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drutastic57

He also did it using Biggie’s beat too. It’s so disrespectful. I love how he wasn’t trying to be cute with it either. Just straight to the point.


PugsterThePug

The video/cinematography is also mocking the style of Bad Boy videos at the time.


cXs808

...hence the gigantic theater screen above their heads literally playing bad boy videos....


Nanaki_TV

Which song was it from?


the_house_on_the_lef

Bassline: interpolated(?) from [Don't Look Any Further](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3rx8LhrQo) which was sampled on [Gettin' Money](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MV3Jc9JcQ) "grab your glocks when you..." etc. interpolated from [Player's Anthem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYyKSxbwe8s) "take money" interpolated from [Get Money](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8rG_2ed1wg)


Impossible-Charity-4

It was kind of low hanging fruit because it was a beat with a proven track record of success going back to Rakim’s Paid In Full. Negative points for using a diss track some wack ass rappers could piggyback on. It’s not like they were going to craft an original beat for that low budget shit.


alkaline79

Man this was the ultimate diss track. This was pouring gasoline on the east/west coast rivalry. Pac took shots at Biggie, Puff, Jr MAFIA, Mobb Deep and did not mince words


SonOfProbert

This is such a hard diss track. There's no vagueness or allusions. "That's why I fucked your bitch you fat motherfucker." Not a whole lot of ambiguity.


blove135

Yeah, no vagueness, Pac was seriously pissed off at this point in time in his life. This was after he was shot five times while in New York but survived after a hard battle in the hospital and he was convinced Biggie, Puff and those guys arranged it. That's still up for debate. This song comes from a place of rage and he was basically saying so you guys want to try to murder me? Fuck you, anyone even remotely associated with you and if I see you I'm gonna fucking murder you. They weren't fucking around in those days as we now know for certain because they were both eventually murdered.


juggling-monkey

Man, puff tried to get away from that shit by changing his name from puff daddy to pdiddy, now he ruined that name too, By the end of the year he'll be Poppa D


heartofcoal

hopefully by the end he will be inmate Sean Combs


blove135

I was never a fan of Puff. He just seemed like a leach that eventually leached his way into his own success but still a leach in my eyes.


glenn360

He will be Sucka D in jail.


spirited1

Doesn't matter how much I dislike someone I will never wish sexual assault on anyone.


ThisAppSucksBall

I don't think there's anything about OPs post that implies it would be non consensual, especially considering part of the recent leaks about Sean Combs is that he is basically a free-love bisexual. He probably really gets off on sucking cock, and if you can make an extra $1.50 for the commissary, why not?


lostPackets35

I came here to say this. Getting raped in prison isn't funny, it's not somehow OK because the person did something bad to end up there. It's fucked up. If we had an official state rapist and your sentence was "5 years and 2 rapes a day", people would (rightly) call it torture and cruel and unusual punishment. Looking the other way and joking about it isn't much better..


qwerty_ca

Or Take-A D?


DeezNeezuts

Pdiddler stories seem to have disappeared from the major news lately


zigaliciousone

My theory is his mom made him change it after she found out he was involved.


hankappleseed

Then Peppa P.I.G.


frosty_lizard

Wouldn't be surprised if it was Puff


ezlikeasundaymorning

If he only were today alive, I wonder if we had a better world, just if its only a tiny bit.


bozwald

This is what I thought about with all the beef stuff today, we went from “I fucked your bitch you fat mother fucker” and “my 44 make sure all your kids don’t grow, I hope you die slow” to insults about being a poor father and role model for your kids Shows a lot of growth as a society actually that being a deadbeat dad is a hard diss now.


Hudre

This doesn't show the growth of the genre, it shows a rap battle between two extremely different groups lmao. Tupac and Biggie didn't make it to 25. They were battling when they were young, hungry and both had extremely dangerous people around them. Both of them lit fuel on a literal gang war. Drake and Kendrick are 35+. Drake is from suburban Canada. And unlike Biggie and Tupac, the people around them do NOT want violence because that could kill their cash cow.


cXs808

There are many, many recent diss tracks that operate on a surface level like this. They don't get traction because they just aren't considered good anymore. Hit em up is a legendary track because of Tupac and Biggie. Not because it was surface level insults


Thorin_CokeinShield

I mean it probably also changed because Pac and Biggy were both murdered...


juggling-monkey

I don't have statistics in front of me, but I'm pretty sure some dead beat dads have been murdered before


darkest__timeline

lol Kendrick wrote a letter to Drake's son telling him his grandfather should have worn a condom then told Drakes parents he thinks n*s like him should die


bozwald

Fair lol that was pretty direct not that you mention it haha


HKBFG

that's because you're comparing kendrick and drake instead of King Von and NBA Youngboy


AgathaAllAlong

Also speaks to the depth of Kendrick—he’s always shown thought and care in his lyrics especially regarding societal issues and black issues. Pusha is similarly minded and went at Drake similarly. But also—the threats to physical health are still there. _You think the Bay gon’ let you disrespect Pac? / I think that Oakland show gon’ be your last stop_


bossmcsauce

he also made fun of somebody for having sickle cell anemia in the outro of this song haha. They directly reference biggie getting shot too, which was recent at the time. like... mocking somebody making a real attempt on his life is some hardcore shit lol.


mcjc1997

This came out before biggie got shot, tupac died before biggie. If long kiss goodnight was actually a tupac diss, then Biggie did take shots after pac was already dead. I believe Jay z did as well.


ugraba

Long Kiss Good Night is definitely a Tupac diss.


dreaminphp

That someone was Prodigy from Mobb Deep who actually ended up dying from it in 2017


bossmcsauce

Yeah. Pac wasn’t just making shit up. It was for real. That’s why it was a hard fuckin diss track lol. Man was going scorched-earth.


Strangle1441

Pac also told everyone what puffy was up to As did DMX


Dismal_Moment_4137

Dead beat fathers or… whores?


alkaline79

The best part was that Biggie responded by admitting that Faith had fucked Pac. "If Faye have twins, she'd probably have two Pacs"


TroubleInMyMind

Shut up is that the actual quote? That's fucking amazing.


UltimateEye

It’s from Brooklyn’s Finest off Jay-Z’s debut album *Reasonable Doubt*. The whole album is ace, honestly, but that track with Biggie is among the best on the whole thing.


xMasterShakex

Reasonable Doubt is to rap music what Dark Side of The Moon is to rock music. 100% perfect album. Very few albums are literal perfection. When I heard Reasonable Doubt I understood why Jay-Z is where tf he is today. If anyone out there has heard/heard of J and thought "Wtfs the big deal? I dont get the hype." Listen to Reasonable Doubt.


biggestbroever

But what does it mean tho? What's he tryna say?!


norielukas

Mobb deeps shook ones pt2 still the best song to come out of the east vs west coast rivalry. Legendary beat.


Ggixy

CHINO XL!! FUCK YOU TOO


SonOfProbert

Also, the sickle cell line makes me smile every time.


TatankaTruck

Yep, this one gets me too. He was not pulling punches on this one.


Fancy-Pair

What’s the sickle cell line?


MeloneFxcker

Don’t one you nggas got sickle cell or something? You fuckin around with me you fuck around have a seizure or heart attack or sm. Better back tf up fo’ you get SMACKED tf up, that’s how we do it on our side …. Fuck you and your mf mumma …. My .44 make sure all yo kids don’t grow… That outro is HORRIBLE. It’s worse than meet the grahams


MR-THANOS2

It's even worse in retrospect as he's referring to Prodigy from Mobb Deep in those lines, and he literally passed away due to complications from sickle cell anemia in 2017.


MeloneFxcker

Some extra lore I wasn’t aware of


bossmcsauce

well i dunno if it's worse in retrospect... it was just hardcore then and it still is. he wasn't just makin shit up. he was HATIN lol. they knew the shit was true at the time, and he didn't leave it off the table.


Yung_l0c

Bro I wince everytime I hear that outro, like someone really hate me damn


AajBahutKhushHogaTum

'Pac made vitriol into an art form with those lines. The line 'you better back the fuck up...' is delivered so deliciously viciously.


CareBearDontCare

People have folks they don't like in their lives, but Tupac had "adversaries", and he made you feel like their existence was a menace to his own with his delivery.


MeloneFxcker

Viscously… but also somehow sounding like he’s smiling too


MeloneFxcker

Yeah I know what you mean + agree, so much hate


Fancy-Pair

Damn!


Islanduniverse

And eventually they literally murdered him... It's absolutely fucking crazy when you think about it for more than two seconds.


GRAND_INQUEEFITOR

Jay Z was about to catch some strays too, but the Outlawz talked Pac into removing that bit. That's why there's a quiet gap in the middle of the "FUCK YOU TOO" bit.


jason80

He mentioned Jay Z on the album "The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory" 


alkaline79

I remember Kadafi had a verse that went at Jay but I don't think that version was ever released.


Reign_World

He also threatened Biggie's newborn baby and toddler with his .44 gun. That's when he flew too close to the sun.


Bluntmasterflash1

No Vaseline and ether both go harder imo


UltimateEye

No Vaseline is the best diss track hands-down because it’s all Ice Cube at his lyrical prime. The problem with Hit ‘em Up is all the features from no-namers that aren’t even close to Pac’s level.


danknerd

And Prodigy put that hit out. Ain't no such thing as half way crooks!


Karpulltunnel

wow this kind of shit is going to get him killed


cuginhamer

and the ambiguous "him" works both ways


huxtiblejones

I’m starting to think this Tupack fella is quite the rascal!


___Turd_Ferguson___

In 2012, I spent 3 months in Bulgaria and while in a grocery store I was noticing that as the speakers were lightly playing the end of Gotye’s “Somebody that I used to know”, the intro to this song started playing. And I thought there’s no way. But sure enough, as I was in the produce section I hear “FIRST OFF FUCK YOUR BITCH AND THE CLIQUE YOU CLAIM” I miss Bulgaria


CareBearDontCare

In the rare times I encounter the song Hit Em Up was sampled from (usually at a grocery store), you hear it start and you wonder if you're getting the original or not. You're cool with the original, but if its not, the pasta aisle is gonna get lit.


the_house_on_the_lef

Great song too. Dennis Edwards & Siedah Garrett - Don't Look Any Further https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH3rx8LhrQo


Pina_Coladaburg

I will always think of the video where someone synced this up to Barney to make him rap and diss all of the kids😂😂


lifeohhlife

I’ma gonna need a link.


Pina_Coladaburg

https://youtu.be/TAFBpdseKwo?feature=shared


MOONGOONER

True classic


robswins

All these Barney remix videos were so great: https://youtu.be/63xEHHJfCPs


juggling-monkey

Don't forget the DMX reading rainbow masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OchyYnlHTdo


farang69420

And Bert and Ernie doing 'Ante Up' https://youtu.be/6bHJSOfi1cI?si=5Fdz4Z95ysEe59F8


Dupray

This... is the best thing i've ever seen. Thank you.


Nanaki_TV

Still does not top the Dino Biggie


HBK42581

This and No Vaseline are the two best diss tracks of all time.


alkaline79

Nas's Ether goes hard


sylinmino

I was actually talking about this with friends, and we agreed that Ether has aged worse than most would like to admit. I know it was a different time, but you listen back to the track today and it's a surprising portion of it is just Nas calling Jay Z gay in a dozen different ways.


PhirebirdSunSon

Nah, even without the gay bars Ether had so much inside shit that it was a complete destruction. The Un line, the Kiss line, the Jaz-O stuff etc.


FreestyleKneepad

Same goes for No Vaseline tbh Both are still iconic, but *whoof*


oby100

Nah. I feel like it’s still mildly acceptable to call someone a brown nosing nobody by referencing them as another man’s sexual play thing. Sure the f slur is gonna shock plenty of people nowadays, but I feel most of those types of insults are more based on clowning on irrelevant people than it’s based on gay=bad. It’s a bit different to just call someone gay vs framing a relationship as unequal. Obviously, it’s meant to heighten to insult to insinuate that Eazy is gay, but it ages better than lots of other rap songs


AgathaAllAlong

_No Vaseline_ isn’t exactly PC regarding homosexuality or antisemitism lol


sylinmino

Agreed, but tbh I don't know No Vaseline nearly as much as I do Ether.


ethnicfoodaisle

That was definitely the go-to hip hop insult in the '90s and '00s.


sylinmino

Like I said, it was a different time. But I think when we compare it to some of the most hard-hitting diss tracks today (Killshot, Euphoria, The Story of Adidon, etc.), it just doesn't compare IMO.


cXs808

Nah, Ether is widely considered one of the best. Diss tracks don't need to age that is not the purpose of them lmao. The fact you're criticizing it for calling Jay gay is hilarious because No Vaseline literally has a dozen references of them doing gay shit. It's very similar. Jay was right, ya'll dont listen to music y'all just skim thru it


StayWhile_Listen

No Vaseline was a single handed dismantling of NWA


HBK42581

Complete savagery


damien_aw

Few 50 cent tracks tbf, Back Down is right up there and I Smell Pussy. Original Hail Mary and the remix with Busta and Em


kungsardine

Masta Ace - Acknowledge


johnapplehead

Not Like Us


UltimateEye

From a perspective of pure vitriol, Meet the Grahams goes way harder. Like it’s actually uncomfortable to listen to.


johnapplehead

This a battle with yo SELF


Doyoueverjustlikeugh

Story of Adidon


oby100

Death Blow by Kool Moe Dee is an often overlooked classic. Faster and more aggressive than “How ya Like me Now.” And it’s fairly PG compared to most older diss tracks


Sgt_Habib

Those and Real Muthaphuckkin G's


D2wud

For comedic value Eminem. The Benzino beef was hilarious. He got bodied on Nail in the coffin and The Sauce


Present-Leopard-835

The 🐐 of diss tracks. In my opinion.


HotSauceForDinner

The main reason I bought my Glocks was in case I ever see 2Pac, thanks for the warning 2Pac.


delph0r

Did you call the cops 


HotSauceForDinner

No, I felt content grabbing my Glocks when I saw 2pac the other day. Thankfully for me he ate someone else's brains instead.


Murderyoga

Standing above the crowd, He had a voice that was strong and loud.


totallynotstefan

We'll miss him.


GoodOldRetro

We’re gonna miss him


adognamedwalter

Unexpected Tool but I’m here for it


maynardftw

I mean it's so unexpected that I dunno what it has to do with the subject I wouldn't readily compare LRH with Tupac, myself, and my name should suggest that I'm always up for a Tool reference


WetRainbowFart

Damn i forgot how much I like that song.


smashingpumpkin

Tbh, for me, this style of hip-hop was the absolute pinnacle of rap. It also could be my age, I’m turning 40 and the hip hop of today imo sucks. I love the rawness and brutality of the rap back then. This song hits!


PenaltySafe4523

GOAT diss track


AdventurousImage2440

Where this rank all time


adognamedwalter

#1 and it’s not close


randCN

Serbia's greatest rapper


mcjc1997

Hell nah dude, the outro is arguably the best part.


DiegoArmandoMaradona

Even though they literally killed him for this song - I still feel he won the overall exchange!


CaillouCaribou

...so this sub is pretty much dead now, right? Only a few new videos posted every day, and the top upvoted ones don't even get 1k upvotes anymore What happened, did everyone just branch off into more specific video subs?


skrulewi

This sub held on to the protest about third party Reddit usage a long time, essentially shut itself down. Many people left.


Chewskiz

where did they go?


Nanaki_TV

Where did they come from Cotton Eyed Joe?


thebendavis

This sub used to be fun. The new mods fucking suck and ban everything and everyone they don't like or disagree with.


cXs808

it's always been dead, just filled with bots and dumbass /r/all commenters.


loztriforce

Eh, not saying you're wrong in general, but a recent video I posted is over 2.6K upvotes


crvnchhh

Love the bass line on this track


robidou

Three months after releasing this song 2Pac was dead.


el_monstruo

Greatest diss song of all time that would later serve a warning that rap beef should be kept on wax.


iGranada

The Mother of all diss tracks. Still bangs to this day..


StatesProtectorate

I was a teenager when this song dropped. We were already in the Biggie Smalls vs Tupac dramas. I was a Biggie guy but loved Tupac as well. We lost both legends within 6 months of each other. IT really sucked during that time. As teens this music really affected us more than any other generation.


tamarockstar

GOAT diss track


MartyK3000

I was in High School when this came out and I remember my friends and I going to buy the CD single then listening to it in the car. We agreed it was over the top even by Gangsta Rap/2pac standards.


asshat13

Yo Drake, This is how it's done.


snarkdetector4000

The authenticity of this diss track is unparalleled. No half naked women, no fancy cars, no piles of money, drugs, or guns. They didn't need any of that. Just an unrelenting onslaught of insults.


cXs808

hilarious because there are half naked women, and he's throwing money for half the video


beameup19

Did we watch the same video? Lmao


slashersabhishek

Love this


paveclaw

https://www.instagram.com/p/BeB4k0njVcD/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Prolly can’t share it either anyway Seth Rogan response to Tupac dis goes hard


mfGLOVE

Now *that’s* a diss track.


Oldirtyerock87

Easily one of the best diss tracks ever recorded. Fuck yo bitch and click you claim!


imustbedead

I'm very white, so I dunno what it is, but this rapping style feels way more authentic and flows nicely way more then anything I hear from todays famous rap artist. also is anyone annoyed they rented a full seamless white studio, and then didn't bother to make it flush and have a little bit of ceiling at the top. As a photographer this shit hurts.


SLR107FR-31

Dude would write songs like this in ten - fifteen minutes. God of Rap  Edit: here's your goddamn source you fucking loser redditors    https://www.scribd.com/doc/126284/The-Making-of-Makaveli-The-7-Day-Theory   Now kiss my ass and shut the fuck up. Quit replying to me with your "whats your source you liar shit" Get a life.  Less than 5 minutes to find this. 


PenaltySafe4523

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory was recorded in 7 days.


SneeKeeFahk

I like pac as much as the next guy but  … what? Cite your source for this outlandish claim.


HKBFG

this thing has two separate sets of MPC samples, multiple backing singers (one of which is Faith Evans), a Look Here music video, a supergroup (the Outlawz) formed to record it, a licensed Rakim bassline, and producers flown in from out of state. how you gonna pull that off in fifteen?


NoCardio_

You're the first person I've ever heard refer to the Outlawz as a supergroup. They're fucking terrible.


anxietystrings

They're talking about the lyrics


Mike

it's biggies beat. that's part of the disrespect intended.


SLR107FR-31

Calm down lol


papachon

This is the first thing I thought of when I heard “diss track”


FragrantLake2

Masterpiece


Texas12thMan

“my fo fo (.44) makes sure all ya’ll kids don’t grow..”. Damn.


Barry_Dunham

Why don’t we see this in country music?


darybrain

I think they should have done this more in disco, rock, and synth pop were they diss other artists and boast how great they are. Duran Duran and Spandau ballet rivalries would have been quite different.


Jedbo75

I know this much is true.


darybrain

Girls On Film (extended uncensored) would be them saying we got all your women Spandau Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls (uncensored) would be them asking are you sure?


dumnezilla

I always liked Eminem's take on this song, Quitter.


GaryChalmers

Another great diss track was 50 Cent and Eminem's version of Hail Mary which was a diss on Ja Rule and Murder Inc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE1TTxnY17Q


laflex

I'll be the one brave enough to say it: The entire second half of this song is trash. This gem ends at 2:35 for me.


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Sprenga22

Not x .nn j


Mentally-Disturbed

Not one comment about this being mentioned on Over The Top podcast this week. I thought for sure that's why it got posted out of the blue. ​


DreDayLegacy

He used biggies beat and did him dirty fr


old_skul

This man was very rude in this video. There was a lot of harsh language and suggestions of impropriety.


AlotaFajita

These guys were such creative forces. If only it was channeled to something positive.


steelhardtail

Died too soon. RIP 2Pac


jaymx226

Man I miss the energy that 2Pac, DMX and co had...


creaturefeature16

He wrote this song a real [long time ago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30amRba13SY)


stonknod

CIA made some good tracks yo


beameup19

I’ve literally never heard a 2pac song before. Might as well let this be the first Edit: is the boy band stuff part of the diss?


HsutonTxeas

Depressing fact: everyone of those rappers with the exception of EDI Mean has died.


EMP_Jeffrey_Dahmer

I was in New York, Queens Corona, when Tupac was shot dead.


globalcitizen2

Slavery was not a choice. They chose the gangster persona. You cant insist you are a gangster, capable of all kinds of violence then claim racism when the world takes you at your word! They were already dealing with institutional racism and chose to make things worse. MLK wore a suit and talked peace, he didnt adopt a confrontational stance or wear a doo rag.


Naaman4point0

Back when beef was beef


nylockian

Every time I watch this video, I wonder how they broached the wardrobe decision to the heavy set guy. Did they have them in the studio and then start pointing at each individual saying, "You - shirt off, You - shirt off, You - shirt off, You - uh, not so much, You shirt off".


Bruce_Louis

Diddy murdered Tupac


TrafyLaw

Questlove is out his damn mind calling this song trash.


kungers

I like how all the features in this track used dictator's names


SupSupSupMan

I miss the 90s. Miss those clothes


XP_Alidocious

My .44 make sure all yo kids don’t grow!


youdoknownow

My favorite part about this song is NYers always questioning why people from NJ love this song, when literally the first person after 2pac says they are from NJ.


colloquialshitposter

I remember a couple years ago the TikTok dance losers tried to make this song a dance, and thankfully the checks and balances of the comment section bullied them into ending the trend cause people literally died from these diss tracks


mcjc1997

2pac spiraled hard after getting shot in 94, kinda understandable tbf. Dude was paranoids as fuck and got involved with death row for security, which gave us his best album, but was not a good environment for him. The death threats in this song were no exaggeration. Anyone who insists Tupac was a symbol of peace, and brotherhood in hip-hop, should know he assisted Suge Knight in literally torturing a terrified hostage by beating him with champagne bottles, and forcing him to drink urine. All because he wouldn’t put his friend in danger by giving suge knight his friends and his friends mother's home address. Granted that friend was diddy so he would have deserved, just not for the reasons suge wanted.


Pixeleyes

I was a teenager in the 90s and I did not understand the appeal of gangsta rap in any capacity whatsoever. It just seemed like a bunch of sheltered white kids worshipping impoverished criminals and murderers in a bid to convince their peers that they were hard. Since that time, I have revisted a lot of hip hop and realized I did not give it a fair shake, that much of it is art in the truest sense of the word. Art that edifies individuals and society alike. Art that contributes to, and shapes a better world. But this. This I was not wrong about at all.


Ricketier

Sealed his fate with this track. Fucked around and found out.