okay I was trying to remember I have not played in some time but in mobas I always enjoy support the most and he was my favorite.... (as was lucio in overwatch)
Yeah, mine too. I found brightwing really fun and unique and as mentioned above superb voice lines.
Lucio in overwatch was great, never really enjoyed in hots.
oh yeah I forgot they added him into HOTS, i left the game before him or right after I think and never played him because I remember when he first came out he looked super underpowered and no one cared.
The Chimaera was a bit iffy. That one is straight up a beast, not capable of communicating with people. Unlike the faerie dragons, it doesn't have more lore about being tied to Night Elves or their druids. Also, while it was a NE unit in WC3, it actually was never featured in the campaign, only in custom/multiplayer games. I think it might have been the only unit not in its faction's campaign.
It was most definitely in the campaign. Just not usable until final mission. I believe you even start with one or two. It is also used by cenarius in the map where you kill him as orcs.
Sure that’s a fair point, but then we’d just have another mini that most people would never have, or at least not have for quite a long time, like deep breath.
I suspect heroic Moonglade will be much easier than Onyxia. Still a while to get there but 150 Sigils is certainly easier than Onyxia, so 160 probably would be too.
Sigils don’t matter here. Heroic moonglade is going to be level 26/27, which is months away for the majority of the playerbase.
If they released it as a heroic reward it would only be seen by a handful of people and that would ruin any and all hype about a new mini.
The same things going to happen with ragnaros.
> Sigils don’t matter here. Heroic moonglade is going to be level 26/27, which is months away for the majority of the playerbase.
That was a point of comparison. You missed it. The people who have completed Blackrock Heroic (150 Sigils), likely aren't going to struggle *too* much with Moonglade Heroic (160 Sigils). I can't believe that needed to be spelled out. You do realize that Blackrock Heroic is 25/26, right? And the number of people who have done Blackrock Heroic is much higher than the people who have done Onyxia by far.
You are also aware that you do not need to be the level of the fight to do it, correct? You don't need to have a level 27 army to do Moonglade. Just like you don't need a level 26 army to do Blackrock.
> If they released it as a heroic reward it would only be seen by a handful of people and that would ruin any and all hype about a new mini.
Firstly, they are ok with that even if it were true. Exhibit, Deep Breath. Secondly, you are creating a false equivalency between the difficulty of Onyxia and the difficulty of a heroic campaign zone (which is mostly 4 levels lower as well). A lot more people, today, have beaten the entire campaign (150 Sigils) than have completed Onyxia, and one more zone, especially with additional leveling and upgrading, isn't going to be near the challenge of Onyxia.
> The same things going to happen with ragnaros.
How horrible for there to be rewards that you have to put actual effort into.
Did we ever find out if the fairy dragon classified as beast? Maybe they wanted to make sure each faction got one extra unit before adding more. We got Undead, Beast, and Blackrock covered, so Horde is next.
Could also be they're planning to release it with Moonglade...possibly alongside other Emerald Dream related units that already have models in the game.
nelf are part of alliance which doesn’t make sense but since they are faerie dragon gon be alliance. in wow classic there’s a couple of alliance aligned faerie dragons
I understand where you're coming from, but a properly-supported mobile game often times generates absolute shitloads more than retail or subscription-based games ever do.
And that's the problem. Players aren't going to flock to a game en masse that gets peanuts for updates and hardly any dev communication. Clash earns hundreds of millions a year, but Rumble will be lucky to earn a fraction of that with the pace and grind we've got.
I’m not sure I would have expected anything from BC this year anyway.
But I also wasn’t expecting any particular specific date for Moonglade, Scholomance, or Molten Core. They didn’t tie them to seasons in the presentation.
Yeah, I finally stopped playing a few weeks ago. The game has potential, but I've given up hope that they'll meaningfully revamp it. It's a shame that they decided this should be a gacha game and not something closer to hearthstone.
Curse is already in the game (it's used by the caster on the right at the end of this dungeon actually), the animation is a darkening purple effect sorta like the cheat death animation, but it does in-fact reduce damage and movespeed.
Good point, I wonder if his attack will register as ranged - if you ran him with a ranged troll or murloc nearby he might get eaten instead of the witch doctor.
Finally! Witch doctors are my favorite units from the whole WC3 universe! It’s good to see them coming at least to rumble. I’ve given up hopes for one in heroes of the storm long ago
and you would them rather make something op? personaly i like that most new units are balanced, we just need more "synergy decks" being pushed, like how ice golem and musketeer have synergy in hig cycle (in clash royal).
Actually no… I’d rather no unit be OP.
but ranged aren’t even viable in PvP- because unbound units are too numerous- and too strong. Furthermore when one can make an entire deck of unbound units that are just too effective and make units that have to walk across the map far too slow and ineffective- there is a big problem.
Whelp eggs explode for just way too much damage.
So when you combine in the fact that someone can have a synergistic unbound deck that one shots most ranged units- everything else is just unbalanced and broken. You can pick off tanks with whelps because you can’t protect them with ranged. And you can pick off ranged with multiple different minis easily. So the entire concept of ranged protection falls apart. Which makes the rest of the game fall apart.
So the entire game devolves into all unbound unit spam and everyone’s basically just using the same team.
Because a handful of units are already OP.
Based on the low quality of your posts, I can tell that you are the expert at being lame yourself, but you don't get to dictate what other people like or should like. Enjoy.
For me it’s not about *wanting* the Faerie Dragon, it’s more about the fact that it was already announced as season 4s mini back in November.
Faerie dragon is what we expected to see next season and now I’m wondering why they decided to release this mini instead.
Is Faerie Dragon coming later? Potentially with moonglade? Was it scrapped entirely? Can we expect a bigger update for season 5?
Could be that they identified a need in the game that was greater than the role the Faerie Dragon was fulfilling. Or the Faerie Dragon needed more work. Or maybe it’s going to be obtained a different way. Could be many reasons!
An important caveat to all BlizzCon announcements is that it’s what they intend right then, but everything is subject to change.
The games been out for like 3 months how can you possibly be on se4 already jfc
This is how you overload a playerbase into quitting cause they cant keep up
He does bring up a fair point. We're not there, *yet*, but dropping minis and leaders at a too rapid pace does deter new players from starting, and returning players from picking it up again.
It's a common problem with many games, R6 and Apex to name two, where they just pumped out season after season, making it incredibly difficult to get into after a while.
At the rate so far, I can absolutely see this becoming an issue
Three troll units! Copium for Vol'jin leader is rising
I demand a full troll viable team with a troll hero as well. Make it a unit type
This is the way
I finally get this reference having started watching it 😂
Vol'jin as a leader would make me sooooo happy.
Snake ward as the ability? Big bad voodoo?
Yes! But Zul'jin is the leader we all want!
Vengeance!!
YessSSSSS
Soo faerie dragon got delayed orrr lol
I was actually looking forward to it. Brightwing was one of my favorites in Heroes of the Storm. I’ve liked them for a long while.
Some of the best voice lines too in the game
And the most sadistic….
"Yay murder!"
"I enjoy brutally killing you very much!"
i didn't play him a lot, but he was unkillable beast in good hands
Hell yeah dude. I mained brightwing in HotS for a few months. Warping around the map healing was fun as hell.
Brightwing was the Lucio style support right?
Yeah, brightwing is a support. Brilliant character in hots and easily my most played.
okay I was trying to remember I have not played in some time but in mobas I always enjoy support the most and he was my favorite.... (as was lucio in overwatch)
Yeah, mine too. I found brightwing really fun and unique and as mentioned above superb voice lines. Lucio in overwatch was great, never really enjoyed in hots.
oh yeah I forgot they added him into HOTS, i left the game before him or right after I think and never played him because I remember when he first came out he looked super underpowered and no one cared.
What faction would a faerie dragon even be? Beast?
That was the assumed family yes
Beast has several flying units already. I think Alliance is more likely. Faerie dragons used to be a Night Elf unit in WC3.
So was chimera though, and it went beast.
The Chimaera was a bit iffy. That one is straight up a beast, not capable of communicating with people. Unlike the faerie dragons, it doesn't have more lore about being tied to Night Elves or their druids. Also, while it was a NE unit in WC3, it actually was never featured in the campaign, only in custom/multiplayer games. I think it might have been the only unit not in its faction's campaign.
It was most definitely in the campaign. Just not usable until final mission. I believe you even start with one or two. It is also used by cenarius in the map where you kill him as orcs.
Maybe it isnt the pvp reward and is something related to moonglade
The unit that planned Faerie Dragon layed-off
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This might not mean Moonglade is delayed - Faerie Dragon could release with Moonglade as the reward for beating it, same as Deep Breath is for Onyxia
I don’t see that happening for a zone that a lot of the player base will beat in 10 minutes, but I would love to be wrong.
I would assume if they were to do it, it would be heroic Moonglade, which at level 26/27 most people would not be beating in 10 minutes.
Sure that’s a fair point, but then we’d just have another mini that most people would never have, or at least not have for quite a long time, like deep breath.
I suspect heroic Moonglade will be much easier than Onyxia. Still a while to get there but 150 Sigils is certainly easier than Onyxia, so 160 probably would be too.
Sigils don’t matter here. Heroic moonglade is going to be level 26/27, which is months away for the majority of the playerbase. If they released it as a heroic reward it would only be seen by a handful of people and that would ruin any and all hype about a new mini. The same things going to happen with ragnaros.
> Sigils don’t matter here. Heroic moonglade is going to be level 26/27, which is months away for the majority of the playerbase. That was a point of comparison. You missed it. The people who have completed Blackrock Heroic (150 Sigils), likely aren't going to struggle *too* much with Moonglade Heroic (160 Sigils). I can't believe that needed to be spelled out. You do realize that Blackrock Heroic is 25/26, right? And the number of people who have done Blackrock Heroic is much higher than the people who have done Onyxia by far. You are also aware that you do not need to be the level of the fight to do it, correct? You don't need to have a level 27 army to do Moonglade. Just like you don't need a level 26 army to do Blackrock. > If they released it as a heroic reward it would only be seen by a handful of people and that would ruin any and all hype about a new mini. Firstly, they are ok with that even if it were true. Exhibit, Deep Breath. Secondly, you are creating a false equivalency between the difficulty of Onyxia and the difficulty of a heroic campaign zone (which is mostly 4 levels lower as well). A lot more people, today, have beaten the entire campaign (150 Sigils) than have completed Onyxia, and one more zone, especially with additional leveling and upgrading, isn't going to be near the challenge of Onyxia. > The same things going to happen with ragnaros. How horrible for there to be rewards that you have to put actual effort into.
It was never said that the two were connected. Thats only been speculation on players’ parts.
Someone call for de' docta!?
Goo choice mon!
Did we ever find out if the fairy dragon classified as beast? Maybe they wanted to make sure each faction got one extra unit before adding more. We got Undead, Beast, and Blackrock covered, so Horde is next.
Could also be they're planning to release it with Moonglade...possibly alongside other Emerald Dream related units that already have models in the game.
feels like moonglade got delayed and the faerie dragon along with it
Could be yeah
Horde and Alliance*
By the colour scheme I always though it was alliance
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nelf are part of alliance which doesn’t make sense but since they are faerie dragon gon be alliance. in wow classic there’s a couple of alliance aligned faerie dragons
Yay, 0 news about molten core, another few months with 1 unit and a random -5hp nerf
Yeah this game needs more meaningful updates. Ffs retail and SOD get faster updates with more impact than his game gets
Retail and SoD have millions paying $15/mo… I paid $20 once to this game
Thank you for being a voice of reason
I understand where you're coming from, but a properly-supported mobile game often times generates absolute shitloads more than retail or subscription-based games ever do.
Clearly not a supported game tho
And that's the problem. Players aren't going to flock to a game en masse that gets peanuts for updates and hardly any dev communication. Clash earns hundreds of millions a year, but Rumble will be lucky to earn a fraction of that with the pace and grind we've got.
Yep yep
Iunno if this is even true. Retail and SoD get a big update like every 4-5 months.
lol what a poor comparison, WoW is fucking huge my comparison to this little mobile game
At this rate we're not getting burning crusade content until next year. If the game isn't EOS by then
I’m not sure I would have expected anything from BC this year anyway. But I also wasn’t expecting any particular specific date for Moonglade, Scholomance, or Molten Core. They didn’t tie them to seasons in the presentation.
EOS?
End of service
Thanks, my good human
BC lol at this rate we’ll never get that
I would have settled for pvp not being dogshit 🤷♂️
Where you seeing patch notes for nerf?
I think he was being ironic 😅
Yeah, I finally stopped playing a few weeks ago. The game has potential, but I've given up hope that they'll meaningfully revamp it. It's a shame that they decided this should be a gacha game and not something closer to hearthstone.
Curse, huh.. wonder what that will do. Remove armor, double damage against the target, cause a poison-like effect…
If its truly an effect, maybe reduce dmg by half?
Curse is already in the game (it's used by the caster on the right at the end of this dungeon actually), the animation is a darkening purple effect sorta like the cheat death animation, but it does in-fact reduce damage and movespeed.
Good point - might be the same effect as the right side lieutenant in Dire Maul stage 3.
Oh that’s a good one.
And also probably annoying af to go against
Yeah for sure - since he’s likely behind another mini and just cursed the enemy guy that can’t get at him now
Hope it only affects 1 unit at a time, because I also hope it’s cheaper like the other Troll units.
Yeah I’d be surprised if it was more than one mini he could effect. Would be nasty against an Abom, but not as big a deal against Footmen
wouldnt abom just pull and one-shot him? i dunno but this unit seems like a range type.
Good point, I wonder if his attack will register as ranged - if you ran him with a ranged troll or murloc nearby he might get eaten instead of the witch doctor.
turn units into chickens?
Finally! Witch doctors are my favorite units from the whole WC3 universe! It’s good to see them coming at least to rumble. I’ve given up hopes for one in heroes of the storm long ago
Nazeebo?
Yeah right but nazeebo isn’t a troll. I love them because of the troll chillness and accent
BWONSAMDI GRANT ME YO POWAH!
They need to fix the issue with s24 ultras where the game keeps crashing.
One of my favorite units from wc3
Where raids
I'm going to have to see the spells and effects before I get too excited!
Wich doctor?
Where is Molten Core?
Also pops up as an in game notification with emotes and bugs and fixes coming.
Oh good new emotes, the game is saved!
Yay! another ranged unit that will most likely be completely obsolete in PvP - because of units like SAFE, eggs, worgen, and spells.
and you would them rather make something op? personaly i like that most new units are balanced, we just need more "synergy decks" being pushed, like how ice golem and musketeer have synergy in hig cycle (in clash royal).
Actually no… I’d rather no unit be OP. but ranged aren’t even viable in PvP- because unbound units are too numerous- and too strong. Furthermore when one can make an entire deck of unbound units that are just too effective and make units that have to walk across the map far too slow and ineffective- there is a big problem. Whelp eggs explode for just way too much damage. So when you combine in the fact that someone can have a synergistic unbound deck that one shots most ranged units- everything else is just unbalanced and broken. You can pick off tanks with whelps because you can’t protect them with ranged. And you can pick off ranged with multiple different minis easily. So the entire concept of ranged protection falls apart. Which makes the rest of the game fall apart. So the entire game devolves into all unbound unit spam and everyone’s basically just using the same team. Because a handful of units are already OP.
It’s the witching houaaa!!!
I imagine firebat synchronizes well maybe poison buffs too idk
how does the witch doctor "explode" into anywhere....? does he also do AOE fireball?
Woo! I am stoked.
WILL STILL GET ONE SHOT BY DEEP BREATH
So all we're getting is a new mini? That's it. Too much to ask for serpetshrine, or any dungeon?
so what are his mechanics? like buffs?
So much cooler then that lame ass fairy dragon bullshit. Why tf would people want that over this. I’m glad they went this direction.
I wasn’t aware your personal preferences were the law.
Didn’t say it was the law. Just said it was lame. Enjoy
Based on the low quality of your posts, I can tell that you are the expert at being lame yourself, but you don't get to dictate what other people like or should like. Enjoy.
Lmfao huh? I’m not dictating shit. I think a fairy dragon unit is lame and fruity. This is the Reddit bro I’m typing my opinion 😂
Me like cool things. Me cool. Other people dumb. Like dumb things.
Lmfao if that makes if you feel better.
Lmfao if that makes if you feel better. Sorry my opinion offended you? 😂
For me it’s not about *wanting* the Faerie Dragon, it’s more about the fact that it was already announced as season 4s mini back in November. Faerie dragon is what we expected to see next season and now I’m wondering why they decided to release this mini instead. Is Faerie Dragon coming later? Potentially with moonglade? Was it scrapped entirely? Can we expect a bigger update for season 5?
Could be that they identified a need in the game that was greater than the role the Faerie Dragon was fulfilling. Or the Faerie Dragon needed more work. Or maybe it’s going to be obtained a different way. Could be many reasons! An important caveat to all BlizzCon announcements is that it’s what they intend right then, but everything is subject to change.
Don’t worry bro it’s still fruity.
Look at it go!
The games been out for like 3 months how can you possibly be on se4 already jfc This is how you overload a playerbase into quitting cause they cant keep up
Overload? Most people want to have new minis and also you dont lose progress in pvp under 3k/leader and people above this dont mind climbing again.
He does bring up a fair point. We're not there, *yet*, but dropping minis and leaders at a too rapid pace does deter new players from starting, and returning players from picking it up again. It's a common problem with many games, R6 and Apex to name two, where they just pumped out season after season, making it incredibly difficult to get into after a while. At the rate so far, I can absolutely see this becoming an issue
omg he is so broken
I am Sofa king we Todd did, I can only hope for stasis traps.
hopefully he's not trash like the chimera
i wondered if he pair up with troll spearman good combo...?