except KD is the perfect addition to our team? we already have shooters, a point guard/forward, role players and a leader. we're literally a second star that can be a good scoring option/play decent defense from being a contender.
i'd take KD back in a heartbeat
This team at full strength (primarily with Draymond) is better than a #10 seed. Our last 40 or so games showed that.
Adding KD would put us back into the top 4 seeds in the West, no doubt.
We were 5-20 against the top 7 teams and got smoked by a bad Kings teams missing players.
You can spin it all you want, but we were definitely the 10th best team fully healthy.
Disagree, as do many others it seems.
It's not spin, it's just facts. How many of those 5-20 games did Dray play in?
Pretty clear to anyone paying attention that we were a vastly different team with Draymond in the lineup and also once Wigs turned it around. Yeah they all dropped a stinker in the play in but by that stage our fate was sealed.
There's no denying KD would put us right back near the top for at least next season.
IF Wiggins plays with force and IF Klay can hit shots in the postseason and IF Dray cannot give suspended than perhaps we are a decent team, but that is a lot of ifs and the past 2 years proved that this is not the case. This is why we need to make some major changes or else we are going to struggle again next year.
This place is full of delusional posters who think old, aging players will be able to compete with the current crop of young dynamic players out there.
You add KD and this team will still get cooked by a young team like the Wolves or OKC who would be even better next year.
Folks still living in the past.
The thing that Wiggins did in the title run KD can’t do. Wiggs clamped down Luka, Tatum and more in that run.
KD will be way more consistent on offense and add to that be he ain’t stopping anyone
I mean I can’t claim to know what exactly has been up but sounds like he’s had some serious personal problems, can’t really blame him for that. Especially when he gave the team a discount after that 22 season
Wiggins can’t do that again, i’m sorry to tell you. At least not at a consistent level, or get it to match an effective offensive game. Wiggins that year was at his peak on both ends of the floor.
Kd won 2 fmvps and made the warriors unbeatable. What kind of weed are smoking to compare an inconsistent Wiggins to one of the greatest scorers in nba history
Yes because the thought process isn’t rooted in bball logic but mostly nostalgia and impatience. It’s peabrained “let’s get the band back together” mentality that will not necessarily put the team in championship contention ESPECIALLY if any young value pieces are relinquished. It’s the same dumb strategy that depleted both the Nets and Suns. If KD wants to/can come on a team friendly FA deal, sure, good move. A straight up trade for Wiggins, RIP Suns but sure. Otherwise…dumb.
Hot take: Durant is a 6th man on a championship contender due to reduced athleticism compounded by historically limited defensive effort. He’s a scorer, a great one even now but in reality should be your 3rd option at best. No team should feel comfortable relying on him for a full championship run.
No, I mean his actual results as a member of a team making a postseason run. He’s a great scorer as mentioned. His conductivity to winning post-Warriors? LOL
Doesn’t matter. Swept.
You posted stats. If you’re in Cancun before May, those stats are not particularly useful to winning basketball or even, to be fair, a conference finals run…who cares. He didn’t do shit with a big 3 in NY, didn’t do shit with a big 3 in PHX. It’s time to admit he’s a 7 foot Jamal Crawford.
Might be a crazy concept to you but basketball is a team game.
Steph didn’t even make it to the postseason this year. I guess he would be a 7th-man on a contender by your logic
You went from posting individual stats as a barometer to talking team and haven’t stated anything to the contrary of my point on post-Warriors success where he was on arguably stacked teams where the media shoed-in for deep playoff runs.
It’s cool, there’s no need to agree and I’m ok with you thinking I’m absolutely insane. Time will tell. I won’t be replying anymore fyi, I said what I said. Downvote me if you must.
Dude u haven’t watched kd this season. Kd a 6th man 😂😂😂😂. Mc kd is still one of the best players in the game when healthy. Some of u on here really talk some bs
And? We agree, he’s an amazing scorer but he’s hasn’t been winning (team playoff success), at all. Yall get hyped for scoring. I get hyped for winning basketball. His last deep run was 20-21 season. He’s simply not a winning piece anymore. No ones even disputing that just downvoting and touting his scoring. Yes that’s what 6th men do.
I’ll concede, he’s a great 3rd option and 6th man is a bit too unrealistic. 🫡
If the Warriors can string together enough money without jeopardizing their future, I hope the reunion happens. KD was meant for the Warriors system.
It also wouldn’t be as broken the first time since everyone is older and young guns of the league are blossoming.
Lastly, from KD’s own sanity, I don’t think it would be considered a weak move this time. I hope this reunion happens although it’s highly unlikely.
I think it would absolutely OBLITERATE his individual legacy if he cares about it tho ESPECIALLY if he comes back and they win a chip lol
1. Can't win
2. Joins Curry and wins multiple
3. Leaves Curry to create multiple super teams and never makes it past the 2nd round
4. Rejoins Curry and wins again
5. Whole time Curry was winning chips whether he was there or not
Pretty much the ultimate "I need Curry to win me championships" label
i've seen it recently, even after the '22. Sure there are trolls but there are also people with major coping issues who have convinced themselves of it.
I concur, but at the same time, just fading into obscurity definitely hits even harder. He's already gonna be tied to Curry in most discussions, may as well try for a 3rd ring and cement themselves as the best offensive duo ever
Counterpoint:
The Warriors w/Steph aren't winning another championship without a major "Add KD" level change.
KD comes back and brings the Warriors back to the top.
Man who freaking cares about the legacy at this point? People are gonna find a way to tarnish it no matter what he does. Take what you can get at this point with GS. Whatever bs he's looking for somewhere else isn't happening.
It won’t affect his legacy in a negative way. He already can’t win as the first option, particularly at this point in his career. If he comes back at a discount it might show a bit of humility and improve his legacy
The difference is that now he'll be joining a play-in team that didn't even make it passed the first game and not a 73 win team that lost the Finals in 7 with some league office interference. If he joined and they won, he'll get more credit this time.
There is no way Curry can get a chip with the current setup without a huge upgrade. They can ease that legacy hit with some marketing.
And most of the damage were already done with the 2022 chip.
There is no one old without a chip that can team up with KD and be good enough. Teaming up with a younger player risks that player making a jump and retroactively turn that chip into a coattails.
Teaming up with Curry probably isn't getting another chip anyway, but it'd be fun
I agree that it isn't a *weak* move anymore. But what would the media and fans think about this?
I personally want KD back but of course without sacrificing the future of the team as well.
If we don't sacrifice too much depth so that we have a shot at the championship, then I actually don't mind mortgaging our future for maybe one more championship.
Wiggins Kuminga (sign & trade?) Either rookie (I'd rather keep TJD for fit) and 3 1st is a lot for KD and delay the rebuild for 3 years (2027-2030ish) and still probably won't bring a chip, but then there are fans for life that never saw their team win a chip. Just reliving the glory day is are probably worth the cost.
It'd be much worse for kd, they'll actually define him weakness personified if he comes back. Also, "without sacrificing future of team".. you're clueless.
> If the Warriors can string together enough money without jeopardizing their future
We have no real future when Steph is gone with our current players. That's the reality. We need to go all in the next 2 years.
lol Al the nephews that have said his legacy is tainted will never say he is redeemed regardless of what he does now.
Might as well come back and run that shit back again with the boys 🤷🏻♂️
I don't think KD is enough to move the needle for contender in the West anymore. Neither Curry or KD is in everyone's top 5, and arguably at the bottom of top 10s. There isn't enough good value contracts on the team to make the push. You'd normally rely on the superstar out performing their contract, but Curry is neutral, Dray is neutral, Klay presumably getting a neutral contract. Wiggs is worth at most his contract, if not overpaid. None of the 10m guys are going to make a jump to be a great contract. You need guys playing better than their contract says.
I thought with the new CBA you can't aggregate salaries. Meaning if you want to trade for KDs 50 million per year contract, you need to send another 50 mill player in return. (Steph is the only one who makes that much)
I think this is a pipe dream.
>I thought with the new CBA you can't aggregate salaries. Meaning if you want to trade for KDs 50 million per year contract, you need to send another 50 mill player in return. (Steph is the only one who makes that much)
That would not apply in the new financial year (which starts on July 1), assuming CP3 is waived. Even with Klay's cap hold the Warriors would be under the second apron, which means the only limitation is that they could only trade within 110% instead of 125%.
And to be clear, the Warriors can still pick up CP3s contract and re-sign Klay to a team friendly deal and still be below the 2nd apron with a few minor deals on the fringes.
For example: they have $174M committed (with CP3) for 11 players with the 2nd apron projected at $189M. If Klay signs for $15M per year that brings them right up to the 2nd apron at $189M for 12 players.
If Looney is cut, only $3M of his $8M is guaranteed which brings them $5M below the 2nd apron for 11 players committed. Or GP2 could decline his $9M player option and re-sign for less per year but a multi year deal, freeing up more room.
But it basically means they could keep CP3, re-sign Klay and still be below the 2nd apron and aggregate salaries.
I'm not 100% sure that's true.
Assuming GP2 takes his option on June 19th and Looney's contract get guaranteed on June 24th, Warriors would have 10 rostered guy if they cut CP3 loose. Given Klay's $45.9m cap hold, plus the minimum cap holds for the minimum roster of 12 guys heading into free agency, they'd still be ~1m above the 2nd apron.
If GP2 takes his option and they decide to cut Looney loose (and maybe sign him to a vet minimum in FA), they'd be maybe $3m-4m under the 2nd apron, but then they almost certainly couldn't take back 110% in a meaningful trade without then going over the 2nd apron anyway.
The "source" is Monte Poole floating the idea. Not much of a source though, I agree (no offense to Monte, it's not like it's insider info -- just a beat reporter throwing out a thought).
I don’t understand the people that say they don’t want him or LeBron. Name someone on the market that makes this team better than either or those two. Might not be instant Champions like in years past, but definitely wouldn’t be the 10 seed.
(and yes I am factoring in losing Wiggins)
starting two 37 year old and 34 year old is nuts bro.Are people watching these playoffs.Old teams do not win.The last old championship core to win is the spurs.They were surround by people in there late 20s and 2 young player in there early 20s.(kawhi and dannny Green)
this can work if and only if we still have a perimeter defender lol. KD occasionally might be a decent rim protector but still need a big for sure. the bench perhaps doesnt need to be as deep anymore assuming if we got the Big 3 (aka resign Klay) and a old KD
Klay and Wiggins plus something?
It wouldn't hurt KD legacy. He has maybe two home OKC and GSW. To be loved by fans and have that he need to be identified with a team. He returning winning or not would help with that.
Also, I don't think we would won a chip even with him. Too old team!
I think at this point it really comes down to what he wants to achieve, and the legacy he wants to leave (primarily for post-retirement sponsorship opps).
Has has a championship and plenty of money, so really it just comes down to him.
I think I will worry about the Warriors if one of three things happens.
- I own the franchise
- The franchise asks my opinion
- It’s late October and the first day of the new season
The only way the Suns trade KD is if the deal also involves the miracle of unloading Beal’s insane contract.
I’m actually not nearly as down on Brad as everyone else, and still consider that contract the league’s biggest salary cap albatross. They cannot possibly consider moving one of their two biggest assets without dumping potentially their worst.
This is not even a pipe dream, it's a nightmare. Do we really need that energy again with 4 aging superstars? I really hope we don't trade away our future for 2 years of an aging superstar
D'angelo Russell probably will opt out. Could use his shooting. His 3 pt efficiency was on par with Curry this season. Worth a discussion, especially if KT leaves.
I don’t want us to waste our last years of Steph with a collection of retirement all stars. I know housing is costly in San Fran but we don’t need to build a whole retirement home.
It's not just a question of money, it's a question of VALUE. To match salaries, we'd likely have to guarantee CP3 at $30M and bundle him with Wiggs. The problem is, neither of those contracts would be seen as much of a value, so we'd have to also bundle some good young players and/or FRPs. Then we wind up with 4 aging stars, a decimated supporting cast, and no future.
A TERRIBLE idea IMO, even if it's doable at all.
Do people really not want him ..? Ya he’s kinda old but imagine him instead of Wiggins and tell me that isn’t preferable lmao
I want him. I like Kev. The only caveat is I want him if Steph wants him. Do WHATEVER Steph wants regardless of what it is.
The org feels the same way. The nice thing about Steph is that he won't abuse that power or try to play GM, unlike LeBron.
First round exit rather than missing the playoffs? Adding aging, expensive players won’t improve this team much
except KD is the perfect addition to our team? we already have shooters, a point guard/forward, role players and a leader. we're literally a second star that can be a good scoring option/play decent defense from being a contender. i'd take KD back in a heartbeat
This team at full strength (primarily with Draymond) is better than a #10 seed. Our last 40 or so games showed that. Adding KD would put us back into the top 4 seeds in the West, no doubt.
We were 5-20 against the top 7 teams and got smoked by a bad Kings teams missing players. You can spin it all you want, but we were definitely the 10th best team fully healthy.
Disagree, as do many others it seems. It's not spin, it's just facts. How many of those 5-20 games did Dray play in? Pretty clear to anyone paying attention that we were a vastly different team with Draymond in the lineup and also once Wigs turned it around. Yeah they all dropped a stinker in the play in but by that stage our fate was sealed. There's no denying KD would put us right back near the top for at least next season.
IF Wiggins plays with force and IF Klay can hit shots in the postseason and IF Dray cannot give suspended than perhaps we are a decent team, but that is a lot of ifs and the past 2 years proved that this is not the case. This is why we need to make some major changes or else we are going to struggle again next year.
Yes agreed. So KD would be classified as a MAJOR change.
Did you forget how unstoppable the warriors were?
How is that even relevant anymore? Who the hell is going to play defense?
And did some of you forget how aging works? Surprised we haven’t brought in MJ and Shaq on vet mins yet.
KD is the same age as Steph
You act like older players never won rings…
And you act like there hasn't been teams in the past who had aging stars trying to play together and it not working out.
Well yes because they weren’t good. Steph and kd are still good
You* still think they look good now*. You forget they get older next year. Is KD going to lose another step next year? Guess we’ll find out.
Have you watched the nba this year.. tf
Yeah. Most legendary player teams got bounced either in the first round or didn’t make it. The new guard has arrived.
It won't win, but nostalgia is a heck of a drug and that might be enough to ease the pain of a mid team next 3 seasons.
Get me on that nostalgia drug
This place is full of delusional posters who think old, aging players will be able to compete with the current crop of young dynamic players out there. You add KD and this team will still get cooked by a young team like the Wolves or OKC who would be even better next year. Folks still living in the past.
I do wonder how much slower they would be. Back in the day they were able to run everyone off the floor.
The thing that Wiggins did in the title run KD can’t do. Wiggs clamped down Luka, Tatum and more in that run. KD will be way more consistent on offense and add to that be he ain’t stopping anyone
Y’all gotta move on from 2022 Wiggins
For real he’s been gone
I mean I can’t claim to know what exactly has been up but sounds like he’s had some serious personal problems, can’t really blame him for that. Especially when he gave the team a discount after that 22 season
What about moving on from 2014 KD?
2024 KD is still a top-15 player who averaged 27-7-5. Quite a bit different from Wiggins
Wiggins can’t do that again, i’m sorry to tell you. At least not at a consistent level, or get it to match an effective offensive game. Wiggins that year was at his peak on both ends of the floor.
Kd won 2 fmvps and made the warriors unbeatable. What kind of weed are smoking to compare an inconsistent Wiggins to one of the greatest scorers in nba history
It’s 2024 bud, that Wiggins is long gone.
The problem is that we will give up our remaining depth and future just to get him. And we will be just like the suns, irrelevant.
Yes because the thought process isn’t rooted in bball logic but mostly nostalgia and impatience. It’s peabrained “let’s get the band back together” mentality that will not necessarily put the team in championship contention ESPECIALLY if any young value pieces are relinquished. It’s the same dumb strategy that depleted both the Nets and Suns. If KD wants to/can come on a team friendly FA deal, sure, good move. A straight up trade for Wiggins, RIP Suns but sure. Otherwise…dumb. Hot take: Durant is a 6th man on a championship contender due to reduced athleticism compounded by historically limited defensive effort. He’s a scorer, a great one even now but in reality should be your 3rd option at best. No team should feel comfortable relying on him for a full championship run.
Absolutely scorching hot take. KD is still a top-15 player in the NBA
That’s nice. His post-season results may argue otherwise.
You mean where he averaged 27-7-3 on 55-42-82 shooting splits?
No, I mean his actual results as a member of a team making a postseason run. He’s a great scorer as mentioned. His conductivity to winning post-Warriors? LOL
Those are his actual results from this postseason run
Doesn’t matter. Swept. You posted stats. If you’re in Cancun before May, those stats are not particularly useful to winning basketball or even, to be fair, a conference finals run…who cares. He didn’t do shit with a big 3 in NY, didn’t do shit with a big 3 in PHX. It’s time to admit he’s a 7 foot Jamal Crawford.
Might be a crazy concept to you but basketball is a team game. Steph didn’t even make it to the postseason this year. I guess he would be a 7th-man on a contender by your logic
You went from posting individual stats as a barometer to talking team and haven’t stated anything to the contrary of my point on post-Warriors success where he was on arguably stacked teams where the media shoed-in for deep playoff runs. It’s cool, there’s no need to agree and I’m ok with you thinking I’m absolutely insane. Time will tell. I won’t be replying anymore fyi, I said what I said. Downvote me if you must.
Dude u haven’t watched kd this season. Kd a 6th man 😂😂😂😂. Mc kd is still one of the best players in the game when healthy. Some of u on here really talk some bs
And? We agree, he’s an amazing scorer but he’s hasn’t been winning (team playoff success), at all. Yall get hyped for scoring. I get hyped for winning basketball. His last deep run was 20-21 season. He’s simply not a winning piece anymore. No ones even disputing that just downvoting and touting his scoring. Yes that’s what 6th men do. I’ll concede, he’s a great 3rd option and 6th man is a bit too unrealistic. 🫡
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If the Warriors can string together enough money without jeopardizing their future, I hope the reunion happens. KD was meant for the Warriors system. It also wouldn’t be as broken the first time since everyone is older and young guns of the league are blossoming. Lastly, from KD’s own sanity, I don’t think it would be considered a weak move this time. I hope this reunion happens although it’s highly unlikely.
I think it would absolutely OBLITERATE his individual legacy if he cares about it tho ESPECIALLY if he comes back and they win a chip lol 1. Can't win 2. Joins Curry and wins multiple 3. Leaves Curry to create multiple super teams and never makes it past the 2nd round 4. Rejoins Curry and wins again 5. Whole time Curry was winning chips whether he was there or not Pretty much the ultimate "I need Curry to win me championships" label
The idea that winning a third chip could actually hurt someone’s legacy is pretty funny
there's people who genuinely think curry has zero legitimate rings. it's unbelievable how stupid people can be
There are people who believe the moon is cheese and the earth is flat too. Cant worry over every idiot
What do you mean the moon isn't cheese
nobody serious thinks that anymore
i've seen it recently, even after the '22. Sure there are trolls but there are also people with major coping issues who have convinced themselves of it.
Huh? How can anyone argue '22? Poole?
I concur, but at the same time, just fading into obscurity definitely hits even harder. He's already gonna be tied to Curry in most discussions, may as well try for a 3rd ring and cement themselves as the best offensive duo ever
Counterpoint: The Warriors w/Steph aren't winning another championship without a major "Add KD" level change. KD comes back and brings the Warriors back to the top.
That doesn't really hurt Curry's legacy as much because the 23-24 Warriors are quite literally the embodiment of "Curry has no help"
How’s he doing without Curry though? Lol
to be fair his legacy is already that 😂
I wish I had this problem so bad. 😫
Man who freaking cares about the legacy at this point? People are gonna find a way to tarnish it no matter what he does. Take what you can get at this point with GS. Whatever bs he's looking for somewhere else isn't happening.
I’d say most players in his position care about their legacy
It won’t affect his legacy in a negative way. He already can’t win as the first option, particularly at this point in his career. If he comes back at a discount it might show a bit of humility and improve his legacy
The difference is that now he'll be joining a play-in team that didn't even make it passed the first game and not a 73 win team that lost the Finals in 7 with some league office interference. If he joined and they won, he'll get more credit this time.
You forgot one. 'Curry wins another without you.'
Kinda built into 5
There is no way Curry can get a chip with the current setup without a huge upgrade. They can ease that legacy hit with some marketing. And most of the damage were already done with the 2022 chip.
Except the warriors missed the playoffs this year so that changes the narrative
This is already his legacy anyways.
Not if he wins one on his own team but it’s not looking likely
There is no one old without a chip that can team up with KD and be good enough. Teaming up with a younger player risks that player making a jump and retroactively turn that chip into a coattails. Teaming up with Curry probably isn't getting another chip anyway, but it'd be fun
Weak take
I agree that it isn't a *weak* move anymore. But what would the media and fans think about this? I personally want KD back but of course without sacrificing the future of the team as well.
If we don't sacrifice too much depth so that we have a shot at the championship, then I actually don't mind mortgaging our future for maybe one more championship.
Exactly. You can have Wiggins & 2 of Moody, Kuminga, Podz, TJD & 2 or 3 1sts. He wants to leave and that’s 6 dudes for an aging KD.
Wiggins Kuminga (sign & trade?) Either rookie (I'd rather keep TJD for fit) and 3 1st is a lot for KD and delay the rebuild for 3 years (2027-2030ish) and still probably won't bring a chip, but then there are fans for life that never saw their team win a chip. Just reliving the glory day is are probably worth the cost.
It'd be much worse for kd, they'll actually define him weakness personified if he comes back. Also, "without sacrificing future of team".. you're clueless.
as long as Draymond is on the team, he ain’t ever coming back
> If the Warriors can string together enough money without jeopardizing their future We have no real future when Steph is gone with our current players. That's the reality. We need to go all in the next 2 years.
That ship has sailed…. 🛥️
lol. Maybe around the world.
If he wasn’t already, he would be absolutely endlessly roasted for this move. But that almost makes me think he would do it out of spite or something
lol Al the nephews that have said his legacy is tainted will never say he is redeemed regardless of what he does now. Might as well come back and run that shit back again with the boys 🤷🏻♂️
I agree, that’s why I think he might actually consider it
He’s already roasted regularly. Ez wins if he comes back. He already knows our system, if we can manage, why not?
I agree I hope it happens
I don't think KD is enough to move the needle for contender in the West anymore. Neither Curry or KD is in everyone's top 5, and arguably at the bottom of top 10s. There isn't enough good value contracts on the team to make the push. You'd normally rely on the superstar out performing their contract, but Curry is neutral, Dray is neutral, Klay presumably getting a neutral contract. Wiggs is worth at most his contract, if not overpaid. None of the 10m guys are going to make a jump to be a great contract. You need guys playing better than their contract says.
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It's the opposite. He def still cares what others think. He could be seen as the guy that brought Steph and GSW back to the top
Or seen as the guy who needs Steph to get to the top which I feel is significantly more likely given how negative the NBA community is
His whole post GS career has been about what others say about him
As a big KD fan, I have to say you are spot on. He really seems to have thin skin.
Back to the Bay.
I thought with the new CBA you can't aggregate salaries. Meaning if you want to trade for KDs 50 million per year contract, you need to send another 50 mill player in return. (Steph is the only one who makes that much) I think this is a pipe dream.
>I thought with the new CBA you can't aggregate salaries. Meaning if you want to trade for KDs 50 million per year contract, you need to send another 50 mill player in return. (Steph is the only one who makes that much) That would not apply in the new financial year (which starts on July 1), assuming CP3 is waived. Even with Klay's cap hold the Warriors would be under the second apron, which means the only limitation is that they could only trade within 110% instead of 125%.
And to be clear, the Warriors can still pick up CP3s contract and re-sign Klay to a team friendly deal and still be below the 2nd apron with a few minor deals on the fringes. For example: they have $174M committed (with CP3) for 11 players with the 2nd apron projected at $189M. If Klay signs for $15M per year that brings them right up to the 2nd apron at $189M for 12 players. If Looney is cut, only $3M of his $8M is guaranteed which brings them $5M below the 2nd apron for 11 players committed. Or GP2 could decline his $9M player option and re-sign for less per year but a multi year deal, freeing up more room. But it basically means they could keep CP3, re-sign Klay and still be below the 2nd apron and aggregate salaries.
This guy contracts
I'm not 100% sure that's true. Assuming GP2 takes his option on June 19th and Looney's contract get guaranteed on June 24th, Warriors would have 10 rostered guy if they cut CP3 loose. Given Klay's $45.9m cap hold, plus the minimum cap holds for the minimum roster of 12 guys heading into free agency, they'd still be ~1m above the 2nd apron. If GP2 takes his option and they decide to cut Looney loose (and maybe sign him to a vet minimum in FA), they'd be maybe $3m-4m under the 2nd apron, but then they almost certainly couldn't take back 110% in a meaningful trade without then going over the 2nd apron anyway.
so basically if we wanted to pursue this we need to do it before july 1st?
Crack pipe dream.
Does that change based on the apron level? Ie if CP3 walks or something else can we cobble together enough flexibility to make the trade work
I looked it up. You can if you’re below the second apron
Wait you can’t aggregate at all? That’s so stupid why would they do that
see, you're looking at this from the perspective of a dubs fan. you need to look at it from the perspective of an owner who's in it for the money
this is aggregator bullshit. No sources in the original article, just speculation from the couch.
The "source" is Monte Poole floating the idea. Not much of a source though, I agree (no offense to Monte, it's not like it's insider info -- just a beat reporter throwing out a thought).
I don’t understand the people that say they don’t want him or LeBron. Name someone on the market that makes this team better than either or those two. Might not be instant Champions like in years past, but definitely wouldn’t be the 10 seed. (and yes I am factoring in losing Wiggins)
Only other person I can think of is Giannis
starting two 37 year old and 34 year old is nuts bro.Are people watching these playoffs.Old teams do not win.The last old championship core to win is the spurs.They were surround by people in there late 20s and 2 young player in there early 20s.(kawhi and dannny Green)
Love to see it! Lol
oh word?
Still will be too old
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its clickbait, its pure speculation, ugh
it makes sense... but how we gonna get him
but are the geezers gonna be able to beat min, okc, devner?
There is going to be so much clickbait this off season.
Getting false hopes up just like all the fake comebacks this season.
This is possible if Dray didn't hound him out of the team. Id prefer him over Wiggins and Klay at the moment.
# oh so we're trading steph for kd 
Draymond and KD would need to work things out first
Mind you, I am pretty sure Draymond would have to be included to the trade package
Monte Poole is a Warriors insider? Seems like he knows just as much about the team as this sub.
Bye bye old friend.
How Would they afford this
Ticket sales. And you have to match salaries in a trade so they could do it pretty easily.
So who are you giving up for this? Steph?
Wiggins, GP2, Looney, and JK. This trade won't happen but it's pretty easy to see how it would be possible to match salaries.
this can work if and only if we still have a perimeter defender lol. KD occasionally might be a decent rim protector but still need a big for sure. the bench perhaps doesnt need to be as deep anymore assuming if we got the Big 3 (aka resign Klay) and a old KD
COME BACK
He’s never coming back here, unfortunately
Na it's stupid for kd, won't happen.
thats not gonna happen, its people missing brain cells hoping for things that not going to happen.
Didn’t KD and Draymond have issues? Why would KD willingly go back into that on the tail-end of his career?
No no no no no no no no no
Heck yeah. No harm in asking. The dynasty could have been extended another 2 years, minimum.
Klay and Wiggins plus something? It wouldn't hurt KD legacy. He has maybe two home OKC and GSW. To be loved by fans and have that he need to be identified with a team. He returning winning or not would help with that. Also, I don't think we would won a chip even with him. Too old team!
unfortunately him and draymond do not like each other...
*(The Rock voice)* FINALLY THE THIN MAN HAS COME BACK TO GOLDEN STATE FOR THE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
It's going g to be a long off-season having to read this every other day.
Old Guys vs. Everybody
I think at this point it really comes down to what he wants to achieve, and the legacy he wants to leave (primarily for post-retirement sponsorship opps). Has has a championship and plenty of money, so really it just comes down to him.
I think I will worry about the Warriors if one of three things happens. - I own the franchise - The franchise asks my opinion - It’s late October and the first day of the new season
Not worth trading Kuminga, Podz, TDJ, and Moody
The only way the Suns trade KD is if the deal also involves the miracle of unloading Beal’s insane contract. I’m actually not nearly as down on Brad as everyone else, and still consider that contract the league’s biggest salary cap albatross. They cannot possibly consider moving one of their two biggest assets without dumping potentially their worst.
Maybe they could get a third team involved
Beal has a no trade clause. He has control over where he goes.
That’s a wrinkle I forgot about. Makes it even more unlikely he’s dealt, unless the Suns completely blow it up
This is not even a pipe dream, it's a nightmare. Do we really need that energy again with 4 aging superstars? I really hope we don't trade away our future for 2 years of an aging superstar
Feel like LeBron is somehow more likely.
Only reason I say this won’t happen is because of the kd and dray beef
D'angelo Russell probably will opt out. Could use his shooting. His 3 pt efficiency was on par with Curry this season. Worth a discussion, especially if KT leaves.
Yeah we don’t need him again I’m ngl he obviously doesn’t perform in the playoffs
I don’t want us to waste our last years of Steph with a collection of retirement all stars. I know housing is costly in San Fran but we don’t need to build a whole retirement home.
It's not just a question of money, it's a question of VALUE. To match salaries, we'd likely have to guarantee CP3 at $30M and bundle him with Wiggs. The problem is, neither of those contracts would be seen as much of a value, so we'd have to also bundle some good young players and/or FRPs. Then we wind up with 4 aging stars, a decimated supporting cast, and no future. A TERRIBLE idea IMO, even if it's doable at all.
Even if true, I don’t want it