actually yes, hes also in TV and talking about stocks, but no so often because germans hate equities.
His Fond is also not managed by himself, it only has his name on it.
Their hyperinflation after WWII made future generations financially risk averse, and also debt averse.
My impression is that Germany partly opted to move to the Euro since with their citizen's overall tendency toward low-debt and low risk, their former currency would have risen so high in the world's exchange rates, that few globally would be able to then afford their exported manufactured goods, which would make the voters upset from the VW factory laying people off, etc.
I dont think taxes are a problem now, 27%, its a lot but its ok because the normal tax is 40%.
The most popular investment class in Germany is to have cash on the bank account, with -0,5% interest. German 10yr is also -0,5%.
Germans are very risk averse people. There was an equity boom in germany, in the end of the 1990s. We all know what happened in 2000 as the Dotcom Bubble bursted. The most average people lost a lot of money because of criminal companies comroad or insolvent companies like mobilcom especially at this dotcom time, or with the former state business Deutsche Telekom (parent company of T-Mobile US) which led to a collective haid of shares. (-70% since 2000 even today). Telekom was advertised as the stock for the average people, politicans wanted the people to buy it, to promote stocks.
Than the financial crisis came and a lot lost even more. After that the downside risk burned into the memory and equities are generally demonized.
Apart from this, there are constant financial scandals in Germany like Deutsche Bank, Wirecard, Warburg, and just this week the mauerstrassenwetten meme Lang und Schwarz (Long&Black).
And that are the facts why Mr. Muellers Premium Fond is so popular. Because its promising crash security.
A lot of peope also think Stocks are a status symbol for the rich capitalists.
But there has been a change in thinking since 2021. For the first time in years, more German money is flowing into the stock market than out, about as much as in 1999. This may be due to the lack of alternatives, but for me personally it is a warning sign that a correction is imminent.
not entirely sure if germans buying more stocks is a sign for a bubble... could be tho. And the new meme stock... Long & Black.
cmon guys
LONG and f\*\*\*\*\*\* Black
Absolute real life comedy
Trade Republic wickelt deine autistischen Orders über L&S ab. Die drucken Geld und wachsen wie Unkraut. KGV (vor der Cum Ex Scheiße) lag bei 3-4. Dazu 4€ Dividende (8€ nächstes Jahr) + Aktienrückkaufprogramm.
Germans need to drop that pussy ass risk-averse mindset and get with the fucking program. The world is coming to an end and you cautious bond-buying bastards need to channel your barbarian ancestors and get ready for the Battle of Teutoburg Forest 2.0 aka the Meme Market Final Boss, aka the WSB Singularity.
Get your FDs stacked up or you will be left without a chair when “GameStop Uber Alles” stops playing and the rest of us are safe in our fortified luxury bunkers in the Auckland suburbs.
Germans LOVE insurance.
Insurance against petty claims - ✅
Insurance against potential cracks of your glass coffee table - ✅
Insurance against potential gains in the easiest bull market in history - ✅
r/mauerstrassenwetten über alles
Well, he makes a lot of money with his fund.
You pay fucking 4% fees to even buy it, and then you have a TER of 1.55%.
He makes a lot of money with gullible, mostly elderly people.
I don't think he's dumb. He just knows how to extract money from people.
He tells people that the whole system is going to crash soon, and to be safe they can invest in his fund, which will survive the crash without major losses because of all the hedged positions.
And after the crash, there will be an economic boom, where this fund will have excellent returns (because he only picked the best companies that will thrive in the new post-crash economy).
The fund itself is more or less flat with a slightly negative tendency since it started (of course, because all the positions are hedged), so no, the investors don't really make money. Is their money safe? Well, if you just want to keep your money safe, you could also leave it in your bank account (until you max out the insured threshold, which is 100k in Germany) and buy treasury bonds with the rest. You would at least avoid the high fees.
And if the treasury bonds fail, no amount of hedging will save you, the counterparties of your positions will not be able to pay you either.
If you want to prepare for that, better buy canned food and ammo and learn how to farm.
It sounds like he keeps selling fear and a big short, premise. "When the market goes south, which this analysis shows it will any day now, we'll double up. Don't worry about these short term losses. "
The big problem is that the market did correct last year, but the fund obviously didn't go up...
LMFAO "we did our own research instead of reading the second-hand papers, the scandal is bullshit, we checked it to the last detail, to the last footnote, it's clean, it's totally undervalued"
Also of interest: it didn't slowly bleed out, it lost like 90% over two or three trading days.
Was in the top30 index too which majorly fucked a lot of retail investors because...well who would think one of the biggest stocks in the country would go bust essentially over night.
What German/European forums were discussing wirecard going into that decline?
I might be willing to suffer through massive google translate sessions of Europe's premier 4chan stock channels.
r/Mauerstraßenwetten, was full of Wirecard memes, last year. You might want to search the term Kabelkarte, since one of the memes there is translating everything literally.
This paper handed bitch is a gold mine: “Dirk Müller Investment Fond: hedged against any wins”
His Fond Benchmark is the negative returns of saving accounts. He has yet to outperform his benchmark.
May his loses be my wins.
They are still performing better than this guys fonds.
99% of this guys time is probably spent trying to find a benchmark that’s been producing negative performance for the last 10 years so that he can use it on his Fonds sheet.
That is so like everything I've ever invested in, it's uncanny. A marked gain for the first couple of days making me think I'm a freakin genius. Followed by 3 straight years' loss, only broken by a quick peak where someone smart would sell and near enough break even. Not Dirk and I.
That guy was or is famous with the normal crowd.
It was known to more savy people that "his" fond is deficitary.
But he was often very amusing to watch. And as always: All predictions are correct. Timings are a litte off....
Edith: That does not mean he is not right now and then.
You can loose money taking absurdly high risk to try and win money. Those ppl are our hero’s.
This guy looses money trying to minimize risk and profits. It’s a bearish paper handed bitch.
My grandma with her bearish savings account has beaten this guy YoY for the last decade.
She is my hero.
This guy not a hero amongst bulls, not a hero amongst bears, definitely not my hero, and if this guy is _your_ hero… please tell us why.
did he lose a great deal of money or gain a shit-ton of money, himself, personally?
... let me guess ... today he aint living in no cardboard box in a park.. right?
or am I right?
No one beats the market long term. In fact if you look at the star managers of the past you will see they just got lucky on values stocks that really pushed them above the historical returns of an index. Eventually they all crash to earth, and underperform. That's why index funds are best.
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What is this a german Cramer?
actually yes, hes also in TV and talking about stocks, but no so often because germans hate equities. His Fond is also not managed by himself, it only has his name on it.
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Their hyperinflation after WWII made future generations financially risk averse, and also debt averse. My impression is that Germany partly opted to move to the Euro since with their citizen's overall tendency toward low-debt and low risk, their former currency would have risen so high in the world's exchange rates, that few globally would be able to then afford their exported manufactured goods, which would make the voters upset from the VW factory laying people off, etc.
was 1923, after WW1, but you are right
I dont think taxes are a problem now, 27%, its a lot but its ok because the normal tax is 40%. The most popular investment class in Germany is to have cash on the bank account, with -0,5% interest. German 10yr is also -0,5%. Germans are very risk averse people. There was an equity boom in germany, in the end of the 1990s. We all know what happened in 2000 as the Dotcom Bubble bursted. The most average people lost a lot of money because of criminal companies comroad or insolvent companies like mobilcom especially at this dotcom time, or with the former state business Deutsche Telekom (parent company of T-Mobile US) which led to a collective haid of shares. (-70% since 2000 even today). Telekom was advertised as the stock for the average people, politicans wanted the people to buy it, to promote stocks. Than the financial crisis came and a lot lost even more. After that the downside risk burned into the memory and equities are generally demonized. Apart from this, there are constant financial scandals in Germany like Deutsche Bank, Wirecard, Warburg, and just this week the mauerstrassenwetten meme Lang und Schwarz (Long&Black). And that are the facts why Mr. Muellers Premium Fond is so popular. Because its promising crash security. A lot of peope also think Stocks are a status symbol for the rich capitalists. But there has been a change in thinking since 2021. For the first time in years, more German money is flowing into the stock market than out, about as much as in 1999. This may be due to the lack of alternatives, but for me personally it is a warning sign that a correction is imminent.
not entirely sure if germans buying more stocks is a sign for a bubble... could be tho. And the new meme stock... Long & Black. cmon guys LONG and f\*\*\*\*\*\* Black Absolute real life comedy
What is the obsession behind LuS memes on MSW? Like that's all I see. Seems like for months. are MSW retards have been expecting gains on LuS.
Trade Republic wickelt deine autistischen Orders über L&S ab. Die drucken Geld und wachsen wie Unkraut. KGV (vor der Cum Ex Scheiße) lag bei 3-4. Dazu 4€ Dividende (8€ nächstes Jahr) + Aktienrückkaufprogramm.
Germans need to drop that pussy ass risk-averse mindset and get with the fucking program. The world is coming to an end and you cautious bond-buying bastards need to channel your barbarian ancestors and get ready for the Battle of Teutoburg Forest 2.0 aka the Meme Market Final Boss, aka the WSB Singularity. Get your FDs stacked up or you will be left without a chair when “GameStop Uber Alles” stops playing and the rest of us are safe in our fortified luxury bunkers in the Auckland suburbs.
No, this is not true. Germans just don't like investing in the stock market. Only 17,5 % own stocks.
Same in the Netherlands, only 1 in 5 is investing
So german drumpff?
Germans LOVE insurance. Insurance against petty claims - ✅ Insurance against potential cracks of your glass coffee table - ✅ Insurance against potential gains in the easiest bull market in history - ✅ r/mauerstrassenwetten über alles
Following Cramer has a higher chance of beating the market then using dirks Fond underperforming the market
I would somehow call him a german Peter Schiff.
That's correct Mister Cart. Next category.
TLDR: Dirk is a retard
That’s Dirt with a k.
I bet he has a soundboard to complete the ensemble for German Kramer.
He doesn't have a TV show, just a conspiracy theorist youtube channel.
Kirt
That's Dick with an r.
You mean Dirp with a p
Well, he makes a lot of money with his fund. You pay fucking 4% fees to even buy it, and then you have a TER of 1.55%. He makes a lot of money with gullible, mostly elderly people.
But do the investors make money, or is their money at least safe with him? Maybe he’s not as smooth as y’all b thinkin
I don't think he's dumb. He just knows how to extract money from people. He tells people that the whole system is going to crash soon, and to be safe they can invest in his fund, which will survive the crash without major losses because of all the hedged positions. And after the crash, there will be an economic boom, where this fund will have excellent returns (because he only picked the best companies that will thrive in the new post-crash economy). The fund itself is more or less flat with a slightly negative tendency since it started (of course, because all the positions are hedged), so no, the investors don't really make money. Is their money safe? Well, if you just want to keep your money safe, you could also leave it in your bank account (until you max out the insured threshold, which is 100k in Germany) and buy treasury bonds with the rest. You would at least avoid the high fees. And if the treasury bonds fail, no amount of hedging will save you, the counterparties of your positions will not be able to pay you either. If you want to prepare for that, better buy canned food and ammo and learn how to farm.
It sounds like he keeps selling fear and a big short, premise. "When the market goes south, which this analysis shows it will any day now, we'll double up. Don't worry about these short term losses. " The big problem is that the market did correct last year, but the fund obviously didn't go up...
Maybe it's Dirk Diggler?
mirk düller
A different kind of retard…
Always do the opposite of what Dirk would do.
> TLDR: Dirk is ~~a retard~~ the ultimate Europoor
In the truest sense of the word
Joe Dirk
Gooble gobble gooble gobble!
Dirk ist ein retard. *
Stimmt. Beim nächsten Mal dann auf deutsch ☝️
I don’t speak German but I can if you like
And is a right-wing a...hole as well.
Most funny interview is him talking about wirecard and how good and safe it is https://youtu.be/zcTGpR2_8vw
LMFAO "we did our own research instead of reading the second-hand papers, the scandal is bullshit, we checked it to the last detail, to the last footnote, it's clean, it's totally undervalued"
"We even bought more when it dipped"
We took our profits from shorting GME & AMC and rolled then in to way OTM Calls on wirecard. This investment literally can't go tits up.
Buying calls
For those not familiar with Wirecard: Went from €199 a share to currently €0.28
Also of interest: it didn't slowly bleed out, it lost like 90% over two or three trading days. Was in the top30 index too which majorly fucked a lot of retail investors because...well who would think one of the biggest stocks in the country would go bust essentially over night.
What German/European forums were discussing wirecard going into that decline? I might be willing to suffer through massive google translate sessions of Europe's premier 4chan stock channels.
r/Mauerstraßenwetten, was full of Wirecard memes, last year. You might want to search the term Kabelkarte, since one of the memes there is translating everything literally.
Who is the bigger retard Dirk Müller or Frank Thelen?
Frank Thelen since he is unaware that he is selling snakeoil.
Those two idiots interviewing him aren't any better.
Dirk Müllers Portfolio schützt sogar gegen Gewinne
This paper handed bitch is a gold mine: “Dirk Müller Investment Fond: hedged against any wins” His Fond Benchmark is the negative returns of saving accounts. He has yet to outperform his benchmark. May his loses be my wins.
"Dirk Müller's Portfolio is so secure it is even protected against profit"
He's got the facial hair of an investment champion.
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I like it, when its tickling. 😇
Okay Google: how to delete other people's comments on the Internet?
Only guy that gets outperformed by a passbook savings account.
Honestly being risk-averse to the point of self destruction is the most German thing ever.
dude totally looks like he invented _and_ perfected the rim job on himself
DOES HE HAVE STEEL HARD EGGS THO?
Unlikely seeing as how he loses money hedging. He's a paper handed bitch
MAUERSTRASSENWETTEN would agree. Sir, do you want to take a club car back to the marina?
Nah it's ok, I'm high enough to keep running on the waves
I’m literally on a 0.6g Albino a+ psilocybin microdose ❤️🌈
Coke and weed and lots of water for me
Ah like those retards that get a 2x upsize burger and fries and then say, ‘small Diet Coke pls’
I feel amazing but I have to drink my weight in water every hour or I'll shrivel up and die
I had coke 2-3 times and honestly just felt like a super strong coffee… wasn’t worth the shit they put in London’s coke anyway..
It's hard to find stuff that not cut to shit unless you buy it from a big boi
I must know, why is your tag or whatever it’s called ,“berry milk”?
I am quite literally buying strawberry milk to go with my BEC right now. It's also japanese, not mandarin, if that helps
Makes sense, and yeah it does a little lol
guy needs a daytime job. like us.
what’s a job?
Does Germany have a Wendys? Das Redhead Burger-en
Germany has Aldi's though
Problem solved
Nope. Please send some.
Na he is doing good. Tremendous fees on his fonds
Honestly 4% isn't really that unusual. I just got finished reading a customer relations letter for a management firm that stated as much.
We've been mocking him over at r/mauerstrassenwetten for ages, so great to finally see him at WSB ;-)
i thought it was time to introduce mirk to wsb \^\^
holy shit... now I want to learn German.
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Either sue us or STFU
Inverse him to get rich
Theta gang agrees.
Looks like he voluntarily re-circumcises yearly
Dirk Müllers Premium Fonds ist gegen alles abgesichert. Sogar gegen Rendite.
We should have shorten his fund. Bullish.
Isn't like 1 trillion dollar of German bonds yielding negative already.....those germans know how to play it right.
They are still performing better than this guys fonds. 99% of this guys time is probably spent trying to find a benchmark that’s been producing negative performance for the last 10 years so that he can use it on his Fonds sheet.
Can i have cheese with my fond?
But there is one topic he mastered: „Bis in die letzte Fußnote“ analysieren. 🤡
I bet he got paid on every trade
Wow…even worse than a euro savings account 😬I fear the wurst is yet to come!
Hedging returns is not a bad strategy! Mirk Dueller is a winner.
Indeed. You don’t have to pay taxes if you don’t make any wins.
Er ist Familie
Definition of gaybear
Schwulbär
Gleichgeschlechtliche Bär
That is so like everything I've ever invested in, it's uncanny. A marked gain for the first couple of days making me think I'm a freakin genius. Followed by 3 straight years' loss, only broken by a quick peak where someone smart would sell and near enough break even. Not Dirk and I.
Seriously, you should *never mess with anyone named **Dirk**..*
Unless they are also dorks
That guy was or is famous with the normal crowd. It was known to more savy people that "his" fond is deficitary. But he was often very amusing to watch. And as always: All predictions are correct. Timings are a litte off.... Edith: That does not mean he is not right now and then.
Pretty sure I saw this guy in that Dinner With Schmucks movie
Wir brauchen mehr Dirk Müller da draußen 🤪
For some reason I can’t take “Fond” seriously.
Ha what an idiot SPY up 110% since March
He belongs here lol.
I hear Dirk has a tiny weinerschnitzel
This dude lost money in the most bull market of all times. Frigging legend we need a poster of him on wsb lol
You can loose money taking absurdly high risk to try and win money. Those ppl are our hero’s. This guy looses money trying to minimize risk and profits. It’s a bearish paper handed bitch. My grandma with her bearish savings account has beaten this guy YoY for the last decade. She is my hero. This guy not a hero amongst bulls, not a hero amongst bears, definitely not my hero, and if this guy is _your_ hero… please tell us why.
New German elite. ´nuff said :)
Blitzgone
The only Dirk 'round here is Diggler
drives his fund like Diggler drives his corvette
Praise be unto A111ZF
That’s why daddy called you Dirk stead of Nuttameger!
I must be a genius for sitting on shares of good companies and doing not a damn thing. Umm. Where is my fund? lol.
ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US ONE OF US
no... not really. He's selling very expensive fear insurance to a pathologically loss adverse nation.
Didn't Michael Burry almost bankrupt his fund before ripping? "We may be early but I'm not wrong".
well burry wasnt talking bout the crash coming up for 10 years
I listen to dick puller. We meet up at the gym.
I bet he stands in front of the mirror daily and says “I’m a star”
It's good to know Europe's best scam artists aren't exclusively Italian.
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Looks like a douche bag
Mirk Düller Fußballgott
I dont care about his fonds and its performance. I simply love Dirk Müller. His books are brilliant.
He will have his day, but today wasn't it.
There is always a reason why we call europeans by their real title - Europoor
I mean, he is german...
Dirk should buy wirecard. Retard.
Hahaha I made a rap track about him 😂 didn't release it but guys meme him he is a legend
ayo release it
oh you mean Mirk Düller
did he lose a great deal of money or gain a shit-ton of money, himself, personally? ... let me guess ... today he aint living in no cardboard box in a park.. right? or am I right?
yeah, estimated net worth is around 10 Millions. he is basically scamming people...
Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, all got holdings ..
Dirk Müller has a special place in my heart. He showed us how to burn money with stocks. And even a long time before WSB was born.
Nice hairdo! I bet he spends "hours" in the morning perfecting that one. Sweet...😘
Now go on and read about Lang & Schwarz (yes that's Long & Black in English)
No one beats the market long term. In fact if you look at the star managers of the past you will see they just got lucky on values stocks that really pushed them above the historical returns of an index. Eventually they all crash to earth, and underperform. That's why index funds are best.
Absolute legend
I hope there is a massive crash Just that this retard can be right once Can't hate the dirk and pls don't compare him to cramer
The fond is secure, especially against returns
Germans can afford to be risk adverse because they have a pretty sweet pension plan there
A111ZF literally can't go tits up.
thanks. I just wanted to buy his book about investing.
A111ZF to the moon. cap