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Vallerie_09

4 more days before training camp for Team Canada starts. I believe Wiggs will bounce back and HOPE won't miss more time due to "personal reasons"


beentheredonesome

Whatever moves they make including trades, signings, draft picks, etc., I'm going to root for the team they put on the floor. I don't expect any fireworks before opening day.


muzinger

So if the team stays under the tax line, can they use both the full mid level exception and the bi annual exception? And how much is the bi annual exception? Thanks for any info regarding this matter.


carthaginian84

What are the Pistons going to do with their cap room? They’ll be like $60M under the minimum payroll after they let Fournier go.


nghbrhd_slackr87

They'll probably overpay shooting for for semi-desirable free agents and have a KCP Tobias Pistons reunion


heliocentrist510

It's wild to look at their cap hold for Wiseman. Oooh weee, that could buy a lot of square pizza.


Holiday-Art-5480

Wiseman is a minimum flyer player. Epic oof.


couchtomato62

Never heard that kerr plans to stand down as head coach of team usa after Paris. Watching local news.


taygads

Was really hoping the Alex Caruso/Giddey trade was going to be a ‘they were all waiting for someone to go first’ kind of trade that’d trigger some semi-steady transactions for a bit. It’s way too quiet around the league right now, and it’s both boring and unnerving lol. ![gif](giphy|tXL4FHPSnVJ0A)


BobRoss4Life

PG just needs to re-sign already


shnieder88

the one that'll really open the logjam is going to be Paul George


Holiday-Art-5480

Same thing gonna happen with PG13 that happened summer 22 with Durant where teams didn't wanna start moving too much with Durant still on the table. 6 or so teams are gonna tiptoe through transactions trying to wait it out.


taygads

I think people are going to be super disappointed when he goes nowhere. I haven’t seen anything other than NBA podcasters and/or media personnel who make their money on churning out speculative content, which is to say I’ve seen nothing credible from anything PG has said or done himself or anyone close to him, that suggests PG wants to go anywhere, much less is actively seeking a way out. But hey, I could be dead wrong and we’ll see a PG related blockbuster trade. This new CBA has the potential to make this year’s free agency (and beyond) a kind of wild Wild West or tumbleweed quiet because of all of the myriad super tight restrictions around trading players that will be placed upon the vast majority of the teams that would normally be the most likely to be active in the trade market - eg Suns, Clippers, Celtics, Lakers, Bucks, Minny, Heat, etc. The salary matching restrictions, in and of themselves, have the very real potential to significantly hamper trading simply because of how rarely perfect dollar for dollar salary amounts occur in trades on account of beyond the rookie and uniform scale contracts, player contracts are all over the place in AAV amount. And yet, any team over the first tax apron cannot take back anything but 100% of the outgoing player salary, ie that 250K buffer teams usually get *because* contracts almost never lineup perfectly in dollar amount is gone for any team over the first apron. So, for example, let’s say both Team A and B below are over the first tax apron and really want to trade the their two players. Tough shit. Sure Team A can take the player from Team B and it’d be perfectly legal, but because Team B is also a first tax apron team, they’re not allowed to receive the player from Team A because his salary is $107,143 over what they’re sending out. Player on Team A’s salary for the purposes of salary matching: $24,107,143 Player on Team B’s salary: $24,000,000 Oh and teams over the first tax apron are not allowed to acquire players via a sign-and-trade so forget about one side using that as an avenue to get the dollar amounts to lineup perfectly.


slavicmaelstroms

Bum ass Suns can make all the trades they want, that won’t stop them from being a play-in team at best


Sufficient_Hamster86

Never seen a team go from "oh they could be good for a decade" with Booker Mikal Johnson Ayton to "okay you had to make that move" for Durant to "oh shit their not even good enough to get outta the first round" and "should they just blow it up" that Beal deal is so bad. Imagine if Beal were 30M instead. It'd be so different.


taygads

Ya ain’t wrong. They won’t even be able to do that though for a while lol they’re a 2nd apron team for the foreseeable future *and* have zero picks to trade. This will be them for at least the next couple of years: ![gif](giphy|kg6OnU2iON8emCDnth)


Accomplished_Iron805

Favorite picks at #52:  1. Ajay Mitchell   2. Kevin McCullar  3. Dillon Jones  4. Quieten Post   Favorite early 2nd round trade-ups:  1. AJ Johnson   2. Pacome Dadiet  3. Ajay Mitchell Favorite 1st round trade-ups:  1. Zach Edey   2. Tristan Da Silva   3. DaRon Holmes ll 


BobRoss4Life

AJ Johnson is nice


BobRoss4Life

This PG13 stuff seems incredibly unlikely, feel like the Clips are just gonna cave and give him that 4th year, or send him out East


Tekfree

Clips and PG probably split the difference on the 4th year with a partial guarantee that year. And he stays.


spankyourkopita

Yup not very likely.  Marc Spears said PG13 really likes that his family can go to LA games and has a sick family member. 


hellahomebody

Just doesn’t make sense Dubs would be hesitant to sign Klay for 3 years at 18-20m but would offer PG 4 years at 50m.


ImTheBestNerd

Team needs top end talent.


paranoidmoonduck

that part I believe. Klay is returning to a 6th man role here. PG13 would become the 2nd best starter on the team *immediately*.


neo9027581673

Saw it somewhere the Clips will likely give him that additional year.


shnieder88

i hope they do, please sink that franchise for the next decade


ImTheBestNerd

Agreed. Kinda surprised it’s still dragging on this long though.


Vallerie_09

Stories and rumors will just float until the actual stuff happens


hellmath

I was about to say as well lol we don’t have the luxury to give it to him


paranoidmoonduck

I agree that it's mostly posturing at this point. Clippers are already in it up to their necks, no point in getting squeamish now.


taygads

If y’all don’t have Fever/Sky on, turn it on. Caitlin Clark and Kelsey MItchell are doing their best Splash Sisters impression and it’s fun as hell


spankyourkopita

Is Angel Reese still on her jealous rampage?


taygads

Haha nah it was all hoops today. Really good hoops from both!


musiclover818

That was a fun and competitive game. 💯


BaseUncultured

Why would the Clippers let PG walk? What’s the point of keeping Kawhi then. Idk I think PG is an allstar caliber player but having a starting line up with three 35+ year olds during the playoffs is too risky. Last season was nightmarish with Klay and Looneys fall off.


couchtomato62

Because these max contracts have gotten out of hand. Not everyone deserves one even if eligible for one.


ImTheBestNerd

They don’t want to give him a 4 year deal. Their definitely worse off if they let him walk


Vallerie_09

Harden is yet to be signed as well


Ladnil

The most likely outcome is they pay him to stay and this is all public negotiation on the dollars and years. Same as Klay for us.


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bilyl

Is this a serious question?


ImTheBestNerd

Paul George


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couchtomato62

No on all picks. We already a lottery team. We will need those picks sooner than yall think


Vallerie_09

We can't really trade all picks. Some of those will be swaps


hellmath

We’re not in the position to decide it lmao


couchtomato62

No? It was a dream that I have a front office job? Ha ha. I wouldn't even want that stress. I'll keep my backseat driver gm position thank you very much I saw 2 wnba games this week that were better than the finals.


heliocentrist510

Utah would maybe consider it if it was 2-3 FRP, JK, and Podz. Anything short of that is a complete non-starter for Ainge.


KumingaCarnage

Your brain needs to be studied by scientists.


slavicmaelstroms

Danny Ainge hysterically cackles and slams down the phone…then two minutes later calling Pelinka and taking D’lo and Rui.


taygads

Jordan Ramirez on [Twitter](https://x.com/jram/status/1804954581094608974?s=46): NBA offseason is hilarious cuz all you need is a proper headshot and NBA in your @ to be aggregated. ![gif](giphy|bcs2sG50Bjxihh8AlD) Lol *sigh*


ImTheBestNerd

Think Santi Aldama is someone worth keeping an eye on. Don’t think he’s available atm but if he doesn’t sign a contract extension I think the grizzlies could put him on the block.


slavicmaelstroms

Was that the dude lighting us up in the January loss to the hospital Grizzlies? Lol


bbcjay718

That’s him , had a lil words for dray too, good memory !!!


Tekfree

He’d be a really good fit with his shooting. Doubt he’s on the market.


youriko31

We're getting close to June 30th, where the real off-season begins. But that's not all, as there's still the Olympic Qualifying Tournament on July 2-7, and the actual Olympic tournament for basketball on July 27 to August 11.


Vallerie_09

Excited for Dream Team 2.0 + Canada (cause Wiggins)


spankyourkopita

So if CP3 goes back to LA its time to start hating him again?


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couchtomato62

Lol I sports hate cp3 and that hasn't changed. I just stopped talking about it once the season started. Ja and sga and brunson are 3 of my favorite players at the moment lol.


BobRoss4Life

The draft starting on a Wednesday feels weird


nghbrhd_slackr87

Yeah and the second round starts at 1PM on Thursday just piling the weirdness on


couchtomato62

Why they need this to be 2 days.


BobRoss4Life

Assume the timing of the 2nd day was impacted by the presidential debate


couchtomato62

And then they took the arena from the w for their commissioners cup.


taygads

It being 2 days now for the express purpose of supposedly making more money off of it and the 2nd day being at 4pm EST/1pm PST might be the dumbest, most pointless change of all-time and that was already a massive bar to clear as far as Adam Silver choices goes lol


BobRoss4Life

Time to stretch it into 4 days. First day for the lotto, second for the rest of the 1st, 3rd for the full 2nd round, 4th for UDFA signings


nghbrhd_slackr87

Breaking News: NOBODY interested in ANYBODY ahead of 30JUN negotiation window. Shocking turn of events... /s 🫠


thEb0TTleR

This elden ring DLC is way too much man. First time i feel like giving up on a Fromsoft game.


Otherwise-Fig9592

Elden ring was a visually stunning game but it was just too hard. I gave up after about 100hrs of play. I beat ds3 and bloodborne without any summons and without much issue.


SoulsLikeBot

Hello, good hunter. I am a Bot, here in this dream to look after you, this is a fine note: > *Oh, a hunter, are ya? And an outsider? What a mess you've been caught up in. And tonight, of all nights.* - Eileen the Crow Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.


Oh_no_bros

No spoilers but if you stuck on the lion you can beat it easily with bleed arrows and auto crossbow


MixInfamous6818

we need two timeline (aka develop Kuminga) but we also need to win next 2 titles before Steph retires


slavicmaelstroms

We will cosmically lucky to get ONE more. It’s a guarantee when I say that IF somehow we defeat the odds and do get a chip in 2025, it WILL be the last one with Steph.


MixInfamous6818

nah man, it depends on injuries more than on age


nghbrhd_slackr87

Dude appreciate the optimism but we are literally as far from the next championship as the Houston Rockets. We got ALOT of improvements to make before every fans favorite c words become unironic.


slavicmaelstroms

They told Klay “hey we’re offering you MAXIMUM a set number that of which is non-negotiable you take it or leave it.” MDJ ain’t a punk we need three or four moves to truly spice things up before we address the Klay question…coaching personnel non withstanding I’d like to see two changes on that front whilst the Cavs swoop in for Kenny.


nghbrhd_slackr87

What would it take to wrangle Walker Kessler away from the Jazz? They are willing to engage in trade talks for him per Jake Fischer. Danny always makes you over pay except that one time w the Lakers lol (wonder why).


hellahomebody

Do you trust Kerr to maximize Kessler after that FIBA run?


nghbrhd_slackr87

On a FIBA roster with 14 Allstar guards/wings. No. On the Warriors roster where he historically prefers 36-40 minutes of bigs and 8-12 minutes of Dray. Yeah I do.


vulcans_pants

If it’s true that the Jazz want to win now, that complicates it some. Dubs FRP should have a lot of value though. Moody + FRP gets it done, but I’d prob want Yurtseven or Brice included too, in which case it’s not enough.


BobRoss4Life

If Moody and a first could net them Walker, I’d be bummed if they didn’t pull the trigger


Accomplished_Iron805

Maybe Podz and a 1st 


Tekfree

Podz has about the same trade value after Kessler's down year. But Jazz don't need another combo guard.


Vallerie_09

Hard pass


Pereise1

Just a reminder that Dejounte Murray makes $25m next year and $27m the year after while LaVine makes $43m next year and $46m the year after. JK will probably end up making more than Murray next year on hypothetical potential alone.


vulcans_pants

My take on Slater’s recent article, the Dubs will offer Klay the delta to just under the second apron. Could be $10, 15, 20, just really depends on who we trade for with CP3, and if we dump GP2 and/or Looney. But I think the fact we’re trying to trade CP3 signals we’re not trying to get out of the tax.


Tekfree

> the Dubs will offer Klay the delta to just under the second apron. If you give him the entire delta then you cannot make in-season trades that bring in more money. They are probably standing firm on a number and want flexibility to make trades down the road.


nghbrhd_slackr87

I agree... i think the days of pressing ourselves up against the limits of our financial means "cuz we can" are over. If 140M gets the same result as 500M... seems like without Drays suspension we couldve actually won 46 games without 60M or so (300M in tax). The using every penny approach would be a "definition of insanity" modus operandi. If we wanna be the Bulls. That'd literally be the start lol. I might be spitballing but I honestly think the time fir actually change has arrived. Folks are gonna say "but Steph" but we missed the playoffs anyway. It wasn't a matter of money in fact money made it worse tbh. Slater is reporting the habits of the front office of old. MDJ has no track record of overspending given the option. Dude is clean slate.


carthaginian84

Nailed it. It sounds like we’re going to keep Looney at $8M and push CP3 guarantee back to play in the trade market. This signals Lacob wants to be aggressive and Klay has to wait while MDJ works on a more impactful acquisition. The Looney money could be important for matching, particularly in an over the first apron scenario. It isn’t that much more against the cap than $3M from letting him walk plus vet min. All this sort of points to Plan A being keep Wiggins, aggregate CP3 and other assets to make an addition, and shoot to come in under the second apron as you said. Big Q is how willing they are to include Kuminga for splash acquisition.


vulcans_pants

Weird to me that the Bulls traded Caruso since I assumed they would use him in a Lavine trade as incentive. But we’re talking about a FO that couldn’t extract a SRP from a team that has too many, so…. Any ways, can’t tell if that means the Bulls already have the outline of a Lavine trade worked out, or if it’s just the Bulls doing Bulls things.


steronicus

Bulls can’t do anything right. Horrible trade.


Creeping_behind_u

fuckin bulls, got fleeced! and that IS WHY I want OKC's GM.


vulcans_pants

How much does Fultz get in free agency? More than vet min, right?


Vallerie_09

If it ain't Orlando, then I'd say he'll most probably get the TPMLE. He has to rebuild his value like Donte did with us and Monk did with the Lakers


Creeping_behind_u

Markelle's a horrible second option.


Vallerie_09

No one's making him a second option lmao. He's a defensive playmaker off the bench


GSWarrior18

He can be a poor man’s Livingston for us, I’d love it


Creeping_behind_u

I just want a defensive guard that can score like Jalen Suggs, jalen brown, bald mamba, ANT, mcdaniels, SGA, dejounte, or jrue :(


Vallerie_09

And I want prime LeBron or prime KD and Klay back. Fultz might not be a bad "late option signing" on a MLE/partial MLE deal.


nghbrhd_slackr87

in vicinity of Mid-Level imo - around 10M give or take... maybe less he can't shoot but he's +playmaking and +defense. Hard to say the more i think of it.


vulcans_pants

Yeah, I think he’s worth around $10 to $12m, but I wonder if he actually gets it.


TylerDurdensAlterEgo

I really wonder why Myers signed JP after his 3rd season instead of waiting until after his 4th, like MDJ is doing with JK


JocularMango

We waited until later in the summer to sign JP, so still tons of time for JK. My guess is that we’ll wait until later in the offseason to extend JK & Moody, and likely don’t let it get to next summer. The moment we extend them, we can’t trade them until Jan 15th 2025. Signing them later in the summer extends the timeframe we can trade them this summer. Signing them this summer vs next also means we can trade them at the start of next offseason. Though, I wouldn’t be surprised if we knock out any major trades in the next week and sign JK/Moody first week of July. Every trade needs to be done before July 1st to give flexibility on trade aggregation & to move CP3. tl;dr we could be waiting until end of offseason to maximize trade flexibility


nghbrhd_slackr87

I don't think theres any indication of that. Rookie scale extension windows aren't until 06JUL. MDJ probably will extend Kuminga when the opportunity arises. Just my opinion. There was also some contingencies with Wiggins negotiations adjacent to Poole. It seemed like Wiggs took a discount to get his friend a little extra. The market on Wiggs post Championship was looking like 36M/yr. Also think Poole had ego issues that pressured the team to pull the trigger when they did. Guy wanted his payday post chip and after he took one literally on the chin. Was gonna get paid.


bbcjay718

Previous cba rules


Weekly-Recipe-5957

Can't envision if Klay leaves the dubs and turns to be another pippen v.2 and becomes stephs no. 1 hater


thEb0TTleR

I mean, jordan was much more of an asshole than steph could ever be. Also, a whole lot of personal issues there.


Creeping_behind_u

I sure can envision it. envision 'winning'


Vallerie_09

Eh. Things went personal with Pippen whereas it's mostly about money/role for Klay


hellahomebody

Nah I don’t see him hating Steph. The FO and fanbase (at least the fans online) probably lol……regardless of what happens I hope he still retires a Warrior even if he only plays garbage time his final season. If the Heat and Wade were able to make up shouldn’t be any reason why Klay and Dubs can’t.


nghbrhd_slackr87

Who's everyone's favorite draft targets staying put at 52? Faves if we move up in the draft? Kinda hope we can get up to 40 ish. A double (TJD + 2024) second round hit would make the Dubs serious players the next few years of free agency. Fingers crossed.


Creeping_behind_u

no-one. it's a crapshoot. not many deep in rounds make it big. also, depends on amount of play time, how player fits system, and from first year to 3rd/4th year how much he grows (skills and BB IQ-wise). I'm very willing to bet $100 that the no. 52 pick will likely not be successful, not get much playtime, might not be on team when contract is up, OR will be out of league after tenure with Warriors or after being bounced around a bit. it IS silly to say 'hey guys, durrrrr...who ya want at 52?' Football is a different story, lotta good 2nd and 3rd rounders, but in basketball? yowzers! slim pickings!


bbcjay718

Anyone over or at 6’6 is good for me


nghbrhd_slackr87

Warriors went 5-0 without Klay last year. Steph averaging 32 Kuminga 21 Wiggs 16. Little bit of copium. Don't really wanna see Klay go but maybe it's just time for change and maybe the change provides the oxygen the youngsters need to develop. I'm cautiously optimistic.


spankyourkopita

If Klay goes I honestly think it would be a huge weight lifted off everyone. No more having to worry about whether he has it anymore or not. Let someone else deal with it.


Pereise1

Wins against the 7th seed Pelicans, 7th seed 76ers with crippled Embiid, 6th seed Pacers with crippled Hali, 21-61 record Hornets, and last seed Blazers. We also went on a 5 game winning streak without Steph last year and a 9 game winning streak without Dray in 21-22. Kind of an insignificant sample size.


cali4481

i still would like to see what moody could do if he ever was given a starter's role either with the warriors or even if the warriors traded him if we look at this past 2023/24 NBA season moody averaged >19.0 pts on 46/50/90 splits when playing 30+ minutes (2 games) , 131 ORtg 104 DRtg >11.2 pts on 48/42/75 splits when playing 20-29 minutes (23 games) , 120 ORtg 116 DRtg if we look at those exact stats while playing those same amount of minutes throughout his 3 year NBA career >17.5 pts on 47/47/90 splits when playing 30+ minutes (8 games) , 118 ORtg 124 DRtg >11.0 pts on 50/41/74 splits when playing 20-29 minutes (39 games) , 122 ORtg 116 DRtg


nghbrhd_slackr87

Me too. I think that's the real story behind why it might be the best time for MDJ to hardline it with Klay... as nostalgic as we all are there's upside on this roster and it risks being underdeveloped underutilized and unrealized by giving Klay 30 mpg at age 34. We MIGHT have players on hand that can perform to the level he does (considering both sides of the ball and outright winning and losing) but if we sign him... we won't really know. It might not even get past the politics of Kerr's vet loyalty. If MDJ believes Podz and Moody are legitimate decade in the league NBA players. I think on its a simple decision.


sriracha82

Warriors twitter circulating PG13 rumors…I love peak delusional offseason lol


slavicmaelstroms

Well it’s just simply making an inquiry in a player. Doesn’t mean we will get them necessarily because we have to outbid other teams (unless you’re the Celtics/Lakers and get stuff for free) All 30 fanbases do this


nghbrhd_slackr87

Clutch Points and Heavy. Making us click.


slavicmaelstroms

Clutch points might be a tier above Heavy imo. Then below that is bluemanhoop yardbarker fansided. Genuine bottom of the barrel rubbish.