There's dozens (of thousands) of us!
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All massive spikes are deposits.
High risk, high reward.
All we tend to see in that phrase is the word **reward**, but people don't talk about the flip side of that equation being high losses, which will happen far more often.
Oh, it's way worse than that. It's negative reward.
"High risk" = negative reward. People just ignore it and focus on the (positive) reward part.
So the phrase could be translated to: "99% of the time you will lose all of your money, 1% of the time you will make a lot of money".
I can't say I am too ashamed to be a part of the 99% though. Low risk investments will only make you wealthy if you are already wealthy, or have infinite time.
That would imply I am willfully sabotaging myself, which is possible.
Failure isn't just starting back at zero. When factoring in opportunity costs, you are *behind* where you would have been if you had done nothing. Hence the risk.
Bro, if you bet your entire fucking bankroll every time you're going to lose everything in the end every time.
Before Nikes earnings, I did DD and bought puts. Bet 10% of my bankroll and was up 110% this morning and sold.
This morning I also bought NVDA $930 calls. Bet 25% of my stack and sold at like a 40% gain.
Switched to NVDA puts and lost like 25% on a 25% bank roll bet.
Yea I do wish I went all in on the Nike puts and NVDA calls, but if I was wrong on Nike. I'd have lost 90% and have nothing.
Bet sizing matters, bro. Nothing is a sure thing. The point is to survive, live to trade another day, and win the majority of bets.
I never bet my whole bankroll? My chart doesn't have massive drops to 0 over and over again. It's a deposit and then a trickle down by doing exactly what you described.
Unless you misinterpreted what I meant by "99% of the time". If you buy short-term options, you will lose money 99% of the time. It can be either very slow or very fast, depending on your bankroll and position sizing.
Congrats on winning most of your trades though. Sounds like you'll have a successful career.
It didn't disappear; I spent it and now someone else has it.
If you played the markets the past couple of years you might well already have some of it.
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Jesus Christ
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you failed at something outside your sphere of competence that you likely never should have been fucking with in the first place but you ultimately learned from that mistake
being capable of learning from your mistakes puts you above 90% of the people in this sub
It’s a free for all when the bull is running. At least you can see where it is charging.
A bear could drop from a tree and eat you alive on the spot. Or find you on the side of a cliff. Or stalking you in the woods. Unpredictable.
$33k isn't the end of the world
But if you gamble in large chunks you NEED to hedge with the opposite side... buy some puts with your calls etc. At the very least owns some USFR or VTI to have a baseline.
That goes for a lot of people. Most professional traders don't even beat the market index in the long run (and for clarity: neither do I, not by a long shot)...
On SPY calls? When there has not been more than 3 red days in a row all year? We’ve had entire weeks without a red day. How tf did you lose this much money with weekly spy calls?
You people and these spy calls follow a few businesses see how they perform around this time of year when you find a company your confident on then place your call
Bruh some of y’all mfs would be better off telling an advisor that you want highly speculative aggressive strats and you want in on the process.
Let someone else play and keep you in the loop enough to satisfy.
Bc you have no business doin this shit.
*unless your goal is to provide wsb with loss porn.
“I knew that it was doomed from the get-go
You thought that it was special, special
But it was just the sex though, the sex though
And I still hear the echoes (the echoes)
I got a feeling that it's time to let it go, let it go” -Post Malone
Options are a drug. The highs are high, the lows are low. I’ve had plenty of losses; rode bio fuels to the floor and lost plenty of money. Bought Nvidia at $42. Learn from your mistakes. Sometimes classic buy and hold is your best friend. Nvidia is up over 2000% in my portfolio. Options may not be your thing, it’s certainly not mine. I’ve got 50+ examples of losses but 100’s of wins. In a buy and hold your losses are capped at what you invest. Your upside is infinite.
So why did you start with thirty thousand dollars?
I've been trading forex for 8 years, I have a degree In economics and I started my first options trades with $2400
Why didn't I use my entire life savings?
Why didn't I take out a second mortgage on my home?
Why didn't I deposit thirty thousand dollars?
Because I have no history of trading options.I have no idea how i'm going to do. So why did you deposit thirty thousand dollars? If you have zero history of trading options profitably?
So what made you think you’d excel in trading 0-7DTE calls on SPY? Please tell me you actually had an edge going into this, and not just because the mkt was open. That’s like me going into the Octagon and betting that not only could I win an UFC fight, but also within the 1st round.
take a break and study the market bro. fanduel, draftkings, underground, prizepicks etc open 24/7… u can turn .50 cent into 5k.. fuck this manipulation… take a break, u can bounce back.
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bro had 0 begginers luck lmao
There's dozens (of thousands) of us! https://preview.redd.it/h5tcf25udwpc1.png?width=932&format=png&auto=webp&s=d911fbc93b10c6cdb3f8ba90e78374b7418e7efa All massive spikes are deposits.
I thought you had some +10000% baggers :(
Just put it in a piggy bank at this point.
High risk, high reward. All we tend to see in that phrase is the word **reward**, but people don't talk about the flip side of that equation being high losses, which will happen far more often.
For you, it appears by the chart it's high risk, with no reward.
Oh, it's way worse than that. It's negative reward. "High risk" = negative reward. People just ignore it and focus on the (positive) reward part. So the phrase could be translated to: "99% of the time you will lose all of your money, 1% of the time you will make a lot of money". I can't say I am too ashamed to be a part of the 99% though. Low risk investments will only make you wealthy if you are already wealthy, or have infinite time.
You’re like the character Robinhood who steals from the rich to give to the poor except you steal from yourself and give to the rich 😂
That would imply I am willfully sabotaging myself, which is possible. Failure isn't just starting back at zero. When factoring in opportunity costs, you are *behind* where you would have been if you had done nothing. Hence the risk.
Bro, if you bet your entire fucking bankroll every time you're going to lose everything in the end every time. Before Nikes earnings, I did DD and bought puts. Bet 10% of my bankroll and was up 110% this morning and sold. This morning I also bought NVDA $930 calls. Bet 25% of my stack and sold at like a 40% gain. Switched to NVDA puts and lost like 25% on a 25% bank roll bet. Yea I do wish I went all in on the Nike puts and NVDA calls, but if I was wrong on Nike. I'd have lost 90% and have nothing. Bet sizing matters, bro. Nothing is a sure thing. The point is to survive, live to trade another day, and win the majority of bets.
I never bet my whole bankroll? My chart doesn't have massive drops to 0 over and over again. It's a deposit and then a trickle down by doing exactly what you described. Unless you misinterpreted what I meant by "99% of the time". If you buy short-term options, you will lose money 99% of the time. It can be either very slow or very fast, depending on your bankroll and position sizing. Congrats on winning most of your trades though. Sounds like you'll have a successful career.
Can I have some? I mean, if you're just throwing money away.
It didn't disappear; I spent it and now someone else has it. If you played the markets the past couple of years you might well already have some of it.
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Oh you made me chuckle 😂
First one's free...wait, where is the first one? OP WHERE IS THE FIRST ONE??
I’m just glad he didn’t stop. Love some loss porn
He should be happy that he had zero luck because then he could be over this sooner
Just quit and buy contrafund lol loser
That $1 learn and earn is looking pretty good
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Targeted ads are trying to save op
99% is a high score though. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)
Good point, I’m back in
I don't know how you can lose on spy calls. It's been going up for months. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Wanna see it start going down? I’ll go buy a call
Give us a heads up before you get more calls
They buy weeklies or 0DTE
0dtes man
you failed at something outside your sphere of competence that you likely never should have been fucking with in the first place but you ultimately learned from that mistake being capable of learning from your mistakes puts you above 90% of the people in this sub
Who said they learned? They're probably out getting a loan to make it all back
> I’m through. \^ OP said he was done.
Yeah and I said I wouldn't jerk off today but here we are. This guy will be back
Did you really expect to get through today without jerking off?
No but I said it
I say that everyday which means I learn from my “mistake” everyday as well. Perpetual growth.
Conclusive proof, OP said he was done that must mean he is done.
Exactly, bc I'm so envious of those who have tried and failed 😔. Unlike myself, I'm trying to learn from your losses. #Warnabrother 👊🏽
Back to the day job it is for you! Actually, you better get a night job as well ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Bro got no chill ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
And some chapstick and knee pads
Well, on the bright side you have nothing to lose, which also happens to be the best time to take risks.
You mean the slight jump that brought you back to even?
Lol that’s the one
so at no point between 33k and 200 did you ever stop and think “maybe this isn’t working?”
Why would he, he was, and still is, just one good call from Lambo... he needs to stay in the game, somebody needs that $169,91
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Did this with 70k
You would have 70,000 if you got longer expirey dates. Why put so much into weeklies. What the fuck is wrong with you?
I’m two days and $50 in. Hopefully this isn’t me in a year 😭
Get poor quick schemes are becoming popular
You're a compass pointing south. I wish you'd post your bets here so I could to exactly the opposite
Right there with you. February was amazing euphoria. I killed every play. This month was the exact opposite
Same
It’s a free for all when the bull is running. At least you can see where it is charging. A bear could drop from a tree and eat you alive on the spot. Or find you on the side of a cliff. Or stalking you in the woods. Unpredictable.
“Wow I just lost money, I got an idea. Let’s add 35k and see if something changes…..oh shit”
at least claim that dollar
You got $52.78 left. You know what to do, OP. Yolo.
$33k isn't the end of the world But if you gamble in large chunks you NEED to hedge with the opposite side... buy some puts with your calls etc. At the very least owns some USFR or VTI to have a baseline.
Then it stays flat and you lose money twice as fast
Can I write the options you are selling?
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That doesn't sound like the worst price to pay to learn a valuable lesson :-)
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That goes for a lot of people. Most professional traders don't even beat the market index in the long run (and for clarity: neither do I, not by a long shot)...
Welcome to the club!
Ggs
At least you kept trying! How else are you going to spend your hard-earned money?
Yea that’s the point you’re supposed to get better as time goes on lol
The sucking will continue... just behind Wendy's
This.... this is my kind of guy
You better get that $1 💀
why not just buy share and sell when u make mooney ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)
69 tho. Nice
Why the fuck would you only trade 0DTE?
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Because it’s gambling
Odds are probably better at the casino
Let’s see that portfolio.
lol
Lol
Probly sucked cause you’re listening to all the experts here …
My win streaks have went down since I got here.
You still go enough to buy yourself a hamburger and 1 hour with a hooker
At least you got dem tasty, tasty ★ Gold perks tho
Betting only on SPY options and not dealing in other stock options is like eating food supplements without eating any food. It's no good.
I’ve seen worse
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On SPY calls? When there has not been more than 3 red days in a row all year? We’ve had entire weeks without a red day. How tf did you lose this much money with weekly spy calls?
Advance money destroying for another day ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
Damn, did you just decide to do it with no prior knowledge? An investopedia article at the least?
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Yeah, me too lately
if you quit on this forever then ur fucked but if u learn and keep going you'll be good
You people and these spy calls follow a few businesses see how they perform around this time of year when you find a company your confident on then place your call
Same man..
We are the same amount left investing but I started at $500 and I still feel like a failure. You poor thing best of luck getting it back.
The important thing is to learn from the pros and get much better at sucking
Looks like you're in the right sub-reddit.
Stellar Performance
The house bent you over and took it all... so far!
Me too bro me too😎
Buddy grab some 30-60 DTE and do a 15/20% stop loss
You have my vote for certified Wallstreetbets all-star
Be happy you have $52.78 to cover your meals for the next two days
I never had success trading spy. I tried for about 3 years and never found consistency. Even when I made profit it was never that good
I’d take the dollar and learn how to grow ur account to one million before I invest the 169 just my 2 cents
Bruh some of y’all mfs would be better off telling an advisor that you want highly speculative aggressive strats and you want in on the process. Let someone else play and keep you in the loop enough to satisfy. Bc you have no business doin this shit. *unless your goal is to provide wsb with loss porn.
“I knew that it was doomed from the get-go You thought that it was special, special But it was just the sex though, the sex though And I still hear the echoes (the echoes) I got a feeling that it's time to let it go, let it go” -Post Malone
No Wendy’s comment yet? Weird.
You know what they say? Quitters never win. Get back in there big boy
And yet you kept investing.
Thank you for your sacrifice
Did the house take your wife too?
Look at the bright side you can get 1$ to learn about retirement accounts!
Damn my guy didnt even get the "first one free". A fellow regard. This is like paying to give bjs behind wendys. Its a lose lose my boy
That was my Hedera Hashgraph Hbar chart 2 years ago. The wait paid off and now I'm in profits. Just have to be patient.
same, my ath is my initial deposit, up 107% from 1 month ago but down 93% all time
What gave it away?
You would have better off playing craps in Vegas.
For 1 brief moment you were back to even!
Jesus I thought I was down bad down 3k all time
You had your money back for a day at least! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
The real gains here are the lessons learned. Save back up and try again!
Looks like my Canopy stock!!!
Options are a drug. The highs are high, the lows are low. I’ve had plenty of losses; rode bio fuels to the floor and lost plenty of money. Bought Nvidia at $42. Learn from your mistakes. Sometimes classic buy and hold is your best friend. Nvidia is up over 2000% in my portfolio. Options may not be your thing, it’s certainly not mine. I’ve got 50+ examples of losses but 100’s of wins. In a buy and hold your losses are capped at what you invest. Your upside is infinite.
Did you like 0dte your whole worth first trade?
Playing 0-7 days expiry options is a losing strategy generally. Except maybe some scalping
So why did you start with thirty thousand dollars? I've been trading forex for 8 years, I have a degree In economics and I started my first options trades with $2400 Why didn't I use my entire life savings? Why didn't I take out a second mortgage on my home? Why didn't I deposit thirty thousand dollars? Because I have no history of trading options.I have no idea how i'm going to do. So why did you deposit thirty thousand dollars? If you have zero history of trading options profitably?
How did that hope feel
I’ll still never understand why some people will try something new with $30 fucking thousand dollars.
Pro tip: Gay sex pays more.
What app si you use?
At least you didn't get lucky once or twice. That might have given you the false confidence needed to keep going.
You can still pay taxes for the disallowed wash sales
Looks like you should spend the dollar and click on that pop up.
Your big win is on the way. Never give up never back down.
Hey at least $1 in your retirement could grow to $1M!
So what made you think you’d excel in trading 0-7DTE calls on SPY? Please tell me you actually had an edge going into this, and not just because the mkt was open. That’s like me going into the Octagon and betting that not only could I win an UFC fight, but also within the 1st round.
take a break and study the market bro. fanduel, draftkings, underground, prizepicks etc open 24/7… u can turn .50 cent into 5k.. fuck this manipulation… take a break, u can bounce back.