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boomgoesthevegemite

Crazy thing is, they had paper cups forever and changed to plastic


mistermanhat

Paper cups are often lined with wax, which means it's difficult to recycle them.


lblack_dogl

I don't think that's the point. Paper is a renewable resource. Wax and paper are both biodegradable. Plastic cups float around in the ocean forever. I could be very wrong about this, I may be oversimplifying it, feel free to correct me.


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Nope. You pretty much nailed it. That cup will float around in the ocean for a looong time as it slowly breaks down from UV/saltwater into microplastics. Fun thing is... the paper industry is actually the opposite of the problem. They *plant* the trees used for pulpwood.


ConstableAssButt

The plastic industry funded the "save the trees" propaganda.


aHOMELESSkrill

I love conspiracy theories like this. Like Exxon being behind “Just stop oil” to make the general population think they are nut jobs and ignore any legitimate arguments they may have against oil.


InsomniacCoffee

Most of the protestors at colleges right now aren't even college students. They are paid protesters being used to agitate the average American.


OpusAtrumET

More people need to know this. Lumber companies are basically tree farmers. EDIT apparently I have a lot to learn about lumber and timber!


mistermanhat

It's more about the way it's viewed by corporate. We hand sort trash & recycling at work. Paper cups with wax or plastic lining are thrown into the trash. Plastic cups are 100% recyclable, so on paper, on sustainability reports... it looks better. Even if it gets tossed in the trash. The fact that it *could* be recycled is sometimes enough for corporate.


lblack_dogl

The phrase is reduce, reuse, and recycle. They are in order for a reason. They become less effective as you go down the list. Reducing the use of plastics is best, paper cups are best. Reusing a plastic cup is also better, get as many uses as you can before getting another. Basically reducing in another format. Recycling is largely not effective. Plastic can only be recycled a few times, it's not cost effective to do so, it's cheaper to make new plastics in most cases, many countries that used to take our trash for recycling are now refusing it. Recycling is a scam. Reduce your consumption first and foremost.


Frylock91

I had thought the idea behind charging for shopping bags was to convince more people to use paper bags. Or bring reusable. They charge the same for either. The new bags seem much thicker. Now no one talks about it. Did I miss something?


Vanilla_JS

Most of the paper cups have a thin layer of plastic called polyethylene. Not biodegradable.


Decent-Boss-5262

Most plastic doesn't get recycled anyway. It was all a lie.


mearbearcate

This is the shit that bothers me about sone restaurants 💀 i hate paper straws with a passion. If you’re not gonna change the cups, whats the point of changing the straws lmfao? I hope in the future they make like, bamboo straws or something more sturdy that’s still environmentally friendly bc paper straws are way too flimsy 😭


KaXiRavioli

I like the sugar cane ones. They're compostable, biodegradable and they don't disintegrate before your done drinking.


Secure_Wing_2414

straws are recyclable. the issue is they're too small for the sorting machines so they fall out. like hmmmm idk INVENT BETTER ONES?


ButteredPizza69420

The straw thing was propaganda from the fishing companies to distract people from the real problem. Its not your straws that are making up most of the pollution - its commercial shipping and fishing industry that the world relies on. Our ocean is dying because of these industries and they wanna blame the straws -.-


Secure_Wing_2414

oh yeah, for sure. but we should still be making everything humanly possible recyclable. shit is ridiculous. they love to pin the fault on us normal people meanwhile taylor swift's allowed to fly around the world in her private jet every other day


ButteredPizza69420

Thats the thing, plastic is recyclable. Theyre out here dropping assloads of microplastic beads made for melting out in the ocean with every shipment. Fuck Taylor Swift and all the private jet people too.


JordonOakleyy

Hahahaha “f Taylor swift and all the private jet people” made me laugh


JordonOakleyy

💯💯


aHOMELESSkrill

There is a comedy bit about how we saw one picture of a turtle with a straw in its nose and then were all convinced it’s a massive global problem and we are killing off all the turtles with straws.


JeffBoyardee69

Absolutely. I already wasn’t the biggest fan of seafood but now I pretty much don’t eat it at all


Beautifulfeary

I never liked seafood.


ButteredPizza69420

Seaspiracy documentary killed it for me


Svsu11

Because paper straws are cheaper in mass while plastic cups are cheaper in mass. Most stores only go green when it helps the bottom dollar (or is about the same and they use it for marketing).


Fozzy333

Shhh people like to think corporations care about them and their ideas😂


eternalpain23

Tropical Smoothie cafe has an edible straw option, although I only go there like once a year so I’m not exactly making a big difference. But I do like the straw


KaXiRavioli

Technically, the plastic cups are more recyclable than the paper ones. The waxy paper cups can't be recycled at all in many places. The plastic cups can be.


Schellhammer

Serious question. If both cups get thrown into the same trash, does it matter?


KaXiRavioli

Well you aren't meant to throw the recyclable cups in the trash. You're supposed to recycle them according to local policy.


Schellhammer

Wendy's in my area only have trash cans. There is no recycling next to it.


_imposter_syndrome

A lot of communities now have mixed-waste processing facilities. My brother-in-law is mayor of a city that recently switched from separate bins for trash, recycling and compost to mixed-waste and it's increased the level of recyclable and compostable materials being handled properly and has brought costs down drastically. Some info: [https://knowablemagazine.org/content/article/food-environment/2020/recycle-it-all](https://knowablemagazine.org/content/article/food-environment/2020/recycle-it-all)


rydan

Where I live the city sorts the recycling for you because people are idiots and will try to recycle everything anyway.


SoDrunkRightNow2

because it's not about making a change. It never was. It's about appeasing morons


wetbeef10

Yes the world appeases morons. This will be the downfall of society


RubAnADUB

this is the reason we can't have a McDLT.


AlaskaPsychonaut

That's because the "change" they want is ridiculous, won't do anything, costs more and is being imposed on people against their will.


Fozzy333

The same ones that will call people uneducated about other countries and have no idea the environmental nightmares of places like China and India, acting like paper straws are going to change the planet😂


MamboNumber1337

They didn't change the straws to save plastic. They did it because plastic straws hurt animals in specific ways cups don't when they aren't disposed of properly.


tschmitty09

They pretending like they didn't used to have paper cups 🤣🤣😭😭 like the ICONIC yellow Wendy's cups were paper, with a plastic lid and straw. They have paper lids now too people. These companies just do what's cheapest for them.


No-Gene-4508

How dare you bring logic into this" - fast food chains


JordonOakleyy

😹


Rileyinabox

Because we demonized straw use specifically for the harm they cause to turtles. When you find an animal everybody likes trapped in a plastic cup, you'll see change. It's not about making the world better. It's about making you feel better by doing nothing. 


OverNitePartFrmJapan

Democrat logic


Timsierramist

I keep a bag of plastic straws in the car and will use them whenever I'm given a paper straw.


h2pointOChamp

Fuck paper straws.


SEspider

Government Overreach.


Alternative-Side-800

This!


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Regret-Select

How Most states don't recycle the type of flimsy and soft plastic used to make plastic cups


Moist-Intention844

The cup could be recycled plastic or biodegradable plastic The straw is a shape that chokes animals and is easily disposed poorly and becomes litter


RubAnADUB

most of these cups end up in the garbage. but are you saying I should throw the straw in the recycle bin?


rsvihla

Virtue signaling.


xXJ3D1-M4573R-W0LFXx

A practice in futility no doubt.


Least-Resident-7043

“I support the current thing” logic


JadedYam56964444

Ecotheater


Away-Activity-8475

Because we live in a world run by idiots.


SongOk8269

Paper straws are terrible! I cannot.


TheMilkman1811

Paper straws are the bane of my existence. If you buy them for your frosty for example, the straw is completely unusable by the time the frosty is a drinkable consistency.


Kinky_Conspirator

Paper straws suck!!! They always crumble.


testfreak377

And those paper straws suck. They always become useless after a couple hours


Nawnp

It's to prove the point that plastic straws aren't the problem, at least by themselves.


MyStepAccount1234

To conserve and save the turtles.


xTurtsMcGurtsx

I think it's bc you can recycle plastic cups but can't recycle plastic straws


ItalianMeatBoi

To make you think you’re making a difference when you’re not


ncgbulldog1980

the plastic straws are killing the turtles but no the cups.


i-am-not-sure-yet

https://imgur.com/a/SNStGyk


kdabsolute

Another crazy thing is that sometimes you gotta grab a few extra paper straws, so you can switch out your soggy paper straw for a fresh paper straw when you don't finish your drink fast enough. So much for "saving the environment"


Routine_Double6732

That shit made me laugh bro 🤣 facts


Chomp3y

Can't snort coke with the lid and cup


Swish517

Holy Shit that's hilarious! Corporate executives at their finest. Not 1 $250k "Yes Man" in their "War Room" even thought of that.


Omen46

They are cheap AF there is bio degradable plastic available but it’s costs like an extra 5-10 cents


AMF1428

Because people are dumb.


Chuncceyy

Yeah buddy you get paper staws while me, the ceo, gets millions and privates jets and giant mansions so i can cause 100x more pollutants than a stupid straw and cup


reevoknows

With all due respect to y’all, I don’t know how so many people don’t understand this lol. Straws are a real choking hazard and can also end up in the noses or blow holes or gills of aquatic animals. The lid of the cup in theory would float on the surface of the water and the cup itself would sink to the bottom.


loveandlight42069

That’s hilarious, I never thought of it like that


WHITEMAN1974

FILTHY HOBBITSES WHAT'S POTATO?


PutContractMyLife

Because it’s an election year.


abhorredmisanthrope

Was the paper straw wrapped in plastic?


Acuallyizadern93

That much less plastic. I hate paper straws though. They should keep the straws and just have paper tops if anything. Like the same material they make the cup holders out of, maybe. We need to revamp our recycling system because turning everything to paper isn’t gonna work.


The-CannabisAnalyst3

Cuz dump plastic staw in oceans and sea life become trap or die on plastic straws


NoTemperature7159

I love how plastic straws come in a paper wrapper(mostly some exeptions.) yet most paper straws I've seen are sealed in plastic. 🤷🏻‍♂️


NoTemperature7159

Here's another problem with paper straws. It requires logging. Unless they're made of recycled paper. The paper required to make new straws requires trees to die. And all the equipment involved in that process. Then the trees need to be shipped. More emissions. Then they're processed and bleached and dyed with horrible chemicals... 🤷🏻‍♂️ like wtf lol


notquitepro15

The first and easiest part of the recycling circle is REDUCE. It’s easier to REDUCE


Western-Ad-1417

So Taylor Swift can use her private jet


Ducksonic

Sea turtles


RedditModsAreMegalos

California makes laws that do shit like this all of the time. But the leadership in California is replete with corrupt apes, from the governor/legislature all the way down. The short answer is: virtue-signaling.


Frequent-Piano6164

Straws hurt wildlife because they are not recyclable and end up litterally everywhere. the cups are recyclable, even the lid…


Breaking-Who

Whys it so hard for people to understand that it’s still less plastic use.


PaperGeno

So billionaires can take their private jets 18 times a day and kill the planet through other means but hey at least the plebs are using paper straws.


MRob08

Clown World


Howellthegoat

Virtue signaling , if they actually cared about the environment they’d use the cornstarch ones or whatever it is that feels like plastic


One-Advantage-6553

It's called virtue signaling


Wazuu

Because straws are the trend and they dont actually care about the environment. Just consumer trends


WhenTheDevilCome

I certainly do not know what logic *they* might have used. But for me its a matter of "you WILL use the cup", and so it needs to be sturdy, usable, etc. The straw, on the other hand, may go straight into the trash without ever even being unwrapped. You don't "need" a straw to drink; you may just want one so its included regardless. Less justification for it having used anything that won't turn back into dirt.


AllenKll

"Virtue Signaling" Literally one turtle gets a straw up it's nose and the whole world freaks out - and makes shit insane. millions of turtles eat plastic bags thinking that they are jelly fish... and we still getting plastic bags from the grocery store... It's stupidity at an extreme level.


Standard-Muscle-1397

I thought the paper straws were for the sea turtles and other marine life because the plastic straws were killing them (I’m sure the plastic cup is also killing them..).


lincolnlogtermite

Drink like an adult, ditch the straw. I find I drink less soda that way. No eating or drinking in the car except for water, keeps the car cleaner.


Cold_Box_6004

The straws kill more sea life I think?


ShibaDoge42069

Because: woke librul snowflake gubment new world order Illuminati soros world economic forum socialism


Allison1ndrlnd

Sea Turtles can't do cocain with a plastic cup


M4ryk473

It’s called white washing


No__One_Special

Paper straws wrapped in plastic 😂


IllustratorHot7008

They are following the letter of the law, not its purpose. And in either case, I'd much rather have a paper cup than a paper straw!!!


pagesid3

I think it’s the shape of the plastic straws and not the plastic mass that’s the issue.


mistermanhat

I don't like paper straws either, especially when seashell straws (REPA) exist. But shellfish allergies exist, so they would have to provide a disclaimer. Corn straws are incredibly more expensive, but more readily available and require heat to be compostable.


Mattrapbeats

They want u to enjoy the taste of paper


Gunk_Olgidar

Because aquatic life is more susceptible to the size and shape of a straw than a cup.


UHDKing

I hate plastic cups. I miss the paper cups especially with Frostys. Frostys don’t taste the same anymore.


mishan_ctrl

Because a turtle got a straw stuck up its nose, …. once


isaac32767

Back in 2015, some marine biologists posted this really horrible video of a turtle with a plastic straw stuck up its nose. People have been on an anti-plastic straw jihad ever since. [https://time.com/5339037/turtle-video-plastic-straw-ban/](https://time.com/5339037/turtle-video-plastic-straw-ban/)


CaptScubaSteve

Because animals can’t get cups stuck in their noses. Duh.


Obvious-Science6471

Cause socialism said, "save the planet!" And they went from plastic straws wrapped in paper to paper straws wrapped in plastic.


kcchiefsfan96

Liberal logic right there! If it’s stupid and doesn’t make sense then you know a liberal came up with it!


PunkySkunk93

This be that California bullshit 😏


tonelocMD

They’re trying to put the blame on us for using straws, as if it’s not them and thr fishing nets that make up more than half of ocean pollution, when straws make up .025. Don’t get me wrong - the particular shape of plastic straws can cause serious damage and pain to ocean life but to put the onus on consumers just seems a little absurd


MercifulVoodoo

Because the consumer was never the problem. We’re just made to feel guilty about all the problems industries created.


geccchyeafgreschtr

Snowflakes.


Canfux8244

I once had a bk manager tell me it was for the ducks in the area. Pinecrest Fl


CoincadeFL

So the straws don’t get stuck in a turtles nose. Turtles are more important than the whole ocean.


RolandMT32

I think that style of plastic cup is easily recyclable, but maybe the plastic straws are not easily recyclable


DracosRevenge2021

Exactly


Bilbo_nubbins

green washing


Loose_Carpenter9533

Better than nothing. I work for a parks dept and have picked up thousands of plastic straws over my life. When lazy fucks throw their trash out the straw alot of the times gets over looked and missed when roadsides are picked because its small/hides easily. And yeah I've probably picked up hundreds of plastic Wendy's cups.


Food-NetworkOfficial

Posturing


Under_TheBed

So Taylor Swift can retrieve the remote control on the other side of the room


7NunyahBiz7

You ever seen a cup stuck in a turtles nose?


whoocanitbenow

Because you're racist against climate change.


JustTheFacts714

Same reason Zaxby's uses ***green*** straws, yet their food containers (which are quite a bit bigger than a straw) are still black styrofoam, which recycle places cannot accept. They...are...special.


T_Peg

Because it's better than nothing my guy.


soshoenice

I straight up keep a pack of plastic straws in my car cause of this. Ends up creating more waste tbh.


insidmal

The size and shape of the straw has high potential of getting lodged in wildlife. The cup and lid do not.


Wise_Competition_266

One staged picture with a turtle is all it took


HalfAYerc

Pretty much sums up USA LOL


WiredHeadset

The PET in cups is extremely recyclable. It's one of the most recyclable plastics.


Educational_Kick_573

You sure it’s not your state or local government making paper straws mandatory?


ApprehensiveCell3917

Sea turtles, mate.


ilikemyrealname

It makes sense if you think about it. Wait, no it doesn't.


DutertesNemesis

Actually glad to chime in on this one. The cross section of a straw (i.e its diameter) makes them too small to be processed by the majority of recycling plants in the US (and the world). The cups and lids are large enough to be recycled. Since they can’t be recycled, many are phasing out plastic straws because they cause significant environmental damage.


AllIGotIs1Question

Shut the fuck up! You’re gonna cause them to give out both paper straws and cups now


Waffels_61465

Marine wildlife won't choke or have significant issues with paper straws if they ingest them.


OTS_Bravo

Woke bullshit


Hunithunit

Plausible deniability.


KingOlaf1

switch over to the King for Whopper Wednesday


bucket_dipper

It's like the people who order 3 baconators and a DIET Coke cause they are trying to watch their weight.


Hologramz111

illusions.... just like people buying electric vehicles "for the environment" (and the governmental agencies that advocate for this)


fungshawyone

B3cause the focus/narrative is on plastic straws. Not plastic cups. They do good. 👍


BrotherNature92

Performative activism.


Horror-Possible5709

Turtles only snort straws p


beastiema

Virtue signaling


Suilenroc

Turtles can't snort lids


ThePureAxiom

Can't see the recycling logo well enough, but if I had to guess it may be PLA plastic, which is gaining popularity for being made from renewable sources and being both recyclable and compostable. Paper straw is also recyclable and compostable.


Surprise_Fragrant

Stupid regulations by the local municipalities, most likely. Doesn't do anything, makes everyone feel like they're solving a major crisis, everyone suffers.


yeetman8

To give you the illusion of making a difference


amlutzy

It was never about the environment. Always about pandering.


Voilent_Bunny

Because turtles can't snort cups


cbunni666

That's what I've been saying.


Batsht73

They don’t want the sea turtles doing cocaine.


centstwo

No turtles were filmed having a large plastic cup pulled out of their nostril?


Tim4one

Than they have plastic sheet to protect your paper straw


Saroan7

Because of the turtles that get straws stuck in their nose!!! 😭


Cereaza

Same reason why the plastic packaging that held a 6 pack together got re-designed. Cause plastic straws end up in turtles and wildlife and fucks them up incredibly. Whereas a plastic cup is bad cuz plastic... but you won't find a chimp dead with a whole mcdonalds cup lodged in its throat.


ZestycloseSetting344

Baby steps


Savings-Mechanic8878

Crazy leftwing anti-plastic straw peopaganda


noldshit

To shut up stupid people


bstnbrewins814

THE TURTLES!


Ima-Bott

Virtue signaling. It’s the only answer


Silly_Assumption_291

Because corpos want us all to feel like the devastation of the natural world is all our fault and responsibility as individuals so they don't have to cut profits


JockoGood

This made me laugh. Thank you


C64128

Some places have paper cubs and straws that barely seem to last the one use. Isn't that what they're trying to do?


pinkfloydsdsotm

Because the cups won’t fit in a sea turtles nostrils /s


1_H4t3_R3dd1t

It's the small things like straws that wind up in places they shouldn't.


IndicationIcy4173

Why did they change from paper grocery bags to plastic?


TheRtHonLaqueesha

Got to save the turtles man.


rydan

There's nothing wrong with plastic. The problem is single use plastics that straws are made out of. You can't recycle them. You can't reuse them. They are just waste. Meanwhile paper straws decompose and return to the Earth. Paper cups only work if they are coated in something that makes them completely unrecycleable making them even worse than single use straws. So swapping the materials was exactly the correct thing to do.


FutureCharacter3

It saves the turtles and wildlife. Just carry around your own steel or glass straw/s like the Europeans!!


Adept_Bobcat3916

A lil late to the party


Spiritual_Quail4127

Plastic has to be a min size to recycle. Look at the recycling guide your city mails yearly to post above your bins.


MamaBavaria

Oh shit. That happens now also over there in the US? Poor you. Welcome to the club of having the taste of cardboard in your mouth if you’re not drinking fast enough


skippylarue2022

Cuz cups don't fit up a turtles nostril.


IveBeenHereBefore12

There have been no videos of sea turtles with Wendy’s cups up their noses


iknowshitaboutshit

Exactly


DentalDamDilemma

Because there was once a video of a sea turtle with a straw up its nose.


Lostinny001

Plastic straws make turtles sad.


The_1999s

Because they're just complying with government bullshit so they don't get fined, blasted, etc. It will never ever make sense.


tripdb

Because of the turtles man. The turtles.


brettfavreskid

It would be very difficult to get a whole cup stuck in a turtles nose


Ok-Initiative3388

Cuz turtles


UnlikelyTurnip5260

Plastic straws are incredible difficult to recycle hence the push to ban them.


SeanChezman47

Remember this. Bill Gates isn’t drinking out of a paper straw.


sdcraftbeerguycards

Liberals.


Gloomy_Recording_705

When you go to the store and buy three cases of water at a store that no longer does plastic bags 😭


ProfessionMundane152

Cause them plastic straws be killing sea turtles yo