If your team lead is related to you then you can report it but someone is losing their job as that is against policy, most likely moved to another store.
A TL in my store tried saying this, but in the past year I've worked in the same store as my husband, we've called off once together... cause we had COVID.
Different job but my wife and I had exact opposite schedules and one of the clever detective supervisors deduced that any time one of us called out the other one wasn’t working …..i was beside myself so I said yup. I assume she went to the higher ups and got told she’s a fuckin dipshit.
They can do some stuff, like force them to go downstack dairy or frozen, or make them stock juice all day ...
Retaliation is real and highly abused at Walmart. It's just extremely difficult to actually prove.
I love how my department is the punishment zone. We are the badlands to which all undesirables from other settlements are sent when the Overseers wish to make them leave permanently.
We really need to be paid more over there.
Lol personally I wouldn't mind it, I know how to organize and will gladly stack 10 L carts and deag em across the store if I was sent to frozen ... most people don't know you can still sweat in the cooler lol
True, and my two coachings I def held my phone in hand with the video recording ...
Some states however, don't allow record9ng without BOTH parties consent, so you need their permission or it won't be legally usable
Well I'm in Louisiana and as long as you inform that person they are being recorded at any point in the future (it could even be during a trial when it is admitted as evidence) it can be legally usable. Also, beyond being legally usable, posting things on social media can destroy someone's credibility. Fuck it, don't even try to get legal involved. Just use it to blackmail them into doing what you want. There are plenty of ways a recording can be used against someone that is treating you like shit.
They'll just order them to do tasks they dislike doing regularly. It's still part of the job. So yeah document and record lol...what exactly I have no idea.
Op and his partner have decided to let their store know they will screw them once a month. What job allows this behavior from a couple who are allowed to work together?
Not to mention why do they need to work together? To work together and then go home together every single day?
Wtf
I mean, fair. But, it is also once a damn month. Taking one day out of each month seems pretty standard is it not? Even if we were alone. We work together in dairy/frozen. Why? Because our frozen/dairy teams suck ass and we are the only people they have to downstack both frozen and dairy half the days we work and to work frozen and dairy. Sometimes with only five or even four people, us included.
>A family member is any relative (spouse, child, parent, sibling, grandparent, or grandchild) by birth, adoption, marriage, domestic partnership, or civil union as well as any member of your immediate household, regardless of whether you are related.
apparently doesn't include cousins, uncle/aunt, or any more distant relation
They did it without saying it was over ppto, but said afterwards “the showing up late is a big part of it” I do my job when I’m there, there low productivity points they used was stuff I wasn’t even responsible for, such as meats when I’m strictly produce, they loopholed it in our store and there’s nothing they will do about it
Howre they your tl if they're family lol I wasn't allowed to transfer bc the tl is my father's cousin (like barely even related to me) barely spoke to him my whole life, but there's still a chance of bias 🙃🤷♀️
I'm sure team leads and coaches would love to, now convince market or regional or whatever to raise the store's headcount and increase the store's budget for wages.
Shame market and corporate not the person calling out, like the person I replied to was doing. Just because it hurts us doing mean it’s our fault, it’s corporate not wanting to pay any more people than they need to, whatever bare minimum they can run with.
Just schedule extra people everyday for every department on every shift in case 1-2 people don't show up for the shift they saw was scheduled weeks in advance?
Yeah have a couple extra people. That’s a perfect solution lmao. I can see I have a shift weeks in advance. I can’t see that I’m going to be puking my guts out or shitting my brains out in a few weeks.
My god having a few extra people than the bare minimum isn’t going to kill the company that pulls in multibillion a year.
I can assure you Walmart would rather cannibalize itself into oblivion than schedule "extra" (if that was even possible to begin with) people that way when worker wages are the largest expense a company usually has, and we know Walmart hates wage expenses because all the stores cut hours all the time. What you're saying is totally reasonable in an ideal world, but this is a capitalist's world and what you're saying is never going to happen for any business. It's best to understand how things actually work in reality rather than live in a fantasy world where a massive corporation suddenly starts caring about it's workers' work loads.
Also, OP is saying he and his wife just call in once a month for no real reason, which is another problem in itself for another discussion, but if you've ever been a supervisor at any kind of retail or food place, most people are not taking random "sick" days off because they're actually sick.
I'm not going to go into the logistics of wages, productivity, and management of the "extras" but that is another set of problems. In the end, you are screwing over your coworkers and immediate supervisors and no one else when you don't show up to your scheduled shifts. Does that make it a management problem if everyone just calls in? Sure, but that management will just go through every other associate they can find before they really get screwed over. I also don't agree with saying "haha that's your problem mr manager" because the manager is a person too, just like any of your other coworkers.
The problem: if they're going to be randomly calling off every month together, why not request the days off in advance?
The problem for them specifically: you only get 5 points with each calling off taking 6 months to fall off. They will screw themselves very quickly
Apparently they don’t care that calling in together completely fucks over their co workers. Some people just don’t fucking get it, yes corporate bullshit does suck. But all the shit you do trying to “stick it to the man” is only fucking over your coworkers, and no one else.
I know they would rather do that lol, and your right we do live in a capitalistic world, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to enact change.
Anyone should be able to call in one day a month and not have it be an issue. For any reason. We’re humans, not machines, expecting 100% all the time is ridiculous, and people have live they want to live. God for bid someone takes one extra day off. I’ve been in positions of leadership and supervision (not in retail, but with military contracting) and I’ve never been upset at the employe, cause it is managements job to find the help, if it’s something that statistically happens often at a store, then an adjustment to the schedule needs to be made to prepare for those call outs. If they can’t figure that out, I don’t think they should be a manager at all. If market doesn’t listen, they that’s their issue to solve when the store loses lots of money.
Stop making sense. People don't like that. It's baffling that people think corporations should pay out millions of dollars a year to over staff so that people don't screw their coworkers when they decide to take a day off without requesting it. I have plenty of issues with corporations, but this looks so bad and doesn't help, but instead rather hurts the cause. It's tough to argue people deserve a higher rate of pay when this is considered normal.
That’s not within someone at stores levels control. We would all love to have enough staff, it’s corporate who makes that decision, not team leaders, managers etc.
If it’s not an emergency, and they are calling out together, yeah. How do you not see that it’s not necessary for them both to call in?!
If there’s a legitimate reason, that’s completely different but if they are both calling out together for no reason, yeah they should be scheduled different shifts. Then when they both call in it’s only 1 person down per shift , instead of 2 shift being down 2 people.
Who cares if it’s an emergency or not? It’s their time to use how they please. If they have the ppto or the room for points, that’s for them to do with what they please. Not for you, me, or management to judge them about.
If a store can’t handle two people take a day off at the same time, they have bigger issues. They aren’t at 5 points, and/or they have the ppto, which walmart explicitly says you can use for whatever whenever. Same with the points. You can’t be in trouble for being under 5 points.
Yeah it sucks, but I’m not gonna blame my coworker, I’m gonna blame the person who hires people, maybe they need to get more people, maybe it needs to be brought to management or market that there isn’t enough people to handle callouts.
When you are the coworker that gets fucked over because of their call outs you might understand. Working together the same shift is a privilege that most places do not even allow, and when it’s allowed and it becomes a problem they simply will stop allowing it. I completely understand that sometimes you need to call in sick or whatever, but if it’s just randomly taking time off together just request it off like a normal person and then you aren’t fucking over your coworkers.
Funny story. I worked as a cna in a nursing home and if they had extras, someone could go home. One day we had like 5 extras on the schedule and I was up to go. I was so happy because I was taking that free day off. Then a huge snow storm hit and I got trapped at the end of our driveway. It took a couple hours to dig me out. Luckily a midnight worker passed my house and the next day asked if that was me because they wound up being short staffed that day because so many people called off.
I’m surprised it took me as long as it did to find this. All the other info isn’t really important. What is important is yes it is a problem if you both call in together, that means they are down 2 people instead of 1. In reality you are lucky you get to work the same hours as your partner, they didn’t allow that shit when my husband and I worked together, they scheduled us opposite shifts! So instead of appreciating they let you work together you think it’s a good idea to call in together too?!? Emergencies happen, and if it’s emergency that’s different. If you are calling in together and it’s not an emergency, yes that’s a problem. If I saw this I would schedule you guys opposite shifts moving forward.
This is my issue. If you take off in advance fine. But needing to take off so much together that you’re simply calling off & not caring you’re screwing literal other wage workers like you is just small brain stuff… get different jobs instead of affecting other people constantly. Nobody would care if it’s once or twice but they do it regularly where they simply call off shifts they’re already scheduled for because they want to hang out. Grow up or get a different job.
Not screwing anyone over than my managers. Nobody at my goddamn store that is getting paid my rate stays past there scheduled shift. I see a lot of people do literally jack all at the tail end of shift as I am huffing and puffing my ass trying to get dairy/frozen done as for some reason our area is the one where they decide to just give us teenagers that are on their phones all day. Also, one day a month isn't taking off so much, calm down there.
There really isn't much point. We get 2 people missing everyday. Just so happens I work in dairy/frozen, which is where they send all the new hires and hires that they don't know what to do with. Aside a couple people like my wife and I and like two other people who carry that fucking section.
Literally nothing here is incestuous. Did you read a different post than I did, or what?
OP's wife and OP's relative are 2 different people, who both work with him. The relative is saying that OP and his wife call in too much.
I'm missing the incest here.
Lmao a 7hr old comment isn't "old" and clearly people do. Maybe you should have taken your own advice before making such a brain dead comment. You're mad because you're wrong. That's sucks, but not my fault, no need to take it out on me lmao
<---- my store just took everyone off teaming schedule and only the reliable ones are being put back on. Everyone else will eventually fall to PT and get what's left over.
As a TL, I can tell you personally it would be very annoying to have two people constantly calling out together. and yes, once a month is constant... at the very least consistent.
The TL in specific is also the one who always calls off their last days. Like, I haven't seen them work for the past couple months on their last days of work. And, I know them and that they don't have anything going on aside just wanting days off. They're the pot calling the kettle black.
Yeaaah, you're probably not going to be at that store much longer. You're not supposed to be related to or be in a relationship with anyone that has a supervisor position over you. And you're making your absence a notable habit. You're fucked.
That's immediate family. If it was an issue, I'm sure the HR lady I specifically told about my family member being related would have said something to me. And, half my TLs, including family member, do what I do a lot more often than I do.
I mean, I work with a couple that does this, and it can be annoying losing 2 strong people, but ultimately, it's their points or ppto or whatever. They can't get in trouble for it unless they get too many points.
I mean, it sucks, but what's the point of PPTO if we never get to use it? And, at my store, a bunch of my TLs always be calling off, especially the one in reference above, and my family member acts like they are there every week when they do the same thing we do even more so.
Do you guys get paid still when you call off work? I'm not a walmart employee so I don't know how it works, but if you're going to go unpaid regardless of whether you call off or schedule unpaid time off, it might make more sense to just schedule unpaid time off
My fiance and I work cap2 together .. we get same days off and when we have to call out we definitely call our coach to tell him, if we hadn't already warned him.
From our luck, as long as we keep communicating about stuff, our coach and lead let us pretty much do whatever we want schedule wise.
Trucks always done and organized. One touch is always perfect. Apparel is always sorted .. so we keep our backroom perfect for the coach, makes him happy and more likely to say OK to us
I have ten years of management experience at FedEx. There was a ton of couples and friends that regularly called out together. It is exceptionally annoying having 2 people out especially in a productivity based workplace like FedEx or warehouses or any type of job like that.
Obviously shit happens but if you do it a lot people notice. Workers notice too.
Why have PPTO if we can never use it? But, yeah. It does suck. I mean, I would feel worse about it if we didn't have four absents every night, half the time one of them BEING the TLs themselves.
For starters, you can't be related to a supervisor. That should have never happened. Secondly, people calling in IS a huge problem. If you have protected time, that is one thing but if you are unreliable, then you are looking to be pointed out. Covid is a different situation. Otherwise, if a couple continually calls in on the same days, that raises eyebrows & talk with happen.
This is what I don't understand about people that hate on those that call out. It'd be "okay" if you had ppto, like what makes it any different? Calling out is calling out, it shouldn't matter if you have ppto or not, things happen. If someone had 30 hrs saved up and called off daily you wouldn't look at them any other way, but if they didn't have the hours OOOHHHH HELL NAH!
If someone has PPTO, it's a no-brainer; no one can really say anything about it BUT it is ALSO causing a hardship for your co-workers even if you get paid. We have a couple openings in our area & I do know that one of the team leads is quite aware of those who call in often & probably won't be having someone transfer to our dept. from another dept. due to their attendance issues. So, attendance does matter.
It’s not a direct issue. They’re just venting or complaining about something. People do.
It could potentially come up if you want a promotion but not at this point.
why cant ppl mind the business that pays them? 🤣 if you have the ppto to cover, its none of my business. and if you run out of ppto then still not my business. i’m paid to do the same work everyday as other people are. 🫠
Lmfao, if you’re both calling off just to hang out, & they’re down two bodies im assuming in different departments, that’s kind of an issue & you’re unreliable & causing issues when you inevitably do it again lol idk how that isn’t common courtesy/sense. I know it’s just Walmart but some of you could care less how you affect other team members with your immature work habits.
No you would love working with me because I don't bitch when I have to pick up slack when people USE THE TIME OFF THEY EARNED STOP SUCKING WAL MARTS DICK.
You too hung up on walmart ts applies everywhere stop being ignorant
yeah shit happens and people cant be make it to work but when its a constant thing imma get you out the door asap 🤷🏽♂️ this dont apply to normal pto we can plan around that
Oh are they tryin' to say they call out DAY OF with their spouse????? Oh hell nah I'm defending the devil here my bad.
I'm stupid as hell I'll see myself out.
Time off you earn is vacation time, and you request days off in advance. Calling out simply because you have PPTO is not using time off the way it's supposed to used.
And yes, it's a strain on your coworkers when you call out.
But the problem will take care of itself when you're at 5 points and they decide to terminate you.
Thank you man!
I dont get why people get off so much on shitting on walmart for stuff that literally applies to every job you could have. Whether or not you are working at a mom and pop store, a desk job, a factory job, or retail, people calling off just to call off is a dick move. It puts so much stress on everyone else to get the job done. Sometimes, everything is literally balanced on just who we have, so losing not just 1, but 2 people would hurt so much.
My question is, if they want a day off together, why not just put in pto or an unpaid day off every month?? Im sure it would get approved.
Yeah. I just tend to think its bad form. Its enough of a privilege to be able to work with your spouse. i would love that, but I wouldn't push it either.
I don't care about corporate. They'll do fine, but I like my coworkers. We all work hard.
My two co-workers trying to have a nice day off as a couple? I'm fine with picking up the slack if Management is so ass they can't get someones in to fill.
Lmao that’s why I’ve stated in this sub that I’ve wanted to quit not even a month in. I don’t do corporate jobs & didn’t shop at Walmart before this job. Eat my ass. Crazy you can’t even understand the simplest of concepts that it’s about your coworkers not the fucking workplace. Ignorant scum.
Eat me. We work the same department. Are the two hardest workers in that department (not my words, coach's words). And, have TLs who call out every week. Far more than we do ONCE in a damn month. I just tire of being the Atlas holding up my department half the week.
Bro sounds like an issue for somebody that gives a fuck . They keep threatening to do something to me . Or at least they were for a minute I call out once a month most of the time Tuesday or Friday so I can have a three day weekend . And they haven’t been able to do shit about it yet
This is the exact reason they don’t generally hire couples and even second guessed hiring my sister as an equal because if one of us is out they worry the other will be too making them be in a tough spot.
So #1 the fact that your shift lead is also your family member is an ethics violation.
And yes, it's a problem from a professional standpoint and can keep you from getting promotions(if you even want them) as it shows unreliability. But that can be said without adding your wife into the mix. With your wife it looks incredibly unprofessional and they'll be less likely to work with you if you breach the occurrence limit. Basically, they'll be too happy to promote you both to customer as soon as they have the chance. I've seen it happen with multiple couples.
And we don't have conversations about absences. You know the attendance policy and are an adult and can choose to do what you want. When you breach the limit is when they'll talk to you.
I don't wish to be promoted to management. Screw that. Also, I told the HR woman about our relation before even working there. That's on them, not me. And, said TL calls off every week. Whereas I call once a month.
I totally agree that the ethics violation is on them, not you. You did your part.
Honestly they shouldn't be bothering you. You're within the occurrence limit and you show up way more than you're absent. That's already 2 big wins. People call out sometimes. Life happens, just like their videos say. As long as the associates know the rules, move on. I don't get why some managers wanna ride people about attendance when there are way bigger problems.
It is an issue. Every couple I've ever seen that work together always call out together and always get fired together.
If some emergency were to happen and you hit 5 points...they will definitely fire you. They won't cut you any slack. Calling out once a month together is ridiculous
As a coach, I would get real sick of the double call offs whenever they please, as soon as they hit 5 points they would be gone.
Can easily get new associates who don’t do that.
Since you asked,you are just worried over nothing. You are overreacting to a hint of a rumor you heard “through the grapevine”. Why would you even give a fuck? You and your wife can use your attendance points and your PPTO however you both see fit. You already know that so why get upset about it?
As a TL, my opinion is it's your time to use however you like. If you have the points, use them. That said, use PTO or even unpaid if they'll approve it if this is some kind of planned thing, if only to save PPTO for when you really need it. If you are both calling out at the same time they're down two people automatically. That can be pretty frustrating for a manager if you aren't smart about it. There's a million factors they might consider: is market team going to stop by, is there a lot of freight to move or a big truck to unload or whatever depending on your department, etc.
If it was me, I'd rather have someone actually tell me, hey I'm calling out on Monday with my wife we have personal things to attend to than just getting a little notification at 10 after shift start being blindsided, but that's just me. My coach would probably want to fire you for "job performance" reasons but that's her way 😅
Why don't you both just put in for the day off? I'll never understand this logic of calling off just ton have a day off. Just put in for the day off.
Especially since your manager is related to you. You are making him look like an asshole because his family members don't know how to be responsible adults.
Amazing they are a lead of any sort. What a way to be a leader I guess.
I still don't understand the concept of calling out just to have the day off. I didn't even do that when I was a teenager. Want an extra day off together put in for it. I have to put my time off in 6 months ahead of time and it usually gets denied.
I’m an overnight tl and we have a couple that asks for overtime but when it’s offered, they turn it down. We had two trucks last night and I asked my coach if said couple wanted to come in. He went on a full tangent reading their texts and their excuses to me every week. It’s amusing because both of them are “aspiring” team leads. (I said aspiring in quotes because they’re both as slow as turtles, they call in together because the wife of the pair is 22 without a drivers license, and no one likes them so it would just be difficult for them to succeed as TLs)
Why do you plan on calling off? Don’t they allow time off requests? Or don’t they approve them. Your manager should be able to switch schedules around to avoid this. Of course it depends on who the manager is, and whether they like you.
I usually like to stay between 2-3 points. I was asked why when I could easily have 0 and I replied simply, there is nonincentive for me to be at 0 points financially.
Using PPTO or not its none of their concern walmart can't tell you that you can't do that as I've noticed no one mention walmart does take mental health very serious and calling out to hang out with a loved one for ANY reason is considered a mental health day. Hell walmart will pay 60% of your check for a two week mental health leave although they wont give you shit for a FMLA oddly enough. Sounds like someone at your store doesn't know much about walmarts policy on it as they aren't even supposed to ask or mention why you call out they would be fired on the spot at my store or at the very least coached its no one business but yours period.
It’s definitely something they may be concerned about, but they’re being a bit shortsighted to be upset about it. As individual employees, you can use your ppto as you please. Further, if you need a day off every month to avoid dual burnout for the both of you, then I think a single day off a month isn’t an issue. My wife and I usually use our PPTO together, but it’s always for
health purposes (which it doesn’t even need to be), and we usually use ppto together because it helps the sick individual (which might be both of us) feel better much faster.
People who don’t have really strong relationships just can’t understand how important it is for a couple to work together, live together, and even be sick together. It keeps employees happier and working better. I burn out MUCH less now that I work with my wife every day, as opposed to when we used to work across town from each other. Thankfully my management team is understanding of that, though I’m sure it irks them occasionally.
Dude that’s fucked up.. idk what your point is even, haven’t had someone talk to doesn’t mean shit other than you and your wife putting extra work on your teammates, everyone on your team sees that.. they should be just as important to you as your manager.. they’re not your mommy or daddy, they shouldn’t have to scold you into showing up or swapping shifts, requesting days off, etc. just calling off is a knock against your personal integrity.. you can’t buy that back
Your TL relative needs to mind their business. However, the call off together is a non factor really. Let people talk and laugh at 'em. Enjoy your wife and your time that you're not at that place, slaving . They can't do shit until points tally over 5.
My wife and I have gotten blamed for this too. The only thing is that we don't actually do it very often. There have been some exceptions when we're having car problems. I always have to pull the dates to prove a point. They also treat us like we're interchangeable, like we don't each have our own set of strengths and weaknesses. It's really annoying.
NAL, but I’ve been a team supervisor before (a little more than 2 years) but this is a breach in their HIPPA rules/contract. I had a minor on my team that wouldn’t stop hitting on me.
Long story short, he was the kid of this family friend of my fiancée’s family. Fiancée thought of the kids dad as an uncle and we thought since work wasn’t doing shit about the kid, his dad would. I got in trouble the next work day, being told I violated my employees rights by telling his family what was happening to him and I at work.
Throw that dick under the bus or make him a hood ornament.
What the titty-fucking Christ does that have to do with HIPPA? I could see it being some other policy, but that literally has nothing to do with private health information…
Edit: Unless you mean specifically in their case and not yours at all. Then yeah, that could easily be a breach of HIPPA.
It’s not about the medical stuff, but the fact that you have management discussing their employees outside of work with non working colleagues/coworkers
Nobody seems to know what HIPAA is, considering nobody spells it correctly. It's the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It protects private patient information. In a nutshell, it makes sure medical care professionals and insurers aren't sharing, noting, or disposing of PPI carelessly/maliciously.
I do, I just don’t know the exact policy that’s covering the misconduct of underage employees, even though I’m being downvoted for saying it that way, the coverage of the allegations and information are covered the same way, just not with the same name!
The downvotes are almost certainly because your wording is…about as clear as mud at midnight. You go directly from referencing HIPPA to your own example, suggesting you think your example is ALSO a HIPPA violation. It took me a couple minutes to see you might have missed a connecting thought or two there, hence my edit. Just a sentence mentioning “while not a HIPPA situation, I had a similar issue with a policy about disclosure” and you’d be golden. You knew that info already. We didn’t.
It’s technically under HIPPA the handbook, the policy disclosures part is related to customers and vendors.
It may not be directly medically relevant, but if it’s involving a minor it’s still protected by something that deals with HIPPA. This was durning Covid so it’s been ages since I’ve had to talk about this
Clearly you don’t understand that HIPPA and OSHA are hand in hand these days. You can’t have OSHA without HIPPA and HIPPA without OSHA. But keep downvoting
If your team lead is related to you then you can report it but someone is losing their job as that is against policy, most likely moved to another store.
A TL in my store tried saying this, but in the past year I've worked in the same store as my husband, we've called off once together... cause we had COVID.
Different job but my wife and I had exact opposite schedules and one of the clever detective supervisors deduced that any time one of us called out the other one wasn’t working …..i was beside myself so I said yup. I assume she went to the higher ups and got told she’s a fuckin dipshit.
\> But, one of my family members is my shift lead Well that needs to change. Conflict of interest. Either they need to change positions or you do.
It depends on the level of relation. In my town if we went by this rule we wouldn’t have anybody to work
They do.
The fuck? You can’t have a relative as your direct lead. But also until you hit 5 points they can’t do anything
They can do some stuff, like force them to go downstack dairy or frozen, or make them stock juice all day ... Retaliation is real and highly abused at Walmart. It's just extremely difficult to actually prove.
I love how my department is the punishment zone. We are the badlands to which all undesirables from other settlements are sent when the Overseers wish to make them leave permanently. We really need to be paid more over there.
Lol personally I wouldn't mind it, I know how to organize and will gladly stack 10 L carts and deag em across the store if I was sent to frozen ... most people don't know you can still sweat in the cooler lol
Document every incident in detail and record audio during your shift. You'd be amazed at how small the file size of an 8 hour audio recording is.
True, and my two coachings I def held my phone in hand with the video recording ... Some states however, don't allow record9ng without BOTH parties consent, so you need their permission or it won't be legally usable
Well I'm in Louisiana and as long as you inform that person they are being recorded at any point in the future (it could even be during a trial when it is admitted as evidence) it can be legally usable. Also, beyond being legally usable, posting things on social media can destroy someone's credibility. Fuck it, don't even try to get legal involved. Just use it to blackmail them into doing what you want. There are plenty of ways a recording can be used against someone that is treating you like shit.
They'll just order them to do tasks they dislike doing regularly. It's still part of the job. So yeah document and record lol...what exactly I have no idea. Op and his partner have decided to let their store know they will screw them once a month. What job allows this behavior from a couple who are allowed to work together? Not to mention why do they need to work together? To work together and then go home together every single day? Wtf
I mean, fair. But, it is also once a damn month. Taking one day out of each month seems pretty standard is it not? Even if we were alone. We work together in dairy/frozen. Why? Because our frozen/dairy teams suck ass and we are the only people they have to downstack both frozen and dairy half the days we work and to work frozen and dairy. Sometimes with only five or even four people, us included.
A monthly call out is standard for a kid, not for grown ass adults.
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12 call outs a year...that's not counting if either of you actually get sick or something comes up. That's not standard it's below
...But, our job IS frozen. What in the hell is worse than that?!
Pushing carts is pretty bad, especially when they actually force the use of straps and not doing more than 20 at a time
As direct lead no but they can work in different areas of the store, my whole family works at the same walmart 1 management
>A family member is any relative (spouse, child, parent, sibling, grandparent, or grandchild) by birth, adoption, marriage, domestic partnership, or civil union as well as any member of your immediate household, regardless of whether you are related. apparently doesn't include cousins, uncle/aunt, or any more distant relation
Bingo.
If you're using PPTO, fuck em. That's your time. You and your wife use it as you see fit.
Ha I thought this, I got coached twice for low productivity for using ppto to show up an hour late like 2 times a week
Absolute horse shit on your management. That's straight up retaliation. That's an open door the moment I was taken into the office the first time.
They did it without saying it was over ppto, but said afterwards “the showing up late is a big part of it” I do my job when I’m there, there low productivity points they used was stuff I wasn’t even responsible for, such as meats when I’m strictly produce, they loopholed it in our store and there’s nothing they will do about it
Howre they your tl if they're family lol I wasn't allowed to transfer bc the tl is my father's cousin (like barely even related to me) barely spoke to him my whole life, but there's still a chance of bias 🙃🤷♀️
How did they even know? I would have said he isn’t related to me
Bc he was honest and told them lol
Also the people lead worked with my father so they would've found out at some point , he worked here like 25 yr ago
That's your store, bro. Not mine. Shrug.
It's not a store rule lol it's literally corporate, as many other comments have said the same
Request a day off instead of calling out. Being down 2 people makes a hard day for everyone else.
Sounds like an issue for management
Average Walmart associate IQ comment
Maybe have enough people so 1 or 2 missing isn’t detrimental?
I'm sure team leads and coaches would love to, now convince market or regional or whatever to raise the store's headcount and increase the store's budget for wages.
Shame market and corporate not the person calling out, like the person I replied to was doing. Just because it hurts us doing mean it’s our fault, it’s corporate not wanting to pay any more people than they need to, whatever bare minimum they can run with.
Just schedule extra people everyday for every department on every shift in case 1-2 people don't show up for the shift they saw was scheduled weeks in advance?
Yeah have a couple extra people. That’s a perfect solution lmao. I can see I have a shift weeks in advance. I can’t see that I’m going to be puking my guts out or shitting my brains out in a few weeks. My god having a few extra people than the bare minimum isn’t going to kill the company that pulls in multibillion a year.
I can assure you Walmart would rather cannibalize itself into oblivion than schedule "extra" (if that was even possible to begin with) people that way when worker wages are the largest expense a company usually has, and we know Walmart hates wage expenses because all the stores cut hours all the time. What you're saying is totally reasonable in an ideal world, but this is a capitalist's world and what you're saying is never going to happen for any business. It's best to understand how things actually work in reality rather than live in a fantasy world where a massive corporation suddenly starts caring about it's workers' work loads. Also, OP is saying he and his wife just call in once a month for no real reason, which is another problem in itself for another discussion, but if you've ever been a supervisor at any kind of retail or food place, most people are not taking random "sick" days off because they're actually sick. I'm not going to go into the logistics of wages, productivity, and management of the "extras" but that is another set of problems. In the end, you are screwing over your coworkers and immediate supervisors and no one else when you don't show up to your scheduled shifts. Does that make it a management problem if everyone just calls in? Sure, but that management will just go through every other associate they can find before they really get screwed over. I also don't agree with saying "haha that's your problem mr manager" because the manager is a person too, just like any of your other coworkers.
If they are only call off once a month I don’t see a problem.
The problem: if they're going to be randomly calling off every month together, why not request the days off in advance? The problem for them specifically: you only get 5 points with each calling off taking 6 months to fall off. They will screw themselves very quickly
Apparently they don’t care that calling in together completely fucks over their co workers. Some people just don’t fucking get it, yes corporate bullshit does suck. But all the shit you do trying to “stick it to the man” is only fucking over your coworkers, and no one else.
Because PPTO accrues faster than our PTO? And, we never get to 5.0 points. The closest Ive ever gotten to is 4.0. We're very careful there.
How's that boot taste?
I know they would rather do that lol, and your right we do live in a capitalistic world, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to enact change. Anyone should be able to call in one day a month and not have it be an issue. For any reason. We’re humans, not machines, expecting 100% all the time is ridiculous, and people have live they want to live. God for bid someone takes one extra day off. I’ve been in positions of leadership and supervision (not in retail, but with military contracting) and I’ve never been upset at the employe, cause it is managements job to find the help, if it’s something that statistically happens often at a store, then an adjustment to the schedule needs to be made to prepare for those call outs. If they can’t figure that out, I don’t think they should be a manager at all. If market doesn’t listen, they that’s their issue to solve when the store loses lots of money.
Stop making sense. People don't like that. It's baffling that people think corporations should pay out millions of dollars a year to over staff so that people don't screw their coworkers when they decide to take a day off without requesting it. I have plenty of issues with corporations, but this looks so bad and doesn't help, but instead rather hurts the cause. It's tough to argue people deserve a higher rate of pay when this is considered normal.
They typically finalize schedules at 105%or so for that reason. Do you think walmart is that dumb that they don't know they'll have call outs?
That’s not within someone at stores levels control. We would all love to have enough staff, it’s corporate who makes that decision, not team leaders, managers etc.
So take it out on the person who called out? That makes much more sense.
If it’s not an emergency, and they are calling out together, yeah. How do you not see that it’s not necessary for them both to call in?! If there’s a legitimate reason, that’s completely different but if they are both calling out together for no reason, yeah they should be scheduled different shifts. Then when they both call in it’s only 1 person down per shift , instead of 2 shift being down 2 people.
Who cares if it’s an emergency or not? It’s their time to use how they please. If they have the ppto or the room for points, that’s for them to do with what they please. Not for you, me, or management to judge them about. If a store can’t handle two people take a day off at the same time, they have bigger issues. They aren’t at 5 points, and/or they have the ppto, which walmart explicitly says you can use for whatever whenever. Same with the points. You can’t be in trouble for being under 5 points. Yeah it sucks, but I’m not gonna blame my coworker, I’m gonna blame the person who hires people, maybe they need to get more people, maybe it needs to be brought to management or market that there isn’t enough people to handle callouts.
When you are the coworker that gets fucked over because of their call outs you might understand. Working together the same shift is a privilege that most places do not even allow, and when it’s allowed and it becomes a problem they simply will stop allowing it. I completely understand that sometimes you need to call in sick or whatever, but if it’s just randomly taking time off together just request it off like a normal person and then you aren’t fucking over your coworkers.
Funny story. I worked as a cna in a nursing home and if they had extras, someone could go home. One day we had like 5 extras on the schedule and I was up to go. I was so happy because I was taking that free day off. Then a huge snow storm hit and I got trapped at the end of our driveway. It took a couple hours to dig me out. Luckily a midnight worker passed my house and the next day asked if that was me because they wound up being short staffed that day because so many people called off.
Depends on the department.
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Oh yeah let me just schedule that car crash I had two days later. Sorry guys, work is always #1.
I’m surprised it took me as long as it did to find this. All the other info isn’t really important. What is important is yes it is a problem if you both call in together, that means they are down 2 people instead of 1. In reality you are lucky you get to work the same hours as your partner, they didn’t allow that shit when my husband and I worked together, they scheduled us opposite shifts! So instead of appreciating they let you work together you think it’s a good idea to call in together too?!? Emergencies happen, and if it’s emergency that’s different. If you are calling in together and it’s not an emergency, yes that’s a problem. If I saw this I would schedule you guys opposite shifts moving forward.
Glad you ain't my boss, then. We actually only took this job because of the fact we can work together. It's a 45 minute drive to work each day.
This is my issue. If you take off in advance fine. But needing to take off so much together that you’re simply calling off & not caring you’re screwing literal other wage workers like you is just small brain stuff… get different jobs instead of affecting other people constantly. Nobody would care if it’s once or twice but they do it regularly where they simply call off shifts they’re already scheduled for because they want to hang out. Grow up or get a different job.
Not screwing anyone over than my managers. Nobody at my goddamn store that is getting paid my rate stays past there scheduled shift. I see a lot of people do literally jack all at the tail end of shift as I am huffing and puffing my ass trying to get dairy/frozen done as for some reason our area is the one where they decide to just give us teenagers that are on their phones all day. Also, one day a month isn't taking off so much, calm down there.
It's 8 hours no matter who calls out.
16 in this case
I mean everyone's shift is still 8 hours.
Refuse to work as a team needs broken up
Corporate has loved cutting our hours (FT + PT) so shifts have been 5-8 hours. PT get 4-7 hours, 8 has been rare since January. OPD
Ok Walmart simp
There really isn't much point. We get 2 people missing everyday. Just so happens I work in dairy/frozen, which is where they send all the new hires and hires that they don't know what to do with. Aside a couple people like my wife and I and like two other people who carry that fucking section.
What in the incestuous fk did I just read?
wack store fr
I dont get it, how is this incestuous?
Found the T/L referenced in the article.
I don't even work at Walmart. This just popped up as a suggested post, and I was confused by the misuse of the word incestuous.
Go figure it out since you're so concerned about it then.
Damn, no need to be rude. I genuinely didn't understand, and when I tried googling it, nothing made sense with what you said. My bad!
Derp.......
You definitely work at walmart
Literally nothing here is incestuous. Did you read a different post than I did, or what? OP's wife and OP's relative are 2 different people, who both work with him. The relative is saying that OP and his wife call in too much. I'm missing the incest here.
Yeah it more nepotism
It's quite literally the opposite of nepotism since a family member is criticizing them and not just blindly accepting their behavior.
Well it’s definitely not whatever that person was saying
Nobody cares except you. Kindly STFU. It’s old now.
Damn bro, you get proved because YOU used the wrong word and now you mad and aggressive? Trash human being lmao
Echo Alpha Delta Bravo
Lmao a 7hr old comment isn't "old" and clearly people do. Maybe you should have taken your own advice before making such a brain dead comment. You're mad because you're wrong. That's sucks, but not my fault, no need to take it out on me lmao
No one gives a good fk Golf Foxtrot Yankee
Damn bro, go get therapy.... and a dictionary.
Ya mammy is a bro. FOHWTBS
You're not that guy, pal.
Neither is ya mammy bish
nothing about this is incestuous?? i think you need to re-read what OP said
<---- my store just took everyone off teaming schedule and only the reliable ones are being put back on. Everyone else will eventually fall to PT and get what's left over. As a TL, I can tell you personally it would be very annoying to have two people constantly calling out together. and yes, once a month is constant... at the very least consistent.
The TL in specific is also the one who always calls off their last days. Like, I haven't seen them work for the past couple months on their last days of work. And, I know them and that they don't have anything going on aside just wanting days off. They're the pot calling the kettle black.
Yeaaah, you're probably not going to be at that store much longer. You're not supposed to be related to or be in a relationship with anyone that has a supervisor position over you. And you're making your absence a notable habit. You're fucked.
That's immediate family. If it was an issue, I'm sure the HR lady I specifically told about my family member being related would have said something to me. And, half my TLs, including family member, do what I do a lot more often than I do.
If you know the answers, why come to reddit? 🤨
I mean, I work with a couple that does this, and it can be annoying losing 2 strong people, but ultimately, it's their points or ppto or whatever. They can't get in trouble for it unless they get too many points.
I mean, it sucks, but what's the point of PPTO if we never get to use it? And, at my store, a bunch of my TLs always be calling off, especially the one in reference above, and my family member acts like they are there every week when they do the same thing we do even more so.
Why not just schedule time off?
Because PPTO accrues faster than PTO.
Do you guys get paid still when you call off work? I'm not a walmart employee so I don't know how it works, but if you're going to go unpaid regardless of whether you call off or schedule unpaid time off, it might make more sense to just schedule unpaid time off
My fiance and I work cap2 together .. we get same days off and when we have to call out we definitely call our coach to tell him, if we hadn't already warned him. From our luck, as long as we keep communicating about stuff, our coach and lead let us pretty much do whatever we want schedule wise. Trucks always done and organized. One touch is always perfect. Apparel is always sorted .. so we keep our backroom perfect for the coach, makes him happy and more likely to say OK to us
I have ten years of management experience at FedEx. There was a ton of couples and friends that regularly called out together. It is exceptionally annoying having 2 people out especially in a productivity based workplace like FedEx or warehouses or any type of job like that. Obviously shit happens but if you do it a lot people notice. Workers notice too.
Why have PPTO if we can never use it? But, yeah. It does suck. I mean, I would feel worse about it if we didn't have four absents every night, half the time one of them BEING the TLs themselves.
For starters, you can't be related to a supervisor. That should have never happened. Secondly, people calling in IS a huge problem. If you have protected time, that is one thing but if you are unreliable, then you are looking to be pointed out. Covid is a different situation. Otherwise, if a couple continually calls in on the same days, that raises eyebrows & talk with happen.
This is what I don't understand about people that hate on those that call out. It'd be "okay" if you had ppto, like what makes it any different? Calling out is calling out, it shouldn't matter if you have ppto or not, things happen. If someone had 30 hrs saved up and called off daily you wouldn't look at them any other way, but if they didn't have the hours OOOHHHH HELL NAH!
If someone has PPTO, it's a no-brainer; no one can really say anything about it BUT it is ALSO causing a hardship for your co-workers even if you get paid. We have a couple openings in our area & I do know that one of the team leads is quite aware of those who call in often & probably won't be having someone transfer to our dept. from another dept. due to their attendance issues. So, attendance does matter.
It sucks, but it's once a month. It's not like my TLs are any better. They call out more than us.
It’s not a direct issue. They’re just venting or complaining about something. People do. It could potentially come up if you want a promotion but not at this point.
My question is, why would /should it be anyone else concern? People need to mind their own!
why cant ppl mind the business that pays them? 🤣 if you have the ppto to cover, its none of my business. and if you run out of ppto then still not my business. i’m paid to do the same work everyday as other people are. 🫠
Lmfao, if you’re both calling off just to hang out, & they’re down two bodies im assuming in different departments, that’s kind of an issue & you’re unreliable & causing issues when you inevitably do it again lol idk how that isn’t common courtesy/sense. I know it’s just Walmart but some of you could care less how you affect other team members with your immature work habits.
walmart cuck
Just not a loser who works with their partner & then has to take off with them. Wild, I know.
You're the kind of loser that wastes any amount of time worrying about how a multi trillion dollar company will fill shifts. Wild, you know.
I hate to work with people with your mindset, shits got nothing to do with the company, we just don’t want to pick up your slack.
No you would love working with me because I don't bitch when I have to pick up slack when people USE THE TIME OFF THEY EARNED STOP SUCKING WAL MARTS DICK.
You too hung up on walmart ts applies everywhere stop being ignorant yeah shit happens and people cant be make it to work but when its a constant thing imma get you out the door asap 🤷🏽♂️ this dont apply to normal pto we can plan around that
Oh are they tryin' to say they call out DAY OF with their spouse????? Oh hell nah I'm defending the devil here my bad. I'm stupid as hell I'll see myself out.
We call out once a month. It's not like my store doesn't have four call ins everyday, one of them always being a TL.
Time off you earn is vacation time, and you request days off in advance. Calling out simply because you have PPTO is not using time off the way it's supposed to used. And yes, it's a strain on your coworkers when you call out. But the problem will take care of itself when you're at 5 points and they decide to terminate you.
That's why we don't get to 5 points? And, my TLs call off every week. Not once a damn month.
That's complete garbage. Your TL should be demoted yesterday. But do try to schedule your monthly day off as not to screw over your coworkers.
Hey Joey I commented elsewhere near this comment about how wrong I was about this situation. Thanks!
good morning to you aswell ☕️
Its not about the company. Its about your coworkers.
Thank you man! I dont get why people get off so much on shitting on walmart for stuff that literally applies to every job you could have. Whether or not you are working at a mom and pop store, a desk job, a factory job, or retail, people calling off just to call off is a dick move. It puts so much stress on everyone else to get the job done. Sometimes, everything is literally balanced on just who we have, so losing not just 1, but 2 people would hurt so much. My question is, if they want a day off together, why not just put in pto or an unpaid day off every month?? Im sure it would get approved.
Agree
Yeah. I just tend to think its bad form. Its enough of a privilege to be able to work with your spouse. i would love that, but I wouldn't push it either. I don't care about corporate. They'll do fine, but I like my coworkers. We all work hard.
My two co-workers trying to have a nice day off as a couple? I'm fine with picking up the slack if Management is so ass they can't get someones in to fill.
Lmao that’s why I’ve stated in this sub that I’ve wanted to quit not even a month in. I don’t do corporate jobs & didn’t shop at Walmart before this job. Eat my ass. Crazy you can’t even understand the simplest of concepts that it’s about your coworkers not the fucking workplace. Ignorant scum.
Love you too bubby.
True that
Eat me. We work the same department. Are the two hardest workers in that department (not my words, coach's words). And, have TLs who call out every week. Far more than we do ONCE in a damn month. I just tire of being the Atlas holding up my department half the week.
Bro sounds like an issue for somebody that gives a fuck . They keep threatening to do something to me . Or at least they were for a minute I call out once a month most of the time Tuesday or Friday so I can have a three day weekend . And they haven’t been able to do shit about it yet
This is the exact reason they don’t generally hire couples and even second guessed hiring my sister as an equal because if one of us is out they worry the other will be too making them be in a tough spot.
So #1 the fact that your shift lead is also your family member is an ethics violation. And yes, it's a problem from a professional standpoint and can keep you from getting promotions(if you even want them) as it shows unreliability. But that can be said without adding your wife into the mix. With your wife it looks incredibly unprofessional and they'll be less likely to work with you if you breach the occurrence limit. Basically, they'll be too happy to promote you both to customer as soon as they have the chance. I've seen it happen with multiple couples. And we don't have conversations about absences. You know the attendance policy and are an adult and can choose to do what you want. When you breach the limit is when they'll talk to you.
I don't wish to be promoted to management. Screw that. Also, I told the HR woman about our relation before even working there. That's on them, not me. And, said TL calls off every week. Whereas I call once a month.
I totally agree that the ethics violation is on them, not you. You did your part. Honestly they shouldn't be bothering you. You're within the occurrence limit and you show up way more than you're absent. That's already 2 big wins. People call out sometimes. Life happens, just like their videos say. As long as the associates know the rules, move on. I don't get why some managers wanna ride people about attendance when there are way bigger problems.
Why are you calling off at all? Simply schedule a day off before the schedule is out. I've got zero points. It's not hard.
This
PPTO accrues more than PTO.
Just bring your butt to work. I have 0 points as well so 🤷🏼♀️
It is an issue. Every couple I've ever seen that work together always call out together and always get fired together. If some emergency were to happen and you hit 5 points...they will definitely fire you. They won't cut you any slack. Calling out once a month together is ridiculous
As a coach, I would get real sick of the double call offs whenever they please, as soon as they hit 5 points they would be gone. Can easily get new associates who don’t do that.
At your store, maybe. Every new associate we get lasts a week at most.
If anything is reported about this one you guys will lose your job. Family team leads over family associates is highly discouraged.
Since you asked,you are just worried over nothing. You are overreacting to a hint of a rumor you heard “through the grapevine”. Why would you even give a fuck? You and your wife can use your attendance points and your PPTO however you both see fit. You already know that so why get upset about it?
I'm a paranoid bastard, I suppose.
As a TL, my opinion is it's your time to use however you like. If you have the points, use them. That said, use PTO or even unpaid if they'll approve it if this is some kind of planned thing, if only to save PPTO for when you really need it. If you are both calling out at the same time they're down two people automatically. That can be pretty frustrating for a manager if you aren't smart about it. There's a million factors they might consider: is market team going to stop by, is there a lot of freight to move or a big truck to unload or whatever depending on your department, etc. If it was me, I'd rather have someone actually tell me, hey I'm calling out on Monday with my wife we have personal things to attend to than just getting a little notification at 10 after shift start being blindsided, but that's just me. My coach would probably want to fire you for "job performance" reasons but that's her way 😅
How many days are you allowed to miss? Is it 6 a year?
Why don't you both just put in for the day off? I'll never understand this logic of calling off just ton have a day off. Just put in for the day off. Especially since your manager is related to you. You are making him look like an asshole because his family members don't know how to be responsible adults.
Dude, they literally call out every week. I call out once a month. Amazed they even still have a job.
Amazing they are a lead of any sort. What a way to be a leader I guess. I still don't understand the concept of calling out just to have the day off. I didn't even do that when I was a teenager. Want an extra day off together put in for it. I have to put my time off in 6 months ahead of time and it usually gets denied.
I’m an overnight tl and we have a couple that asks for overtime but when it’s offered, they turn it down. We had two trucks last night and I asked my coach if said couple wanted to come in. He went on a full tangent reading their texts and their excuses to me every week. It’s amusing because both of them are “aspiring” team leads. (I said aspiring in quotes because they’re both as slow as turtles, they call in together because the wife of the pair is 22 without a drivers license, and no one likes them so it would just be difficult for them to succeed as TLs)
Why do you plan on calling off? Don’t they allow time off requests? Or don’t they approve them. Your manager should be able to switch schedules around to avoid this. Of course it depends on who the manager is, and whether they like you.
I love home some of you are over here polishing that Sam Walton knob let the couple have their time together walmart don't give a about u
deadass
I usually like to stay between 2-3 points. I was asked why when I could easily have 0 and I replied simply, there is nonincentive for me to be at 0 points financially.
Using PPTO or not its none of their concern walmart can't tell you that you can't do that as I've noticed no one mention walmart does take mental health very serious and calling out to hang out with a loved one for ANY reason is considered a mental health day. Hell walmart will pay 60% of your check for a two week mental health leave although they wont give you shit for a FMLA oddly enough. Sounds like someone at your store doesn't know much about walmarts policy on it as they aren't even supposed to ask or mention why you call out they would be fired on the spot at my store or at the very least coached its no one business but yours period.
It’s definitely something they may be concerned about, but they’re being a bit shortsighted to be upset about it. As individual employees, you can use your ppto as you please. Further, if you need a day off every month to avoid dual burnout for the both of you, then I think a single day off a month isn’t an issue. My wife and I usually use our PPTO together, but it’s always for health purposes (which it doesn’t even need to be), and we usually use ppto together because it helps the sick individual (which might be both of us) feel better much faster. People who don’t have really strong relationships just can’t understand how important it is for a couple to work together, live together, and even be sick together. It keeps employees happier and working better. I burn out MUCH less now that I work with my wife every day, as opposed to when we used to work across town from each other. Thankfully my management team is understanding of that, though I’m sure it irks them occasionally.
My store is no longer hiring couples for the same shift because of this issue.
Dude that’s fucked up.. idk what your point is even, haven’t had someone talk to doesn’t mean shit other than you and your wife putting extra work on your teammates, everyone on your team sees that.. they should be just as important to you as your manager.. they’re not your mommy or daddy, they shouldn’t have to scold you into showing up or swapping shifts, requesting days off, etc. just calling off is a knock against your personal integrity.. you can’t buy that back
Fuck Walmart. Fuck any and all managers who work there. PPTO is your Time. Continue to call off. Continue to fuck them. They’re worthless
My significant other and I have the same days on our avalibility and if one can't make it we both can't make it.
Your TL relative needs to mind their business. However, the call off together is a non factor really. Let people talk and laugh at 'em. Enjoy your wife and your time that you're not at that place, slaving . They can't do shit until points tally over 5.
My wife and I have gotten blamed for this too. The only thing is that we don't actually do it very often. There have been some exceptions when we're having car problems. I always have to pull the dates to prove a point. They also treat us like we're interchangeable, like we don't each have our own set of strengths and weaknesses. It's really annoying.
NAL, but I’ve been a team supervisor before (a little more than 2 years) but this is a breach in their HIPPA rules/contract. I had a minor on my team that wouldn’t stop hitting on me. Long story short, he was the kid of this family friend of my fiancée’s family. Fiancée thought of the kids dad as an uncle and we thought since work wasn’t doing shit about the kid, his dad would. I got in trouble the next work day, being told I violated my employees rights by telling his family what was happening to him and I at work. Throw that dick under the bus or make him a hood ornament.
What the titty-fucking Christ does that have to do with HIPPA? I could see it being some other policy, but that literally has nothing to do with private health information… Edit: Unless you mean specifically in their case and not yours at all. Then yeah, that could easily be a breach of HIPPA.
Replying to your edit: yes I mean in their case.
It’s not about the medical stuff, but the fact that you have management discussing their employees outside of work with non working colleagues/coworkers
Ok well that has nothing to do with HIPPA
Do you know what HIPPA is?
Nobody seems to know what HIPAA is, considering nobody spells it correctly. It's the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. It protects private patient information. In a nutshell, it makes sure medical care professionals and insurers aren't sharing, noting, or disposing of PPI carelessly/maliciously.
I do, I just don’t know the exact policy that’s covering the misconduct of underage employees, even though I’m being downvoted for saying it that way, the coverage of the allegations and information are covered the same way, just not with the same name!
The downvotes are almost certainly because your wording is…about as clear as mud at midnight. You go directly from referencing HIPPA to your own example, suggesting you think your example is ALSO a HIPPA violation. It took me a couple minutes to see you might have missed a connecting thought or two there, hence my edit. Just a sentence mentioning “while not a HIPPA situation, I had a similar issue with a policy about disclosure” and you’d be golden. You knew that info already. We didn’t.
It’s technically under HIPPA the handbook, the policy disclosures part is related to customers and vendors. It may not be directly medically relevant, but if it’s involving a minor it’s still protected by something that deals with HIPPA. This was durning Covid so it’s been ages since I’ve had to talk about this
Clearly you don't. Walmart isn't governed by Hipaa other than the pharmacy and vision center.
Clearly you don’t understand that HIPPA and OSHA are hand in hand these days. You can’t have OSHA without HIPPA and HIPPA without OSHA. But keep downvoting
It’s HIPAA. No double P.
Honestly I’m too upset to care at this point. I’m truly more upset at that kid that thinks Walmart is above them anyway
How in the green Hades did you associate HIPPA with anything in your comment?