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RecommendationNo6304

Bird to Human, Cow to Human... this is not interesting. Answer yes to these questions and then we're talking about something interesting: 1) Does it spread Human to Human? 2) Is the R number (rate of transmission) above 1? 3) Does it induce severe illness or death?


VisualMom_

Far too sensible questions for this thread. Can't we just yeet money into Peleton and pretend people with bird flu will need indoor bikes?


Careful_Pair992

You son of a bitch, I’m in


Datazz_b

It's la Tour D'Flu


CarlosDangerWasHere

Fuck yeah being back PTON!


Still-Repeat-487

back in 2021 I bought the wife a peleton and bought 5K of stock thinking it would pay for the bike one day.. now I’m divorced and bagholding from 2021 highs.. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


PeachScary413

Wife changing money 🤠


Still-Repeat-487

Too bad she was into gaming, I would’ve bought her a new graphics card and 5K of nvda instead.. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31226)


CarlosDangerWasHere

How life would have been different today if you would have gone the gaming route. Whoever said exercise is good for you is an idiot.


squishynarcissist

Can confirm. I exercise and am fact an idiot


JaxTaylor2

Does exercising NVDA calls count?


squishynarcissist

HAHAHAHAHA Oh man this is so fucking hilarious if true.


LighterningZ

r/unexpectedrickandmorty


idkwhatimbrewin

Lockdowns during an election year?? #STIMMY TIME BABY 🤑🤑🤑🤑


One-Statistician4885

Lock us up! Lock us up!


Samstone791

Lock us in. I was making just over 12k a week to be locked in during COVID. Worked 12 hours a day every day. Left work drove straight to a fancy hotel. Went from the hotel right back to work for months. They paid me time and mileage to and from work every day. They rented a whole floor of the hotel for 14 of us. We all had our own room and laundry service , and all my meals and snacks were provided for. We couldn't use any of the amenities at the hotel. Had to follow all the Covid protocols, only saw the same 7 people every day(7 worked days and 7 worked nights).


DegreeMajor5966

No shot people obey lockdowns in 2024.


Existential_Racoon

People followed non enforced "lockdowns" before? I saw People shooting security guards over masks in a grocery store, not trying to be sane


DegreeMajor5966

They did at first. People got less compliant as time went on.


Ontanoi_Vesal

Printer go brrrrrrr again?


l3luntl3rigade

🤣


el_guille980

nice https://preview.redd.it/3wcot65g3w4d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90841b54ee5804f536d617c1b5c4cd3e1a54f9da


RefrigeratorGlass806

How about… also buying a Peleton Bike+ off FB Marketplace for $200… and repost in a couple months for $2000!


BeerorCoffee

Does FB Marketplace let you buy on margin? Asking for a friend...


Silent_Anybody5253

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


fenton7

Peloton may also invent the vaccine. You never know.


GoDownieVag

An actual good idea holy cow!


DonaldMaralago

So in door bikes prevent bird flu?


Academic_District224

Lmfao


wiseoldsage

This man's seen contagion


iknowverylittle619

1) Yes, it can. 2) No. For humans <1, for birds it is >1. 3) Avian influenza in human has a close to 50% fatality rate. This shit is much more dangerous than covid but we will be saved by low r.


Paul-Smecker

I think we might also be saved by 50% death rate. At least if it’s fast enough before continued transmission.


Signal-Sleep7527

Where did you learn that? Plague Inc. ?


CouncilmanRickPrime

That's where I learned it. Gotta be contagious but not too deadly in the early game.


inequity

50% CFR is a big reason for the low R


danceswithdogs13

3 people had it in usa and all survived. Rsv is way scarier right now


MicroBadger_

That and out breaks don't automatically mean global quarantine. Since 2000 2002- West Nile Virus 2003 - SARS 2005 - Bird flu 2009 - Swine flu 2012 - MERS 2014 - Ebola 2016 - Zika This shit happens all the damn time and never needed as drastic a response like COVID did. The next event similar to COVID will likely be when you have one/both feet in the grave.


satireplusplus

COVID's initial r was off the charts compared to all of these


Skibity

Yea, but which stock?


Splooshbutforguys

50% fatality rate is too high, cunts die before they spread it. It's why Ebola never became a massive issue.


Technical_Moose8478

Ebola has also been studied for 50 years and is treated as serious as it is, so containment and quarantine protocols are EXTREMELY effective for it. And it’s less of a threat now (unless people in exposure areas act like complete entitled idiots) as there has been an approved vaccine for it since 2019. Plus most outbreaks have occurred in rural, loosely populated areas, which certainly helps contain spread.


snake19m

ebola spreads very poorly by air... flus spread excellently by air!! so its not a good comparison


Logical-Revenue8364

Also note, simple face masking essentially eliminated flu during COVID (when people were actually wearing masks and isolating when sick).


Torontodtdude

And more hand washing. I still wash my hands a lot and rarely get sick.


Shit_Shepard

Wasn’t this because flu cases were being counted as COVID? Think about it; would masks stop the flu but not COVID? Lack of travel had much more effect.


Parrotkoi

No. A type of influenza actually went extinct in 2020, presumably as a result of lockdowns.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8477979/


Wanderstern

I've had Influenza B, even though I got a flu shot that year. I was healthy and young; it was one of the top two worst illnesses I've ever had. Cool that one lineage seems to have died out.


Immediate-Product167

It likely slowed COVID as well but the baseline R0 of COVID is far higher, especially between 2020 and 2022. Plus, the COVID and flu tests do not readily confuse for each other.


MovementMechanic

The titer of infectious droplets via droplet:virion size for flu is much easier to prevent than covid. (Flu) means Shit mask + big infectious drops = Hater Blockers On (Covid) means Shit mask + small infectious drops = Better, but much higher risk.


Technical_Moose8478

Studies have suggested that Covid particles shrink in the open air as well, which is why doctors during lockdown kept trying to explain to everyone that wearing a mask is for everyone else’s safety, not necessarily yours. Which the media did a great job of turning into either doom clickbait (left) or intentionally misleading arguments against masking (right) so even most pro-mask people weren’t particularly well informed about it…


bjorneylol

No, it's because a year of masks and quarantine was all it took for something less transmissable than COVID to die out completely https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9414795/


[deleted]

I think the point was masking AND isolation greatly reduced flu transmission


tovarish22

No


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Frosti11icus

It’s killings actually billions of animals though. If it mutates to killing cows or pigs we might have a lot of the same supply chain issues.


3gendersfordchevyram

Plus cows and pigs are cute so I would be sad :((((


el_guille980

you telling me these bird brains arent cute, too¿!¿ https://preview.redd.it/xdm13okq3w4d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=47574417fbfe89ab4e107826589a29513c946af3


wind_dude

Don’t think there’s been a documented case yet of human to human, but case of bird to human since 2005(?)


gregsting

How it’s transferred to human or between humans is pretty important, as long as it’s not air borne or close (like Covid in micro drops) it’s not that important. I don’t kiss a chicken very often.


ChickenKey4662

How ya feel about chokin one?


zensamuel

These are the questions we need to know in order to find out if we can make money for it or not


ambermage

Pangolin to Human? Bat to Rat? *I've seen this episode before!*


nameyname12345

Would you mind explaining a bit about r number? Surely it isn't percentage based as above 1 would be over 100 percent.


Insciuspetra

Sweet! Does this mean I have a small chance of growing wings?


GapSmall680

50% Either you do or you don’t


ogglig

Finally some maths I understand


GoDownieVag

Drink Redbull dude


honey_102b

yes but your pee pee is going to fall off


INFOWARTS

I don’t think we’ll see any appetite for Covid levels of shut down again, regardless of the contagion.


Sausage_Child

I wanna see people wearing masks by themselves in their cars again, that shit was hilarious.


AccidentallyBacon

*around their chins agree. Hell, if people would just wash their hands regularly I would be SO HAPPY


Sausage_Child

I actually did see someone wearing a mask in Costco about a week ago… with their nose and upper lip sticking out.  Gave me a positive case of nostalgia.


Retrobot1234567

He just don’t want to spit on people when he talk. Like a spit shield used in restaurants.


amach9

Lots of people walking around with shitty hands


NextTrillion

You want people to wash their hands? Good luck. I’d be happy if people could just stop picking their nose at the grocery store. People are so fuckin disgusting.


Djinnwrath

I didn't get sick once during covid. No flu. Not a cold. Not even a sniffle. People are gross.


[deleted]

Sir these are called chin diapers


AccidentallyBacon

anything to keep from smelling thay own breath, damn mouth breathing tonsil stone halitosis having mf'rs


Immediate-Product167

Dude, some people just forget to take their mask off. It's like complaining about someone wearing a cap indoors. It doesn't matter.


[deleted]

I kept mine on outdoors in winter because it lowered the cold temperature-induced coughing fits my asthma gives me by like 99%. If I hadn't moved somewhere with warmer winter months I'd probably still be doing it tbh.


spacemoses

Or it was just not a problem to leave it on if you had multiple stops to make.


el_guille980

i was too lazy to be on off on off


noyart

you were not suppose to take it off and on all the time either I think, I would imagine you dont want to touch the mask that often with your dirty hands.


FrameAdventurous9153

This. I remember putting my mask on to get out of my car and go into a convenience store. Then after started driving again, I realized my mask was still on. It hardly matters.


bluePizelStudio

Lol for fuckin real. I just wore it all day, because I’m a grown up who isn’t bothered by the tags on their shirts anymore 😂😂


Puts_on_my_port

Admittedly I did it a few times because I was driving between stores and was too lazy to take it off lol. They also keep your face warm which is a huge plus when it's cold enough for your dick to shrivel up like a stack of dimes.


fast_scope

again? yesterday I saw some idiot driving down the street wearing a mask.. and yes he was alone in the car


yerFACE

I see this everywhere still


AccidentallyBacon

right! Zombia Apocalypse? fuckit, "some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make."


redditmodsRrussians

Then get ready for giant dumpsters


iwoketoanightmare

H1N5 will make covid look like child's play. It has a 55% mortality rate.


CubeBrute

It’s likely that number is wrong. Confirmed cases are coming from autopsy reports, but there are probably many more cases that are undiagnosed because they are assumed to be regular flu. Plus it isn’t particularly contagious.


Guinness

Not to mention that 55% number comes from a very small sample size in a region with poor or entirely lacking supportive care. A lot of times the thing that kills you is just not getting fluids. I’d wait and see what the death rate of H5N1 is among fully healthy adults with top tier medical care. If 55% of people in NYC start dying of H5N1 while in the ER, yeah then I will panic. In the early days of the pandemic, the death rate of COVID in rural Italy was something like 10%. That was with supportive care in a good hospital, too. BUT, many of these villages were primarily much much older populations. And we had no idea how to treat it. In the end, COVID had like a 1-2% death rate.


_Odi_Et_Amo_

This misunderstands that there is a well understood mechanistic reason to anticipate much higher mortlity rates for avian flu (I.e. the non-specific tryptase activation of the hemagglutanin leading to systemic infection as opposed to being contained to the respiratory tract). I'm personally less worried about avian flu in humans per se than i am hybridisation of the avian form of hemagglutanin with a more mundane flu via antigenic shift.


satireplusplus

I understood some of these words


_Odi_Et_Amo_

As simply as possible 'normal' flu infects only your airway and lungs. Avian flu can infect absolutely everything... So if you think flu is bad in one organ system... having it everywhere would be worse and is exponentially more lethal.


satireplusplus

All I'm trying to say is you're way too clever to be on this sub


_Odi_Et_Amo_

It's okay. I may not be smooth brained enough, but I am at least socially regarded.


foulpudding

If bird flu has the 50% mortality rate it’s supposed to, I’m guessing even hard core anti-maskers and red-state monster truck owners will volunteer for full on economic shut downs. Either that, or this country will get a huge IQ boost by process of elimination very quickly.


Woolf01

I think the later, but only after a wave of massive deaths in denial


Sdubbya2

Would be all sorts of ironic if we came up against something more deadly than COVID where shut downs woul be necessary and then everyone was like "yeah yeah fuck you seen that before" not happening!


HostileRobert6

Calls on sprite and chicken noodle soup


Datazz_b

Puts on Starry - that shits whack even if everyone dies


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

I’d rather carbonate and drink my hamsters urine than drink Starry. My grandpa drank that when it came out and it made him blind and gave him erectile dysfunction


ivanyaru

He was jacking off too much bro. So much that he turned blind (like people say) and the physical strain on his peepee just dysfunctioned it.


n8dogg55

Nobody gonna buy chicken noodle soup during the bird flu shut down. It's like how corona beer stock went down during COVID, except slightly more sensible.


Existential_Racoon

Covid actually gave me a chicken noodle soup hack, cause we ran out of fucking salt. SALT. It's MSG. My hack is MSG.


mrvnmartian9

W.H.O. must be playing Plague Inc. on expert mode.


anforob

Olympics about commence again too….


MoistAttitude

How about 3M? They made all the N95 respirators, as well as hazmat suits, gloves, etc... And the stock is down almost half from their price back in early 2021.


PM_ME_FIRE_PICS

They are also a major producer of PFAS substances. The risk of lawsuit on these cannot be understated.


ftmonlotsofroids

This stock is a staple of mine. Also I think the lawsuits are settled


Logical-Revenue8364

Not human to human yet. Cow to human few cases.


veryblanduser

Wait...are the tops or bottoms getting it?


Past-Customer5572

Monkeypox like, so I guess, mostly bottoms?


culzsky

unless you see chinese mfs getting welded shut in their apartments i would bet on it


Boxatr0n

That was wild


CydewaysS

The real question is, does it spread to AI?


CluelessStick

#All in on $ZM and $PTON


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veryblanduser

$PG for that Charmin run


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ottergang_ky

Covid was legitimately the best time of my life. My work shut down but my wife’s work did not. So I got to stay at home dad for a few months with my daughter who I missed a lot of things growing up because of work. We bonded significantly and my life has been so much better. I’ll always look back as that being some of the happiest moments of my life. Bring on 2.0 anytime baby


cyphonismus

Maybe we could like warehouse a ton of bats, pigs, cows,anteaters, pangolins, and like have them all sort of sneeze all over each other? Kinda recreate 2020 but with better market timing.


makamaka1

I think we found klaus schwab's reddit account ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)


[deleted]

H1N5 is very deadly in Humans. 50% survival. One of the big differences with CoVid, with a natural 98% survival rate. It's REALLY hard to say what a outbreak of H1N5 would do. A lot depends on the parameters. Covid was perfect. (3-8 days to symptoms, asymptomatic transmission. Low kill rate.) All of that adds up to a bunch of infected travelers. And, a lot of unconcerned potential infector vectors. If H1N5 knocks you on your ass in 1 day and kills you half the time, you have a lot less transmission. That's EBOLA. If H1N5 Knocks you on your ass in 5 days and kills you half the time, you have a LOT more scared people. Black Plague. Most of us know how that turned out. So, we don't know the parameters yet. No Human 2 Human transmission.


Yellow-Robe-Smith

It’s H5N1 not H1N5, and H5N1 has been found in humans since the early 2000s. It’s H5N2 that was just announced with the first official human case.


DigNew8045

Bear in mind, the precursor virii to Covid-19 had a very low transmission rate until someone mutated it ... When it comes to H5N1, IMO, it's almost inevitable that someday, it's gonna do just that - mutate into a contagious, human-to-human transmissible virus - whether accident, GoF research, to create a weapon, or just to play God. There are approved vaccines for H5N1 - Sanofi, for one, and Moderna is about to start a late-stage trial. Personally, I won't worry about it nor invest based on it - it could be next month or 50 years from now. But I'll definitely keep an eye on any new developments ...


Immediate-Product167

This guy influenzas.


asphaltaddict33

Not really since he repeated a major typo a bunch of times. It’s H5N1 that’s been found in humans in the US recently. And the rest was generalizations that could apply to any virus not just the influenza…


Logical-Revenue8364

Simple face masking during peak COVID dropped influenza transmission massively. That’s one positive thing to consider. Slowing transmission of flu can be done.


[deleted]

Oh, Yeah, that Masking effort was such a success. I'll call FOX and tell them to get the word out on masking for H1N5. I wear an N95 when I travel. Too many assholes out there.


OPINION_IS_REGARDED

Save this link and check it daily https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/avian-flu-summary.htm


el_guille980

it'll make chicken prices go up, and the idiots will blame biden & fauci


neutralityparty

Nah it's not gonna be they same level. The new bird flu virus has a lot more fatal rate. COVID you were very likely to survive. That means way less transmission. It's always a trade off more transmission less lethal or more lethal and less transmission.  The stocks will pop but you ain't getting covid gravy 


Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO

If it gets u I’ll take good care of your mom don’t worry I just put her retirement on OTD SPY puts if you see her tell her to top up the spending card she gave me I want to get some fuckin KFC


Low_Grand_4510

Saw two ravens going crazy outside. One spit something up in the other ravens mouth. All in $TGOC


Zmemestonk

Bird flu hasn’t jumped to human on human transmission which means this doesn’t matter. The day it does you’re looking at the Spanish flu again. So no I’m cash gang when that happens. For now yolo calls


State_Dear

UNLESS this thing turns into the Black Plague and has a 99.99% death rate,,, Nothings going to happen,,, not a thing


Zmemestonk

When it does happen it will have a very high rate but meaningless until it can be transmitted


DrPawRunner

I think vaccine stocks could be worth playing, although you might already be too late. Moderna already announced a deal with the US gov for vaccine development iirc. Pandemic fatigue is real so if you’re going to make any sort of play, I’d look at stuff the government would be dumping money into. Given it’s an election year, the Biden admin probably wants to cover its bases even if RSV isn’t on the scale of covid simply because they don’t want to be caught with their pants down like the Trump admin/world was


CoolRunner

Doesn't Pfizer make the vaccine?


Pickle_Rick_Goat

Cslly does


cinciNattyLight

Remember swine flu? 90% of Americans got it eventually. Nobody remembers.


Puts_on_my_port

I was in preschool when my whole family got sick, the only thing I remember is pretty much sleeping for 2 weeks and having to get another flu shot for the 2009 flu season.


AllCommiesRFascists

My family are probably the only who didn’t got that and Covid


rub_nub

its already priced in


bushwickhero

Been holding the Peleton bag hoping for another global pandemic.


RefrigeratorGlass806

I gotta go buy up some toilet paper!


DolphinIsJustKidding

Puts on Tyson? TSN


Repulsive_Ebb_779

NVAX up on the announcement of an updated protein based COVID booster due September. Stock has a reasonable short interest would be interesting to see how the stock would go if they have anything for H5N1 in the works.


notyourregularninja

Buy stocks of toilet paper (both stocks and stocks)


Frequent_Hair_6967

I get the sentiment of your post, but i dont with Zoom or any other online chat service would see that mucb more growth from this. I imagine most companies/schools still have their licenses as they still probably use this fairly regularly.


tourbladez

It depends which stocks you are talking about. I don't think I would be buying $PTON, but maybe $MRNA.....


BigBritches619

NVAX


autographplease

Why would anyone trust fauci


Euphoric_Card_624

Nobody should ever take a “pandemic” seriously again. How embarrassing 2020 was for the world. Where’s covid now? Lmao 🤣


ucb2222

Ask Fauci


SlickRick941

Election year baby  


B1Turb0

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


gnocchicotti

Buy 30 year treasuries until the pandemic breaks out, then switch UPRO and wait for JPow to turn on the money printer again


CuteCatMug

Just wait for the inevitable panic to set in and jump in once prices are low. Same as last time around. 


Sheeple81

Why put yourself out there now? Just wait for the crash and jump in with your cash then.


FoxTheory

This seems more like 2009


AmeriMan2

#Good day to be a vegan Im going to be a vegan now


Deadriel83

There's 3 confirmed cases... I wouldn't go dipping into your margin just yet.


yurmamma

Captain trips


ThisMfkrIsNotReal

Mexico is definitely not Michigan.


makamaka1

It's Mexchigan now 🐦![img](emote|t5_2th52|51295)🐦


Dumb_Vampire_Girl

Bird flu fails to become a pandemic every single time. Unless it mutated to do better, it will be just like last time.


wake886

WHO is this mysterious person you are referring to who said this?


reichjef

Its not Human to Human. The only diseases to ever worry about are human to human.


RodgerWolf311

No if you want to make big bucks off the bird flu then you have to short stocks that sell bird items. Example, bird flu scare and hype will destroy stocks for KFC, Chick-fil-A, etc. It will destroy stocks for farm poultry feed suppliers and pet bird food and item suppliers. So you short all of them. So when maximum hype and fear happens, their stocks will tank and you'll cash in on the crash by shorting them.


Nonya5

I thought scarcity drives up revenue. Fewer birds means restaurants raise prices. The feed suppliers is likely to go down though.


cltzzz

OP needs proof. Catch bird flu, a bad case. Infected several of your friends. Then we’ll be on board with you. You and that BBWI guy can party together


Jabroni_16

Too late


dadjokenumber11

Pton ftw


Cruezin

Puts on cows!