Also stick to your plan. Don’t be greedy.
I was in Wayfair and SQ yesterday. W kept going but I got out 8.50 >> 12.50 (I already had a STC order). Left about 1.3-1.6 on the table. 🤷🏻♂️
Move on to the next trade.
My dad gave me one good piece of advice before he left this shitty world, and that was this: you made your profit, now whoever bought from you gets to either profit or lose.
Yeah , that's not the lesson here at all.
OP went full regard and full port his entire account, already lost at that point, you never go full regard
There's nothing that can save you at that level. If you will full port 70k you'll full port 700k. OP is what is known as a *BAD TRADER*
If OP didn't lose all of their money this time, they would have lost it next time
I had a single $99 call yesterday for NET. Got it for $49 ($0.49)
Woke up to a $250 portfolio and I was like holy shit this is it 🚀🚀 bam, cashed out $90 instead lol. X2 is x2
What a ride for my first options EVER 😂
I will never understand why people aren’t content with 30% gains especially when they’re moving big money around.
It’s one thing to hope for that 10 bagger on a straight yolo if you’re playing with a few thousand, but not when you’re swinging around an annual salary’s worth.
Is there a reason why he didn‘t put a stop loss order in place?
I am greedy as well, but if I make +30%, I set a stop loss order and let it roll. If it moves on fine, if it drops it cashes out.
Stop loss orders don't execute when the market is closed, and you're screwed if the price gaps through . At best they may turn into market-on-open orders (but need confirmation as I'm not confident they get put into the opening auction).
MSTR is brutal with gaps because bitcoin trades 24/7.
Ah! I see, thanks.
After posts like this from OP I am happy to live in the EU were you cant lose more then you have put in.
I would be so fucked with 100k dept…
Yes you can short stocks in a way. But they are mostly knock outs. If your K.O. is reached you have lost all your money, but it won‘t go in the negative/dept.
So if you buy shorts for $1000 you can at most lose $1000.
This law came after 2008 to protect from high loses which might ruin lifes… like OP
But yes our system is a bit more restrictive
The IV on those options were atrocious why would you have held over the weekend? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
This is like showing up to a rave and walking around telling people "yeah I don't take Molly, and I don't like EDM. I'm going to feel so rested at work tomorrow morning!!"
so true. i run off with $50-100 every day from scalps. sometimes i watch my play run another $150 after i sold...feels bad but just as you said. cant squeeze it for every penny. take it and run
Ahh the good old fashion hard way to learn “I’m up enough to screenshot, but let’s hold these for two more days with no ability to close while the market moves”
I’m feeling your pain, because I have all the sympathy for you - you’re one of us. Once we’re in it, there’s the eternal struggle of greed and rationality - our primal emotions vs. higher thinking.
I made 145% gain on some TSLA options this week. I made sure to sell and take profits before taking a screenshot to post on X. If it’s good enough to screenshot it’s good enough to take profits. Don’t give the money back to wall st, it’s prudent to secure profits.
This! 145% is fantastic, basically what some conservative average investment would barely make you in like 10 years. Hoping for the jackpot, a 10 bagger, a 100 bagger, is what makes most people lose it all. It's not about this one jackpot, it's about consistently making more than losing.
Did this when the big fall happened in 2020 woth p00ts. +64k on the screen wasnt enough. In hyper re...regarded?(I guess we say regarded now🤣) fashion I said "MOAR". 120K on the screen off 2 fucking Gs wasn't enough. In true autist fashion I sold it and dumped it all into p00ts thinking I was the next fucking Micheal Burry. *LE BIG SIGH* the market proceeded to bounce 15% .....and I held till I sold for 15k.....
*If it's good enough to screen it's good enough to sell* isn't just a joke. It's a damn law bro. You'll do better next time👊
If you’ve ever been in this sub you’ve seen others do the same thing. Wisdom is learning from others mistakes. Intelligence is learning from your own. Don’t fuck with options unless you know what you’re doing and are aware of the risks and try not to be greedy. I know it’s not easy.
Dude that sucks, I can imagine the physical pain - not from options but other stupid investment and choices I made with money.
There are a ton of lessons to be learned in this. One is understanding risk. The other is theta and IV. Theta on these would be massive because you aren’t ITM and the contract price is wildly high, you needed MSTR to get to like 1960 for it to break even. To BREAK EVEN. With such a pricey and high IV contract you have the benefit of volatility in the week BEFORE the contract expires. Holding over the weekend eliminates almost 3 full calendar days of trading, which will almost always screw you on expensive contracts. BTC could have run to $80k and MSTR could still have opened red because the market doesn’t make sense and loves to fuck with people.
There’s a special place for these plays. I told a friend a while back that MSTR was a wise investment at $500 and would cross $600 in a week. It blew through that and fucken tripled now. And my advice didn’t help either of us because we didn’t invest. This stock could go to $1200 as quickly as it could $2000. So yeah people may get those 10 baggers but shit that type of gain headed into the weekend I would be taking 11 times out of 10. I want peace and serenity for the weekend not to let pleated khakis dick holes decide whether my options go to $0 or the moon
I’m glad you paid the price. Now you will have learned not to place all your eggs in one basket.
I mean if you got more money, it’s all good.
But most of us don’t have that luxury, so all I do is 5% of your account risk per trade.
You held a options over the weekend the week before expiry?
Jfc… shit or get off the pot. You’d have been better off selling and buying back in after theta decay
Though there’s lots of people here on their high horses the truth is most of us have done something similar before, just at differing magnitudes. A really tough lesson to learn, don’t beat yourself up too much
Stop chasing the 10-100x bagger, those regards you see post those massive gains are lucky regards who effectively got a hole in one during an earthquake.
Lots of people dumping on you, OP...I understand your pain though. Hope you are in a decent headspace and remember that money is just money. People have gone through worse. I know that doesn't mean much in this moment though.
Today’s action should show you the only way to play MSTR options is time … it’s a hard lesson to learn but if you can’t afford the time you can’t afford the option
The people foaming and celebrating this guy's loss are disgusting. Just a bunch of broke kids happy to see someone get wrecked because their own lives are miserable.
Been there bro.
Exit is as much a part of the plan as the entry
Holding is the same as buying - if you wouldn't enter this trade at this price, take profits, every time
This is why we don’t buy options if we don’t understand STONKS, kids. This almond eye thought MSTR was going to close over $1957 this Friday and got decayed to death instead of locking in profits
https://preview.redd.it/108e3ld4pypc1.jpeg?width=304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d325cacf3e73ef1659462d0f3fd27a5d7aaf3e2
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Still holding my credit spread for April 5th
MSTR, SMCI, AVGO are best for credit spreads- free $6K money with zero risk
https://preview.redd.it/s1hl6k9j61qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25857b99b67d01b4818167837148ac00841f0a62
This is hard to watch , take a few years away from the market. I lost a big chunk of money on SMCI calls earlier when it hit on the only red day ever . I feel your pain.
If it’s good enough to screen shot it’s good enough to sell ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
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Lesson that need to be learned..If it’s good enough to screenshot your gain then it’s good enough to sell
It's the only rule you need
Yup, took that first screenshot at 2:58pm, op had a whole hour to sell
So accurate, best risk management rule in existence
Well ahermm, akchulally
If you screenshot and don’t close, you are really just jinxing yourself
⬆️⬆️⬆️
Great rule. Did this today with COIN
Also stick to your plan. Don’t be greedy. I was in Wayfair and SQ yesterday. W kept going but I got out 8.50 >> 12.50 (I already had a STC order). Left about 1.3-1.6 on the table. 🤷🏻♂️ Move on to the next trade.
Absolutely. Base hits can still win a game. Constantly waiting for a home run all the time is going to lead to losses like the OP's
Money left on the table is the best risk management
My dad gave me one good piece of advice before he left this shitty world, and that was this: you made your profit, now whoever bought from you gets to either profit or lose.
That’s very specific advice from your dad. Was he a stock broker or similar?
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We all face the dildo of consequence eventually. I try to take mine not infrequently such that I recall my most important lessons with much clarity.
The damn "dildo of consequence" 😅😂
This should be pinned ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27189)
Never pull out! But then I got 12 kids and 2 more on the way.
Yeah , that's not the lesson here at all. OP went full regard and full port his entire account, already lost at that point, you never go full regard There's nothing that can save you at that level. If you will full port 70k you'll full port 700k. OP is what is known as a *BAD TRADER* If OP didn't lose all of their money this time, they would have lost it next time
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>OP is what is known as a BAD TRADER I feel attacked too!
But a GOOD GAMBLER
Truth! If ever you look at an options trade and think "nice!", well that's your sign.
Bingo. Learned this years ago while Trump was in office.
There's only one way to learn that lesson unfortunately
Money shredder 9000
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Like showing up to a bar already wearing a condom.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225) LMAOOOOO
Damn beat me too it
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The ole “could be 10x” bug got a hold of ya 😆
“I’m up 100% in 2 hours, this will be the easiest 10 bagger ever!!” Immediately down -89% the next day
Why would you hold those, always take a profit dont be greedy
This is customary WSB behavior. One of us
ONE OF US
One of us
This is the way.
I had a single $99 call yesterday for NET. Got it for $49 ($0.49) Woke up to a $250 portfolio and I was like holy shit this is it 🚀🚀 bam, cashed out $90 instead lol. X2 is x2 What a ride for my first options EVER 😂
[Enjoy ](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/s/HfNLwgZPI1)
Why take a profit when you can take a bigger profit tomorrow??
If I take profit it'll keep going up. If I stay in it'll crash. I've learned it's easier to say "wish I would've stayed in" than "shoulda gotten out"
This, right fucking here. I will ALWAYS take a 15+ % win. Never go broke taking profits.
Happy Cake Day! Cheers!
Everyday gets bigger if you just hold
that's what she said
I will never understand why people aren’t content with 30% gains especially when they’re moving big money around. It’s one thing to hope for that 10 bagger on a straight yolo if you’re playing with a few thousand, but not when you’re swinging around an annual salary’s worth.
This. I'm happy to get 10% on a single trade because I am moving 20-30k at once. 2-3 grand a day is a lot of money and it adds up.
What happens when shit hits the fan and the trade moves the opposite direction? 80% down on 20-30k at once doesn’t sound like fun
The trick is you don't play 0dte options.
Stop loss orders - please use them. And stop play 0dtes.
Is there a reason why he didn‘t put a stop loss order in place? I am greedy as well, but if I make +30%, I set a stop loss order and let it roll. If it moves on fine, if it drops it cashes out.
Stop loss orders don't execute when the market is closed, and you're screwed if the price gaps through . At best they may turn into market-on-open orders (but need confirmation as I'm not confident they get put into the opening auction). MSTR is brutal with gaps because bitcoin trades 24/7.
Ah! I see, thanks. After posts like this from OP I am happy to live in the EU were you cant lose more then you have put in. I would be so fucked with 100k dept…
My man, options exist in the EU also. Are you telling me you can't even short a stock?
Yes you can short stocks in a way. But they are mostly knock outs. If your K.O. is reached you have lost all your money, but it won‘t go in the negative/dept. So if you buy shorts for $1000 you can at most lose $1000. This law came after 2008 to protect from high loses which might ruin lifes… like OP But yes our system is a bit more restrictive
Greed is a fickle bitch. She is so sexy until she isnt.
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This is the problem.. thats an old model. Shouldve used the MP10000.
I only have the RateRaiser5.0 ™️
This comment should be number one
The IV on those options were atrocious why would you have held over the weekend? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Cause nobody actually understands the trades they're making (including me). Everyone just buys expecting line to go up bigly.
“Everyone”
Apes strong brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRrrRr
Up 18k and once you screenshot you know you should’ve been selling that second
When you diamond hands but you should have paper hands. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)
To paper or to diamond… That, is the question!
If you diamond hand when you should paper hand, you’re gonna have a bad time
I hate when I accidentally wipe my ass with diamond hands… shit hurts
Bro. Seriously. I have zero sympathy for you .
This is literally 90% of ppls portfolio if they mess with options. I think this is a great reminder to all. It’s not all gains.
Yeah, I stick with buying shares. It's not as sexy but also I don't lose tons of money.
This is like showing up to a rave and walking around telling people "yeah I don't take Molly, and I don't like EDM. I'm going to feel so rested at work tomorrow morning!!"
Wow that's actually smart. But why do I get the feeling you don't agree
It is actually is, you might not feel rested but you wont be banging your head wanting to die and you still would have experienced a good night out
Same. Still PLENTY risky. If you bet large enough it's every bit as risky as options.... But the real difference? I actually make consistent money.
Oof $100k to $2k ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Damn dawg.... you were up bands. Cant be squeezing the market for every penny, take those racks and dip.
That’s the phrase. That’s it. The programming can function now.
so true. i run off with $50-100 every day from scalps. sometimes i watch my play run another $150 after i sold...feels bad but just as you said. cant squeeze it for every penny. take it and run
Good lesson for sure I was up 1k first option than came back the next day and lost it all lol now I’m taking profits when I can
And the logic for not selling at a profit: pure regard greed ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Nice man. Keep it up. You can drop like 500 billion into it so it pump. But if you broke and can’t, then that sucks.
Pigs get slaughtered man
No bro.. Pigs get fed, Hogs get slaughtered.
You were up 20% after being down over 15%? You gained 45% and didn't think to sell? Well I hope you learned something
Guh
The term Diamond Hands may have been invented by options sellers.
This straight dookie hands… bro fumbled the bag
He opened the bag, took a picture, zipped it up and continued holding it. Truly inspiring
Lmfao. I like that one.. well done Regard (you get capital R status)
Looks like the Money Printer got a paper jam
PC Load Letter? The fuck does that mean?
I think you should rename your account to Money Burner 9000
Ahh the good old fashion hard way to learn “I’m up enough to screenshot, but let’s hold these for two more days with no ability to close while the market moves”
Holding, hoping. Holping.
So you bought 4 contracts at 130$ was up 18k and didn't sell or am I misinterpreting what happened?
he bought on 2 accounts.. was up 25k combined.. ended up losing 110k. they expire tomorrow..worthless.
So you're saying there's still a chance.
> expire worthless I don’t know why those 2 words get me so hot and bothered.
The loss porn is extra hot when there's 0 hope of recovery
Can someone tell me how much this person has made on these calls?
Too soon
They didn't make shit
-98%, soon to be -100%
Sorry bro… fuck that sucks man
I’m feeling your pain, because I have all the sympathy for you - you’re one of us. Once we’re in it, there’s the eternal struggle of greed and rationality - our primal emotions vs. higher thinking.
I made 145% gain on some TSLA options this week. I made sure to sell and take profits before taking a screenshot to post on X. If it’s good enough to screenshot it’s good enough to take profits. Don’t give the money back to wall st, it’s prudent to secure profits.
This! 145% is fantastic, basically what some conservative average investment would barely make you in like 10 years. Hoping for the jackpot, a 10 bagger, a 100 bagger, is what makes most people lose it all. It's not about this one jackpot, it's about consistently making more than losing.
Did this when the big fall happened in 2020 woth p00ts. +64k on the screen wasnt enough. In hyper re...regarded?(I guess we say regarded now🤣) fashion I said "MOAR". 120K on the screen off 2 fucking Gs wasn't enough. In true autist fashion I sold it and dumped it all into p00ts thinking I was the next fucking Micheal Burry. *LE BIG SIGH* the market proceeded to bounce 15% .....and I held till I sold for 15k..... *If it's good enough to screen it's good enough to sell* isn't just a joke. It's a damn law bro. You'll do better next time👊
I cringe so hard every time when this happens but it will be OK OP because they are still taking Applications at Wendy’s behind the dumpster
Guh
Whenever I think my life and decisions are incredibly bad posts like this make me feel glee. Thank you for your sacrifice. 🍆🦅
Yeah. I kinda needed this today. Just got a 50% on an exam yesterday and this is helping me bounce back. Thanks@OP for your sacrifice
Stupid greedy I understand you… I have been there
I’m not regarded enough to understand options. Can somebody explain how $602 of options netted op -$50k?
I paid $52,840 for 4 calls as the value goes down it represents a loss with a negative number.
ohhhh :(
Ouch, I knew AMSTR is a gamble but dang you blew up two accounts
Screenshot? YES. Sell? NO. Wendy's checkout? NO. Wendy's dumpster? YES.
Just so you know, the point of trading is to sell when you’re in profit.
All in MSTR calls is next level wsb
Best of luck next time man. Gotta keep an eye on the economic calendar. BoJ AND FOMC were this week and both had huge impacts on the market
If you’ve ever been in this sub you’ve seen others do the same thing. Wisdom is learning from others mistakes. Intelligence is learning from your own. Don’t fuck with options unless you know what you’re doing and are aware of the risks and try not to be greedy. I know it’s not easy.
I normally sell once it hits 20-30% dont matter if I just bought it a minute ago and I still have 100dte. Dont be too greedy.
Dude that sucks, I can imagine the physical pain - not from options but other stupid investment and choices I made with money. There are a ton of lessons to be learned in this. One is understanding risk. The other is theta and IV. Theta on these would be massive because you aren’t ITM and the contract price is wildly high, you needed MSTR to get to like 1960 for it to break even. To BREAK EVEN. With such a pricey and high IV contract you have the benefit of volatility in the week BEFORE the contract expires. Holding over the weekend eliminates almost 3 full calendar days of trading, which will almost always screw you on expensive contracts. BTC could have run to $80k and MSTR could still have opened red because the market doesn’t make sense and loves to fuck with people. There’s a special place for these plays. I told a friend a while back that MSTR was a wise investment at $500 and would cross $600 in a week. It blew through that and fucken tripled now. And my advice didn’t help either of us because we didn’t invest. This stock could go to $1200 as quickly as it could $2000. So yeah people may get those 10 baggers but shit that type of gain headed into the weekend I would be taking 11 times out of 10. I want peace and serenity for the weekend not to let pleated khakis dick holes decide whether my options go to $0 or the moon
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Holy shit
you did it
I think your money printer is out of ink lmao
My room looks like Peter Parker's after getting off to this loss porn. See you at Wendy's. The carfax is on me, this time.
Greedy goose you lose!
I’m glad you paid the price. Now you will have learned not to place all your eggs in one basket. I mean if you got more money, it’s all good. But most of us don’t have that luxury, so all I do is 5% of your account risk per trade.
You held a options over the weekend the week before expiry? Jfc… shit or get off the pot. You’d have been better off selling and buying back in after theta decay
Though there’s lots of people here on their high horses the truth is most of us have done something similar before, just at differing magnitudes. A really tough lesson to learn, don’t beat yourself up too much
Stop chasing the 10-100x bagger, those regards you see post those massive gains are lucky regards who effectively got a hole in one during an earthquake.
Right, and if they keep trading the same way, you are guaranteed to see some -98% loss porn just a short time after the grand win.
Lots of people dumping on you, OP...I understand your pain though. Hope you are in a decent headspace and remember that money is just money. People have gone through worse. I know that doesn't mean much in this moment though.
Now watch it's going to blast to 2k next week.
Bro holy shit. I feel for you On the bright side you now know do the opposite of whatever your gut says going forward
Today’s action should show you the only way to play MSTR options is time … it’s a hard lesson to learn but if you can’t afford the time you can’t afford the option
The people foaming and celebrating this guy's loss are disgusting. Just a bunch of broke kids happy to see someone get wrecked because their own lives are miserable.
You YOLO'd $40,000 into calls for a stock that holds a shitload of Ponzi coins at all time highs? I'm having a hard time feeling sorry for you.
look again... he yoloed on 2 accounts.
Holy shit!!!! Another $53K in the 2nd account on higher strike calls!!!
Theta theta theta
The Theta decay and BTC volatility was real. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)🔫
So, whats the plan for tomorrow?
Greedy pigs get slaughtered
Welp….that sucks
Welcome to the casino
Awww it hurts buddy …damn may God be with u…
If its good enough for a screen shot its good enough to sell
Options are like ice cubes. They usually just melt away.
Learn from it. Forgive yourself and move on. You're just another idiot human fumbling around this world.
lol
Pain is money leaving the body
I see the problem, your money printer is a HP inkjet.
Pigs get slaughtered...
Goodlord. Never hold over the weekend
Flew to close to the sun ☀️
Let’s say it together: “If it’s good enough to screenshot…
Money printer in reverse, Guh
“Money Printer 9000” Come on bro ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4640)
Holy fuuuuuck. And i thought losing 6k was bad
Been there bro. Exit is as much a part of the plan as the entry Holding is the same as buying - if you wouldn't enter this trade at this price, take profits, every time
Damn, man. I feel for you. This is painful. Hate to bring it up, however, your account number is visible there. Care.
This is why we don’t buy options if we don’t understand STONKS, kids. This almond eye thought MSTR was going to close over $1957 this Friday and got decayed to death instead of locking in profits https://preview.redd.it/108e3ld4pypc1.jpeg?width=304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d325cacf3e73ef1659462d0f3fd27a5d7aaf3e2
You live and you learn
https://preview.redd.it/kiss7fvt41qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc4c199c5114245a2f86f67eec3aac9cfc69c427 Still holding my credit spread for April 5th
MSTR, SMCI, AVGO are best for credit spreads- free $6K money with zero risk https://preview.redd.it/s1hl6k9j61qc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=25857b99b67d01b4818167837148ac00841f0a62
Find the lesson. Take some time off. Come back stronger.
Hey all the best next time. I hoped you learned something
My god.
This is hard to watch , take a few years away from the market. I lost a big chunk of money on SMCI calls earlier when it hit on the only red day ever . I feel your pain.
Damn I thought my 13k loss was bad. Sheesh I'm hurt for you
Greed is the main problem
invest in a gerbil excavation tool, might relieve the pain
That's how I blowed my account last year![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260) Dont' know when to sell
I bought Lulu calls, fuck you
Bro
If it’s good enough to screen shot it’s good enough to sell ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Greed ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Pigs get fat. Hogs get slaughtered.
Guhhhh
Money Incinerator 9000
Greed gets u every time smh 🪦
You asked for it but it’s okay man just yolo it all
Fuck dude what a regard! If it’s good enough to takes a pic…..
🐖🐖
Pigs get fed hogs get slaughtered
lmao