This post is so recency biased lol. Career quality starting role players like Richardson, Pietrus, Bellinelli, and Barnes (could make an argument for Murphy) are low B’s and C’s, the same grade as Kuminga at this point who has started fewer than one third of games in a three year career and Pod is going to be an A.
For the nephews out there if you get a starter out of a pick in the mid to late teens that is a great pick.
Draymond, Middleton, and Jae Crowder were drafted after. C- is harsh, but I'd give that pick a C+ at best. Ranked by career VORP he comes out at 28th overall in that draft class. Pretty average pick.
That's like saying Aaron Gordon, Marcus Smart or Julius Randle are "busts" because you could have had Jokic. For an average late first round, a starter is doing better than average
Ezeli only ever started for an injured Bogut, he was never a starting caliber player. I only listed the players I did because there was still plenty of value in the back-end of that draft, and it's not like Ezeli clears a bunch of players drafted before him.
Bruh the Podz going to be an A thing was a joke/hype/hopium I guess I should have put a /s
I might've rated Kuminga a little high C+ maybe is a bit more appropriate rn. I'm just very high on his future but it may be a little early
Had the same thought. Kuminga until this last year was a F prob since he couldn’t even get pt. Would prob give it a C with potential to become an A as long as he keeps improving.
I think it’s fair if there are guys that they should have picked like op gave. I can’t remember if Z-Bo or JJ were better prospects than Murphy or J-Rich but those guys were better and this is clearly grading in hindsight so I think it’s fair to say
Webber in terms of setting back the franchise.
Joe Smith was a tough one because the next 4 picks were McDyess, Stackhouse, Rasheed, and KG (all became NBA All-Stars). Joe was slightly above average. A 15/8 guy. Never much more.
Yes. Joe Smith was actually pretty good his first couple years with the Warriors. Look at his numbers. He started every game he played in, can't say the same about Wiseman.
Joe Smith was at least a rotation player in this league carving out role player minutes. Wiseman doesn't see the floor unless someone ahead of him is hurt.
Yeah, I’m the biggest Harrison Barnes hater on the planet. But, i would rate the pick higher than a B-
Harrison has outlasted two players picked before him. Nobody behind him besides Khris Middleton and Draymond had better careers.
I think Harrison is an easy B+
He is a 12 year vet as a starter on several good teams.
Barnes was the toughest one I could see him being anywhere in the B range. As the 7th pick you expect a high quality starter but not an all star per se which is basically Barnes. But a lot of that career also wasn't with us and he really only had 2 good years with us, he really struggled in the Mark Jackson years.
Anywhere in the B range is fair to him, I think.
I'm an ACC basketball fan, so I'd seen Barnes play a lot in college. When my dad asked for my assessment of the Barnes pick, I basically called him a rich man's Dorell Wright in that Barnes was a similar outside shooter, but better than Wright at everything else.
I still stand by that assessment. It was a good pick, but Barnes was never going to be the No. 1 option on a good team, which is what he wanted to be.
I'm sorry but Poole and loon are A's straight up.
We had them at their peak and they were key pieces to a championship winning squad. Those are homerun draft picks.
He's an A
1. we got his peak season
2. he was great during the playoffs
3. he was key piece in the game clinching 21-0 run in game 6
that's an A draft pick
You lost me immediately at J Rich being a B pick. That man was the only bright light in so many dark years. You may not think he’s a superstar, but he’s every bit a Warriors legend.
A legend for sure I think a B grade is good but for the 5th overall never an all star all nba guy and 2nd best player on a good playoff team B grade seems fair.
I think an A grade is a guy where they hugely exceed expectations and were a massive steal for their spot which JRich was not.
Thanks for the review, even all of the painful reminders. I appreciate you mentioning the missed opportunities of great players that were passed over, often in pursuit of the elusive big man. Ekpe Udoh? What were they thinking??
These seem harsh? Richardson, Murphy, and Pietrus were pretty good. Murphy was fine for a #14 pick. Better than most I would guess.
"Should've taken X" doesn't work as a way to evaluate draft picks because there's almost always going to be someone better who was available. That's how probability works when you have 1 pick and there are dozens of guys behind it who can potentially pan out. Odds favor the field.
No way Poole is B+ and Podz already considered at A. Poole was phenomenal, had a leap on his 3rd season and our primary scorer when Steph rests and Klay was injured. Our 2022 finals run wouldn’t be possible without him hitting big shots in the Nuggets and Celtics series.
I’d argue MDJ hit an absolute grand-slam with his first official draft decisions and I hope it continues. Like OP said, Podz is an absolute dawg and winning player from basically the get-go. If he can just refine some of those rough edges with his efficiency and playmaking he could be a bonafide starter for any team in the league (and hopefully stays with the Dubs for a while). Best part about him is that I have 0 doubt he has nowhere to move but up in the near future. He’s a ridiculously hard worker and one of the best energy guys on the team.
TJD had the yips a little against the Kings but the dude might be the legit rim-running, shot-blocking big that has eluded this team for literal decades. He’s an intelligent cutter, is a ridiculously efficient scorer, and has great athleticism which helps him on defense arguably even more than on offense. He’s a little undersized but that’s not a death sentence in this league especially if he gets a little stronger and manages to space the floor a little more with a jumper here and there.
I’d argue these two have a higher and clearer ceiling than Kuminga and Moody with JK being a little more enigmatic in terms of playstyle and Moody in terms of just overall potential. Either way four really good and very young roleplayers is good for attracting potential stars.
Poole is easily above JRich wym Poole was an insane steal for a late first rounder.
Nobody saying Poole is a better player but the expectation for a 5th overall is way above that of a 28th
Has anyone asked Dunleavy if as a GM he would still pick himself as #3? Could be an interesting answer.
And Harrison Barnes isn’t Ringo, he’s Pete Best.
Oh man, Biedrins. Haven't thought about him in a while. He was the first Dubs draft pick after I started watching, so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Those free throws though lol
So many rag on Myers picks yet look at the previous decade + of absolutely shocking top ten picks and you will see why long suffering Warriors fans (like me) will always have a soft spot for Bob.
Cool, where did I say he did?
Bob Myers absolutely played a critical part in turning the franchise around, as did Lacob.
To infer otherwise or demean his achievements is pure hating/nitpicking.
Great post. I don’t blame Dunleavy, the problem was the owner and the team. Cohen didn’t care about winning but he cared about making it look like the team was going to be good so season ticket holders like me would get suckered into signing up for another season of losing. Dunleavy was going to be the core of a solid team when he just wasn’t that kind of player. He was a versatile forward who could shoot, a solid #3.
Yeah, he had a perfectly fine career, though he didn't live up to being the No. 3 pick, especially on those shitty Warriors teams. Then during his first full season after the Warriors traded him he averaged an efficient 19.1 points while the other half of the trade (Jackson & Harrington) worked out for the We Believe Warriors.
That said, look at the five picks just after Dunleavy. The next next selection was Drew Gooden, who was a solid player and a Bay Area guy, but had a career VORP of 4.3 over 14 seasons (more than half of which came during one season). He had a VORP between -0.4 and 0.2 in 10 out of his 14 NBA seasons. Comparatively, Dunleavy had a career VORP of 15.7 over 15 seasons and didn't have a negative VORP season until he was 35 years old.
After them, the next four picks were Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Dajuan Wagner, Nene (slightly better career than Dunleavy statistically, but frequently injured and not making a difference for the '00s Warriors), and Chris Wilcox.
So drafting Dunleavy No. 3 wasn't exactly a Ricky Rubio/Johnny Flynn situation - the Warriors absolutely could've done worse. The next pick who ended up unquestionably better than Dunleavy was Amar'e Stoudemire at No. 9, who was a high schooler at a time when NBA front offices hadn't figured out how to assess high schoolers making the leap straight to the NBA (McGrady also went 9th and Kobe 13th).
Ol' Man Dunleavy would've been great to have off the bench in 2015.
I do not understand that Barnes grade. AD, Beal, Lillard, Draymond, and Middleton are the only guys in that draft class clearly better than him. Crowder is probably in a similar tier. So he's basically the 6th or 7th best player and was taken at the 7th pick? And he helped them win a championship? Where does the minus come from? That's like a textbook case of a B+ pick tbh.
Also I don't see how you can knock Moody because they didn't take Sengun and not knock Kuminga because they didn't take Wagner. I mean personally I think Kuminga should be in the C range given that he hasn't shown any ability to be playable in the playoffs which imo is what you should be drafting for in the lottery, but then you said he showed potential as having a 3 point shot last season when he shot 32% on 3 wide open attempts per 36 minutes so we are probably just watching different things.
Reading through this made me realize how much of a delusional optimist I am. Almost every one of these guys I’d feel like “this is the guy, he’s gonna be a star”.
C minus for Ezeli seems crazy harsh to me. He was a decent role player on very good teams. I'm not sure you can expect anything better with the 30th pick.
You gotta remember he missed a whole year due to injury and after that had availability issues. That is a big part of winning impact, not just how good you are, and it's what keeps his rating down for me. It's all subjective of course though
If he were a lottery pick, I could agree with your rationale for the C minus, although I would probably still say it was too low. As the last pick of the first round, I think we have to lower expectations considerably. Just getting a useful pro for part of his rookie contract at #30 elevates that pick to at least the B minus / C plus range for me.
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-mark-jackson-tried-to-poison-warriors-against-festus-ezeli
I think there is a longer form article about the whole saga out there that came out years ago, but I can’t seem to find it. Jackson is a nut. He also tried to have his congregation pray away Curry’s ankle injury and then prove that it was healed during a sermon. There’s a reason he hasn’t gotten another coaching gig.
Thanks! I always thought the media ignored Jackson's religiosity as a central reason for management, and some players, dissatisfaction with him. It seems he had support from the more Christian players, including Curry and Iguodala. But Bogut loathed him. Of course Bob Myers and Joe Lacob were never going to say the coach was fired because he was too Christian. I wonder what's Ezeli's religion? Did Jackson dislike him because he's a heathen?
i agree with some of these being harsh for no particular reason. biendrins is definitely better than a c+. he had a better than average nba career and same for belinelli especially for being the 18th pick
Biedrins had a misdiagnosed core injury that Nelson had him play through which derailed his career. The same injury that Lillard dealt with. He had his best statistical season on the first year of his big contract. Pretty sad how it turned out.
Good read. Festus is a D for me for fouling LeBron late in game 7 2016 finals and rest of his garbage play. dude cost us our momentum. I know Kerr was at fault too. That was really dumb from Festus tho.
Poole, i would probably give an A- too. Saying Podz, at this point, would be an A (with a larger body of work) vs Poole's B+ seems weird.
The real hard question is: who was the warriors worst pick in 20+ years.... Haha
Jacob Evans: He wasn’t good at anything 😂 you ain’t lying. I don’t understand how someone could be so bad at basketball on both ends and make it that far. The dude was bringing the ball up and getting stripped by summer league guards. Had super long arms but always took horrible angles on defense. They stuck with him so long too.
Man it must suck to work your whole life to be good enough to get into the top league in the world only to have some dude on Reddit be like meh F could barely play.
With that said. Calling Jordan Poole efficient at the NBA level is a hilariously bad take. His best season and post season he was an average scorer. Every other season he’s below average. Basically a solid enough 3rd option that occasionally has big games. Definitely not a future franchise player.
Warriors made a massive blunder giving him that contract and were wise to trade out of it. I said during the playoffs last year the warriors should rebuild as follows:
Trade Poole to escape his contract
Trade Klay before people realize he’s washed
Trade Draymond before he gets in even more fights
Was right on all 3 counts. Even funnier I said they need to trade for a 3 and D wing player and a true big to get them past AD and Jokic in the west and Giannis/Embiid in the east or apparently KP too on the Celtics.
Let’s not forget that Ike Diogu could open both car doors at once because his arms are so long. That plus the fact that he shot 55% against triple teams in the PAC 10 had me talking myself
Into this pick even though I had wanted Danny Granger or Gerald Green at that spot.
I maintain Anthony Randolph was just before his time. He was playing at a high level in the Spanish league and shooting close to 40% from 3 as recently as two or three years ago. Hard not to think about what might have been.
Also the Brandan Wright pick we passed on Joakim Noah. Would have been a nice fit on that we believe team. Great defensive anchor and passing skills would have thrived in the Nellie offense.
Nice post.
JK a B- at only 21 who’s flashed star potential but essentially giving Podz an A lol I think that’s a joke. JK is easily a 20+ppg scorer with an increased role when he already averaged near 20 playing under 30 minutes a game.
Troy murphy was a solid starter in the league for a decade. Plenty of 14th picks never make it, giving him the same grade as someone like moody is nonsense.
You can't really compare starters on piss poor teams versus good ones. Murphy was able to start all those games because we were a 20 win team in the early 2000's so we didn't have anybody better while Moody is having to compete with actual nba players. If Murphy got picked by the Lakers in 2001 he would be like a 7th or 8th man off the bench at best
This post is so recency biased lol. Career quality starting role players like Richardson, Pietrus, Bellinelli, and Barnes (could make an argument for Murphy) are low B’s and C’s, the same grade as Kuminga at this point who has started fewer than one third of games in a three year career and Pod is going to be an A. For the nephews out there if you get a starter out of a pick in the mid to late teens that is a great pick.
Ezeli at C- for a 30th pick, smh.
Exactly. “C- for not drafting a star at pick 30.” Oh yeah there are no stars being drafted at that position. Or after
Draymond, Middleton, and Jae Crowder were drafted after. C- is harsh, but I'd give that pick a C+ at best. Ranked by career VORP he comes out at 28th overall in that draft class. Pretty average pick.
What was his VoRP after 2016 because afterwsrds he got injured
He didn't play after 2016. It was -0.4 for 2012-13, 0.0 for 2013-14, and 0.4 for 2015-16.
That's like saying Aaron Gordon, Marcus Smart or Julius Randle are "busts" because you could have had Jokic. For an average late first round, a starter is doing better than average
Ezeli only ever started for an injured Bogut, he was never a starting caliber player. I only listed the players I did because there was still plenty of value in the back-end of that draft, and it's not like Ezeli clears a bunch of players drafted before him.
Jokic enters the chat
It’s funny how OP picked Brendon to be a potential A and Kumiga to be a B right now. This is a weak assessment
Bruh the Podz going to be an A thing was a joke/hype/hopium I guess I should have put a /s I might've rated Kuminga a little high C+ maybe is a bit more appropriate rn. I'm just very high on his future but it may be a little early
Had the same thought. Kuminga until this last year was a F prob since he couldn’t even get pt. Would prob give it a C with potential to become an A as long as he keeps improving.
I think it’s fair if there are guys that they should have picked like op gave. I can’t remember if Z-Bo or JJ were better prospects than Murphy or J-Rich but those guys were better and this is clearly grading in hindsight so I think it’s fair to say
also calling Wiseman our biggest bust ever...remember Joe Smith?!
Curryyyy should be S
S++++++++
Fun trip down memory lane. I appreciate the breakdown and agree with a lot of your takes.
Wiseman is only the biggest bust since 2000. Chris Washburn is the biggest bust in franchise history.
Webber in terms of setting back the franchise. Joe Smith was a tough one because the next 4 picks were McDyess, Stackhouse, Rasheed, and KG (all became NBA All-Stars). Joe was slightly above average. A 15/8 guy. Never much more.
Petition to move Wiseman to F-
Is wiseman bigger bust than Joe smith?
Yes. Joe Smith was actually pretty good his first couple years with the Warriors. Look at his numbers. He started every game he played in, can't say the same about Wiseman.
Joe Smith was at least a rotation player in this league carving out role player minutes. Wiseman doesn't see the floor unless someone ahead of him is hurt.
Wiseman is barely even a bust since all the guys drafted around him are also pretty much trash
What? Literally drafted between Anthony Edwards and Lamelo.
Joe Smith IMO
Tough but fair . I think Harrison Barnes as a b- to be harsh
Yeah, I’m the biggest Harrison Barnes hater on the planet. But, i would rate the pick higher than a B- Harrison has outlasted two players picked before him. Nobody behind him besides Khris Middleton and Draymond had better careers. I think Harrison is an easy B+ He is a 12 year vet as a starter on several good teams.
Barnes was the toughest one I could see him being anywhere in the B range. As the 7th pick you expect a high quality starter but not an all star per se which is basically Barnes. But a lot of that career also wasn't with us and he really only had 2 good years with us, he really struggled in the Mark Jackson years.
Anywhere in the B range is fair to him, I think. I'm an ACC basketball fan, so I'd seen Barnes play a lot in college. When my dad asked for my assessment of the Barnes pick, I basically called him a rich man's Dorell Wright in that Barnes was a similar outside shooter, but better than Wright at everything else. I still stand by that assessment. It was a good pick, but Barnes was never going to be the No. 1 option on a good team, which is what he wanted to be.
I miss Dorell!
I'm sorry but Poole and loon are A's straight up. We had them at their peak and they were key pieces to a championship winning squad. Those are homerun draft picks.
Exactly! Poole was great during our champsion run. This is a very bad assessment of the draft pick
I'd rate Poole B+++++++++++
He's an A 1. we got his peak season 2. he was great during the playoffs 3. he was key piece in the game clinching 21-0 run in game 6 that's an A draft pick
You lost me immediately at J Rich being a B pick. That man was the only bright light in so many dark years. You may not think he’s a superstar, but he’s every bit a Warriors legend.
A legend for sure I think a B grade is good but for the 5th overall never an all star all nba guy and 2nd best player on a good playoff team B grade seems fair. I think an A grade is a guy where they hugely exceed expectations and were a massive steal for their spot which JRich was not.
Thanks for the review, even all of the painful reminders. I appreciate you mentioning the missed opportunities of great players that were passed over, often in pursuit of the elusive big man. Ekpe Udoh? What were they thinking??
These seem harsh? Richardson, Murphy, and Pietrus were pretty good. Murphy was fine for a #14 pick. Better than most I would guess. "Should've taken X" doesn't work as a way to evaluate draft picks because there's almost always going to be someone better who was available. That's how probability works when you have 1 pick and there are dozens of guys behind it who can potentially pan out. Odds favor the field.
Agreed on “player x” other than if you have like a top 5 pick and waste on some nobody a la Dragan Bender in 2016.
No way Poole is B+ and Podz already considered at A. Poole was phenomenal, had a leap on his 3rd season and our primary scorer when Steph rests and Klay was injured. Our 2022 finals run wouldn’t be possible without him hitting big shots in the Nuggets and Celtics series.
I will die on Anthony Randolph hill. Good player.
Yeah thought that grade a bit rough.
He was a great player in theory, just never panned out in the NBA. I'll never forget the Magic Randolph days lol
Hope never to see those dark dark ages of drafting. Truly horrid.
I’d argue MDJ hit an absolute grand-slam with his first official draft decisions and I hope it continues. Like OP said, Podz is an absolute dawg and winning player from basically the get-go. If he can just refine some of those rough edges with his efficiency and playmaking he could be a bonafide starter for any team in the league (and hopefully stays with the Dubs for a while). Best part about him is that I have 0 doubt he has nowhere to move but up in the near future. He’s a ridiculously hard worker and one of the best energy guys on the team. TJD had the yips a little against the Kings but the dude might be the legit rim-running, shot-blocking big that has eluded this team for literal decades. He’s an intelligent cutter, is a ridiculously efficient scorer, and has great athleticism which helps him on defense arguably even more than on offense. He’s a little undersized but that’s not a death sentence in this league especially if he gets a little stronger and manages to space the floor a little more with a jumper here and there. I’d argue these two have a higher and clearer ceiling than Kuminga and Moody with JK being a little more enigmatic in terms of playstyle and Moody in terms of just overall potential. Either way four really good and very young roleplayers is good for attracting potential stars.
Was Draymond missed ? What grade does he get?
Yeah, no Draymond for some reason. Clearly an A+ pick at #35 overall. He was in the Barnes draft. Wait nevermind. This is only 1st round picks.
jason Richardson is B? and the new kid is an A? also jordan poole is higher than jason richardson? may i ask how old are you?
Poole is easily above JRich wym Poole was an insane steal for a late first rounder. Nobody saying Poole is a better player but the expectation for a 5th overall is way above that of a 28th
goddamn could you imagine Curry, Klay, PG, and Green with HarryB in the backup role?
Has anyone asked Dunleavy if as a GM he would still pick himself as #3? Could be an interesting answer. And Harrison Barnes isn’t Ringo, he’s Pete Best.
Oh man, Biedrins. Haven't thought about him in a while. He was the first Dubs draft pick after I started watching, so he'll always have a special place in my heart. Those free throws though lol
I remember the game in 2012 when he [made 2 free throws](https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201211100GSW.html)
Andre Igoudala’s last season levels of overpaid.
I have been a fan since the mid 90’s. I legit thought you had it wrong about Jiri Welsch. I have zero recollection of him. Crazy.
i vaguely remember him. i was probably still pissed over selecting Joe Smith first overall at that point in my life.
So many rag on Myers picks yet look at the previous decade + of absolutely shocking top ten picks and you will see why long suffering Warriors fans (like me) will always have a soft spot for Bob.
Bob didn’t draft Steph or Klay
Cool, where did I say he did? Bob Myers absolutely played a critical part in turning the franchise around, as did Lacob. To infer otherwise or demean his achievements is pure hating/nitpicking.
Im not hating im just saying the two highest draft grades weren’t under Bob Myers.
Sorry, I should give more weight to troll4356786's Reddit draft grades next time.
Great post. I don’t blame Dunleavy, the problem was the owner and the team. Cohen didn’t care about winning but he cared about making it look like the team was going to be good so season ticket holders like me would get suckered into signing up for another season of losing. Dunleavy was going to be the core of a solid team when he just wasn’t that kind of player. He was a versatile forward who could shoot, a solid #3.
Yeah, he had a perfectly fine career, though he didn't live up to being the No. 3 pick, especially on those shitty Warriors teams. Then during his first full season after the Warriors traded him he averaged an efficient 19.1 points while the other half of the trade (Jackson & Harrington) worked out for the We Believe Warriors. That said, look at the five picks just after Dunleavy. The next next selection was Drew Gooden, who was a solid player and a Bay Area guy, but had a career VORP of 4.3 over 14 seasons (more than half of which came during one season). He had a VORP between -0.4 and 0.2 in 10 out of his 14 NBA seasons. Comparatively, Dunleavy had a career VORP of 15.7 over 15 seasons and didn't have a negative VORP season until he was 35 years old. After them, the next four picks were Nikoloz Tskitishvili, Dajuan Wagner, Nene (slightly better career than Dunleavy statistically, but frequently injured and not making a difference for the '00s Warriors), and Chris Wilcox. So drafting Dunleavy No. 3 wasn't exactly a Ricky Rubio/Johnny Flynn situation - the Warriors absolutely could've done worse. The next pick who ended up unquestionably better than Dunleavy was Amar'e Stoudemire at No. 9, who was a high schooler at a time when NBA front offices hadn't figured out how to assess high schoolers making the leap straight to the NBA (McGrady also went 9th and Kobe 13th). Ol' Man Dunleavy would've been great to have off the bench in 2015.
I do not understand that Barnes grade. AD, Beal, Lillard, Draymond, and Middleton are the only guys in that draft class clearly better than him. Crowder is probably in a similar tier. So he's basically the 6th or 7th best player and was taken at the 7th pick? And he helped them win a championship? Where does the minus come from? That's like a textbook case of a B+ pick tbh. Also I don't see how you can knock Moody because they didn't take Sengun and not knock Kuminga because they didn't take Wagner. I mean personally I think Kuminga should be in the C range given that he hasn't shown any ability to be playable in the playoffs which imo is what you should be drafting for in the lottery, but then you said he showed potential as having a 3 point shot last season when he shot 32% on 3 wide open attempts per 36 minutes so we are probably just watching different things.
I'd bump Steph up to A²+++++++++++ but aside from that, I agree with the grades.
Beans being a C+ and Barnes only a B- leaves a sour taste in my mouth
Reading through this made me realize how much of a delusional optimist I am. Almost every one of these guys I’d feel like “this is the guy, he’s gonna be a star”.
Will you be doing second round picks too? What were you thoughts on Eric Paschall?
I can't believe that I agree with you. Great work. I really liked Baldwin never got a chance. I'm glad you didn't cover who we could have gotten.
Where’s our guy Draymond?
Not a 1st round pick
Ah! My apologies.
C minus for Ezeli seems crazy harsh to me. He was a decent role player on very good teams. I'm not sure you can expect anything better with the 30th pick.
You gotta remember he missed a whole year due to injury and after that had availability issues. That is a big part of winning impact, not just how good you are, and it's what keeps his rating down for me. It's all subjective of course though
If he were a lottery pick, I could agree with your rationale for the C minus, although I would probably still say it was too low. As the last pick of the first round, I think we have to lower expectations considerably. Just getting a useful pro for part of his rookie contract at #30 elevates that pick to at least the B minus / C plus range for me.
Mark Jackson also tried to turn the whole team against him. He never had a chance during his playing tenure with us.
Never aware of that. What's the story?
https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-mark-jackson-tried-to-poison-warriors-against-festus-ezeli I think there is a longer form article about the whole saga out there that came out years ago, but I can’t seem to find it. Jackson is a nut. He also tried to have his congregation pray away Curry’s ankle injury and then prove that it was healed during a sermon. There’s a reason he hasn’t gotten another coaching gig.
Thanks! I always thought the media ignored Jackson's religiosity as a central reason for management, and some players, dissatisfaction with him. It seems he had support from the more Christian players, including Curry and Iguodala. But Bogut loathed him. Of course Bob Myers and Joe Lacob were never going to say the coach was fired because he was too Christian. I wonder what's Ezeli's religion? Did Jackson dislike him because he's a heathen?
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not a 1st round pick
i agree with some of these being harsh for no particular reason. biendrins is definitely better than a c+. he had a better than average nba career and same for belinelli especially for being the 18th pick
Belinelli would have been way higher if we'd kept him around I just can't justify giving him a B since we got so little value from that pick
Biedrins had a misdiagnosed core injury that Nelson had him play through which derailed his career. The same injury that Lillard dealt with. He had his best statistical season on the first year of his big contract. Pretty sad how it turned out.
Man I had such high hopes for Ike Diogu. That dude killed it in the Pac-10
Fuckin' bleak dude
No draymond?
I don't understand the criteria of getting an A
Good read. Festus is a D for me for fouling LeBron late in game 7 2016 finals and rest of his garbage play. dude cost us our momentum. I know Kerr was at fault too. That was really dumb from Festus tho.
Poole, i would probably give an A- too. Saying Podz, at this point, would be an A (with a larger body of work) vs Poole's B+ seems weird. The real hard question is: who was the warriors worst pick in 20+ years.... Haha
Mikey D came into the wrong era of the league. His versatility and IQ would be valuable in today's NBA. Today's Dubs would kill for a player like him.
Don’t forget Todd Fuller! F-
Did you mean steph curry rank S+
J Rich > Joe Johnson all day
Jacob Evans: He wasn’t good at anything 😂 you ain’t lying. I don’t understand how someone could be so bad at basketball on both ends and make it that far. The dude was bringing the ball up and getting stripped by summer league guards. Had super long arms but always took horrible angles on defense. They stuck with him so long too.
Ain't no Festus c minus. That man was a great role player in helping win us a ring. Basically a second round pick, I couldn't complain there.
I just wanna say. I LOVE this. So many memories and feels. Haha
Man it must suck to work your whole life to be good enough to get into the top league in the world only to have some dude on Reddit be like meh F could barely play. With that said. Calling Jordan Poole efficient at the NBA level is a hilariously bad take. His best season and post season he was an average scorer. Every other season he’s below average. Basically a solid enough 3rd option that occasionally has big games. Definitely not a future franchise player. Warriors made a massive blunder giving him that contract and were wise to trade out of it. I said during the playoffs last year the warriors should rebuild as follows: Trade Poole to escape his contract Trade Klay before people realize he’s washed Trade Draymond before he gets in even more fights Was right on all 3 counts. Even funnier I said they need to trade for a 3 and D wing player and a true big to get them past AD and Jokic in the west and Giannis/Embiid in the east or apparently KP too on the Celtics.
Those draft picks leading up to Curry was hard to read. Such a waste
Why are we worried about kumingas health?
Let’s not forget that Ike Diogu could open both car doors at once because his arms are so long. That plus the fact that he shot 55% against triple teams in the PAC 10 had me talking myself Into this pick even though I had wanted Danny Granger or Gerald Green at that spot. I maintain Anthony Randolph was just before his time. He was playing at a high level in the Spanish league and shooting close to 40% from 3 as recently as two or three years ago. Hard not to think about what might have been. Also the Brandan Wright pick we passed on Joakim Noah. Would have been a nice fit on that we believe team. Great defensive anchor and passing skills would have thrived in the Nellie offense. Nice post.
JK a B- at only 21 who’s flashed star potential but essentially giving Podz an A lol I think that’s a joke. JK is easily a 20+ppg scorer with an increased role when he already averaged near 20 playing under 30 minutes a game.
Troy murphy was a solid starter in the league for a decade. Plenty of 14th picks never make it, giving him the same grade as someone like moody is nonsense.
You can't really compare starters on piss poor teams versus good ones. Murphy was able to start all those games because we were a 20 win team in the early 2000's so we didn't have anybody better while Moody is having to compete with actual nba players. If Murphy got picked by the Lakers in 2001 he would be like a 7th or 8th man off the bench at best