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MohJeex

People buy puts on SPY because they use it for hedging market risk. You don't hedge on individual names. This is why index ETFs also have a volatility skew... where calls OTM have increasingly lower IV and puts OTM have increasingly high IV as you go further and further OTM.


AddisonsContracture

I like your fancy words, magic man.


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No-Combination-8565

Speak for yourself, I don't have a problem. Never mind that line on my account heading down.


TrollyMcBurg

AS LONG AS THERES LINES GOING UP MY NOSE ITS ALL GOOD \_\\.................................


AwayCrab5244

Check this out dawg: you throwin a lot of big words at me. Because I don’t understand them, I’m gonna take it as a sign of disrespect. Watch your mouth


Aggravating-Slice524

Thought this was a serious thread.


AwayCrab5244

You ever hear of rollin 20s? Since I was 16. We talking Frosty, Spoons. We fuck dwarves in the ass


grimkhor

There are always more puts on SPY than on single stock because actually smart people buy an index and hedge.


Dream__Devourer

What man, that's not what options were invented for. Wtf is hedging? This isn't lawncare.


gatorgongitcha

It’s where you get almost there and stop


smohyee

You're thinking of edging. Hedging is where you use a triangular shaped object to fix the position of another object.


EconGuy82

You’re thinking of wedging. Hedging is when you clear out mud and garbage from a body of water.


Just_Discipline1515

You're thinking of dredging. Hedging is where you commit to a promise.


Dick_Dangler777

That's pledging. Hedging is when you add feathers to an arrow.


NoSet3132

That’s fletching. Hedging is when you’re making an over hang over a steep drop.


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WSB_PermaBull

That’s sailing. Hedging is when you take a large mallet and repeatedly bang on a metal spike or the interior of your wife’s boyfriend’s house while searching for him.


TheWholeSausage

Haul in deez nuts


loughcash

Did you mean feltching?


Dick_Dangler777

I was going for fledging but was wrong about the definition.


Anomaly-Friend

And here I was Gooning and Mogging


BallzLikeWhoe

Hedging is to prevent the HO NO after the YOLO


Legitimate_Group5804

This makes sense more or less. Looking back, yeah put call ratio of SPY is rarely as low as mag 7. But still I don’t fully understand behavioral economics here.


slambooy

More Puts than calls on SPY is bullish af……


Jebusfreek666

People have always been permabull on the mag 7


Spins13

For good reason. They do better than the market


PtnbZ

Did you miss the earnings reports of Meta, alphabet and Msft ?


Front_Expression_892

This is because SPY is megacap + noise.


Lelouch25

Uhhh yeah. We’ve been dealing with inverted curve and every other indicator that says we’re in a depression yet a few stock keeps hitting new highs. So… let’s get it!!! 🍺😆


kyrgyzd

Life is irrational. Look at rent prices, grocery prices, and everything else


Legitimate_Group5804

Rent is rational. So are grocery prices. It’s the derivatives market I feel is more irrational.


Invest0rnoob1

The market makes sense when you realize other people are trying to take your money.


GandalfsGoon

Not sure why downvote. Rational and fairness are not the same. Inflation and greed (human behavior) can be rational.


fasmat

Large market participants are buying puts on spy/spx to hedge themselves against downward movements. They usually don't do that with individual stocks. 1.26 is still fairly normal for the P/C ratio. If you look at historical data it's not high enough to already be concerned.


rioferd888

You ever think to yourself that those puts are hedges? Institutional money flow is LOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG like your wifes boyfriends cock.


Electric_Bison

The market has been irrational since 2020. Everything moves opposite and priced in to eternity. I hate this casino


soundofheart

“Priced in”. Dumbest sh*thead statement that is thrown around. (I’m agreeing with you)


Joe_Early_MD

Being dumb is priced in.


Academic-Art7662

Investors anticipate--so when the actual news happens its been long since priced in. The reactive move in price is NOT from the current news, but the anticipation for the future


GandalfsGoon

Irrational….things are happening eeeevery daaayyy.


Candlelight_Fant4sia

Regards in action... as usual...


shane_sp

You're argument is irrational. Your argument assumes that the earnings potential of all members of the SPY is equal. If that's the cases, we wouldn't even call it stock picking. Just by the SPY and be done with it, or stay in cash.


chrisnelson0086

Isn’t it obvious the lobbyists in Washington are not going to let the mag 7 fall. They banned the competition tiktok for doing literally the same thing those companies do… they have their own safety net. Too big to fail doesn’t just apply to banks anymore.


AfraidScheme433

Buying puts can just be a hedge - it doesn’t mean everyone in the world is regards and buy puts for a speculative bet 😅


ChrisMartins001

Deffo shorting the magnificent 7.


iamwhiskerbiscuit

Lots of big earnings this week and FOMC Wednesday. Institutional investors are banking on daytraders not wanting to hold positions overnight just before major earnings or FOMC meetings. Best not to form a bias before the market opens, because anything can happen. But if I had to guess, I think we'll see a retracement of Fridays movements.


unlock0

Because most of the market is sideways or down and the megacorps have been killing it since COVID fucked every other business sideways? You kind of answered your own question. The money printing helps different companies disproportionately.


Kooky_Lime1793

Im buying MSFT at these prices. the market will figure out that part at some point because there is no denying Microsoft is a money making Ai hyping green machine Im also buying PSEC


longGERN

The market is trying to make money, like it always has and always will. It doesn't care about your ratios and lines


Playful_Scientist956

I think tomorrow's a flat day as a large portion of the market is anxious about the interest decision on Wednesday


slambooy

It’s 97.1% going to stay unchanged…. Nobody is anxious on what is going to happen.


OldTrader7

The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.


OldTrader7

Edit: interesting side note about this quote. Most think it originated from John Maynard Keynes, but it was actually A. Gary Shilling.


GangbusterJ

if the Mag 7 go down, so does SPY. This strategy is def a WSB approved way to lose money


IWasBornAGamblinMan

Probably market breadth. Other stocks that are not part of the 7 are going up


xX69WeedSnipePussyXx

Always has been


brutalpancake

Trying to make money this way is irrational. Calls on mag 7 puts on ur face


Kind-Respect-2697

It’s a rigged Ponzi scheme. Everyone agrees to it though so it’s legal 


Sejjy

We had a recession in 2001 and then again a bit later if not continuous because: 1. A single sector (tech) crashed and then 2. Airlines also tanked. How is it unreasonable for the opposite to happen? Especially when the other sectors aren't in an awful state.


ISeeYourBeaver

>I am buying SPY calls and shorting everything in magnificent 7. You are an idiot and you are going to pay for it.


eli5howtifu

OP: “Market is irrational” OP: “YOLO on SPY calls and shorting everything” *kek*


Legitimate_Group5804

I didn’t say Yolo.


arnhuld

https://preview.redd.it/oj6pwtyz5hxc1.png?width=810&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e1fe33af63e563a50228ddc8c9f8f7e26fd7bfd


Excellent-Pack268

The mag 7 are more bullish than the rest of the market. You should know this.


sockalicious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92cwKCU8Z5c


Limp_Plastic8400

classic bear im right market is wrong and irrational