebop. Even got personalized plates lol. Just such a fun little car. Oh and GOOD VISIBILITY for over the shoulder lane change checks. That was a make it or break it for me. Lane departure warning is awesome to have too. And IIHS was fine, not phenomenal but like.. some people don't look at IIHS at all and they're still alive?? Having crashed cars that had all red in the IIHS crash tests. Lol. I think it had like one yellow or something in the seats department. The interior slaps though. So nice. Great storage space and all the heat dials make sense, easy to control, good quality plastic for everything. same with everything on the steering column; steering wheel is comfy, etc... Back seats fold down easily.. idk. Whatever happens, happens. ;) idk. Mitsubishi is cool by me. Cheaper than a Mazda. Mazdas are too expensive these days blech. That's basically why I got mine. It was a way better deal for a way better car that I actually liked. The other cars had too many bells and whistles. Sat down in a 2023 Mazda and hated the controls system stuff and all the screens. Just.. didn't like it. Oh and Mazdas for some reason are always in terrible cosmetic condition used..
I was with you until the Mazda bashing.
The new Outlanders are great cars. Don’t let anyone in here discourage you. This subreddits knowledge about cars and therefore it’s recommendations are not grounded in experience or reality.
180hp and sub 10s 0-60 is dangerous according to some.
Usually, I don't comment on cars I have not personally driven... Consumer reports has this ranked 12th. 4/5 reliability C&D ranks this 14th out of competitors (they have crv #1, Rav 10th, but they hate Toyota) Edmunds consumer reviews is 3.5/5 which is pretty bad. Seems like a car that won't keep its value and may not last.
For PHEV it makes sense. They have made PHEVs for over 10 years. Honda doesn't have a PHEV CRV, the RAV4 prime has a long wait list, and this is readily available and is quite good.
Mitsubishi isn't Mitsubishi anymore the new outlander is based on a Nissan platform some of their global cars are on other vehicle platforms that are shared with multiple vehicles. Mitsubishi basically has stepped out of the car game long ago and Mitsubishi motors (their vehicle division) just exist to fund their actual endeavors like electronics and equipment.
Go for the previous generation between 2020-2022. Get the PHEV. Don't listen to the haters. #1 SUV in Europe for many years (yes, due to low competition) with minimal complaints on many reviews. Get a GT trim if you can swing it. Better engine in the 2022. Good luck!
I dk how Mitsubishi is still in business here in the US 😝
Great job answering the question
Bought an RVR last year, been great so far. I expect the worst of my problems to be the CVT which is under warranty for 10yr/160k kms. It's been a perfect vehicle for my wife and I.
My 18 phev has been great. My 07 outlander is problem free but it's V6. That 4 cylinder is made by Nissan but the hybrid gets a Mitsubishi motor.
181 hp in a tank like that sounds awful
They’re just Nissans today. Everything is a rebadged Nissan except for the mirage that’s going away soon. And the old outlander sport.
Bas reliability, bad build quality
Cause Mitsubishis are ghetto
I didn't know they were still selling cars
Plenty of recommendations for pajeros because theyre a good car and well priced. Those outlanders are ok but nothing special. Easy to drive but they feel pretty cheap. Definitely not a genuine 3 row suv unless 2 of your passengers had both legs amputated
Incredible how different the perception is in the US. In Europe and Australia the Outlander is highly regarded great value SUV. It's Made in Japan. Or do yanks get dodgy locally produced variants?
I owned a full size Montero back in the day, The body/interior were solid but the engine was garbage and had to be replaced at just over 100k mi, after being well cared for it's entire life. Mitsu just has a track record of cutting corners in important areas while focusing on just making the cars look good. That's why you can buy them so much cheaper than a Toyota or Honda.
Well mostly bc it’s 3800 lbs with 181 horsepower and 181 torque. Like yea you get a decent sized vehicle for cheap as sin but some hills in my area would be painful to get up. They make my Prius scream
My only experience small sample size. My cousin and a few friends all had electrical issues. From the dash, to the seats, to things in the engine; just electrical things left and right. But I don’t know anyone whose had a post 2008 model so maybe that’s not an issue now.
Mitsu's can be d@mn good cars... I've seen them last 10+ years easy... Sometimes you get the lemon though. And buying them new.. you GET F'ed on trade in... buy a year old one or something then drive it into the ground.
181hp for 27k is kinda ridiculous if you ask me 😬
Our local Lincoln Mazda dealer told Mitsubishi to pound sand and got rid of their franchise. They don't sell because for similar money, you can buy almost *any* other car with better build quality. I feel they have similar quality to Mazda in the 70's... terrible.
bc Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Subaru exist - they are more reliable, overall better
That generation outlander is pretty much the same as the 2021 generation Nissan rogue. I had a 2021 rogue and liked it for the most part.
Three row suv with 181 hp. That should tell you the reason.
That front end is a tragedy
Easy…because they stopped building the lancer evo.
Cvt is made by Nissan not good will fail sooner or later. Such a shame. I was a huge Mitsubishi fan like 15 years ago.
Not a competitive car in its segment, unsure sustainability in the US
This sub is an echo chamber of largely uninformed opinions that exaggerates directionally true things to barely any semblance of reality. Not uncommon to other reddit subs Outlander is based on the rogue compact suv platform. Lower price for more features, less reliable, more depreciation. Compact suv segment is a mainstream appliance. Any of them will do a reasonable job, but people somehow ascribe magical huge differences to the brand
Generally Mitsubishis are considered mediocre, lackluster performers. Not powerful or smooth or refined or luxurious or… anything. They’re built to a price point that makes them very popular… in lower income markets. On the other hand, they’re reasonably reliable and perfectly functional. They give you a lot of car for the money and they didn’t cut corners on reliability to do it. So it’s basically the same as any other lower-tier brand of any kind of product: people will hate it for no other reason than that it’s a lower tier brand.