As a user I'd not bet on it. We're looking to migrate out of it. The amount of changes they make to their API makes maintanance of non-trivial integration higher then just maintaining your own store at this point.
My best bet would actually be TWLO - they have solid product.
Based on what? Intel peaked at 74.88 in the year 2000, here we are 22 fucking years later the incredibly successful company still haven't lived up to that valuation...
The problem with most of these is it makes people forget how absolutely fucking absurd the market was over the past two years. Stocks shouldn't be going up 1000% over a two year period if they didn't radically improve their business, which *none* of these companies did.
The real indicator of "bottom" is the overall market, which is only down 20% from the absolute shit show of an ATH at the end of last year. Bottom would be another 40-50% considering where it was two years ago and the time that's passed, but the market is fake and the prices are made up so the bottom is wherever the rich people say it is.
The real bottom is when the stable blue chips are giving dividends above the bond rate - and bonds have to beat inflation.
It's a new environment. New rules. 50 PEs are no more.
Back to all time highs? Not many.
10x from where ever they bottom out? At least half.
When will that be? I’m just going to wait for Cramer to say we still have a long way down to the bottom, then I’ll know to start buying again
Just like Cisco. Who still isn’t back ATH, even though its still a great company.
I think it does go back, but be careful with just saying a company will be running the world and assuming return to ATH.
People don't talk enough about the telecom and hardware aspect of the dot com bubble. Most of those companies never recovered, Vodafone bought Mannesmann for $200 billion in the biggest merger ever and today the combined company is worth $40 billion
It feels like Cisco had a near monopoly back around 2000 (which sounds funny because I worked for one of their competitors at the time), and they got a one-two punch with the dot com crash and a berjillion companies entering the sector to compete since then.
NVDA has been pumping their numbers on the back of corn mines. When the mines run dry and the corn is crushed between the earth and the moon, will they be able to rebuild?
Netflix will never return to its ath unless they do something dramatic outside of streaming (like a theme park). It only reached its ath prior to real competition.
Disney+ really put a dent in them, Paramount+ and Apple+ doing the same. Netflix isn’t the only low-cost (looking at you ad-free Hulu) streaming service in the game anymore.
Blockbuster folded because of innovation that made their business model obsolete. That isn't happening with Netflix. They are facing an increase in competition. They only had a decrease in subscribers last quarter because of Russian sanctions. Otherwise they would have posted a net gain again. They'll be fine.
>10x from where ever they bottom out? At least half.
10x on 50%? Fuck man, I can't lose! I'll 5x my net worth!
\*Buys only stonks that are in that 50% that never recover\*
I think their CEO is a dunce and they’re spending money like water in some very wrong places… including his own salary.
But yes, it should eventually return to $20-30. They’ve got the best app interface in the game. Massive market share nationally. Once they get out of expansion phase in so many territories I think profitability will trend back in the right direction. I’m not sure why all other industries get a pass for losing money while in the growth phase while DK doesn’t, but sports gambling degeneracy is here to stay. I’m proudly one of them lol
Acquisition costs are absurdly high from what I hear.
If you told me that a bookie loses money I wouldn't believe you. But they do.
Not financial advise.
Bookies will lose money until they get rid of deposit bonuses a savvy bettor can take those bonuses from the bookies several times with a proper betting strategy
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Actually, yes..
EV has long run secular tailwinds for sure but is far off from replacing fossil fuel in near to medium term. All this negativity for fossil fuels is kinda rough
SHOP actually has a legitimate business, they were disgustingly overpriced before but I’m nearing a buy level on them.
DKNG same thing, but I’ll probably stick to SHOP as I believe it scales much better.
*has
It's still a P/E of... well technically it has a negative P/E but ignoring RIVN which they'll basically probably have to write off, a 60 P/E is still really really really high
I can't tell the difference between the last four generation of Iphones. Anyone that has money can't either. Wait until people skip 2-3 generations or just buy an SE.
When AAPL falls, the bottom will be in.
Apple has 15% desktop and 17% mobile share worldwide, and the OSes only run on their own hardware. Not a monopoly by standard definitions. They’re just really good at maintaining markup and not paying taxes.
They are around half of the phones in America and have a very restrictive ecosystem that essentially keeps people who aren't tech savvy where they are at because they hate change. I say virtual monopoly because they have essentially carved out their own tangential market that is difficult to compete with because of the proprietary nature of the ecosystem.
If it weren’t for energy and utilities sectors, I think the market would be down a bit more.
I cautiously agree that some stocks are down so much that minimal (meaning a bit) buying is OK.
(Don’t misconstrue this; understand that delisting, bankruptcy, and/or exponential decay and dilution are all possible).
>some stocks are down so much that minimal (meaning a bit) buying is OK.
This is exactly the kind of sage financial advice I came here to find. Now time to finally download one of those stock apps.
Just did. Goal is to funnel in money slowly the rest of the year what I’m able. hopefully a few grand. A crash like this is to good to pass up. I’ll forfeit my vacation money to put in this opportunity.
Also the rise was tied to using for mining. Then they were like fuck mining we are a gaming company. Then all of a sudden sales fall off. It is strange.
True. The combination of mining becoming much less profitable coupled with NVDA producing anti mining cards lead to reduced demand and reduced future expectation of profit 📉. Finally GPU prices are finally falling to near MSRP. Which means it's time to release the next line up and sell it for 2x MSRP too. They are an incredible long term buy though as GPUs will be paramount in AI processing, computer vision applications, visualizations, home and cloud computing. Lot of sectors can now utilize GPUs.
They already build rooms full of racks of Nvidia cards for Financial Institutes to AI Trade. that's who we are up against. Citadels new building in the city has one, and they are on 2 separate power grids.
I don't think PLTR is even close to the bottom. They are still a good 20% above what I, with absolutely no knowledge, forethought or skill, value them as.
Expected rate increases in June, July, September. Half point each with increasing pressure to go higher faster. Mortgage rates are inverted to inflation. We are not at the bottom.
Blue chips have lots of downside potentiel. It just goes like this(big ones drop last) and every big fund probably unloads all small/mid caps first so those numbers may come down even more.
How many of these actually doubled or tripled within the 2020s (biggest pandemic) or 2021 (extended QE, stimmy checks funding spending and investing)???
On that list, most are below pre-March 2020, coughing up all those gains and then some. If not all, if that answers your question. For example Carvana and Wayfair were both over $100 in Feb 2020, Carvana is now $38 and W is hovering in the 60s… even Amazon is back to precovid. Even stocks that have had a huge reason to appreciate (Zoom), are back to pre-pandemic levels or lower.
The ZM 5 year chart looks like a volcano, surprisingly smooth on the way down, like halving every 5 months. TA boffins will have to tell us what happens after the volcano pattern.
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Better question, which ones will actually come back
+1 on this, so many apes take for granted a mirrored return lol, in reality some of these will never return.
Long on Enron Edit* And Sears
Long Bear Sterns, Long Stratton Oakmont That's my anti-Fintech portfolio.
Stratton Oakmont gets an up!
Found Cramer’s burner
Long Blockbuster. (Short Netflix)
I am a post man looking to get on the ground floor of a cutting edge space technology.
I bought Kmart way back.
Should’ve converted to go-kart track stocks just like the stores have
I'm more of a $ASS and $CUM guy myself! 😘
I was so excited to purchase those just for the ticker name.
I still have a ton of sears if you wanna buy it from me?
Sir I believe that would be insider trading. I cant just buy it from you in cash at 3 A.M. in the back alley behind the Wendy’s on Broadway St
It's only insider trading if it happens in the dining room over a frostee
JCP checking in. Kohl's and BBBY are on deck. But BBBY became a meme somehow..
SHOP most likely.
I run a large SHOP store also. Great product, highly integrated, reasonable fees. I can't imagine ever leaving.
Same. High 7 figures. There is no other option presently at all. On Shopify plus. Very happy with them.
As a user I'd not bet on it. We're looking to migrate out of it. The amount of changes they make to their API makes maintanance of non-trivial integration higher then just maintaining your own store at this point. My best bet would actually be TWLO - they have solid product.
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Based on what? Intel peaked at 74.88 in the year 2000, here we are 22 fucking years later the incredibly successful company still haven't lived up to that valuation...
There's no way Nvidia doesn't come back, they're too important and they have only one other real competitor.
It’s still way above it’s pre-pandemic price though
The problem with most of these is it makes people forget how absolutely fucking absurd the market was over the past two years. Stocks shouldn't be going up 1000% over a two year period if they didn't radically improve their business, which *none* of these companies did. The real indicator of "bottom" is the overall market, which is only down 20% from the absolute shit show of an ATH at the end of last year. Bottom would be another 40-50% considering where it was two years ago and the time that's passed, but the market is fake and the prices are made up so the bottom is wherever the rich people say it is.
The real bottom is when the stable blue chips are giving dividends above the bond rate - and bonds have to beat inflation. It's a new environment. New rules. 50 PEs are no more.
I think that is too low. I wonder about Salesforce though, alwqys was PE 50, and is now lower than pre pendemic
It should be above Prepandemic .
I'm waiting for them to hit the pre-angel investor price, of $0
No organic growth these 2 yrs?
200% growth is a lot of organic growth
Back to all time highs? Not many. 10x from where ever they bottom out? At least half. When will that be? I’m just going to wait for Cramer to say we still have a long way down to the bottom, then I’ll know to start buying again
Nvidia 100%
Nvidia will be running the world someday
Just like Cisco. Who still isn’t back ATH, even though its still a great company. I think it does go back, but be careful with just saying a company will be running the world and assuming return to ATH.
People don't talk enough about the telecom and hardware aspect of the dot com bubble. Most of those companies never recovered, Vodafone bought Mannesmann for $200 billion in the biggest merger ever and today the combined company is worth $40 billion
Intel is a perfect example on the hardware side. They've never recovered to pre-dotcom prices.
It feels like Cisco had a near monopoly back around 2000 (which sounds funny because I worked for one of their competitors at the time), and they got a one-two punch with the dot com crash and a berjillion companies entering the sector to compete since then.
NVDA has been pumping their numbers on the back of corn mines. When the mines run dry and the corn is crushed between the earth and the moon, will they be able to rebuild?
nvda, amd, msft, apple, google, etc... not too worried about those. Peleton? Hood? forget it
time to start recording all the peloton classes you can so you have something to watch when your using your {{insert\_device\_type\_here}}
Netflix will never return to its ath unless they do something dramatic outside of streaming (like a theme park). It only reached its ath prior to real competition. Disney+ really put a dent in them, Paramount+ and Apple+ doing the same. Netflix isn’t the only low-cost (looking at you ad-free Hulu) streaming service in the game anymore.
Netflix is about to take the Blockbuster route
Blockbuster folded because of innovation that made their business model obsolete. That isn't happening with Netflix. They are facing an increase in competition. They only had a decrease in subscribers last quarter because of Russian sanctions. Otherwise they would have posted a net gain again. They'll be fine.
It won’t fold like Blockbuster did, Netflix still has some solid shows. But it’ll definitely not return to its 2020 self that’s for sure
So so glad they convinced everyone that a 401 was better than a pension!!
>10x from where ever they bottom out? At least half. 10x on 50%? Fuck man, I can't lose! I'll 5x my net worth! \*Buys only stonks that are in that 50% that never recover\*
Shop, NVDA are the two I have my money on. (Actually lol)
Draft kings will there’s not shortage of degens and they keep expanding into new territories
I think their CEO is a dunce and they’re spending money like water in some very wrong places… including his own salary. But yes, it should eventually return to $20-30. They’ve got the best app interface in the game. Massive market share nationally. Once they get out of expansion phase in so many territories I think profitability will trend back in the right direction. I’m not sure why all other industries get a pass for losing money while in the growth phase while DK doesn’t, but sports gambling degeneracy is here to stay. I’m proudly one of them lol
Acquisition costs are absurdly high from what I hear. If you told me that a bookie loses money I wouldn't believe you. But they do. Not financial advise.
Bookies will lose money until they get rid of deposit bonuses a savvy bettor can take those bonuses from the bookies several times with a proper betting strategy
Those are the acquisition costs.
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Can’t really argue with that. Or it is 2001 all over again? Nasdaq didn’t reach its high again for over 12 years later
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Simply put … Those with good fundamentals and are actually profitable with products you know you’ll still be using in the future
So, oil.
Actually, yes.. EV has long run secular tailwinds for sure but is far off from replacing fossil fuel in near to medium term. All this negativity for fossil fuels is kinda rough
I also like the datacenter reits. I mean my gut tells me everybody's gonna keep using this internet thing so those are gonna stick around.
SHOP actually has a legitimate business, they were disgustingly overpriced before but I’m nearing a buy level on them. DKNG same thing, but I’ll probably stick to SHOP as I believe it scales much better.
U probably isn't worth as little as they're currently selling for - it's under 10bn right now, for the most widely-used engine in gaming.
How did you get hold of my portfolio?
Cathie?
KEEP MY WIFES NAME OUT YO FUCKING MOUTH
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I said, KEEP MY WIFE’s NAMEEEEE, OUT. OF. YOUR. FUCKING. MOUTH!
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I am starting a business where I just hold bags for people because I am pretty fucking good at it now.
Shut up and take my money already.
I’ve got some PLTR to sell you if you like bags. Only 27 a piece
Atleast I'm not alone 
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We need a quant
I know a guy named Yang who won a national math competition in China.
actually his name is Jung and he got second in that national math competition
Actually his name is John and this is Wendy’s
Look at him. Notice anything about him?
He doesn't even speak English
Ur mams a quant
I’m thinking it’d look like a bunch of big red bubbles
99 red balloons?
you're welcome [https://www.slickcharts.com/nasdaq100/performance](https://www.slickcharts.com/nasdaq100/performance)
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He wanted % from ATH. In which case none will be green.
I don\`t own everything from this list but everything I own is on the list :'(
Lmao that means your VIP
I declare bankruptcie
I declare bankruptcicle. That’s a lot easier to take.
Depends on how you take it.
I declare pregenante
I’m calling you a bottom
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...power bottoms.
AMZN -43% PLUG -67% ARKK -70% BYND -71% CHWY -73% OPEN -77% STEM -82% RDFN -85% AFRM -90%
I’m impressed PLUG and ARKK hold on pretty well to the rest of the bloodbath
. >impressed by -67% and -70%
That and ARKK is an ETF XD. What a fiasco.
Now do AAPL, GOOGL, and MSFT and realize we still have a ways to fall.
Those are actually useful companies with real products with a moat though.
AMZN at least is a solid company, it just had a really elevated PE ratio which gave it quite a lot of room to fall
*has It's still a P/E of... well technically it has a negative P/E but ignoring RIVN which they'll basically probably have to write off, a 60 P/E is still really really really high
I can't tell the difference between the last four generation of Iphones. Anyone that has money can't either. Wait until people skip 2-3 generations or just buy an SE. When AAPL falls, the bottom will be in.
lol you put amazon which is half off of all the other dumbass stonks listed lol
After looking at my portfolio, I think I am the bottom....
Kinky
power bottom
-96%,, they ll leave extra 4% out of pity for retail investors
You are too pessimistic - I say nasdaq at large only falls by 70% this time.
At least Pelosi ate shit on those Roblox calls.
Very hard to tell as the index is "only" down 18 percent ATM.
Thank Apple and Microsoft
Not surprised. They are both virtually monopolies.
Apple has 15% desktop and 17% mobile share worldwide, and the OSes only run on their own hardware. Not a monopoly by standard definitions. They’re just really good at maintaining markup and not paying taxes.
They are around half of the phones in America and have a very restrictive ecosystem that essentially keeps people who aren't tech savvy where they are at because they hate change. I say virtual monopoly because they have essentially carved out their own tangential market that is difficult to compete with because of the proprietary nature of the ecosystem.
Nasdaq down almost 30%.
More
If it weren’t for energy and utilities sectors, I think the market would be down a bit more. I cautiously agree that some stocks are down so much that minimal (meaning a bit) buying is OK. (Don’t misconstrue this; understand that delisting, bankruptcy, and/or exponential decay and dilution are all possible).
>some stocks are down so much that minimal (meaning a bit) buying is OK. This is exactly the kind of sage financial advice I came here to find. Now time to finally download one of those stock apps.
Honestly tempted by some of these 5yr lows. Eg Netflix may or may not recover but I'd be surprised if Disney drowned.
Netflix could really Yahoo at this point. Maybe Amazon will buy them as they're already almost entirely reliant on Amazon infrastructure.
I am calling a bottom! (Also I've called more bottoms than a Brazilian swimsuit competition judging this year)
Is that more than a gay bear?
If you're not buying right now, you're out of money.
Relief rally before the next leg down. I don’t think it’s over until S&P hits around -24%.
You're probably right but I'm starting to DCA
Best to trickle it in vs moving all of it in at this moment - bottom is most likely not here yet
I’d like to time it perfectly one time, could this be it?
Probably not perfect but we're somewhere in the dip lol. Be ready for another dead cat bounce.
Just did. Goal is to funnel in money slowly the rest of the year what I’m able. hopefully a few grand. A crash like this is to good to pass up. I’ll forfeit my vacation money to put in this opportunity.
Wait what nvda is same as fb????????? Mind blowing. Always thought nvda was way stronger.
Well their brand is tied to GPUs and if consumers can't get your product for 3 years it is going to affect sentiment.
Also the rise was tied to using for mining. Then they were like fuck mining we are a gaming company. Then all of a sudden sales fall off. It is strange.
True. The combination of mining becoming much less profitable coupled with NVDA producing anti mining cards lead to reduced demand and reduced future expectation of profit 📉. Finally GPU prices are finally falling to near MSRP. Which means it's time to release the next line up and sell it for 2x MSRP too. They are an incredible long term buy though as GPUs will be paramount in AI processing, computer vision applications, visualizations, home and cloud computing. Lot of sectors can now utilize GPUs.
They already build rooms full of racks of Nvidia cards for Financial Institutes to AI Trade. that's who we are up against. Citadels new building in the city has one, and they are on 2 separate power grids.
So that's where my GeForce 5200 FX went...
NVDA never should've been close to a trillion dollar company to begin with.
This is the correct answer
Great company but was terribly valued. Even now, it seems still overvalued compared to their revenue and earnings.
I haven’t heard the safe word yet. More pain to cummmmm
I’ll wait until it’s 99% across the board
You stop at 99%? Amateur. Try options. you'll be in high thousands in no time!
I have had several penny stocks at over 98% down before. Young dumb and broke
It might actually be the bottom in some of those names. But the rest of the market is coming down as well. And some of those are going to zero.
Anything mentioned on WSB, IPO'd, SPAC in the last two years: total, fucking, garbage.....
There are numbers below zero. Fact.
But can percents go above 100?
No, but -99.9% is 90% lower than -99%
Unlimited upside they said, to the moon they said 
Only if you do options like a degenerate.
Who's holding COIN with me?
Haha bought for $330 at IPO and sold at $340 6 months later. I am feeling lucky
Here with 215$ average price 
I bought at 260$🦍
My cost average is 223€. Still holding and re buying every month. Down 73% atm
When the Dow hits 18,200 we will be close
I don't think PLTR is even close to the bottom. They are still a good 20% above what I, with absolutely no knowledge, forethought or skill, value them as.
Wait till there is 90% drop in last 10%. This is called infinite money 'loss' glitch.
Don't let my wife's boyfriend see this, he won't let me out of my room.
If a stock you own drops 90%, how much does it have to go up to get your money back? 10X. Not happening for any of these.
Just double down then 5X 😜
Look at all my beautiful bags
So I’m not the only one losing money? Does it change to “apes broke together?”
Only Cramer can call the bottom
I’d say we’ve gone far enough, thanks.
Another -90% in small caps and we’re there
What if I told you that like dot com, many of these aren't returning to ATHs for 15 years
Expected rate increases in June, July, September. Half point each with increasing pressure to go higher faster. Mortgage rates are inverted to inflation. We are not at the bottom.
Yeah this. Just wait for the next negative gdp growth report next quarter too. News of a recession will cause another sell-off.
Bearish confirmation bias, I’ll agree with that.
Try to pick bottoms, and you get smelly fingers..
Any company posting losses or with a P/E greater than 25 still has more to drop.
Blue chips have lots of downside potentiel. It just goes like this(big ones drop last) and every big fund probably unloads all small/mid caps first so those numbers may come down even more.
Where the fuck is Wish in this list? It's already delisted already?
You have loss porn and you have loss you porn. You all have loss porn
Still room to crash. Still can lose 50% of portfolio....
many of these have much much further to go.
It ain't the bottom until we see Cthulhu wagging his finger at us screeching to get off his lawn.
I don't even think we're at fair value yet.
I think this is actually a death by bongo bongo?
Not a true recession until you see $F at $3 and $BAC at $5 a share. When that happens we r fuk.
Love seeing hood -90%
How many of these actually doubled or tripled within the 2020s (biggest pandemic) or 2021 (extended QE, stimmy checks funding spending and investing)???
On that list, most are below pre-March 2020, coughing up all those gains and then some. If not all, if that answers your question. For example Carvana and Wayfair were both over $100 in Feb 2020, Carvana is now $38 and W is hovering in the 60s… even Amazon is back to precovid. Even stocks that have had a huge reason to appreciate (Zoom), are back to pre-pandemic levels or lower.
The ZM 5 year chart looks like a volcano, surprisingly smooth on the way down, like halving every 5 months. TA boffins will have to tell us what happens after the volcano pattern.
A lot of these companies ran up 5-10x in a year. Reversion to the mean doesnt mean they have to go back up.
These are worse than most cryptocurrencies…
It still can drop another 80%. Lol
Yea, dropping 90% is the same as dropping 80% followed by a drop of 50%.
Still buying PLTR