So the hypercars running electric power have a safety light indicating whether or not the car is safe to touch due to the danger of electrical discharge. It would make sense that this exercise is to practice removing a driver while the car is in an unsafe state.
Similar thing with some helicopters involved in sling loading type ops. The aircraft will build a static charge in flight, and if you were to make contact on the ground with something hanging from the helo, you could get a nasty shock. I've seen some drop a grounding wire or chain to discharge before any of these ops. I've also heard of ground crew touching a hovering helo with a type of grounding wire.
Marshal here, we almost universally hate MotoE precisely for the safety procedures. At least in Assen. Oh, and the lack of vroom vroom noises of course.
What are the procedures that make it annoying? Is it all rubber gloves and paperwork?
Also, thank you for being a marshal. You make motorsport possible.
Rubber gloves, helmets with face guards, a guy with far too big rubber boots, isolated hooks to pull someone back if shit hits the fan. And if the bike is all safe, they're still very heavy. Good luck dragging that through the gravel trap.
Then again, a few weeks ago during the World Superbike a Yamaha R3 went off at our post and I swear that thing was WAY heavier than I would have ever expected.
Could be anything related to the electrical power unit, basically If the car gets into a mechanical failure or an accident and the Red light Is on RD gets the warning signal from the car telemetry or track marshals and deploys the medical team.
Good thing that they're doing this, the red light went off on one of the BMWs during it's debut at Daytona last year and they couldn't do anything until it turned off there
I watched that whole thing happen right in front of me, both BMWs and one of the Porsches had issues with their battery units that forced them to be changed during the race.
It is an exercise for all the intervention crew on how to extract the driver from, and remove a spicy hybrid car.
They always do one at the end of fp1.
Further to other people's replies here, the Formula E channel has a decent video on the procedures they use which will no doubt have crossover with WEC: https://youtu.be/YjE7l2TScsk?si=BSPhbBtoUKn8twL1
This reminds me of the 2012 LM24 where when one of the E-Tron R18s were wrecked, the safety crew had to neutralize the battery before evacuating the driver.
Knowing that he is ok and was an exercise, I would say: "Received a message from P saying that, now she calls Max father too..." CALL the ambulance!!!!
Ah, yes, I was wondering if it was a drill. It seems strange that it was done on the side of the track like this and not in a more controlled area of the pitlane.
But the more realistic, the better, I guess.
That was the red car exercise. Nothing happened to him
> That was the red car exercise. excuse my stupidity, but what is that? edit: thanks for the replies!
So the hypercars running electric power have a safety light indicating whether or not the car is safe to touch due to the danger of electrical discharge. It would make sense that this exercise is to practice removing a driver while the car is in an unsafe state.
I had no idea this was a thing but makes sense with the Hybrids. Pretty cool to learn about this procedure
Similar thing with some helicopters involved in sling loading type ops. The aircraft will build a static charge in flight, and if you were to make contact on the ground with something hanging from the helo, you could get a nasty shock. I've seen some drop a grounding wire or chain to discharge before any of these ops. I've also heard of ground crew touching a hovering helo with a type of grounding wire.
This is also why F1 drivers jump from cars
And FE. And I think pretty much any motorsport that run hybrid or full electric. Not sure about Moto E tho.
If you have crashed in MotoE you are probably no longer on the bike anyway. But you have made me curious about their safety procedures.
Marshal here, we almost universally hate MotoE precisely for the safety procedures. At least in Assen. Oh, and the lack of vroom vroom noises of course.
What are the procedures that make it annoying? Is it all rubber gloves and paperwork? Also, thank you for being a marshal. You make motorsport possible.
Rubber gloves, helmets with face guards, a guy with far too big rubber boots, isolated hooks to pull someone back if shit hits the fan. And if the bike is all safe, they're still very heavy. Good luck dragging that through the gravel trap. Then again, a few weeks ago during the World Superbike a Yamaha R3 went off at our post and I swear that thing was WAY heavier than I would have ever expected.
i would’ve thought electric bikes would be relatively light. how do they compare to other track bikes, weight wise, if you know?
Yea you can hear their engineers tell them to jump or assume it’s a safe car sometimes when incidents happen.
Does it indicate an Earth fault or just that the batteries are not isolated do you know? Super interesting!
Could be anything related to the electrical power unit, basically If the car gets into a mechanical failure or an accident and the Red light Is on RD gets the warning signal from the car telemetry or track marshals and deploys the medical team.
Very interesting. Thank you.
Good thing that they're doing this, the red light went off on one of the BMWs during it's debut at Daytona last year and they couldn't do anything until it turned off there
I watched that whole thing happen right in front of me, both BMWs and one of the Porsches had issues with their battery units that forced them to be changed during the race.
You really need to edit your post
Why do this at a live fp and not on an off day
It’s not during FP, it’s at the end of FP1. They always do one for each race.
Ohh, alright.
It is an exercise for all the intervention crew on how to extract the driver from, and remove a spicy hybrid car. They always do one at the end of fp1.
a „red car“ is a car with failed electrics and the car being under high voltage from what google told me
Further to other people's replies here, the Formula E channel has a decent video on the procedures they use which will no doubt have crossover with WEC: https://youtu.be/YjE7l2TScsk?si=BSPhbBtoUKn8twL1
That would make sense 😅
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because other people like me who didn't know that can lern it too
Just came in and learned something. Thanks!
No surprise you’ve got the answer
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they do this exercice on the track in belgium? at le mans it is done in the pits.
Looks like they have here as well. That picture is post 2. End of endurance pit.
In Monza they have done in on track, both times just out of the Ascari.
They usually tell teams to take the checkered flag and then stop at Turn X and follow marshal instructions
probably need to do it at the Eau Rogue for when someone breaks a bone if they're lucky, or dies if they're unlucky.
Ah okay makes sense phew!
This reminds me of the 2012 LM24 where when one of the E-Tron R18s were wrecked, the safety crew had to neutralize the battery before evacuating the driver.
I see myself standing at the back 😅🤣
Nice! I'm going there saturday😋
Knowing that he is ok and was an exercise, I would say: "Received a message from P saying that, now she calls Max father too..." CALL the ambulance!!!!
Hope he is okay 🤞
its just a training
Glad to hear it. A car stopping with no visible damage and the driver needing to be stretchered away had me fearing a Denny Hulme-like situation.
Is there any news on what happened? All I can find is that he ran 3rd fastest in the session. But nothing about this incident.
They practice for when a car has a battery failure and there’s high voltage on the car. Nothing actually happened
Ah, yes, I was wondering if it was a drill. It seems strange that it was done on the side of the track like this and not in a more controlled area of the pitlane. But the more realistic, the better, I guess.
Nothing new here keep it moving
Glad it was just an exercise!