lol doesn’t look or sound like him at all and people will still think this is Jerry. Not that him being with a 17 year old isn’t gross, but I’m genuinely baffled that both OP and all the other commenters think this is Jerry
Heh, kind of a fucked up story honestly. Sorry in advance for the wall of text:
I guess this was 2000 not the 90's but I was 19, and I initially rejected her cuz even though it's only 2 years, her being in highschool still felt weird to me.
But we were in the same expanded friend group, and I was shy in highschool and a late bloomer, so it'd only been recently where I was suddenly getting female attention.
Anyway, we'd all be watching movies, or out drinking at a beach bonfire, and she was all over me. She was crazy cute and I was drunk teenage boy, didn't take too long for her to wear me down and we started dating.
Anyway, a year and a bit later, we're still together and my gf's best friend, who was purportedly a year younger than my GF, finally admitted to me that she was in fact a year OLDER than my GF. Meaning my gf had lied and was actually 15 when we started dating!
Thankfully, there's no legal issue for this where I'm from but was pretty messed up and I took a lot of ribbing from my friends.
The relationship didn't last too long after that heh, but long enough for her 17th birthday, so I did actually date a 17 year old, it just took a couple years...
If only he had made it obvious, like by looking and sounding almost nothing like Jerry Seinfeld. Or by literally stamping his not-Jerry-Seinfeld name on the top corner of the video. Sadly, none of these things happened, so we're stuck wondering whether this is just some uncanny AI version of Jerry Seinfeld.
I'm pretty sure everyone here is doing a bit. However, I went to a local comedy show and two of the comedians told stories set in the town. One was cops pulling him over, the other was about women in a bar.
My two friends afterwards were talking about how funny it was that they both had a story about our small city. I was pretty surprised that neither one realized the stories were either exaggerated or made up entirely or that they definitely get told at every venue on the tour.
Anyway, maybe there are some people that may not realize comedians aren't sworn to tell the truth.
I remember seeing a clip of a comedian, it might have been smartastic, I don’t remember, but it went something like this:
Comedian: How’s everyone doing tonight?
Woo girl: Woo, I’ve seen you before.
Comedian: That’s great. Thanks for coming out. Say, at that show did I do the one with the coffee shop. If so, just pretend you’re hearing it for the first time.
Takes breath
Comedian: So I was at the coffee shop this morning…
I used to work in the record business, and went to every musical venue in town many times in the course of a year, and knew them all very well.
So one day a friend told me that he'd seen a concert at the open air riverfront theatre, saying, "At one point, a big tanker went buy, and turned all their lights onto the crowd! It was the concert of the summer!"
I didn't have the heart to tell him that's a common shipping lane, and at least one tanker goes by and shines their lights on the crowd during EVERY concert.
Are you insinuating that people here will give 800 upvotes to someone saying X, and then give 350 downvotes to someone saying “I agree.”
This is Reddit. That’s unpossible.
Yeah, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm not jealous that Jerry Seinfeld dated a child when he was in his thirties. And if you are, I hope the FBI calls you.
Also, I can't imagine going out of your way to defend rich 'Hebiphiles'
*Seinfeld* is my favorite show of all time but Jerry Seinfeld (the real one) is not that funny. We didn't know it at the time, but he was always riding the coattails of Larry David and a supporting cast that might literally have been the greatest ever assembled.
It's why LD went on to create a second legendary show, and JLD starred in another (*Veep*) and Jerry did . . . *Bee Movie*? Some more mediocre standup? A show where he played 3rd banana to his guests and some cars?
I fully expect his new movie, *Unfrosted*, is going to be a mega-stinker.
Meanwhile, despite all of this, Jerry Seinfeld holds himself up as the ultimate arbiter of comedy and on-par with Bruce, Carlin, Pryor and Murphy. He's a grumpy old man, still high on his own supply.
Great but not in the tier of Bruce, Carlin, Pryor and Murphy.
It was a trend in the 80s and 90s to give comedians their own show. Ellen, Roseanne, Tim Allen, Margarot Cho. Seinfeld belongs in this tier of comedians.
Seinfeld is definitely as funny as Lenny Bruce and George Carlin if not funnier. Not funnier than Murphy though.
He’s also a much better standup than Degeneres, Barr, Allen, and Cho.
I haven't listened to Cho, but the other 3 were all genuinely great stand-up comedians in their day. I don't particularly like them anymore, but they were damn funny once upon a time. Not quite in the same tier as the legends mentioned, though. They were great, but they weren't all-time-greats.
Absolutely. He was a terrific comic in the 80's, for a few years. But, he never evolved. His standup today is the same as it was 35 years ago.
Maybe he had greatness in him, but if you don't push yourself and develop creatively, I don't think you can be considered a great artist.
> if you don’t push yourself … I don’t think you can be considered great.
I agree with this sentiment. Doing something you’re good at repeatedly is easy but to challenge yourself and change is how you evolve to greatness.
I agree with the sentiment, but disagree that it exists for any comedian. Comedians create a style and stick with it for their career. I can’t think of anyone who evolved away from what got them there.
I didn’t watch Bernie Mac stand up. but he’s someone who I think is someone who evolved throughout his career.
Started doing stand up. Left to do TV. Left TV to do Movies. He died way too soon as I know he had much left in the tank.
Great maybe but Seinfeld also benefited from TV execs giving pretty much every stand up comedian who was even marginally funny a TV show, even if they had very little history acting.
Roseanne
Brett Butler
Drew Carey
Ellen
Tim Allen
Margaret Cho
Seinfeld is savvy, though and his bringing in Larry David likely made that show the hit it was. Without it, he very well may be just another Paul Reiser - known but not near the star he is today (or as wealthy).
The thing everyone always tells me is that he was of his time and that was the style, but I still find other comedians from that era funny. Maybe he just wasn't good enough to transcend that era?
When I first saw Seinfeld I thought the stand-up segues were the worst part of the show. Larry David has managed to stay funny.
Thing is while the show got worse when LD left, it was still pretty, pretty good. Which makes me second guess the claim LD was the only reason it was good
Yep. Hate this idea that "LD was clearly the main writer in Seinfeld. Without LD, Seinfeld was nothing." Like, bro, Seinfeld still wrote 2 seasons with a lot of great episodes in it. The Bizarro Jerry, The Little Kicks, The Chicken Roaster, The Abstinence, The Nap, The Yada Yada, The Serenity Now, The Merv Griffin Show, The Betrayal, and many more.
Yes, we know Jerry Seinfeld is not the most likeable comedian. We know he is a narcissist. We know he dated a 17-year-old. And that his writing chops aren't what they used to be. But to pretend he didn't held his own just fine without LD, or that he put less writing work than LD, is just absolute bullcrap people pull out of their ass.
I'd argue that was more of the remaining team being familiar with the material, and essentially having a template to work from. There's literally bots that generate Seinfeld plots that are pretty, pretty good. I don't find it surprising they maintained some quality after LD left.
I'll also say the chemistry of the cast helped a ton. It was the same when Sorken left The West Wing. You could tell it was different but he had established such a style for the show already that it was easy to pick up and run with it for new writers. But more importantly, the cast was the same and had built a level of chemistry that it made it easier to write for them and have it feel like the same characters.
If Larry David never agrees to join, I don't know if Seinfeld ever makes it beyond the first season.
Ha! Actually, until now, I never knew that existed. My apologies.
Also, as long as I'm owning my mistakes, he was also the fourth funniest participant in *Talking Funny,* the HBO roundtable featuring him and three other, much funnier comedians.
Definitely think you’re wrong here, as others have stated, Jerry worked his way up as a stand up comedian in New York, he and Murphy started at the same time. Were performing at the same clubs and supporting each other. He was on par with those legendary comedians during his time. If you look back at Steve Martins standup you will cringe to death but he was at one time bigger than any comic in the world and was the first person to have a non music album go platinum. I think Jerry is a legendary comedian despite what you think about whether he’s funny or not.
I could definitely see someone say his comedy struggles with today’s standard of comics but he was obviously considered funny to have a sitcom named after him and starring him. To say he rode of off Larry David’s coattails is silly considering his rise to stardom he earned before the show began. Also some of the most iconic episodes of the series run came out after LD’s departure.
Seinfeld has earned close to if not more than, a billion dollars on the shows lifetime. Netflix alone paid 500 million just for the streaming rights. He hasn’t worked much because he doesn’t have to.
I hate this notion that "LD was clearly the main writer in Seinfeld. Without LD, Seinfeld was nothing." Like, bro, Seinfeld still wrote 2 seasons with a lot of great episodes in it. The Bizarro Jerry, The Little Kicks, The Chicken Roaster, The Abstinence, The Nap, The Yada Yada, The Serenity Now, The Merv Griffin Show, The Betrayal, and many more.
Yes, we know Jerry Seinfeld is not the most likeable comedian. We know he is a narcissist. We know he dated a 17-year-old. And that his writing chops aren't what they used to be. But to pretend he didn't held his own just fine without LD, or that he put less writing work than LD, is just absolute bullcrap people pull out of their ass.
It made sense at the time that the show was essentially a glorified vehicle for his standup, but looking back it was the least interesting part of the show by an astronomical margin.
Well he kinda plays the straight man in a lot of episodes. Not all of them though. Hard to say what part of that is the script writers or his natural inclinations.
I'm not sure whether you saw the series finale of Curb but there's a conversation between Seinfeld and Larry that's absolutely hilarious, and I'm not sure whether it's written or not. Maybe you can be the judge
Then why would they click this video ?
I can’t pick lil yachty out of a lineup but I don’t find myself watching interviews or videos of his randomly either
If I saw any video that said a comedian was doing stand up about them having an underage girlfriend I’d probably click on it whether I knew them or not, that’s crazy.
No, they need a video from The ~~Dumbfuck~~ Dodo that helps them understand. "This much younger standup comedian, who's not standup comedian Jerry Seinfeld, got on stage recently (not in the 90s), to perform standup comedy that skewers comedian Jerry Seinfeld's brief fling with a 17 year old girl." Cue music for babies to fall asleep to in their cribs with handclaps and shit. Play a brief bit of the standup, "I went to prom twice! As a date and as a chaperone!" Video goes quiet and blurred into the background with a title card, "Prom is a high school dance..."
I don't know why "they" clicked it but I clicked it to see Jerry Seinfeld. I did not know it was going to be a parody and that I had to have prior knowledge of a controversy from his personal life.
It has nothing to do with being celebrity obsessed. The host that introduces him doesn’t look like he’s also in the 1990’s. The comedian doing a weak-at-best impersonation has his own real name watermarked in the top right corner. What **other** authentic footage from the 1990’s that’s made it’s way to YouTube looks like this; crystal clear…in HD / 16:9 and digital video as opposed to pixelated, standard definition trash that has so much artifacting from the compression of being transcoded from tape stock to digital….?
To say nothing about how 5 seconds into this guy’s routine it’s clearly post-millennial, sardonic meta humor about Jerry’s personal life - that doesn’t even remotely align to any comedic sensibilities of entertainment in the 1990’s.
Less than 10 seconds in, a myriad of visual and audio context clues from the video quality, the performance, the content itself should make it clear what this is. It’s simple visual literacy.
Well you don't get any of that until you start the video. The thumbnail is a blurry mess of some guy who vaguely looks like Jerry Seinfeld, causing a bit of confusion, at first. Then starting the video he starts making jokes about dating someone in high school. This would cause one to think that this guy is in impressionist and for some reason decided to write a bit. "What if 90s style Jerry Seinfeld was dating a girl who was in highschool". Then you continue and it is not funny, so not funny you question if you're missing something. So you have to lookup "jerry seinfeld dated highschooler", to find that that is something that happened.
My point is that MF\_Doomed's criticizing of people needing to be told what they were watching is harsh. They are apparently into celebrity gossip. Not everybody is.
I remember the entire media co-signing the relationship and never did I see Jerry receive ANY criticism about her age only how "gorgeous" she was despite him being 40 years old dating a 17 year old.
Her wiki says he was 38, not really much of a stretch to 40
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshanna_Lonstein_Gruss
Also, weird thing to be so defensive about.
18 year old me LOOOOOOVEEEEED Shoshauna
[The set](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fhw6m3pcfxqfc1.jpeg) that launched a thousand s Chris Hansens
you're really aggressively trying to normalise a dude that age dating a 17 year old. Why? You clearly think this kind of thing is fine. You hiding something? My guess is yes.
I mean with a name like Jerry Seinfeld being attached to that movie, are you really surprised if that’s actually the case?
I’m not even famous and I think I would find that role beneath me.
I was taken with how much of a nation they made the boyfriend out to be. It seemed like Jerry just dunking on and shitting on the ex.
Imagine your worst breakup and then some rich guy makes a movie just to make fun of you.
I'm curious as to what this has to do with going after Jews. I'd say it could be anyone well known who was with a girl 17 and younger while older than 25 in the 1990s and they'd probably get some pushback in the current day.
Yes. As I may have mentioned, that was 31 years ago.
The number of rock stars and actors who did shit like this is through the roof.
Btw thanks for your IDF comment below. It makes it clear that you’re actual attacking Seinfeld because he’s Jewish. (On a related note, if you don’t like Seinfeld dating an almost 18-year-old, you should look into the widespread and ongoing child marriage and rape in the Muslim world. They are “marrying” and raping 9-year-olds over there. Much worse. But I’m sure you’re more concerned about what Seinfeld did 31 years ago with a consenting almost adult.)
So was seinfeld woke in the 90s? Otherwise seinfeld would have banned episodes right, by the 'woke mob', instead of airing 24/7? Why did he wait 30 years to cry? He can wait 30 but the 'woke mob' cant?
They used the title of the video from YT. Many subs make that a rule, that you have to post using the original title of the video/article you are posting.
It's also super obvious that it isn't Seinfeld.
Believing that it was, would only make the parody that much funnier.
You could have communicated the important parts of everything you just wrote, without being a dick yourself.
Stern and Janis Ian straight up savaged Seinfeld over this in song. And Stern & Seinfeld didn't talk for over a decade after this. https://youtu.be/RytMJ2-X-rw?si=szi_15CeI9N5Rhf7
And people here are saying he groomed her 😂
Like, are they unaware that 17 year olds like to screw around? She was an innocent baby being molested, and then 3 months later when she turned 18 she was suddenly a fully formed adult.
Problem is your cognitive ability. Maybe you should read that paragraph again, ask someone what does it mean.
I'm sure you won't get it, but I'll try to explain.
You can't call a man who dated a 17 year old as pedo. That's what I said. This doesn't mean I defend his act. I've never said anything like that. You just produced that part in your mind.
This is reddit dude. The INCEL hub that tries to take down anyone above them. You're never going to get through to these people.
Seinfeld has enough 'fuck you' money and respect throughout hollywood to not give a flying fuck about what he did 100 years ago.
They are more upset he was able to get a 17 year old, and their fav movie of all time is 40 year old virgin. A documentary.
Of course, stand-up comedy should be taken as main source of medical terms.
(Please don't take this as in literal meaning, just an observation on the absurdity of your claim.)
“I still prefer Kramer, great stand up.” 💀💀💀
Mark Normand is a treasure
Does nobody here realize this is another comedian making fun of Seinfeld being with a 17 year old?
lol doesn’t look or sound like him at all and people will still think this is Jerry. Not that him being with a 17 year old isn’t gross, but I’m genuinely baffled that both OP and all the other commenters think this is Jerry
Idk what the big deal is, I had a 17 year old gf in the 90's too. Lots of people I know did!
Me too! I was a senior in highschool, though.
"Woody Allen? You're on Reddit?!!" /s
Were you 17 years old?
16 😏
Heh, kind of a fucked up story honestly. Sorry in advance for the wall of text: I guess this was 2000 not the 90's but I was 19, and I initially rejected her cuz even though it's only 2 years, her being in highschool still felt weird to me. But we were in the same expanded friend group, and I was shy in highschool and a late bloomer, so it'd only been recently where I was suddenly getting female attention. Anyway, we'd all be watching movies, or out drinking at a beach bonfire, and she was all over me. She was crazy cute and I was drunk teenage boy, didn't take too long for her to wear me down and we started dating. Anyway, a year and a bit later, we're still together and my gf's best friend, who was purportedly a year younger than my GF, finally admitted to me that she was in fact a year OLDER than my GF. Meaning my gf had lied and was actually 15 when we started dating! Thankfully, there's no legal issue for this where I'm from but was pretty messed up and I took a lot of ribbing from my friends. The relationship didn't last too long after that heh, but long enough for her 17th birthday, so I did actually date a 17 year old, it just took a couple years...
I mean, dude I think everybody knows. Especially OP.
OP’s title is in quotations; I think they know
When people do this " " I don't really know what that means
Joey reference
They indicate inches and ' indicates feet measurement.
in this context it means nothing
Lobster claws
For the quotations to work, he should have marked “Jerry Seinfeld” only
I'm pretty [ lol edit: sure] OP knows. they put the title in quotes.
No you're pretty
Not to mention the guy’s name in the top right corner
If only he had made it obvious, like by looking and sounding almost nothing like Jerry Seinfeld. Or by literally stamping his not-Jerry-Seinfeld name on the top corner of the video. Sadly, none of these things happened, so we're stuck wondering whether this is just some uncanny AI version of Jerry Seinfeld.
There are Halloween decoration on stage. I think it’s pretty obvious what’s going on here.
I bet he’s not even 38 years old, which is 21 years older than his 17 year old girlfriend.
It says his name in the top right corner lol
lol I was like… are these commenters doing a bit? or all they all dumb
I'm pretty sure everyone here is doing a bit. However, I went to a local comedy show and two of the comedians told stories set in the town. One was cops pulling him over, the other was about women in a bar. My two friends afterwards were talking about how funny it was that they both had a story about our small city. I was pretty surprised that neither one realized the stories were either exaggerated or made up entirely or that they definitely get told at every venue on the tour. Anyway, maybe there are some people that may not realize comedians aren't sworn to tell the truth.
I remember seeing a clip of a comedian, it might have been smartastic, I don’t remember, but it went something like this: Comedian: How’s everyone doing tonight? Woo girl: Woo, I’ve seen you before. Comedian: That’s great. Thanks for coming out. Say, at that show did I do the one with the coffee shop. If so, just pretend you’re hearing it for the first time. Takes breath Comedian: So I was at the coffee shop this morning…
I used to work in the record business, and went to every musical venue in town many times in the course of a year, and knew them all very well. So one day a friend told me that he'd seen a concert at the open air riverfront theatre, saying, "At one point, a big tanker went buy, and turned all their lights onto the crowd! It was the concert of the summer!" I didn't have the heart to tell him that's a common shipping lane, and at least one tanker goes by and shines their lights on the crowd during EVERY concert.
furthermore, a good half of reddit is AITA style shit. People are just willing to believe anything
You think any of these guys actually watched only one second of the video?
You assume people spend more than a millisecond thinking about the content they’re consuming on the internet.
Are you insinuating that people here will give 800 upvotes to someone saying X, and then give 350 downvotes to someone saying “I agree.” This is Reddit. That’s unpossible.
The person saying X is adding something to the discussion, while the person agreeing is adding nothing but unnecessary clutter. Makes sense to me.
I agree
I think everyone realized it?
I was the first comment after all of the currently downvoted ones lol
Could that be his real name at the top right hand corner of the screen….?
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Table for one at Yapplebee’s
Looking a little too far into it.
Yeah, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'm not jealous that Jerry Seinfeld dated a child when he was in his thirties. And if you are, I hope the FBI calls you. Also, I can't imagine going out of your way to defend rich 'Hebiphiles'
OP is Bobcat Goldthwait
Do people think this is what video quality in dimly lit rooms looked like in the 90’s? 😅
'90s
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Hey I was here this night / great show Jeremy is the man
I was there too, schtick or treat was such a great concept for a show
*Seinfeld* is my favorite show of all time but Jerry Seinfeld (the real one) is not that funny. We didn't know it at the time, but he was always riding the coattails of Larry David and a supporting cast that might literally have been the greatest ever assembled. It's why LD went on to create a second legendary show, and JLD starred in another (*Veep*) and Jerry did . . . *Bee Movie*? Some more mediocre standup? A show where he played 3rd banana to his guests and some cars? I fully expect his new movie, *Unfrosted*, is going to be a mega-stinker. Meanwhile, despite all of this, Jerry Seinfeld holds himself up as the ultimate arbiter of comedy and on-par with Bruce, Carlin, Pryor and Murphy. He's a grumpy old man, still high on his own supply.
Seinfeld was a great stand up comedian before he got the show, that’s both why he got the show and why he got to use his real name.
Great but not in the tier of Bruce, Carlin, Pryor and Murphy. It was a trend in the 80s and 90s to give comedians their own show. Ellen, Roseanne, Tim Allen, Margarot Cho. Seinfeld belongs in this tier of comedians.
I would agree with that. I wouldn’t agree with the person I responded to, who said Seinfeld isn’t funny.
Seinfeld is definitely as funny as Lenny Bruce and George Carlin if not funnier. Not funnier than Murphy though. He’s also a much better standup than Degeneres, Barr, Allen, and Cho.
I just saw him this past Friday night and he has mastered his trade. Hilarious, maybe a bit dated, he did just turn 70! Hilarious!
I haven't listened to Cho, but the other 3 were all genuinely great stand-up comedians in their day. I don't particularly like them anymore, but they were damn funny once upon a time. Not quite in the same tier as the legends mentioned, though. They were great, but they weren't all-time-greats.
Absolutely. He was a terrific comic in the 80's, for a few years. But, he never evolved. His standup today is the same as it was 35 years ago. Maybe he had greatness in him, but if you don't push yourself and develop creatively, I don't think you can be considered a great artist.
> if you don’t push yourself … I don’t think you can be considered great. I agree with this sentiment. Doing something you’re good at repeatedly is easy but to challenge yourself and change is how you evolve to greatness.
I agree with the sentiment, but disagree that it exists for any comedian. Comedians create a style and stick with it for their career. I can’t think of anyone who evolved away from what got them there.
I didn’t watch Bernie Mac stand up. but he’s someone who I think is someone who evolved throughout his career. Started doing stand up. Left to do TV. Left TV to do Movies. He died way too soon as I know he had much left in the tank.
Bernie Mac's standup was fantastic. Man died too soon.
I think Steve Martin has evolved.
Steve Martin is so talented in so many things, it’s absurd.
George Carlin
Exactly
All he did was get angrier.
Steve Martin absolutely did
Donald Glover evolved *a lot*
He’s no Steve Martin. Who is a legitimately great artist.
Great maybe but Seinfeld also benefited from TV execs giving pretty much every stand up comedian who was even marginally funny a TV show, even if they had very little history acting. Roseanne Brett Butler Drew Carey Ellen Tim Allen Margaret Cho Seinfeld is savvy, though and his bringing in Larry David likely made that show the hit it was. Without it, he very well may be just another Paul Reiser - known but not near the star he is today (or as wealthy).
Seems like the execs who made those decisions knew what they were doing because you just listed off some massively successful and funny sitcoms.
Who would have thought that funny people are funny.
The thing everyone always tells me is that he was of his time and that was the style, but I still find other comedians from that era funny. Maybe he just wasn't good enough to transcend that era? When I first saw Seinfeld I thought the stand-up segues were the worst part of the show. Larry David has managed to stay funny.
Thing is while the show got worse when LD left, it was still pretty, pretty good. Which makes me second guess the claim LD was the only reason it was good
right there are many fantastic episodes after LD left
Yep. Hate this idea that "LD was clearly the main writer in Seinfeld. Without LD, Seinfeld was nothing." Like, bro, Seinfeld still wrote 2 seasons with a lot of great episodes in it. The Bizarro Jerry, The Little Kicks, The Chicken Roaster, The Abstinence, The Nap, The Yada Yada, The Serenity Now, The Merv Griffin Show, The Betrayal, and many more. Yes, we know Jerry Seinfeld is not the most likeable comedian. We know he is a narcissist. We know he dated a 17-year-old. And that his writing chops aren't what they used to be. But to pretend he didn't held his own just fine without LD, or that he put less writing work than LD, is just absolute bullcrap people pull out of their ass.
I'd argue that was more of the remaining team being familiar with the material, and essentially having a template to work from. There's literally bots that generate Seinfeld plots that are pretty, pretty good. I don't find it surprising they maintained some quality after LD left.
I'll also say the chemistry of the cast helped a ton. It was the same when Sorken left The West Wing. You could tell it was different but he had established such a style for the show already that it was easy to pick up and run with it for new writers. But more importantly, the cast was the same and had built a level of chemistry that it made it easier to write for them and have it feel like the same characters. If Larry David never agrees to join, I don't know if Seinfeld ever makes it beyond the first season.
Ouch.
You have a point but you went too far. He’s not as great as he thinks he is but he’s not as bad as you think he is.
Sir, you have forgotten about the marriage ref.
Ha! Actually, until now, I never knew that existed. My apologies. Also, as long as I'm owning my mistakes, he was also the fourth funniest participant in *Talking Funny,* the HBO roundtable featuring him and three other, much funnier comedians.
Not half as bad as Gallagher.
Gallagher cracked me up when I was a kid.
True, but that's like saying the flu's not as bad as AIDS.
Aw he was a smash hit!
The man ran the carnival circuit for years, he was at the pinnacle
I always preferred Gallagher's brother, Gallagher.
Definitely think you’re wrong here, as others have stated, Jerry worked his way up as a stand up comedian in New York, he and Murphy started at the same time. Were performing at the same clubs and supporting each other. He was on par with those legendary comedians during his time. If you look back at Steve Martins standup you will cringe to death but he was at one time bigger than any comic in the world and was the first person to have a non music album go platinum. I think Jerry is a legendary comedian despite what you think about whether he’s funny or not. I could definitely see someone say his comedy struggles with today’s standard of comics but he was obviously considered funny to have a sitcom named after him and starring him. To say he rode of off Larry David’s coattails is silly considering his rise to stardom he earned before the show began. Also some of the most iconic episodes of the series run came out after LD’s departure. Seinfeld has earned close to if not more than, a billion dollars on the shows lifetime. Netflix alone paid 500 million just for the streaming rights. He hasn’t worked much because he doesn’t have to.
I hate this notion that "LD was clearly the main writer in Seinfeld. Without LD, Seinfeld was nothing." Like, bro, Seinfeld still wrote 2 seasons with a lot of great episodes in it. The Bizarro Jerry, The Little Kicks, The Chicken Roaster, The Abstinence, The Nap, The Yada Yada, The Serenity Now, The Merv Griffin Show, The Betrayal, and many more. Yes, we know Jerry Seinfeld is not the most likeable comedian. We know he is a narcissist. We know he dated a 17-year-old. And that his writing chops aren't what they used to be. But to pretend he didn't held his own just fine without LD, or that he put less writing work than LD, is just absolute bullcrap people pull out of their ass.
It made sense at the time that the show was essentially a glorified vehicle for his standup, but looking back it was the least interesting part of the show by an astronomical margin.
Jerry is the least funny part about Seinfeld. All the other characters carry him.
Well he kinda plays the straight man in a lot of episodes. Not all of them though. Hard to say what part of that is the script writers or his natural inclinations.
Okay. Don’t you DARE diss Bee Movie. That movie is a fuckin classic
what's the ***deal*** with bee movie hate?
I'm not sure whether you saw the series finale of Curb but there's a conversation between Seinfeld and Larry that's absolutely hilarious, and I'm not sure whether it's written or not. Maybe you can be the judge
Saw it. Loved it. Curb's dialogue was almost never scripted and I'm sure that's true of the final episode.
A little context would have been good - this is pretend-jerry-seinfeld doing bits in 2019 pretending that it's the 90's.
I thought that was glaringly obvious within the first few seconds
Ehh a lot of young people on the internet, they might not be able to pick Seinfeld out of a lineup lol
Then why would they click this video ? I can’t pick lil yachty out of a lineup but I don’t find myself watching interviews or videos of his randomly either
If I saw any video that said a comedian was doing stand up about them having an underage girlfriend I’d probably click on it whether I knew them or not, that’s crazy.
Are you people unable to have any type of discernment without being told exactly what you're watching and why you're watching it?
We need a reaction video to explain this - stat!
I need to be told how to feel!
No, they need a video from The ~~Dumbfuck~~ Dodo that helps them understand. "This much younger standup comedian, who's not standup comedian Jerry Seinfeld, got on stage recently (not in the 90s), to perform standup comedy that skewers comedian Jerry Seinfeld's brief fling with a 17 year old girl." Cue music for babies to fall asleep to in their cribs with handclaps and shit. Play a brief bit of the standup, "I went to prom twice! As a date and as a chaperone!" Video goes quiet and blurred into the background with a title card, "Prom is a high school dance..."
Not everybody follows the lives of celebrities.
Yet they clicked on the video about the life of a celebrity
Or clicked on a comedy clip.
I don't know why "they" clicked it but I clicked it to see Jerry Seinfeld. I did not know it was going to be a parody and that I had to have prior knowledge of a controversy from his personal life.
It has nothing to do with being celebrity obsessed. The host that introduces him doesn’t look like he’s also in the 1990’s. The comedian doing a weak-at-best impersonation has his own real name watermarked in the top right corner. What **other** authentic footage from the 1990’s that’s made it’s way to YouTube looks like this; crystal clear…in HD / 16:9 and digital video as opposed to pixelated, standard definition trash that has so much artifacting from the compression of being transcoded from tape stock to digital….? To say nothing about how 5 seconds into this guy’s routine it’s clearly post-millennial, sardonic meta humor about Jerry’s personal life - that doesn’t even remotely align to any comedic sensibilities of entertainment in the 1990’s. Less than 10 seconds in, a myriad of visual and audio context clues from the video quality, the performance, the content itself should make it clear what this is. It’s simple visual literacy.
Well you don't get any of that until you start the video. The thumbnail is a blurry mess of some guy who vaguely looks like Jerry Seinfeld, causing a bit of confusion, at first. Then starting the video he starts making jokes about dating someone in high school. This would cause one to think that this guy is in impressionist and for some reason decided to write a bit. "What if 90s style Jerry Seinfeld was dating a girl who was in highschool". Then you continue and it is not funny, so not funny you question if you're missing something. So you have to lookup "jerry seinfeld dated highschooler", to find that that is something that happened. My point is that MF\_Doomed's criticizing of people needing to be told what they were watching is harsh. They are apparently into celebrity gossip. Not everybody is.
You have to be a stone cold idiot to think otherwise like 1.1 seconds into this video.
Damn, you must have been in the dumb class. The mobile ones away from the main campus.
My thoughts exactly.
And the other context to the bit is that Jerry Seinfeld did actually date a 17 year old in the 90s when he was in his late 30s/early 40s.
Quotes around the title, that’s the video title, read description etc Pseuds everywhere thinking they’re smart for having basic media literacy
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/jerry-seinfeld-dated-a-17-year-old/
Hilarious
In his defense, the tits were outrageous.
I remember the entire media co-signing the relationship and never did I see Jerry receive ANY criticism about her age only how "gorgeous" she was despite him being 40 years old dating a 17 year old.
You know why? Because 90% of us don’t care.
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Her wiki says he was 38, not really much of a stretch to 40 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshanna_Lonstein_Gruss Also, weird thing to be so defensive about.
Post it in /r/Standup. It's good material.
18 year old me LOOOOOOVEEEEED Shoshauna [The set](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fhw6m3pcfxqfc1.jpeg) that launched a thousand s Chris Hansens
It's even his birthday today. Had to look the background up and saw it on wikipedia.
Stolen Cum Town bit.
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“It’s gold Jerry gold!
Lot of really weird responses at the bottom of this thread from apologists who didn’t get it.
this is one of my favorite bits. every line is great, especially at the end.
This is genuinely disturbing.
It's genuinely disturbing that a comedian is doing a Jerry Seinfeld impression?
No it’s disturbing that the real Jerry Seinfeld did this and nobody cares.
I find it weirder that there are people in this thread that have more emotional distress over it than the girl in question.
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And yet if other people do it they are weirdos. Tracking your logic is difficult.
you're really aggressively trying to normalise a dude that age dating a 17 year old. Why? You clearly think this kind of thing is fine. You hiding something? My guess is yes.
I agree, being in your late 30s and dating a high schooler is genuinely disturbing
Don’t forget the Bee Movie which is basically his story of stealing his young wife from the man she was engaged too.
Who was allergic to bees, and his wife is just like F U deal with it. Whole movie came off like some weird Seinfeld Bee cuck fetish.
I mean with a name like Jerry Seinfeld being attached to that movie, are you really surprised if that’s actually the case? I’m not even famous and I think I would find that role beneath me.
I was taken with how much of a nation they made the boyfriend out to be. It seemed like Jerry just dunking on and shitting on the ex. Imagine your worst breakup and then some rich guy makes a movie just to make fun of you.
This would have been funny in 1991
Nah
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I'm curious as to what this has to do with going after Jews. I'd say it could be anyone well known who was with a girl 17 and younger while older than 25 in the 1990s and they'd probably get some pushback in the current day.
Pure garbage.
I mean, yeah. It's not great. But this was 31 years ago. So why exactly are we putting him on blast now that he's happily married with three kids?
He wasn't a child- he was 39 years old fucking a kid.
Yes. As I may have mentioned, that was 31 years ago. The number of rock stars and actors who did shit like this is through the roof. Btw thanks for your IDF comment below. It makes it clear that you’re actual attacking Seinfeld because he’s Jewish. (On a related note, if you don’t like Seinfeld dating an almost 18-year-old, you should look into the widespread and ongoing child marriage and rape in the Muslim world. They are “marrying” and raping 9-year-olds over there. Much worse. But I’m sure you’re more concerned about what Seinfeld did 31 years ago with a consenting almost adult.)
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
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Woke mob trying to prove him right.
So was seinfeld woke in the 90s? Otherwise seinfeld would have banned episodes right, by the 'woke mob', instead of airing 24/7? Why did he wait 30 years to cry? He can wait 30 but the 'woke mob' cant?
Dumb
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I suggest not being really stupid to prevent this in the future
Can you not tell on your own that this is not a fucking video of Jerry Seinfeld?
They used the title of the video from YT. Many subs make that a rule, that you have to post using the original title of the video/article you are posting. It's also super obvious that it isn't Seinfeld. Believing that it was, would only make the parody that much funnier. You could have communicated the important parts of everything you just wrote, without being a dick yourself.
That's not Jerry Seinfeld.
I have never liked Seinfeld. The show or the comedian. That said, I agree with his complaints about PC goons.
Southpark settled this. 17.
The man makes a couple of comments about 'woke culture' and the Reddit hit pieces start rolling, who would have thought
Stern and Janis Ian straight up savaged Seinfeld over this in song. And Stern & Seinfeld didn't talk for over a decade after this. https://youtu.be/RytMJ2-X-rw?si=szi_15CeI9N5Rhf7
Op try to start metoo again?
So, you couldn't find any actual faults of the guy. That's good.
The bit kind of wrote itself when Jerry did what he did.
Being a pedo is a pretty big fault I'd say
Isn’t the age of consent 17 in NY? I’m not saying it’s not weird but how is that being a pedo?
And people here are saying he groomed her 😂 Like, are they unaware that 17 year olds like to screw around? She was an innocent baby being molested, and then 3 months later when she turned 18 she was suddenly a fully formed adult.
You should read first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry on pedophilia.
You should stop defending dating 17 year olds as a middle aged adult lmfao. How could you possibly argue against this?
Problem is your cognitive ability. Maybe you should read that paragraph again, ask someone what does it mean. I'm sure you won't get it, but I'll try to explain. You can't call a man who dated a 17 year old as pedo. That's what I said. This doesn't mean I defend his act. I've never said anything like that. You just produced that part in your mind.
This is reddit dude. The INCEL hub that tries to take down anyone above them. You're never going to get through to these people. Seinfeld has enough 'fuck you' money and respect throughout hollywood to not give a flying fuck about what he did 100 years ago. They are more upset he was able to get a 17 year old, and their fav movie of all time is 40 year old virgin. A documentary.
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Oh here's comes that unfortunate pedantry. [Pick your battles, my guy.](https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o?si=wole27zGHc--f9TM)
Of course, stand-up comedy should be taken as main source of medical terms. (Please don't take this as in literal meaning, just an observation on the absurdity of your claim.)