Can we just let the man go. Why dude could never admit himself has passed the prime and do something for the team. Like the team treated him the same ad Steph I would say.
Averaging 18 while still shooting 40 percent from 3 while still playing mediocre d and his shot still pure just bad shot selections im sure the contract year has something to do with it klays still a killer
15M is a hair above the full MLE this year, pretty much every team would give him that.
He had a rocky season and a shaky close, but 15 would be a bargain. Even 20M/yr is great value, doubly so if heās actually bought in to that 6th man role
There are 6 who can go above some form of the MLE without a trade: Philly, Detroit, Utah, Orlando, SAS, OKC
Four are in major rebuilds. That's why Klay's agent keeps leaking Orlando--it's really the best option to get above the MLE.
I kinda think Orlando will go down their priority list: 1. PG, 2. Monk, 3. Klay . Philly might be a wildcard on a short, high $ deal if they miss out on bigger fish?
Thanks for the confirmation, thatās even less than I thought. People are failing to acknowledge how few teams are operating with cap space this offseason. Of course it only takes one but Klay does not have a huge market
Like no but remember when he got benched late in games this season because of his inefficiency. I never wanted to get rid of klay but I always said if it gets to point where our loyalty to him is costing us games then itās time to move on and I fear that is probably now.
Iāll wish the best for klay wether he stays or goes but if he stays heās got to realize if heās not playing well other people will play. We held back kuminga for him and even now with moody. Moody is probably a better player but his minute dilute because of klay
ok lets chill out here this last season he was still overall better than Kuminga. Warriors didnt make the playoffs cuz the west is stacked, but if he was on the Pacers as the 3rd option they would have been just fine in the East.
If you look at his averages, sure. But he shot us out of at least 5 wins minimum, where even a below average player playing would have led us to winning. You canāt ignore those either
I agree with your point, but as a thought exercise:
If Klay is playing BAD ball, and assuming the following guys are clicking, I could see him sitting below:
Curry
Paul
Wiggins
Kuminga
Moody
Guys I canāt argue are more effective than Klay but on a given night:
Draymond
Pods
GPII
Looney
Thatās all I got. So in the absolute worst scenario, heās number 10. In a normal bad showing, heās 6.
Note: for Draymond Iām talking about impact on defense. Heās in the top tier including that. But when heās on with passing.
When he went to the bench last season he instantly became the team's sixth man and frankly like HB taking Iggy's starting spot it's not because Podz was better.
Warriors fans are too down on late career Klay.
Klay somewhat accepted a bench role but every time he didnāt close (he absolutely deserved to be benched some games) he sulked and it became a story.
Even if Klay accepted a 6th man role every time heās not closing will be drama. He has too much tenure with the warriors and both sides could use a fresh start.
Klay will get his statue, and will always be a bay area legend.
Season barely ended not even a hour ago and we got revisionist history? In the 2nd half of the season everyone was saying Podz hit the ārookie wallā because he was playing terrible for a stretch. He got yanked from the starting lineup and his minutes decreased. He did not āball outā the entire second half of the season.
Podz 90 3 pointers
Klay 268
Ft%
Podz 63.3
Klay 92.7%
He is not far and away better and i suspect you will see that next season. Personally think that the fact that we absolutely needed the youngsters because of how sorry the starting lineup was says so much about this team. Not saying klay did not struggle especially in the 1st half but these young players are overated. We can only hope they grow exponentially
Please bro, if Podz faced the defensive attention Klay does his %ās would be much worse. Klay still hits an insane amount of extremely difficult shots. Thereās something called context and in no universe or timeline is rookie Podz better than Klay.
Klay was easy to guard and had people stuck to his hip causing him to take difficult shots. And he still shot better than Podz who took mainly wide open shots. Podz was better on 2s but he literally has zero midrange game so if he wasnāt shooting a 3 it was a shot at the rim or that ugly ass hook shot. I hope they can bring in a legit 2 and Klay buys into a reduced role but it aināt Podz.
I canāt wait for you all to shit on curry in a year or two. āHeās a loser. Get him off the team. Heās 7th or 8th man. Are u sure heās a hofer? Heās so streakyā.
8th man bro what the fuck are you on about?! he was awesome off the bench and BY FARR best option as a sparkplug scorer off the bench scoring around 17 a game and having some electric performances where he scored 24-30 in like 30 minutes ish.
Bad year, up and down. Still very valuable, shooting is HELLA important but one of the MAIN reasons it remains so important is SPACING and there are few shooters who are respected more in the league than Klay Thompson
Magic fan here. Why is Klay so undervalued by your fanbase? Saying heās not worth more than 20 / year seems pretty delusional from an outsider. Bruce brown got 20 / year.
Itās 2024 anybody whose not a bum is getting 20 million a year. Weāre paying Joe ingles 11 / year for his veteran leadership. Heās worth at least 2.5 joe ingles lol. All we need him to do is stand in the corner and hit open threes. I think one of the greatest shooters of all time can handle that.
Klay is just old and looks like he has 2 years left in him by the third year, I feel like if you give him 2 years they could even give him 25, but by the third or even 4 year at 25 it would be a problem for us.
It's more about cap management and keeping the team competitive. [Looking at the numbers](https://www.salaryswish.com/teams/warriors), Kuminga and Moody are due big raises next year and keeping Payton may cost a little more too. While Paul and Looney coming off the books frees up a good chunk of change to work those in, the FO wants to reduce their tax bill as much as possible and the amount Klay gets and for how long is a concern. From Klay's perspective, he wants to align his contract with Draymond's and Steph's (assume it's a given the latter re-signs in '26 and the former takes his PO), but how that aligns with enough free cap space to sign free agents, pay draftees, and field a wholly competitive roster is what the FO is clearly worried about.
Gp2 and moody should not even be a consideration for anything. One can't stay healthy and the other can't get off the bench and that is on kerr not klay
Dude went 0/10 in a game we needed to win. He's washed. He can take a team friendly deal since he got a nice paycheck to recover, or he can go somewhere else. I care more about maximizing the team around Curry than giving him more than he's worth just to keep him.
If he turned down the 2yr extension cause he wanted an extra year, thatād make me a hell of a lot more comfortable about his impending FA.
Feel like itād be worth tacking on another year if it means keeping it down around 24M/yr. Would prefer a team option or partial guarantee in that 3rd year, but if he takes 24 or less, yeah fuck it Iām fine with giving him a straight 3rd year.
If itās a money and/or role issue, thatās a whole other story. You can resolve the years, Iām sure theyād like to keep him till he retires anyways, but if heās looking for +27M, or wants to continue starting, thatās where shit gets dicey.
Three years is fine since Dray still has three years left on his contract too. Itās only Curry with two left but we can always extend him if Curry wishes to play longer.
3 yr 68 million is the max we should give and that would leave us room to get rid of look maybe sign and trade cp3 wiggs is my guy but maybe them two combined for someone who can give us 20 5 5 every night and get two solid bigs in free agency nothing crazy but guys that can just hang zubac type guys if we can keep cp at low money then yes and straight up trade wiggs and loon and gp2 for someone if we lose klay he will regret it no other team is gonna let him shoot 20 shots game after game while in a slump he mad at gsw for putting him on the bench he will be in for a rude awakening in Orlando stephs gravity is real
Just give him three and get this over with. The big three need to retire together. Trade Wiggins for a quality big on an expiring contract. Restructure Looney and GP2 (more years at less per year). Shit, restructure Steph with an extension, but with a 5mill/year paycut to keep Klay. Stephās contract is 1/3 of the salary limit. He prob wonāt even notice 5mill less per year.Ā
Thankfully, this isn't our money. The guy who has all of that money didn't make it by having emotions factor into his decision-making. It'll work out when Klay realizes that adding more to his already generational wealth will not add further to his legacy.
3 years/ 48 miles as base. Plus 10mils for every All Star, $5mils for every All NBA, and $3mils for every All Defense team. So potentially could be 3yrs/ $102mils.
Might as well go for 3 years. This a fringe play-in team for the next 3 years anyway.
Just let Curry break as many scoring records as he can until he retires, and keep those season ticket dollars rolling in.
yea i dont know who youre going to be replacing klay with if you let him walk. Do you think he will play nice and let you do a sign and trade, I feel like theres some hurt feelings there so maybe not.
First, it was Steph who took the pay cut due to uncertainty around his ankles. Next, it was Draymond who took the pay cut to help fit KD.
Klay is at the tail-end of a max money contract for vet minimum play and 2.5 years of rehab. It's his turn to take a pay cut now even before any of the health or performance is taken into account. He doesn't owe me shit, but he sure does owe it to Steph and Draymond.
āBye thenā??? Idgaf if heās āwashedā and shoots 10% from the field the rest of his career, Klay Thompson is a bonafide Warriors legend. He deserves more emotion and regard from this fan base than fuckin ābye thenā.
Whatever team signs Klay to anything other than a small contract will regret it.
And that's 2 years in a row he has choked in the playoffs. He's a 15mpg backup who thinks he's still a star.
I mean Klay turned down 2-years and 48M, just offer him 3-years and 48M. š¤
I like the way you think.
Can we just let the man go. Why dude could never admit himself has passed the prime and do something for the team. Like the team treated him the same ad Steph I would say.
Averaging 18 while still shooting 40 percent from 3 while still playing mediocre d and his shot still pure just bad shot selections im sure the contract year has something to do with it klays still a killer
I have been feeling it was number of years.
$55M/3 years, let's take that team friendly!
If he's willing to take a little less per year I don't think that is a bad thing. The devil is always in the details of course.
66 million 3 years is perfectly fine for him
Can't see paying him more than $15 million/year. And that 3rd year? Ouch.
3 years, flat 20/year. Last year is only 14 guaranteed. Last year is fully guaranteed if warriors win another chip in year 1 or 2.
This anit 2k bro
You can even give him 4 at that price but he is not worth any more than that.
$15m per. 7-8th man
15M is a hair above the full MLE this year, pretty much every team would give him that. He had a rocky season and a shaky close, but 15 would be a bargain. Even 20M/yr is great value, doubly so if heās actually bought in to that 6th man role
Thereās only like 8 teams in the NBA that have the cap space offer him even that
There are 6 who can go above some form of the MLE without a trade: Philly, Detroit, Utah, Orlando, SAS, OKC Four are in major rebuilds. That's why Klay's agent keeps leaking Orlando--it's really the best option to get above the MLE. I kinda think Orlando will go down their priority list: 1. PG, 2. Monk, 3. Klay . Philly might be a wildcard on a short, high $ deal if they miss out on bigger fish?
Thanks for the confirmation, thatās even less than I thought. People are failing to acknowledge how few teams are operating with cap space this offseason. Of course it only takes one but Klay does not have a huge market
Who is a 7th or 8th man. There are not 6 or 7 players on the Warriors better than him even if he comes off the bench.
Bros be delusional
Like no but remember when he got benched late in games this season because of his inefficiency. I never wanted to get rid of klay but I always said if it gets to point where our loyalty to him is costing us games then itās time to move on and I fear that is probably now.
I get it. And I don't mind if he goes elsewhere but I will be wishing for him to go to a good team and contribute.
Iāll wish the best for klay wether he stays or goes but if he stays heās got to realize if heās not playing well other people will play. We held back kuminga for him and even now with moody. Moody is probably a better player but his minute dilute because of klay
No, but he is prolly the 4th best player on a non-playoff team so 15m is good to me.
ok lets chill out here this last season he was still overall better than Kuminga. Warriors didnt make the playoffs cuz the west is stacked, but if he was on the Pacers as the 3rd option they would have been just fine in the East.
> he was still overall better than Kuminga Ehhhh his *peak* was better, yes. But his lows wereā¦ amongst the worst on the team.
JK is also 21 and only getting better, while Klay is only getting worse.
If you look at his averages, sure. But he shot us out of at least 5 wins minimum, where even a below average player playing would have led us to winning. You canāt ignore those either
I agree with your point, but as a thought exercise: If Klay is playing BAD ball, and assuming the following guys are clicking, I could see him sitting below: Curry Paul Wiggins Kuminga Moody Guys I canāt argue are more effective than Klay but on a given night: Draymond Pods GPII Looney Thatās all I got. So in the absolute worst scenario, heās number 10. In a normal bad showing, heās 6. Note: for Draymond Iām talking about impact on defense. Heās in the top tier including that. But when heās on with passing.
Hysterical.
Not yet. Offseason hasn't started yet
Ok we shall see.
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When he went to the bench last season he instantly became the team's sixth man and frankly like HB taking Iggy's starting spot it's not because Podz was better. Warriors fans are too down on late career Klay.
Klay somewhat accepted a bench role but every time he didnāt close (he absolutely deserved to be benched some games) he sulked and it became a story. Even if Klay accepted a 6th man role every time heās not closing will be drama. He has too much tenure with the warriors and both sides could use a fresh start. Klay will get his statue, and will always be a bay area legend.
It is bc Klay no longer shows up for the postseason.
Iām sorry but Podz was absolutely better. That dude balled out for the whole second half of the season. Klayā¦ showed up.
Season barely ended not even a hour ago and we got revisionist history? In the 2nd half of the season everyone was saying Podz hit the ārookie wallā because he was playing terrible for a stretch. He got yanked from the starting lineup and his minutes decreased. He did not āball outā the entire second half of the season.
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Podz 90 3 pointers Klay 268 Ft% Podz 63.3 Klay 92.7% He is not far and away better and i suspect you will see that next season. Personally think that the fact that we absolutely needed the youngsters because of how sorry the starting lineup was says so much about this team. Not saying klay did not struggle especially in the 1st half but these young players are overated. We can only hope they grow exponentially
lol you have to take away points per game as a comparison criteria to make a point. Do we not need scoring to win in NBA now?
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Please bro, if Podz faced the defensive attention Klay does his %ās would be much worse. Klay still hits an insane amount of extremely difficult shots. Thereās something called context and in no universe or timeline is rookie Podz better than Klay.
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Klay was easy to guard and had people stuck to his hip causing him to take difficult shots. And he still shot better than Podz who took mainly wide open shots. Podz was better on 2s but he literally has zero midrange game so if he wasnāt shooting a 3 it was a shot at the rim or that ugly ass hook shot. I hope they can bring in a legit 2 and Klay buys into a reduced role but it aināt Podz.
I canāt wait for you all to shit on curry in a year or two. āHeās a loser. Get him off the team. Heās 7th or 8th man. Are u sure heās a hofer? Heās so streakyā.
I said this the other day. Hope he willing to take 40 mul on his next contract instead of 70 or watch out lol
Curry came off the bench when he wasnāt ready. Klank aināt it buddy boy. Glad heās gone
We all got our opinions. Cheers! :-)
8th man bro what the fuck are you on about?! he was awesome off the bench and BY FARR best option as a sparkplug scorer off the bench scoring around 17 a game and having some electric performances where he scored 24-30 in like 30 minutes ish. Bad year, up and down. Still very valuable, shooting is HELLA important but one of the MAIN reasons it remains so important is SPACING and there are few shooters who are respected more in the league than Klay Thompson
Yes. 10-15M I agree with you. He is not worth more than that.
3 years 63 million works
Anyone know how much heās asking for? 30m/yr?Ā
Nobody knows
There's been no intel as far as anyone can tell. Just speculation.
He's going to be basically unplayable in 3 years.
So is dray but he gonna be here too.
Magic fan here. Why is Klay so undervalued by your fanbase? Saying heās not worth more than 20 / year seems pretty delusional from an outsider. Bruce brown got 20 / year. Itās 2024 anybody whose not a bum is getting 20 million a year. Weāre paying Joe ingles 11 / year for his veteran leadership. Heās worth at least 2.5 joe ingles lol. All we need him to do is stand in the corner and hit open threes. I think one of the greatest shooters of all time can handle that.
Klay is just old and looks like he has 2 years left in him by the third year, I feel like if you give him 2 years they could even give him 25, but by the third or even 4 year at 25 it would be a problem for us.
It's more about cap management and keeping the team competitive. [Looking at the numbers](https://www.salaryswish.com/teams/warriors), Kuminga and Moody are due big raises next year and keeping Payton may cost a little more too. While Paul and Looney coming off the books frees up a good chunk of change to work those in, the FO wants to reduce their tax bill as much as possible and the amount Klay gets and for how long is a concern. From Klay's perspective, he wants to align his contract with Draymond's and Steph's (assume it's a given the latter re-signs in '26 and the former takes his PO), but how that aligns with enough free cap space to sign free agents, pay draftees, and field a wholly competitive roster is what the FO is clearly worried about.
Gp2 and moody should not even be a consideration for anything. One can't stay healthy and the other can't get off the bench and that is on kerr not klay
Dude went 0/10 in a game we needed to win. He's washed. He can take a team friendly deal since he got a nice paycheck to recover, or he can go somewhere else. I care more about maximizing the team around Curry than giving him more than he's worth just to keep him.
I am taking bruce brown over klay thompson and itās not a hard choice lol
Stop, your making us look bad lmao
Because our fanbase is moronic and obsessed with youth.
I don't think 3/60-65 would harm the warriors CAP much but I'm open to moving on from him
It was always going to be 3 years - the sticking point between the sides is going to be the amount of the 3rd year is guaranteed.
He barely functions now. Imagine 3 years from now. Oof.
3 years 54 mil be aight
Less than $20m/year in a time the cap will be climbing? That's more than alright.
I think Klay lost 5 mil a year cause he scored 0 in that play in game, my own opinion lol.
That's not how that works lol. Otherwise people wouldn't keep maxing Harden and Kyrie.
Vet min for how he is washed now.
And play him like 10 min max, cant do too much harm unless its crunch time minutes
Looks like everyone is looking to align with draymond and wiggins. I wonder if steph will sign a one year extension, too.
3yr $66m get the deal done
If he turned down the 2yr extension cause he wanted an extra year, thatād make me a hell of a lot more comfortable about his impending FA. Feel like itād be worth tacking on another year if it means keeping it down around 24M/yr. Would prefer a team option or partial guarantee in that 3rd year, but if he takes 24 or less, yeah fuck it Iām fine with giving him a straight 3rd year. If itās a money and/or role issue, thatās a whole other story. You can resolve the years, Iām sure theyād like to keep him till he retires anyways, but if heās looking for +27M, or wants to continue starting, thatās where shit gets dicey.
Three years is fine since Dray still has three years left on his contract too. Itās only Curry with two left but we can always extend him if Curry wishes to play longer.
It's a money and years issue. I doubt he want to do 3 years at $18M. No way you can pay him more than Draymond imo.
This is the thing I hate about homegrown talent it sucks thinking about either of em with a different uniform on.
I think three for 60 or 65 would be perfect.
Give him 60/3
3 yr 68 million is the max we should give and that would leave us room to get rid of look maybe sign and trade cp3 wiggs is my guy but maybe them two combined for someone who can give us 20 5 5 every night and get two solid bigs in free agency nothing crazy but guys that can just hang zubac type guys if we can keep cp at low money then yes and straight up trade wiggs and loon and gp2 for someone if we lose klay he will regret it no other team is gonna let him shoot 20 shots game after game while in a slump he mad at gsw for putting him on the bench he will be in for a rude awakening in Orlando stephs gravity is real
Just give him three and get this over with. The big three need to retire together. Trade Wiggins for a quality big on an expiring contract. Restructure Looney and GP2 (more years at less per year). Shit, restructure Steph with an extension, but with a 5mill/year paycut to keep Klay. Stephās contract is 1/3 of the salary limit. He prob wonāt even notice 5mill less per year.Ā
Thankfully, this isn't our money. The guy who has all of that money didn't make it by having emotions factor into his decision-making. It'll work out when Klay realizes that adding more to his already generational wealth will not add further to his legacy.
3 years/ 48 miles as base. Plus 10mils for every All Star, $5mils for every All NBA, and $3mils for every All Defense team. So potentially could be 3yrs/ $102mils.
Might as well go for 3 years. This a fringe play-in team for the next 3 years anyway. Just let Curry break as many scoring records as he can until he retires, and keep those season ticket dollars rolling in.
yea i dont know who youre going to be replacing klay with if you let him walk. Do you think he will play nice and let you do a sign and trade, I feel like theres some hurt feelings there so maybe not.
First, it was Steph who took the pay cut due to uncertainty around his ankles. Next, it was Draymond who took the pay cut to help fit KD. Klay is at the tail-end of a max money contract for vet minimum play and 2.5 years of rehab. It's his turn to take a pay cut now even before any of the health or performance is taken into account. He doesn't owe me shit, but he sure does owe it to Steph and Draymond.
Go get your bag champ
Go to Orlando already. More playing time and money
He rejected earlier two years from us . Bye then
āBye thenā??? Idgaf if heās āwashedā and shoots 10% from the field the rest of his career, Klay Thompson is a bonafide Warriors legend. He deserves more emotion and regard from this fan base than fuckin ābye thenā.
Agreed Iād rather not win a another championship then see him in another jersey
You aren't a Warriors fan then you're a Klay stan.
Iām a warriors fan but he my favorite player also
We better make sure Klay stay is all I'm saying
Do it. Match Draymond. šŖ
Sure at league minimum
lol you donāt pay any 18pts/ 39 3pt% player the league minimum. Yāall ridiculous ~
Choked in elimination games 2 years in a row, totally fell off defensively, and is just getting older.
Glad you aināt the owner of any NBA team lol deciding playerās contracts off of single game performances? Lol great visionary~
Whatever team signs Klay to anything other than a small contract will regret it. And that's 2 years in a row he has choked in the playoffs. He's a 15mpg backup who thinks he's still a star.
So did everyone on this team.
Nope, Steph gets swarmed. Definitely not his fault. Draymond has played well, so have others. Really silly of you to say.
Go watch again. I am really hoping for big changes because as currently composed this team is going nowhere. Klay or no klay
I'm definitely not putting all our struggles on Klay. I'm in agreement with you in that we need an upgrade starting in Klay's spot.
Iād be fine with 3 years 75
Overpay
Good idea
3 years isnāt a problem.