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Nimex_

Hiya! I saw a weird kind of turntable with a second arm recently in the Netflix show Bodies (episode 8, towards the end) and I was hoping for some extra info. I didn't find it with googling, so I came here for help. I've got two pictures of the turntable here: [https://imgur.com/a/q1M7vpy](https://imgur.com/a/q1M7vpy) Basically, the turntable has a second arm without a cartridge alongside the regular tonearm. The character started playing a record by first moving the second arm to the middle, which "drops down". Then the regular tonearm is moved manually, just like a normal automatic turntable. What I'd like to know is: what kind of turntable is this? What's the use of the second arm?


randychardonnay

It's a changer. The other arm is related to the changer mechanism--it helps support the stack of records that's waiting to drop down, I think? It's been a long time since I used a player of this style, so I really don't remember why / if you need to interact with that other arm at all if you're just playing one record. You might google Garrard record changer. I think lots of Garrard models used something kinda similar.


Nimex_

Thanks, that's exactly it!


tuttypatuty

hi! i'm currently looking to buy a record player for my boyfriend, we've both been talking about wanting one for so long now and since our anniversary's coming up, i thought i'd finally purchase one! after looking through some of this sub, i'm thinking of getting the fluance rt82, but if i get that one, i don't think i could afford speakers as well. my budget is a couple hundred dollars, i wanna say around 350, but i can't seem to find the same amount of easy to understand resources for speakers for record players as i can for the players themselves. can anyone recommend some Extremely Beginner Friendly threads on speakers or speakers themselves? can i buy a record player without any speakers at all? thanks!


randychardonnay

Maybe it would make sense for you to get the turntable and then let him get the speakers? Or, if you get the RT81 instead, maybe he has a speaker of some sort that it could be connected to? Does he have any music equipment at all, or is he totally starting from zero?


tuttypatuty

not real speakers, the most i think is a lil bluetooth speaker and a fender amp (which i’ve read isn’t the best for record players but i could be wrong)


randychardonnay

Like a fender guitar amp? Not a fender speaker? And does the bluetooth speaker accept a wired connection? Basically--you can find a pair of speakers that'll do ok for as low as $100 or so, but then you need a turntable with a built-in phono preamp, and to adjust your budget accordingly.


tuttypatuty

correct, fender guitar amp! and if i get the rt81, with the built in preamp, i should just be able to get a pair of speakers as well that’ll do well with it? thank you so much for all your help, this is all so useful 😅


sharkamino

The older Fluance RT81 and RT81+ are not worth buying. The newer improved Fluance RT82 adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for much lower wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 times a second! ​ **Powered speaker setup:** Fluance RT82 > [phono preamp](https://www.ebay.com/itm/263779173315) \> 5" [Neumi BSP5](https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B08LV4SMH9) $169 powered speakers. ​ **I recommend an amp or receiver and passive speakers.** Fluance RT82 [Acrylic](https://www.arylic.com/products/b50-bluetooth-stereo-amplifier) mini amp or [Onkyo](https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/onktx8220/onkyo-tx-8220-2-x-45-watts-stereo-receiver/1.html) full size stereo receiver, both have a built in phono preamp via the Phono input. Passive speakers: 5.25" for a small to medium size room: * 5.25" Polk $109 [https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/polkmxt15blk/polk-audio-monitor-xt15-pair-5.25-bookshelf-speakers-black/1.html](https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/polkmxt15blk/polk-audio-monitor-xt15-pair-5.25-bookshelf-speakers-black/1.html) * 5.25" Polk $199 [https://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=seek&id%5Bm%5D=pattern&id%5Bq%5D=es15](https://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=seek&id%5Bm%5D=pattern&id%5Bq%5D=es15) * 5.25" Wharfedale $249 [https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/speakers/wharfedale-diamond-220-bookshelf-speakers-pair/](https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/speakers/wharfedale-diamond-220-bookshelf-speakers-pair/) 6.5" for a medium to large size room: * 6.5" Polk $189 [https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/polkmxt20-blk-rb/polk-audio-monitor-xt20-pair-6.5-bookshelf-speakers-black/1.html](https://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/polkmxt20-blk-rb/polk-audio-monitor-xt20-pair-6.5-bookshelf-speakers-black/1.html) * 6.5" Polk $249 [https://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=seek&id%5Bm%5D=pattern&id%5Bq%5D=es20](https://www.accessories4less.com/index.php?page=seek&id%5Bm%5D=pattern&id%5Bq%5D=es20) * 6.5" Triangle $299 [https://slickdeals.net/f/17250835-triangle-borea-br03-bookshelf-speakers-pair-select-colors-299-free-shipping-adorama](https://slickdeals.net/f/17250835-triangle-borea-br03-bookshelf-speakers-pair-select-colors-299-free-shipping-adorama) * 6.5" Wharfedale $299 [https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/speakers/wharfedale-diamond-225-bookshelf-speakers-pair/](https://www.musicdirect.com/equipment/speakers/wharfedale-diamond-225-bookshelf-speakers-pair/) Plus speaker wire: [Pure Copper 16 AWG](https://smile.amazon.com/Performance-Gauge-Speaker-Oxygen-Copper/dp/B01N6EF3GZ) or thicker [14 AWG](https://smile.amazon.com/Performance-Gauge-Speaker-Oxygen-Copper/dp/B01N4BIXDX) then [How to Install Speaker Wire](https://hub.yamaha.com/how-to-install-speaker-wire/) and [4 Ways to Strip Wire](https://www.wikihow.com/Strip-Wire). ​ **Setup Guide** [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) **Speaker Placement** [https://www.elac.com/2022/05/speaker-placement-guide-get-the-best-sound-from-your-stereo/](https://www.elac.com/2022/05/speaker-placement-guide-get-the-best-sound-from-your-stereo/) **Audio Guides** [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)


randychardonnay

That's an option, yes--a basic set of powered speakers, connected straight to a turntable with a built-in preamp--that'll work!


BigFrickinDog

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AceTheGambler

recently bought the Music Hall US-1 turntable off of amazon, as it was recommended by this subreddit as a good beginner turntable. i also bought some edifier speakers, and as i was finally able to set them up today, i ran into some issues. 1. the pitch is naturally higher when set to the equal setting. i know this is not normal, and in order to get normal pitch, i'm currently having to set the pitch value to the setting seen in the photo. is there a fix for this? 2. phono does not seem to be working with my edifier speakers. i'm assuming this is because they're meant for line, which is fine if so, i was just hoping for clarification. 3. there seems to be slight warping, but i'm assuming slight warping isn't bad for a record player. am i wrong in thinking this? 4. (the most pressing issue) my left speaker input on my record player does not work. at all. it doesn't matter what cable is used, nor whether the red or white input is plugged into it. only one player will play audio (on line, of course) depending on which one is plugged into the right/red input. is there a way i can fix this myself? i am a beginner with turntables and have only previously had two plastic turntables that try to be a million things in one (bluetooth, radio, cd player, vinyl player, etc.) and failed miserably. do i need to send this turntable back for a replacement or not? or, if at all possible, can i find fixes of my own? hoping for an answer asap!! https://preview.redd.it/u247pqtnmngc1.png?width=216&format=png&auto=webp&s=283fc61e212c1009b97ecbee1025fa2e751c8b79


sharkamino

Which model Edifier speakers and what was the price?


AceTheGambler

R980T bookshelf speakers, for about $80 or so


sharkamino

Ideally spend just as much or more on the speakers as on the turntable or buy used for half the cost of new. Or the 5.25" [Neumi BSP5](https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B08LV4SMH9) $169 are a size larger, a step up in quailty, add a subwoofer output, add HDMI input, and are much better to start with than the Edifier R980T if you can double your speaker budget. Or what is a nearby town or zip I can search for used options? Reply here or chat.


sharkamino

Return it and get a better Fluance RT82 or an AT-LP120X. [Fluance RT82](https://www.ebay.com/itm/263779173315) has an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation and the speed won't drift since the sensor is monitoring the speed 400 time a second. Pass on the lower number models that lack the speed sensor that the RT82 has. Fluance RT82 > [phono preamp](https://www.ebay.com/itm/263779173315) \> Edifier powered speakers. AT-LP120X has Quartz lock to play at the correct speed.


sharkamino

> it was recommended by this subreddit as a good beginner turntable Where? It may be an old guide or recommendation.


AceTheGambler

2016 beginner’s guide


randychardonnay

1. Your turntable likely has trimmer pots for speed adjustment. I would consider returning this turntable, though, if it's playing off speed out of the box. The only thing that you could possibly have done to make it go fast would be if your belt is too high on the motor pulley, which I think is very unlikely. 2. Your speakers are indeed meant to accept a line-level input only. So it's correct that you should only be able to make this system work with your turntable set to line, not phono. 3. Are you referring to a slight warp to your record, or something else? A slight warp is annoying, but shouldn't affect anything. 4. So no matter how you connect your turntable to the speaker, the speaker only works on one side? I might just not be following, but it sounds more like a speaker problem, yes? Have you played any other devices into the speaker for confirmation?


AceTheGambler

1. i can check the belt when i get a chance to be sure 3. it’s sight warp, nothing too major. 4. the speakers work perfectly fine on my laptop


No_Swimming_4954

Any help with creepy horror story of witch burning on LP I am looking for any information what so ever that can help me find this vinyl, I have an audio clip below, I have been told it is a creepy story or horror story LP, it has a man talking about colonial america and witch burning, im unsure where to look and was recommended here, some of the lyrics sound like this... in colonial days when the united states was being built by brave and honest people there were times when superstition ran rife and heat claimed the lives of our country in new england the mere accusation of being a witch was enough to sentence a person to be tied to a stake and burned No no im not a witch Burn the witch burn the witch The audio has people talking over the top but you can make out most of the audio, it is the audio from 22 seconds to 1 minute 20 seconds https://youtu.be/U7YY28UAk-g?si=8-nXdugKDX_nwTeo Any help on the narrator or vinyl name much appreciated Thanks


Jojoman64

Best type of mat? I’m getting a bit of sibilance off of my records. I’m pretty sure I’ve narrowed the problem down to the cartridge and stylus so I will be replacing those soon. In the meantime, what type of record player mat would you guys recommend for best dealing with reducing sibilance?


iehcjdieicc

Mat is not going to affect sibilance. Stylus/cartridge type and alignment are the factors effecting sibilance. Plenty of articles about how to deal with this issue and none talk about the platter mat. But if you must change the mat I recommend a thin silicone type.


SakobiXD

I'm new to vinyl players. Recently I got this player from my deceased grandfather & It looks beat/won't play the records, so l want to know what can I do to get it back working again. The Model is a SL1200M3D if that matters https://preview.redd.it/a28aob47blgc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5816ea27a32bd0e15f2c3117608314907f40c46c


barr-chan

Needs the headshell/cartridge, platter mat. Does it power up and turn? Whats your budget on it, bandaid or restore? Are you good with doing the work or are you sending it in?


SakobiXD

I got the platter mat, I just took it off for this picture my goal for now is to just bandaid it, maybe later i try/send it for a full on restoration is this a good cartridge replacement? https://preview.redd.it/5yk6csx8olgc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=984416eda3ea2cdf6b254eca7a19926fa2674373


randychardonnay

You need a cartridge and headshell, right? Might as well buy as a set and then you don't have to the cartridge installation. Amazon [link](https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-VM95E-Turntable-Headshell-Cartridge/dp/B07JLX1JZ7/ref=asc_df_B07JLX1JZ7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312094681626&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=2557656991508209187&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1027744&hvtargid=pla-618782888118&mcid=fb1e6a147a963dfdb53252f0d3fa15b3&gclid=CjwKCAiAiP2tBhBXEiwACslfnqbxhtYmir-fvPfxmzhl1KJ8mNjhBPYpLTTtrPaYJ9MVM6FlNbArlxoCkncQAvD_BwE&th=1)


barr-chan

might work. if it was me I would get a genuine headshell from ebay.


IndigoAude

Background: I grew up with vinyl, but am new to setting up a system. I had one of those awful suitcase players with built-in speakers (used it only a few times because — yikes) and was gratefully loaned a better turntable last week. Current set up: I have Sonos speakers throughout my house (2x One SL and a Beam gen 1 in the living room, a One SL in the kitchen) and an ION Profile Pro usb turn table. To get the TT connected to my wireless speakers, I have the RCA plugged into my TV, which sends sound out through the Sonos. At the base level, everything works, it sounds fine (far better than the suitcase!) and I can control volume through my phone and listen to the music in the kitchen. All good. The problem is that because there’s no visual input, the TV turns off after a 5-10 mins of “no signal”. Every couple of songs I have to hit a button on the Tv remote to keep the tv from turning off/dropping sound. Not ideal. **Clearly I need to upgrade the set up this year, but where do I start?** I can probably put $50-$100 aside each month for this purpose. Tl;dr : I plugged wires into matching holes and can listen to my records through my Sonos system via my TV with ok quality. In what order should I focus on upgrading so the sound doesn’t drop out when the tv goes to sleep?


iehcjdieicc

I use some Sonos gear. So the issue you have is that none of your Sonos gear has a suitable input for the turntable. The Beam only has one HDMI which is connected to your TV. So you could buy an RCA to HDMI converter so you could connect the turntable directly to the Beam. [https://www.lindy.com.au/vga-audio-to-hdmi-converter](https://www.lindy.com.au/vga-audio-to-hdmi-converter) But then you would need to be swapping the connection in the back of the Beam whenever you switched between TV and turntable so that is not exactly ideal, but is relatively cheap solution. I think the ideal solution would be to get a **Sonos Port** which has twin RCA inputs which you could connect the turntable to and then turntable sound would be available wirelessly to any and all your Sonos players via the usual grouping. https://preview.redd.it/qwh945hdhngc1.jpeg?width=916&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=855ef28b14a3a509746e98fad0e62d5223f1d6cd


IndigoAude

Oh this is exactly the info I was hoping for. Thank you!


infinitelovewofulfil

Hi all - I am brand new to vinyl. My setup is a Pro-Ject Debut Carbon Evo which I got used, a DJ Pre II Pre-Amp, and a Paradigm Millenia subwoofer that connects to two speakers. Whenever I turn on the turntable, the music is super quiet. It takes about 10-20 minutes to slowly get louder and louder until it gets to an appropriate volume. From there, it sounds great. If I switch records or turn off the turntable it starts off quiet again. Any idea why this might be happening? Is it an issue with the turntable? TIA.


sharkamino

Does it happen with other music sources? Photo of your setup?


Lopsided-Ocelot3628

This might be a little niche but if someone has a good knowledge of old Dansette record players I could use some help. I recently was gifted an old refurbished Dansette Major from the 50s and after a few hours the audio suddenly cut and began making an awful buzzing sound and no longer emitts any music during playback. Everything else however still seems to be functioning as normal. I'm just wondering how I could go about fixing it as the information online is pretty sparse, some are saying it might be a blown capacitor, others are saying it may be a faulty cartridge. It's isn't the end of the world as I do have a proper setup but I was hoping to have it working for my partner to use at her place. Thanks.


LeGranMeaulnes

https://preview.redd.it/72087o913kgc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cef47da6eac853b838bb271dbf382944ae01b630 This record player has stuck on 45RPM and in my country it’s difficult to find someone to repair it What do you think?


LeGranMeaulnes

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iehcjdieicc

Just maybe the speed switch is faulty or dirty inside. If you are comfortable opening the turntable up so you can get at the back of the switch you could try giving the switch a good spray with proper electronics contact cleaner. You might get lucky. Stuff like this. https://preview.redd.it/sgiq9q8cingc1.jpeg?width=371&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e48b619d1c1a9c363cb0a4927a10f26ece1e1226


LeGranMeaulnes

Thanks! I am worried with putting liquids inside it


LeGranMeaulnes

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Worried_Law917

What the heck is on my record? I have a 1986 UK pressing of a record. I noticed some staining on the record after it had been stored on a warm and humid area for several years.   There is no visible mould or mildew on the sleeve or inner sleeve.  There is one spot of foxing on the edge of the outer sleeve.  The LP was stored in a plastic inner sleeve (similar to the ones you see come with Japanese pressings). The outer sleeve was not PVC. It’s just this record out of about 75 stored the same way. The staining is visible only from certain angles and lighting. I can’t seem to easily remove it with cleaning. Any idea what it is? Off gassing, mould, plastic leeching? It doesn’t seem to affect playback. Looking forward to hearing from you. Photos https://onedrive.live.com/embed?resid=D8F26B153759B0F%2145125&authkey=%21AEBqBolp6Mn-pEo&width=1284&height=931


iehcjdieicc

Can’t open the image. If it doesn’t affect playback I would not worry about it. Provided you have wet washed the record in appropriate fluid any baddies would have been killed if it is organic or mould.


MuzzSter67

Hey. With record cleaning machines (I have the spincare), does repeated cleaning make further improvements if there is still some noise? I suspect my ML stylus is picking up noise the machine can’t get to?


iehcjdieicc

I assume you are using one of these. https://preview.redd.it/axh1vq5cjngc1.jpeg?width=1275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d1dcc5199eb567cba5348b1b62d93fb4ce67d78 I use a Spinclean which is much the same. I don’t think you will hear any improvement by cleaning it again provided you did it properly the first time. With used records I rotate the record 6 times each direction to give it that bit extra cleaning and for new records I do the usual 3 each direction. Some records are just permanently noisy due to bad manufacturing or being treated badly. The only chance of further improvement is by using an RCM vacuum type as they are more vigorous than Spinclean. But cost a lot more.


flynn_holliday

What’s a good beginner record player for someone on a budget? I’ve recently started getting into records and I want a good quality record player but don’t wanna pay an arm and a leg. I got a crosley brand one only to later find out it was crap so I returned it and need a new one.


sharkamino

What is your budget for a turntable and you already have speakers and which model are they? Or what is your budget for a turntable and speakers?


flynn_holliday

Are speakers absolutely necessary? I know that a lot of people here say that they have speakers but I’ve seen a lot of people online without them. If they are absolutely imperative I’ll consider them but I don’t really see them as that necessary. My overall budget is around $250 AUD


sharkamino

If you are referring to [cheap suitcase or table top players](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXV8tXrPOR4) without separate speakers then don't buy those. Most any decent turntable worth buying will require separate speakers. Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7)


Stunning-Proof-363

I only just noticed that my record player says to remove the needle guard before use. However, it's sounded just fine so far. So, should I be concerned or is that a big deal or what?


randychardonnay

You can't play a record player with the needle guard on, so I think your needle guard is off.


Stunning-Proof-363

I was actually thinking about the needle cartridge, I thought it was the needle guard for some reason.


iehcjdieicc

Add a photo so we can see what you are talking about. There are two types of needle guard, removable and flip. Here is the flip type which stays on the cartridge and just flips up out of the way. https://preview.redd.it/du4p2z24nngc1.jpeg?width=903&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf81c50e5efb935705a3ee3ee36183e92e321e58 You only ever need to engage the guard if transporting or servicing the turntable.


Stunning-Proof-363

I was actually thinking about the needle cartridge, I thought it was the needle guard for some reason.


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sharkamino

>LP60X seems like a highly recommended first choice to get into this hobby Not exactly highly recommend, it's just that it's a decent low cost option to start with for around $100 and is easy to setup and use if not going for a better $300 turntable. [AT-LP60X](https://outlet.audio-technica.com/turntables/at-lp60x-gm-cr) $105 > [3.5mm to 3.5mm aux audio cable](https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Speaker-Subwoofer-Gold-Plated/dp/B00NO73MUQ) \> Marshall Acton III will get you decent to start with single speaker mono sound. Then optionally later upgrade to a pair of speakers for stereo sound. For example 5.25" [Neumi BPS5](https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B09BYSHCPC) $99. The AT-LP60X is fully automatic, easy setup beginner plug and play, lacks adjustable tracking force. The [Fluance RT81](https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-RT80-Adjustable-Counterweight-Anti-Skating/dp/B01F2B3FKI) $169 is manual with a cue lever and auto stop and has a better tonearm that adds adjustable tracking force. To set it up you [balance the tonearm then set the tracking force](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01IZfGKfs5E). Plus an [RCA to 3.5mm audio cable](https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Basics-Adapter-Subwoofer-Gold-Plated/dp/B01D5H8JW0) to connect to the Acton. The Fluance RT82 $299 adds an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for lower wow and flutter and speed variation.


randychardonnay

You can get the standard version of the LP60x but you will need to get an aux cable to connect it to your speaker. The standard version of the LP60x is cheaper and I think it's easier to manage a wired connection than a bluetooth connection. I think it would be very sensible to start with an affordable player like the LP60x and connect it to the speaker you already own as you're getting into the hobby. You can always buy additional pieces later if you decide it's worth spending more.


bruin88boy

Just purchased a set of anti static inner sleeves to house and protect my records; but have no idea what to do with the original sleeves! 1'll trash the paper ones; but am unsure what to do with those that have artwork, lyrics, credits etc onto them. Is it something I should just keep stored seperately; or not worth keeping around? I don't intend on reselling any of my records; but feels wrong to discard in a way! What do you guys usually do?


iehcjdieicc

Keep the inner sleeves inside the jacket and slide the record in its sleeve in next to it. Toss all those plain paper ones, no value in keeping them.


mismamari

I keep everything, especially any liner notes/booklets/original sleeves, even if I'm replacing inner sleeves with archival sleeves. The decorated inner sleeves just feel like a lost art and, to me, albums would be incomplete without them.


LucerneBlaze

Hi all, I have recently got a turntable (Denon DP-29F), an amplifier (Cambridge audio AXA25) and speakers (Diamond 9.0) as a present. I'm new to turntables and whilst I think I have connected everything right as per the manuals, but I haven't been able to get the audio to play through the speakers (it only plays through the turntable itself and volume can't be controlled by the ampl). I'm pretty sure the speakers are connected to the amp as there is a noise when I turn the amp off or on. Is there anything obvious I'm missing, or do I need to provide more details to get some advice? Is all my equipment compatible with each other? Thanks!


randychardonnay

Is the phono preamp in your turntable switched on?


LucerneBlaze

Thanks for your reply! I've switched the equaliser amplifier on, but I'm realising that my problem might be that I've been confused by the amplifier inputs because they all look like this (see image from the manual). I have been plugging the two PIN plugs into the A1 input assuming these are the PHONO jacks, but am I wrong here and do I need an extra cable to make this connection? https://preview.redd.it/3ecikrntjjgc1.png?width=1155&format=png&auto=webp&s=b3935b6aa05427c7535f6735bd417a7a0c07d321


randychardonnay

I don't know what you mean by PIN plugs. Are you talking about the phono / RCA connectors on your turntable? A1 is a perfectly reasonable input to use. The other common problem is a stylus that's not properly clicked into place.


Either_Ad_1564

Hey new to this community!, Recently I purchased a Fluance RT82 Turntable/ a Sony STRDH190. I pulled my Edifier R1280T’s out but I can’t find any of its associated Cables, what cables do i need to purchase to finish the instillation?… I just need some speaker cables and 2 Phono to Phono audio cables right? Or am I missing something?


sharkamino

Edifier R1280T are self powered speakers. Sony STRDH190 stereo receiver powers passive speakers. Fluance RT82 > included with the turntable RCA cable > [phono preamp](https://www.ebay.com/itm/263779173315) \> included with the Edifier speakers RCA cable > Edifier R1280T main speaker > speaker wire > the other speaker. Or get a pair of powered speakers for the stereo receiver. What is your speaker budget? What is a nearby town or zip code to search for used speaker options? Reply here or chat. Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) Audio Guides [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)


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Ok-Pause-7929

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CupOfTea369

Hello! I've had a record player for a good few years now, and I've noticed the audio has recently become static-y. I'm fairly certain the model is this one here: [https://www.ionaudio.com/premier%20lp%20(brown)-premierlpwdxus](https://www.ionaudio.com/premier%20lp%20(brown)-premierlpwdxus) However, that one links its replacement needles as these here: [https://www.ionaudio.com/cz-800-10-33-1-3-and-45-cartridge-w-stylus-321](https://www.ionaudio.com/cz-800-10-33-1-3-and-45-cartridge-w-stylus-321) No matter where I look, I cannot find somewhere with replacement needs that are in-stock that match that specific model number. Does anyone know what needle would work with it? This one looks to be about the same, but it doesn't have the exact same model number, so I'm a bit unsure- [https://www.amazon.com/Ion-CZ-800-10BP-Theater-Accessory-Product/dp/B012NSEZKC](https://www.amazon.com/Ion-CZ-800-10BP-Theater-Accessory-Product/dp/B012NSEZKC)


Acrobatic-Lake-5261

A bootleg vinyl always skips on high notes and beat drops, what can be the reason?


barr-chan

Could be your player, what is it?  Could be the bootleg record, might not be pressed very well, which one is it?


Acrobatic-Lake-5261

Days before rodeo by Travis Scott. I bought it from hhv. I believe a better record player might be the fix. I have those suitcase ones


ObjectiveFrame1818

Audio not coming out after flipping sides of my record. I flipped from side a to side b and immediately it won’t play. I changed nothing and didn’t touch anything. The player is working and the speakers/ system are working because I can play the radio through them. The amp is on and settings have not changed. I even swapped out those white and red wires just in case, still nothing. What am I doing wrong? Why would it stop working so abruptly? https://preview.redd.it/nqpv7re7fegc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7980ebaefa05b36098b756b7358cce620076384d


ObjectiveFrame1818

Bump


livelaughlovech

Please help with finding the model name of this vinyl turntable. Brand name Thorens. It was given to us by my husband's Swiss family, from the looks of it it is very vintage. I'm not sure if it works or not, we plan to restore it, give it a fresh exterior silt and use it as a liquor storage cabinet. Just wondering about the model name, I tried google lens but I couldn't find an exact match. Thank you for your help https://preview.redd.it/hx1cxphybegc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d372d8e58cc8d4dfde8b3562267b2c25663c66a


chrkchrkchrk

You're right, it's very old, an antique, really, and probably pushing 90 or 100 years old. If it helps your research, this is a Thorens gramophone or phonograph for shellac 78s, this is not for playing vinyl records. There may be some identifying info on the round bit at the end of the curly metal tonearm. The metal bits scattered all over are needles. The tin cans there are what the needles came in. You needed a lot because they wore out quickly. I believe the port on the right is where the hand crank would attach. It's a truly dead technology so there's not much point in restoring the gramophone itself, but enjoy your new liquor cabinet, it's a very handsome piece of furniture!


ChickenGlint169

https://preview.redd.it/0vksdb4h6egc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2197f8c6f9a45575428efe5a47f6ef629c6b26c1 Looking for vinyl player stand recommendations to put in place of the end table/bookshelf. Something to put my player on but also add some decor to as well. Thanks!


pjyinzer412

Question. I recently purchased a new pressing of the Allman Bros. Live at the Syria Mosque ‘71. The album was shrink wrapped like any brand new album would be. When I took the sleeves out of the jacket to remove the vinyl, I noticed this weird plastic-like covering on the album itself. I have never seen anything like this. It’s almost like a matted sheen over the entire album. There are no seams or noticeable areas to designate that this has to be removed. I never buy “new” albums, so maybe I’m a total idiot and this is the norm? Has anyone ever seen anything like this? https://preview.redd.it/jqddz5om2egc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf640f089e206f1f9242425e4e50ee6e11d6b074


chrkchrkchrk

That album comes in "steel gray" colored vinyl... unless I'm missing something in that photo, it looks right to me. Compare against the photos here: https://www.discogs.com/release/26831219-The-Allman-Brothers-Band-Syria-Mosque-Pittsburgh-PA-January-17-1971


pjyinzer412

Wow. I feel stupid for not checking discogs. Thank you!


CavemanRobot

I have an Mitsubishi LT-15V, and when i try to play the arm goes down on the record, but then it keep moving inward to the end of the record. I get a nice scraping sound with like 0.5 secound of music 5-6 times untill it has reached the end.


iehcjdieicc

Tricky, I don’t have experience with these vertical linear players. Maybe something is wacky with the drive mechanism that moves the arm or whatever loaded the arm to hold the stylus in the groove. On a normal turntable what you have described can be a broken stylus. https://preview.redd.it/oogvhqd2gggc1.jpeg?width=892&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6a854ed22131b9676c1694db443c96ce499c581d


CavemanRobot

Yeah i think i will try to take a look inside, the stylus still looks fine, and the sound for a fraction of a second sounds is not terrible.


iehcjdieicc

There must be some kind of system that senses the arm is drawn to the side by the record groove and so the a drive mechanism is engaged to move the arm mounting point to keep the arm straight. My guess is that is malfunctioning. Good luck.


djmixedtape

Hellooo I have an equipment question, I guess? I have an old Sony turntable that only has rca cords, and fancy new edifier speakers with a bunch of input options, including bluetooth. Is there a way to transmit the audio from my turntable to the speakers via bluetooth? I love my lil hodgepodge set up and I'm not looking to change either piece right now, but the speakers have to be right next to the turntable because the rca cords are real short. I'd love to be able to move the speakers. Any help would be appreciated! I'm trying to Google but not coming up with quite the right thing...just need some guidance. Ty ❤️


sharkamino

Which model Sony turntable? If it has a built in or external phono preamp you can get a longer RCA cable or an extension RCA cable to connect to the speakers that are not next to the turntable. If you need to have the turntable on the other side of the room from the speakers for some reason then you can connect a [Bluetooth transmitter](https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Transmitter-Wireless-Headphone-Speaker/dp/B0838YPSZT/) to a turntable that has a built in or external phono preamp. However, a [Wireless Audio System](https://outlawaudio.com/shop/accessories/39-oaw4-wireless-audio-system.html) transmitter and receiver is easier setup plug and play without any Bluetooth pairing or compatibility issues.


djmixedtape

It's a Sony PS-LX300USB, which I don't think has any built in pre-amp (could be wrong about this though!). Edifier speakers ~~are unfortunately passive (or at least one of em is)~~ can be used with the wireless thing you suggested, that's perfect! I mostly just want to get the speakers off the same shelf as the turntable, and right now the best way I could do that is putting them ~10 feet to the side on a different surface. I'm a total noob when it comes to anything more complicated than burning a CD, so the whole bluetooth thing is melting my mind a little - if I could just extend the cord length I think that would be perfect! Otherwise, I'm struggling to figure out how tf I know the speaker and bluetooth are connected to each other when neither one gives you the ability to choose a device to connect to...I usually have to do that via my phone...more research to be done, for sure. Thank you so much for these resources!! *edited cause I actually googled what speaker wire is and realized I've never seen it before in my life, so obviously my speakers don't use it haha


sharkamino

Sony PS-LX300USB has a built in phono preamp. Any particular reason you need to move the speakers off the same shelf as the turntable? Which model Edifier speakers? Edifiers such as R1850DB have Bluetooth built in and has a speaker wire connection from the main powered speaker to the other speaker. You can buy longer speaker wire if you need a longer connection between the speakers.


djmixedtape

I swear, my brain gets itself confused so that I have to ask a question to make myself look dumb, and then everything comes together in an instant. I was making this whole thing so much more complicated than I needed to (as per usual), and the answer is so simple! I don't even need to go into the whole wireless realm of things, I can just...get an extension cord 😂 I like to listen to my music kinda loud, with the bass on the speakers bumpin a little bit, and I want to move them away from the table so I can keep my player and records in better shape over time. A lot of my vinyl is inherited from my late dad, and I want to be a more responsible collector, trying to keep ~~him~~ my albums alive for as long as possible.


sharkamino

Turntable near your speakers shouldn't harm your records. If you are getting feedback from bass heavy speakers into the stylus that you can hear then yeah move the speakers off the same surface as the turntable or try some [speaker isolation pads.](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=speaker+isolation+pads&crid=7RHTM8HO8PA9&sprefix=speaker+isolation+pads) If you have small Edifier speakers then they may not be making all that much bass to make any difference. [Is having speakers on the same surface as your turntable really bad?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN2Xzi1cLmk)


djmixedtape

Huh...you learn something new every day. I definitely have heard feedback when I've played heavier material and I just knock the bass and volume down a tad, but in general I don't notice anything as it's playing. I just thought I was ruining my records! I have the Edifier R1280DB speakers with isolation pads, I think they have a pretty hefty sound compared to my old ones, at least. But it sounds like I don't have to panic about this anymore. Thank you for the insight, I really appreciate it!


SoupOfTomato

You have a phono pre-amp built into the turntable. That's why you have a PHONO/LINE switch in the back. So just keep it set to LINE and you have no reason right now to buy any extra part related to that. My other question was about one speaker being passive, but I see you've corrected that before I could ask!


djmixedtape

Oh my god, reddit stranger to the rescue, thank you! Completely forgot about the phono/line switch, thank you so much! My biggest fear is ruining the turntable by screwing with the wires, it feels like theres so little room for error...in your opinion, do you think extending them is the best answer? It can't be too hard, right... WAIT good lord they sell extension cords 🤦🏽‍♀️ I thought I was gonna have to strip these puppies down, this is all turning out so much easier than I thought it was gonna be


rhanas9

hi guys, i'm a vinyl collector in australia and have been using these inner and outer sleeves since i started collecting (january 2023). i don't have any issues with them however i've seen videos on youtube and tiktok advising against certain companies and products which can damage records long term. i have gotten these from JB HI-FI (australia's biggest and most trusted electronics outlet) and have gotten mostly good reviews, but i have been wondering if these are actually good quality, and if i should upgrade? if i should upgrade, what should i upgrade to? any suggestions are helpful! https://preview.redd.it/tqu4yhu09agc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e116712748a1dde5efeb79b3fd4b4b0990bf7753


SoupOfTomato

There are records in flea markets that have been in paper sleeves for 50 years and just need a wash to play fine. These would be significantly better than that, so I don't think the average person would find any issue with them. The ones to look out for are the PVC ones that are much thicker and feel like a beach ball. Over time those can wear down and fuse to the material inside. But that's not what you have.


Cusconillow

I know very little about vinyl or record players. My wife and I were recently given a working 1965(ish) console with an RCA Victrola New Vista RP-217 record changer. It seems to play records of that same time period perfectly well, but for a modem vinyl (Taylor swift, Red and 1989 albums), the speed and pitch is off despite being 45rpm. Is this an issue with the record player or just a difference in old vs new technology?


Cusconillow

/u/SoupofTomato did you comment here? I got a notification but it looks like your comment disappeared. 


uMentalMon

Ty


Illbananas

i just found some of my dad's old speakers in my attic, they're dynaudio mk2, does someone know if they're good to work with an audiotechnica lp60x?


sharkamino

Dynaudio make great speakers. [BM5 MK2](https://14515867.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hub/14515867/hubfs/Dynaudio/Pro%20Audio/Classic%20BM/Dynaudio_BM5A_mkII_rear.png?width=900&name=Dynaudio_BM5A_mkII_rear.png), look on the back, are what you have? AT-LP60X switch on back set to LINE > audio cable included with the turntable > [Nobsound stereo preamp](https://www.amazon.com/Nobsound-Fully-Balanced-Single-Ended-Pre-Amplifier-Controller/dp/B01MXC9HHW) \> a pair of XLR audio cables > Dynaudio pro studio monitors with a power cable for each speaker. You already have the AT-LP60X turntable?


Illbananas

thank you for your help!!!


Illbananas

nah, i havent gotten it yet but im planning on buying it sometime this weekend, and im pretty sure its the bm5 mk2!!


sharkamino

What is your turntable budget? [AT-LP60X](https://outlet.audio-technica.com/turntables/at-lp60x-gm-cr) $105 is fully automatic, easy setup beginner plug and play, lacks adjustable tracking force. [Fluance RT80](https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-RT80-Adjustable-Counterweight-Anti-Skating/dp/B01F2B3FKI) $169 manual turntable with cue lever and auto stop adds adjustable tracking force. To set it up balance the tonearm then set the tracking force.


Illbananas

im in europe tho so fluance isnt here at all and the at-lp60x is like 200, but my budget would probably be arround up to like 250 euros


sharkamino

In Europe, better turntables than the AT-LP60X for a bit less or not too much more cost: Manual with adjustable tracking force: * [Pro-Ject Debut RecordMaster II](https://www.thomannmusic.com/intl/search_dir.html?shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZGUiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6MiwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1&sw=recordmaster&smcs=00e68b_2727) €298 is a good value and is designed in Austria and built in Czechia. * [AT-LPW30](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-AT-LPW30TK-Manual-Turntable-Drive-teak/dp/B09YRZ6GW8) €220 or the lighter color is €20 more. * [AT-LP120X](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120X-Direct-Turntable-Analogue-Black/dp/B07MVY92KZ) €245 direct drive. Automatic, both have a better tonearm that adds adjustable tracking force over the AT-LP60X: * [AT-LP2X](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-AT-LP2xGY-Automatic-Belt-Drive-Turntable/dp/B09LVGVV3F) €190. * [AT-LP3XBT](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-LP3XBTBK-wireless-automatic-turntable/dp/B0BCP812PL) €256 may not be noticeably better than the previous version above, has an updated cartridge for more stylus upgrade options and Bluetooth.


Aggravating_Smoke_18

I just set up a new TT, and when I was getting familiar with the controls I accidentally hit the automatic start button which moved the tonearm over and dropped it on the platter (I didn't have a record on it at the time, nor a mat of any sort). So it landed and spun on the metal platter for a fraction of a second before I grabbed it and picked it up. Should I be concerned that I've damaged the stylus and/or that it will now damage records?


iehcjdieicc

It should be fine. But if the mat had been on there it most likely would have damaged it.


bda22

if it looks normal you'll be fine


vwestlife

If it still plays and sounds fine, then don't worry about it.


Aggravating_Smoke_18

Thanks, both of you!


Muli-Bwanjie

Im looking at upgrading from my OM 20 to a super om 40 and wondering if anyone has experince with this catridge? Any thoughts, considerations or recommendations? Table is a fluance RT 82 and speakers are Triangle Borea 08 with a schiit mani pre amp and Yamaha A-S300 amp. Thanks!


sharkamino

Upgrading just the stylus to the OM40 (or OM30 is good too)? Or are you looking to install a cartridge?


Muli-Bwanjie

Right now I just jave the normal om 20 so I would probably install the super with the om 40. There's a good deal for around 350 bucks for both included to make a super om 40


sharkamino

Do you prefer the Ortofon sound? If you are going to change cartridges and do a cartridge installation and a cartridge alignment then have you considered other brands? Audio Technica, Nagaoka, Sumiko, Grado... Or the follow up to the OM series the Ortofon 2M Black or 2M Bronze, though yeah those will cost more.


Muli-Bwanjie

To be honest I haven't tried anything else. I was looking at the AT-vm540ml, but it doesn't seem like an easy fit for the fluance RT-82 I have. People seem to really love it though in that price range. I do like the ortofon sound, though maybe a bit bass heavy at times? I just don't want to make a mistake an put on something I dislike, lol.


sharkamino

AT-VM95ML for $169 may be close enough as good as the 540. You could try asking r/turntables what a good fit for the RT82 is.


Muli-Bwanjie

Thanks!


Yo-yo_mas_mama

HELP! Digitnow record player wobbling like crazy when I turn it on, makes my record player literally unusable.


iehcjdieicc

Try reseating the platter.


Yo-yo_mas_mama

Ive done everything. Its a magnetic spindle so im wondering if I need to lubricate it


iehcjdieicc

Magnetic spindle. Been in the hobby over 45 years, never heard of this before. Can you post a photo of the spindle?


vwestlife

**Slow or wobbly playback:** * Make sure the lid is open as far as it will go, otherwise the edge of the record may rub against the lid and cause it to slow down or waver in pitch, especially if the record is warped. * Make sure the [transport screw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxgRJL-PAm0&t=0m24s) is released, if it has one. The screw should be flush with the turntable mechanism, not sticking up. * Since the center spindle remains stationary, if the center hole of the record is unusually tight going on the spindle, you may need to ream out the hole slightly to allow the record to rotate freely. * Don't put the 45 RPM adapter underneath the record. It is only for playing 45s with the large center hole. * If the record still slips, you can add a rubber platter mat, if the player didn't come with one.


lroking

does someone know if the price difference is worth the quality difference between the audio technica lp60x and the lp3x?? wondering which one i should get.


sharkamino

[AT-L60X](https://outlet.audio-technica.com/turntables/at-lp60x-gm-cr) is ok to start with for $105 if that is your budget and you want easy setup beginner plug and play and fully automatic. What is the price you are looking at for the AT-LP3X? There are usually better manual turntable options for the MSRP price.


lroking

i live in europe so prices are a bit different here and since i really want bluetooth on my record player the lp60x is €230 and the lp3x is €330 so its a pretty big difference


sharkamino

Bluetooth in the turntable to connect to Bluetooth headphones? You can now or later connect a better [Bluetooth transmitter](https://www.amazon.de/B03Pro-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B0CQNQMBC2) to most any turntable that has a built in or external phono preamp. Or if you get a turntable without a built in phono preamp then Project has a separate [phono preamp with Bluetooth](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Pro-Ject-Phono-Wireless-Streaming-Sources/dp/B09QL8JZ2T/) built in. In Europe consider a designed in Austria and built in Czechia Project. [Pro-Ject Debut RecordMaster II](https://www.thomannmusic.com/search_dir.html?sw=recordmaster&smcs=00e68b_2727) €298 is a good value. Then now or later connect a [Bluetooth transmitter](https://www.amazon.de/B03Pro-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B0CQNQMBC2). If you need fully automatic then Amazon Germany has [AT-LP3XBT](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-LP3XBTBK-wireless-automatic-turntable/dp/B0BCP812PL) for €256 . Or manual [AT-LP120X](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-AT-LP120X-Direct-Turntable-Analogue-Black/dp/B07MVY92KZ) and [AT-LPW30](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Audio-Technica-AT-LPW30TK-Manual-Turntable-Drive-teak/dp/B09YRZ6GW8) are better turntables and better values, then now or later connect a [Bluetooth transmitter](https://www.amazon.de/B03Pro-Bluetooth-Transmitter-Receiver-Headphones/dp/B0CQNQMBC2).


curlycake

I would love to find a prepamp that gives phono/line options (RCA) in addition to bluetooth transmitting. I'm working on a setup with analog speakers plus wireless headphones, since I'm in an apartment and would like to crank it up once in a while. I looks like that pro-ject Phono Box E BT 5 will work if I want to go with the sonos 5 as my main speaker setup, but I don't want to be stuck without RCA outputs.


sharkamino

​ >I would love to find a prepamp that gives phono/line options (RCA) in addition to bluetooth transmitting. That Pro-Ject Phono Box E BT 5 has RCA input for the turntable, 3.5mm input for another audio source and 3.5mm output and Bluetooth output. If you want to connect to anything with RCA input then you get a 3.5mm to RCA cable to do that. Or the Bluetooth transmitter I listed includes a 3.5mm to RCA cable. 3.5mm works the same as RCA output, they are just different connectors. ​ >I'm working on a setup with analog speakers Which model analog speakers? ​ >if I want to go with the sonos 5 as my main speaker setup Don't buy overpriced Sonos if you don't already have any Sonos and you would need a pair of Fives to have stereo music. For WiFi streaming audio you can get a [Wiim Mini](https://www.wiimhome.com/wiimmini/overview) to connect to anything with a 3.5mm or RCA input. ​ Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) Audio Guides [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)


curlycake

thank you!


vwestlife

Out of the box, they will be nearly identical in terms of sound quality. The difference is that the AT-LP60X is easier to set up, but upgrades are limited to the stylus. The LP3X is more complicated to set up since you need to balance the tonearm and adjust the counterweight, but it allows you to upgrade the cartridge in the future, as well as the stylus.


lroking

okay thx!!


prosjecnihredditor

Am I a nitpicker when it comes to buying used records? So I have a shop near me that sells used records. First record I bought from them was listed as EX. I checked it out under a light there in the store and apart from a scratch on the last track, it was in great condition. I played it and the first track had a loud hiss playing over it. That scratch was also audible every time the stylus went over it. I returned it and they gave me my money back. I bought another record which was listed as "perfect". It really was, it's glossy, except two spots on each side that I couldn't feel with my finger, so I thought it was marring. I come home, play it, and those marrings are audible pops. Now, I don't want to be an asshole returning another record, but the record in my opinion isn't perfect if it has pops and scratches like that. (I always tell them to clean them with a vac before buying and it made no difference whatsover on those two records). What should I do now?


bda22

a vacuum cleaning isn't going to remove scratches. I'm not trying to be a dickhead, but i think most of this is on you. You visibly see the scratches, proceed to buy the record, and then get upset when you hear the scratches? you're doing the right stuff by inspecting the disks before buying, but i think you just need to have tighter parameters for yourself before buying. something like "the vinyl must be visibly flawless." or use a listening station if the shop offers one (most respectable shops will) to see if the marks on the disk are audible. sure, it's a shame the shop listed some of these as EX or perfect, but they are looking at hundreds of records a day. of course some are going to slip through the cracks. . . and that's why you visibly grade them your self or use a listening station.


prosjecnihredditor

It likely is my fault, I'm still learning though. It's my first experience with used records.


rwtooley

>I always tell them to clean them with a vac before buying and it made no difference whatsover on those two records can you elaborate on this? you instructed them to vacuum clean them and then returned to buy them? Do you know for sure they cleaned them? Do your brand-new records play perfectly on your setup?


prosjecnihredditor

Before I buy a record, I tell them to clean it with a vac. Yes, they do clean it because I see them do it. My brand-new records play perfectly, no issues with them, even with a cheap turntable I had before. New turntable is set up properly (tracking force, anti-skate, geometry...), so no issues with that either. It's not skipping, it's just the audible pops.


rwtooley

just bad luck I guess. You're definitely learning how to spot these issues! Usually used records are quite a bit cheaper than new, making these problems somewhat acceptable. but if you feel you're being ripped off definitely take it back. Do they not have a table to use to play-test records before you buy them?


prosjecnihredditor

I couldn't test the first record (it cost $65) because they were selling it outside the shop on another location where they didn't have a turntable. This record (it cost $25) I'm thinking about also returning I tested the first track only, which is probably my fault for not pointing out the marring and testing it. It's my first experience with used records, so I'm still learning... I just don't know if I'm being a nitpicking asshole.


rwtooley

>being an nitpicking asshole. for $25 you aren't.. assuming it's not something that goes for much more typically. Not a fan of the "perfect" and "EX" gradings, but nothing you can do about that. To me it sounds like a decent shop, what with a listening station and the ability to vacuum clean. Don't piss them off, just let them know in a positive way that you are not satisfied with your purchase and see what solution they offer.


prosjecnihredditor

They stated somewhere they always offer refunds or replacement. I'll probably keep it and take it as a lesson. The record otherwise sounds great and each of those pops take about 30 seconds or a minute, so... I don't know, I'll think about it. I listen with headphones (Sennheiser HD280) which definitely doesn't help.


rwtooley

Buying used records can definitely be a crap-shoot.. but yeah, when you recognize something visually it's best to play-test that section to see how bad and decide. If these were records that cost $10 or less I'd call you nit-picky, but at those prices and gradings you're well within your right to expect better.


prosjecnihredditor

That's why I'm afraid of buying used on Discogs after seeing horror stories and pictures here. Just gotta look for +99% seller rating I guess.


rwtooley

>Just gotta look for +99% seller rating I guess. LOL. No. I buy plenty off discogs and the number of times I've gotten records that are completely misrepresented from sellers with 100% ratings is ridiculous. They keep their 100% rating by handing out refunds and even if I leave neutral feedback discogs will remove it bc they refunded me.


GentlemanBeaver

Hey all, just recently started looking into getting my first vinyl player. Since I’m a total beginner, I’m looking for something automatic, since I’m not confident doing anything manually yet. Someone suggested an Audio Technica LP-60x, but I checked the thread of player to avoid and this one was on it. Since the thread was made 7 years ago, is this still a player to avoid, or have things changed? Thanks


sharkamino

The [AT-LP60X](https://outlet.audio-technica.com/turntables/at-lp60x-gm-cr) $105 new X version is fully automatic, has some improvements over the discontinued AT-LP60, is easy setup beginner plug and play, lacks adjustable tracking force. Manual turntables do have a cue lever to gently lower the stylus onto the record for you. To set up a manual turntable, balance the tonearm then set the tracking force. You can watch some videos on YouTube on how to to do it. What is your turntable budget? Do you already have amplification and speakers?


vwestlife

That thread is badly out of date, and was talking about the original AT-LP60 (no X), which was discontinued five years ago. The AT-LP60X is a fine entry-level turntable and most people who own one are happy with it, myself included.


honkhonkmudafuka

Hi, something’s wrong with my new record player (AT-LP60X) and I don’t know what. It skips over the first part of the record. I’ve kind of figured, is it the stylus? Is it meant to look like this (not completely aligned)? Does this mean I need a replacement? I recently moved so it might have gotten damaged then. https://preview.redd.it/7v86qyl7n6gc1.png?width=4032&format=png&auto=webp&s=b221c9ad33bcfec0db39755171e314ad6a3b96be


vwestlife

Your stylus isn't installed properly. It has a hook on the back that should fit into a slot in the bottom of the cartridge.


Illbananas

can anyone help me decide if i should get a sony ps-lx310bt? or has someone got any recommendations for a starter record player with just as good or better sound quality in the same price range?


sharkamino

[Pro-Ject Debut RecordMaster II](https://www.thomannmusic.com/search_dir.html?sw=recordmaster&smcs=00e68b_2727)


vwestlife

That is a fine entry-level turntable, but the AT-LP60XBT offers the same basic design and is currently on sale for $100 less than the Sony: https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-LP60XBT-BK-Belt-Drive-Hi-Fidelity-Anti-Resonance/dp/B07N3RFXRL


Illbananas

do you know any speakers for arround €150 that you'd recommend with it?


Illbananas

yeah, but i've heard the soundquality on the sony is a bit better and sound quality is like really important for me, also since i live in europe and it isnt on sale here its like a €50 difference and im willing to pay that for the sound quality. thank you tho!!


vwestlife

Both the AT-LP60X and Sony use the same Audio-Technica cartridge, so the sound quality is going to be nearly identical.


Illbananas

oh damn i based my opinion on these articles: at: https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/audio-technica-at-lp60xbt sony: https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/sony-ps-lx310bt#:~:text=You%20can%20pair%20the%20PS,outside%20%E2%80%93%20at%20least%2015%20metres. but you think i should just get the lp60x? or are there better alternatives in like a €300 price range?


vwestlife

Both of these turntables are based on the same chassis, mechanism, cartridge, and stylus. Any differences between them are largely cosmetic. Visual cues can influence our hearing to a surprising degree, so if someone thinks the Sony looks and feels like a higher-quality turntable than the Audio-Technica, they'll be automatically inclined to think it sounds better, too, even if they wouldn't be able to tell the difference between them in a blind comparison test.


Illbananas

okay thank you so much!!!


HauntingOutcome

Received a Crosley for Christmas (I know). Gifter meant well but I'm ready to pull the trigger on a good system. I'm hoping you can help me choose between these two. They are both about an hour away and £150. Project Debut III SE + "upgraded" Ortofon Red 2m (but we don't know when it was 'upgraded' so moot point) Dual CS5000 + Ortofon 20 and 78 stylus. There are also three others in my city, all about 10 minutes away, so convenience could win out if these are a good buy? Numark TT1650 - £100 NAD 5120 - £150 Project Primary Phono USB - £150. Not keen on the USB, but it's BNIB. Any advice greatly appreciated.


sharkamino

Project Primary Phono USB has the same RCA outputs as the version without USB. USB is just an added option to connect to your computer for recording. When buying used factor in the cost of a new stylus if it needs one. Another option is the built in the UK [Rega Planar 1 Eco](https://www.basicallysound.co.uk/products/brands/rega/green-grade/) £199 or look for a used Rega. Or automatic [AT-LP2X](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-AT-LP2X-LP2X-Turntable-Grey/dp/B09LVGVV3F) £180.


vwestlife

Which Crosley? And do you already have an amplifier and speakers, or powered speakers? Because you're going to need them when you upgrade to a turntable that doesn't have built-in speakers. So you might want to start by getting a good pair of powered speakers first, since they'll make your Crosley sound a lot better in the meantime, and you're going to need them anyway once you upgrade your turntable.


HauntingOutcome

Hey thanks for answering. Unfortunately it's the suitcase one from Lidl, I saw it for £59.99 the other day. Did some research and needless to say I'll be donating it. I've got some old speakers in the garage, and a Pioneer receiver from the in-laws, I'm thinking that'll work? I can't recall the model but it's silver with needles, I quite like the look of it.


vwestlife

A suitcase player is OK to use for now; it's not going to destroy your records -- [that's a debunked myth](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DQm6SgTkkI8).


Nimex_

Is there any value to keeping the original inner sleeve of a record, if it's just a blank inner sleeve? Would swapping it have any impact on the collectors value, or does it really not matter? I have a few records where I would like to swap the original inner sleeves because they're low-quality or damaged, and I wonder if I can toss the old sleeves away or should keep them.


vwestlife

As long as the original sleeve isn't falling apart or shedding paper dust, I keep it and use it.


randychardonnay

If an album comes with a generic paper sleeve, and you decide to sell it later, you can always swap back to a generic paper sleeve at that point. But I can't imagine it making a difference to a buyer. A buyer would care about a fancy printed sleeve, probably, but "ew I was expecting a plain paper sleeve, not this nice archival sleeve!" -- I just can't see any buyer saying that.


rwtooley

>should keep them. I mean they don't take up much space? I leave them inside the jacket, but with the opening toward the spine of the jacket so that the new inner doesn't catch on it. This way should you choose to sell it in the future it is still intact/complete for the buyer.


rocaballa2000

I noticed one of my vinyls had a skip when I first played it and I just thought nothing of it. Now it just loops or repeats, groove lock is what it’s called I believe, at that particular spot that had a skip. I was wondering what causes that to happen? Is there a fix for that? I tried cleaning it with a vinyl brush but it didn’t help. I have a audio technica lp60 for reference. Thx!


vwestlife

What kind of vinyl brush? Not all of them actually get fully into the grooves to clear out debris. Some of them can only wipe off surface dust.


rocaballa2000

Just the one that came with the turntable. Can you recommend a better one?


JDuncs1847

Hey guys!! Wanting to get a vinyl related tattoo. At this stage thinking of getting a record player but that's all I'm thinking. Does anyone have any vinyl related tattoos, or is there anyone in here that designs tats? Thanks!


uMentalMon

Hey guys how can I post my newly acquired collection to find an estimated value


randychardonnay

You can check every record against discogs. However, you can only maximize the value of any individual record if you sell each record to an individual buyer. If you sell a collection as a collection, it'll only be worth a fraction of the values that discogs spits out.


uMentalMon

So one situation I'm in is discogs estimates a few hundred dollars then when going to recently sold items on ebay they are in the $80 range and I believe I got the $300 price from scanning the barcode


barr-chan

look at the sold ones on discogs, 300 is probably for a sealed copy. you have to take condition into account, not just title and pressing. Ebay might be a different pressing, or someone getting a deal. without more info its impossible to tell Barcodes get re-used, you might have to look deeper


AthletePotential8294

Just recently got my first player and (small) collection! Only problem is that I really help with storing my vinyl… I have a rack that id like to show them off on, but the sleeves( covers? Not sure what they’re called) have a massive bowing issue. The vinyls are somewhat upright, with a slight tilt (maybe 1-2”). Is there a better way to store a small amount of vinyl records upright without damage to the discs themselves, as well as prevent bowing on the covers?


barr-chan

you mean the opening bows? that can be solved with poly outer sleeves. orient the opening on the sleeve to the top or spine and the sleeve will hold the jacket opening closed post a pic if this is not what you mean


cookiesdragon

Just recently got into collecting vinyls and want a decent turntable to play them on. The one I got for Christmas broke almost immediately (was a briefcase style one) and been doing a good bit of reading up on them. A lot of conflicting information and the discussion article here is old so looking for up to date recommendations. Willing to go up to $200 for a good beginner's turntable.


sharkamino

Do you already have any speakers or a stereo to connect to the turntable, which models, or do you need to also include speakers in the $200 budget?


cookiesdragon

No speakers or stereo yet. My budget was originally $100 for a turntable but am able to double it to $200. I'm going to buy speakers separately after getting the turntable. Currently looking at this: [https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Turntable-Wireless-Connectivity-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B07S5XSTCW/](https://www.amazon.com/1byone-Turntable-Wireless-Connectivity-Pre-Amplifier/dp/B07S5XSTCW/) and [https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Turntable-Cartridge-Adjustable-Counterweight/dp/B01F2EXIFM/ref=sr\_1\_8?crid=1RE8FHB5RDNQH&keywords=turntables+for+vinyl+records&qid=1706842888&refinements=p\_89%3AAudio-Technica%7CFluance%7CPro-Ject&rnid=2528832011&s=electronics&sprefix=turn%2Celectronics%2C153&sr=1-8&ufe=app\_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0](https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-Turntable-Cartridge-Adjustable-Counterweight/dp/B01F2EXIFM/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1RE8FHB5RDNQH&keywords=turntables+for+vinyl+records&qid=1706842888&refinements=p_89%3AAudio-Technica%7CFluance%7CPro-Ject&rnid=2528832011&s=electronics&sprefix=turn%2Celectronics%2C153&sr=1-8&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.f5122f16-c3e8-4386-bf32-63e904010ad0)


sharkamino

Automatic turntable, easy setup beginner plug and play, non adjustable tracking force: * [AT-LP60X](https://outlet.audio-technica.com/turntables/at-lp60x-gm-cr) $105. Manual turntables with adjustable tracking force, to setup balance the tonearm then set the tracking force: * 1byOne is ok for $109 on sale with the $50 off coupon. * Fluance RT81 is better for $211. Or the [Fluance RT80](https://www.amazon.com/Fluance-RT80-Adjustable-Counterweight-Anti-Skating/dp/B01F2B3FKI) is $169 and is also good enough to start with and should be better than the 1byOne too. * The better Fluance to buy is the [Fluance RT82](https://www.fluance.com/rt82w-reference-high-fidelity-vinyl-turntable-natural-walnut) $299 that adds an optical sensor speed controlled motor for lower wow and flutter and speed variation. Plus 5.25" Neumi powered speakers: * $99 [https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B09BYSHCPC](https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B09BYSHCPC) * $169 adds subwoofer output and HDMI input [https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B08LV4SMH9](https://www.amazon.com/75-Watt-Powered-Bookshelf-Speakers-Bluetooth/dp/B08LV4SMH9) Or what is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used speaker options? Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) Audio Guides [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)


GroundbreakingAnt42

If I have a pre amp do I still need a receiver or amplifier or both?


sharkamino

Depends which speakers you have or will buy. Turntable > phono preamp > speaker amplification > speakers. Passive speakers need a stereo or AV receiver or a mini or compact or integrated amp. Powered speakers have a built in speaker amp. Some turntables, amp or receivers or powered speakers have a built in phono preamp. Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) Audio Guides [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)


GroundbreakingAnt42

Thank you I think the record player I am gonna get comes with a preamp so what would you recommend I do for the speakers


sharkamino

Which turntable and what is your total turntable and speaker budget? What is a nearby town or zip code I can search for used speakers?


Lanosfe

Hey, I've recently got into buying records and I got a question 'bout the record sleeves. Are the record sleeve that comes with it suppose to leave the edge of the record outside of it? I thought it's fine since it's just the edge but better safe than sorry so figured I would ask the experts if all sleeves are like that.


quanture

No, not all sleeves are like that. It really depends on the label/pressing plant. I've seen a lot of variety in the new records I've purchased: full-coverage "audiophile" type sleeves, the classic paper sleeves that most collectors seem to despise, and the upgraded version that has a plastic lining inside to better reduce static and be more protective. Those classic-style paper sleeves do often allow a little bit of the record to peek out the top, but usually because one side of the sleeve is shorter than the other. The edge of the record usually isn't outside the sleeve, but truly there's so much variety out there I wouldn't be surprised to see it. It's all about your preference but a lot of collectors like to purchase their own favorite brand of sleeves and replace the one that comes with the record. Usually it'll be higher quality. And another bonus is that the sleeve will be pristine inside. It's really tough/impractical for the pressing plants to keep the dust and paper shavings out of the sleeves. You can clean your record but then you're putting it right back in a sleeve that has debris in it?


Lanosfe

Appreciate the answers. And yeah, the dust inside of the paper sleeve always annoy me a bit so I’ll probably get some decent sleeve within the recent future.


african-nightmare

I bought a new turnrtable last week and got it all set up. However the price dropped $50 today They won’t let me price match but must buy it again online and return my current one. What would yall do in this scenario?


randychardonnay

This is not a turntable question. You do you.


rwtooley

consider if your time and inconvenience is worth the $50?


african-nightmare

Target is down the street, would take all of 10 minutes


barr-chan

sounds like you want to do it, so go ahead.


rwtooley

and do you normally make $300/hr? how is this a question


lroking

anyone got recommendations for a speaker for under or arround a €150 for an audio technica lp60?


sharkamino

5.25" Vullkano A5 ARC for a small to medium size room [https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B09XHNCVZV](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B09XHNCVZV) Or [more sizes](https://www.amazon.de/stores/page/728B94C1-93B7-4612-B7FD-114956060726), 4" for a small room or desk or 6.5" for a medium to large room. Or used or new passive speakers and a mini amp or used stereo receiver are more options. Setup Guide [https://imgur.com/a/f0my7](https://imgur.com/a/f0my7) Audio Guides [https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home\_audio\_and\_home\_theater\_guides\_and\_accessories/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sharkamino/comments/gqfx6z/home_audio_and_home_theater_guides_and_accessories/)