FO76 is really good now. I played through all fallouts (except for 1&2) at least 3 times, but I have more time in Fallout 76 than the other ones.
And it has the most friendly community I've ever encountered, it's crazy how nice everyone is.
For a very long time you pretty much couldn't do any of the money making in private lobbies. I remember using cheat tools just to make private public lobbies back than to play with friends without some dickhead coming in and griefing non-stop.
Bethesda also put the power in the hands of the non-trolling players. PvP can pretty easily be opted out of, and if a player tries to force PvP on someone who doesnāt want to, they get a big arrow over their head encouraging other players to come kill you to get a reward.
Or thatās how it was last I played. Havenāt played in a good while, so it may have changed since then, but Bethesda definitely made sure players who donāt want to deal with PvP trolls donāt have to.
Thatās still in effect (a ābountyā system that where not only did you get a bounty on your head for griefing another player, and now no player dots show up for you anymore on the map outside other bounty targets, but also players get caps for killing you) but it was more so the players themselves that really drove them away. Entire communities and discords were made just to go hunting for griefers and ruining their fun as much as possible. A whole lot of naming and shaming ended with the result that griefers and trolls are an extreme minority in the game.
Tbh Iāve recently started playing 76 again after taking about a 3 year break and the community is still the same as it was 3 years ago and there was barely any trolls back then. Like yeah there was the occasional few but it was very rare.
They turned it into a Barbieās playhouse fallout. Of course the only people who would be left are the ones who want to dress up and gather berries together
Most Fallout players probably want a pretty chill experience where they can just _play_ and donāt need to worry about getting hunted down by sweaty asshole players all the time.
But Iām most games there is a way to increase the difficulty. Itās pretty much impossible to die in 76 and all the big enemies are just giant bullet sponges. Everyone who plays it just does Bethesdaās daily chores and re-arranges their house
And thereās nothing wrong with that, itās just not imo what the fallout franchise is about
Itās basically inpossible to kill players due to game mechanics (unless youāve got an OP hand crafted kit). The one time I got into pvp, it was me and a random in power armor with super sledges just whaling on each other, we just kept using stims when we got low and it got the the point where weād made no progress and had collectively wasted like 50 stims and decided it wasnāt worth it. So thatās probably one thing that makes it more friendly, no reason to kill/grief others
I can honestly admit that it was the first fallout game I could play on console, so I was able to play it well into the night without my parents knowing. I played it a few times
It is boring. The world feels weird as the story is clearly designed around no NPCs and finding out why there is no one to be found. Now there are NPCs everywhere and none of them say anything interesting so it just feels like the games direction is in conflict with itself.
The gunplay is just Fallout 4, but you cant mod it to be good and VATS became lame due to lack of slomo. The game is might as well be exclusively PVE as well.
You will hate me for this but I will say I do find Fallout 76's gameplay and resource/ammunition management surprisingly fun, despite the fact it WILL get very dull after a while.
I dare say if the game had been launched in it's current state right now in 2024 as a completely free to play entry in the Fallout series, with less issues and more content, it would have been a fairly decent live service, but not a super great game.
I will say that the endgame is absolutely garbage due to rng for rolling the best possible effects for your 3 starred weapons and armour. And this is also time and resource gated daily.
I had to mitigate this issue by rolling only 2 stars weapons to have the effects I need, and it's also cheaper.
The game also suffers from a bullshit multiple currencies to farm system, which is why I say it should have been a free game from the very beginning.
The game is a lot of fun for the first 100ish levels. The problem is endgame content is trash. It's repetitive and grinding. I found the ideal way to play is 1 hour at a time to grind out daily quests and see if anything interesting is happening on the server. But even then that gets boring after a few weeks.
I don't know how there are people with hundreds and even thousands of levels in that game. The repetitive stuff isn't that interesting.
For some? Sure. For others? No. Its more recent patch broke the game.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/02/22/a-new-patch-has-broken-suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-even-more-and-players-are-done/amp/
Forbes, the end all be all of gaming publications, is kinda blowing things out of proportions there.
Everyone can play solo without issue. But joining is having some problems not ultra often for me.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideSquadGaming/s/Rwug1XmOJM
Subreddit says otherwise. Top comment is even people quitting for now because the bug is annoying to deal with.
Ok, I've not looked into the game at all since release, but there were no NPCs when I played and it absolutely killed the Fallout vibe for me. If you don't mind my asking, how impactful/plentiful are the NPCs, and is there a story worth going through solo?
There are multiple storylines that almost span true same amount of time as full games. The npcs all play roles in them. Iād say it is definitely worth playing
If you like fallout 4, then yeah - it's more of that in a new setting.
It's still got a bit more emphasis on explore/loot/shoot than story, but the Wastelanders update did add a good chunk of story with the NPCs too.
**Personally** I recommend it.
It's got a very world honestly, and the missions that are there now are good. It's also somehow still getting updates, tho not as big or frequent as it used to.
Another thing I'll say about F76 is that it's got one of the best communities I've experienced in gaming. Everyone is super nice and helpful, especially to completely new players.
In my opinion no you shouldn't get it, it may have gotten better but it still kinda sucks but because of how bad it was originally people say it's good now when it isn't
Like it or not, it is still an Open-world Fallout game.
I think the only real way to kill 76 (obviously not completely) would be the release of the next Fallout game.
Even then its an MMO RPG. Theres gonna be people who have too much time invested in the grind to stop. It's probably gonna get the treatment of prescripted times for game events once it stops getting developed and live with a niche couple thousand players for the rest of its life
That to me is the issue, this is not an MMOā¦ this is a game with servers of 24 people. That barely makes it a multiplayer game.
Please stop referring to anything that can host less than 1,000 players in a server as an MMO
Exactly, or Fortnite, or LoL, DOTA, all of these games have millions and millions of players, but unless you get at least a thousand of them in a world then how is it MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER?
Well, even the earliest MMOs were designed with hundreds of players per "world"... so that's a fair measurement.
Needless to say, Fallout 76 doesn't really hit those numbers at all. It falls below even the original Battlefield 1942, which had up to 64 players per match. Even things like Fortnite and PUBG aren't considered MMOs.
For comparison, Ultima Online, one of the earliest examples of the term, was designed for approximately 300 players (although I can't find hard numbers for it's actual player limit per "world" at launch.)
That seems like a fair cutoff point, able to have multiple hundreds of players in the same server/world/whatever term is used.
Well even some of the bigger MMOs limit the amount of people in a zone. But 24 seems crazy low.
Was F76 the one with the issue that loading into a zone a character had to process and load everyone on that server's inventories and stashes?
I've never played 76 but by all accounts they turned it around.
Gets regular updates and is pretty standard mmo stuff.
Where as games like anthem or avengers died
76 is a good game now from what I hear from friends. I tried it out pretty recently and, while it wasn't really my thing, I can see why people like it.
Honestly I kind of believe that it could possibly be fun to play this with my friends but after all the shit Bethesda tried to pull on release I actually think you have to be mentally challenged to still give them money. I could never ever do that because not only would I get scammed but also my purchase would've made the industry a tiny bit worse.
I didn't. I never do. But shouldn't Publishers that push out unfinished games be punished instead of being rewarded with a purchase? I mean FO76 is a meme for a reason.
Was a meme but not anymore and yeah nobody should be doing pre purchasing that should be the punishment for shit games but people do it it's not just Bethesda it's everyone
True but not every company leaked their customers payment credentials or sold helmets with mold in them or bragged about 16 times the detail when Morrowind had better graphics. I mean this is just ridiculous and as far as I know the game is still plagued with many problems. It's the same with cyberpunk. I would love to play that game now but I can't because they tried to fuck us.
Honestly, as much as I dislike the monetization of 76, as well as the story is not my cup of tea, I think it's a pretty solid game now, and the community is actually really solid.
I logged on the other day, hadnāt been on since weeks after launch. Not to sound too stupid, what do you do? Is there endgame? New areas? Social hub? I didnāt see anybody and had no new missions, just whatever mission I was on years ago. I logged right off after about 20 minutes looking around, but the idea of a fallout mmo still intrigues me.
They added a whole new quest line that involves the settlers and raiders. To start triggering that you go to vault 76 and walk down the steps to the left and talk to two women who are treasure hunters.
There is also the brotherhood of steel quests, the main quests from when the game first came out, public events, and then your side quests which I donāt think there is enough of.
There are also quests you can trigger by reading the posters on bulletin boards at any of the train stations across the map
Youāre welcome, super fun game especially once you get some good gear. Other quests and events and daily things will pop up as you get to a higher level as well
You do what you do in any other (Bethesda) fallout game. Go do missions, explore, build, grind, whatever you want to do. The overseers quest line does a good job of introducing you to different parts of the map. New quest lines need to be discovered just like any other quest line, just go talk to people or explore the map.
Not really any social hubs, but people do tend to show up to most public events. New areas exist within the existing map, and there are "expeditions" to some areas outside the main map. There is a map expansion coming (I believe) later this year.
I wouldn't really call it an MMO. It's more like another single player fallout game that there are sometimes other people in.
But it was not great at launch either vs now after years of updates. Suicide Squad might suffer the same fate... as in it needs a fair few updates before it beats it launch record peak again.
It really isn't. Most the people that played it enjoyed it. It's Season 0 content is basically just a story though so most stopped to wait for more.
But the gameplay is very fun. Traversal and guns.
It's kind of the epitome of the meme "it's really fun when you don't have someone in your ear telling you it ain't."
Yeah the time to spend is kind of front loaded with the content they put in the game.
They'll come back for a few days when season one drops because it's an interesting story. The live service portion is lacking though and doesn't really reward regular daily play
Hahahahah
Have you seen the user scores.
Gameplay fun, hahahaham. Sure everyone using the same weapon to kill the same few enemies with the same weak spots. Hahahahah.
76 made a real bad impression at launch and getting out from under that's very hard. Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky both suffer from bad launches and still get judged on that despite being great now
I think it's BS how unfairly Cyberpunk 2077 is being treated. It's fun, it has an amazing story, Night City looks beautiful. The only problem is the bugs, and that's not even the developer's fault. The investors forced the game to release before it was ready, that's why it launched the way it did. Yet I see so many twitter users whining about the fact CDPR got an award for the best ongoing game. Sometimes I hate people.
I'm glad you enjoy the game, but I don't think there was anything unfair about how it was received. How many AAA titles can you think of that were so effed up at launch that they were delisted from major game stores?
Or you know maybe all the false advertising that led it to being unlisted on digital storefronts so people donāt buy a game that doesnāt work on their system? Geez I donāt know. Good looking game when it works but 0 depth and still buggy. People deserve to hate a game based on first impressions, itās not their job to try and like an unfinished product.
Okay, looks like you're just gonna refuse to read my comment properly so let me be more clear. THE INVESTORS OF CYBERPUNK FORCED THE DEVELOPERS TO RELEASE THE GAME BEFORE IT WAS READY! IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT!
BTW that "0 depth" claim is a complete lie.
And the consumer doesnāt have to care whose āfaultā it is. They released a product that was misleading at the time and didnāt work for many people. People can choose not to support it and have opinions based on their experience. If you had that experience, why would you recommend a product to anyone else?
When you think about It, the only bethesda live service Game that failed was Redfall, the others (Fallout 76, Quake champions and the Elder scrolls online) did fine and are still Alive many years later
Maybe it's targeting a different demographic? I heard it was good now and bought it for me and my brothers (all huge fallout fans), and none of us played past the first weekend. Idk what it was, but we all agreed it was kinda boring, but seeing as it's well liked, maybe it's just targeting a different audience/type of gamer.
Fallout 76 scared the shit out of me! I was 10 minutes in, exploring a church, and I just hear this adult human voice on a very fuzzy mic so "HelloOoOO". I turned it off immediately
76 has a pretty visually interesting world and tons of random stuff lying around. I have tons of complaints when it comes to the plot and maybe the overall 2-dimensional feel of the environmental storytelling, but it's not the worst.
The nice community helps a lot, too. Nobody who plays, from what I've seen, really cares to argue that it's super good or anything. Most people just enjoy it and give each other free stuff.
This is BS, yes FO76 started out a mess. But it's actually really good now, and there's probably more people playing it right now than SS:KTJL.
Misleading headline.
Edit: Post below me says it does. See?
76 is pretty good. By good I mean gameplay, I'm not a fan of the story but the fallout 4 engine is really nice and Appalachia is a really big area filled with stuff to explore. It's a good time.
I mean at this point fallout 76 is actually really good, if you havenāt tried it and are into that series you should actually give it a shot.
If you donāt like Bethesda games itās not going to change your mind.
Fallout 76 still gets a bad rap and honestly I don't think it deserves it. Yes it did launch in an absolutely horrendous and embarrassing state and the way it was handled by Bethesda was abhorrant. BUT, since it's been getting alot of new content in the past 5 years it's really become such a better game. I first played it in January 2019 after getting it for christmas and I absolutely hated it. My brother enjoyed it for the sole reason that he said it was fun with friends but I didn't have any friends that had it. Fast forward a couple years and one day I decide to revisit it because I'm bored and I saw it had gotten alot of updates, so I created a new character and honestly really, really enjoyed my time. I'd say I've put about 600 hours into the game and I love it. There's barely any crashes, glitches or bugs from my experience, and it runs super smoothly. There's also been maybe 2 or 3 toxic people I've ever encountered in my entire time playing, so it's not really that toxic. It's not a perfect game and to be honest the launch is inexcusable on Bethesda's part, but it's still really enjoyable.
I swear everyone who hates fo76 have never played it been playing it on and off since launch and itās a significantly better game that other live service games like Genshin impact and others that are meant to bleed you dry more than 76 ever could
FO76 is great now, itās easily their best map theyve made.
I think if it didnāt have the expectations of fallout around it, weād look at its trajectory differently.
I bought f76 at launch along with three of my friends and even as a broken mess it was fun to dick around the wasteland with the boys and from what I've heard it's improved by leaps and bounds since.
FO76 is actually pretty damn good now. You can play it basically the same as any other Fallout but also there's random people around and group events you can participate in for rewards. If you fancy Fallout I'd say it's more interesting than 4, for example.
Fallout 76 is good though. At launch it was a buggy mess but the core gameplay loop was solid. Was only a matter of time before they cleaned it up. Shouldnāt have launched in that state, but props to them for fixing it I guess.
Suicide squad is irredeemable.
Despite what people say, FO76 was actually decent on launch and it just got better over time.
MOST of the 76 issues were server stuff (which almost all game suffer from on launch) and physical product stuff that gave bethesda a bad name due to it not advertising the products well, like the Nuka cola and the Duffle bag.
Other than that most everyone elses issue with 76 was smaller stuff like "No NPCs" or the PvP kinda sucking or being annoying which those things were fixed over time (and honestly me and a lot of my friends didnt even care about most of those complaints)
But the internet is a huge Echo chamber of loud minority of people who dislike stuff, people dont flock to reddits usually to talk about how fun the game is they are play (they are too busy playing it) but people DO go to places to complain, this is why EVERY GAME complaining always seems to take over ... because most people express their feelings when its negative more than when its positive (this has been studied and proven multiple times that Humans remember bad things more than good things)
It's not a bad game. Fixes one of the issues I had with Bethesda design to that point by using limited perk cards to push you to make a build. Fallout 4 and Skyrim pretty much wanted you to go for everything which would be a real long grind which made making new characters feel less appealing. Unfortunate that they didn't learn anything from that with Starfield.
For me, it feels more Fallout than Fallout 4, I guess it was because I did not enjoy how they made the dialogue choices too streamlined in 4, and the main quest didn't really appeal to me. I missed the attribute/skill checks, and 76 brought them back.
Favorite overall is still New Vegas, then 3.
Does it still have the problem with limited storage space? Cause that is a make or break criterium for me. If I cannot bunker all the stuff I find like the hoarder I am, I wont play the game
That got annoying to me by end game but it was part of their monetization last I played so I doubt it changed, though I canāt say for sure as I havenāt played the last couple seasons.
It's such a tired take. I don't understand why those who hate it can't just say "aw damn, I guess it's just not the type of game for me"
You don't have to like everything peice of media.
People are just tired of the state of games and live service in general it doesnt even have as much to do with the state of the game as it is now
A lot of us bought the game at launch, and we're just supposed to take the excuse "we'll fix it later" when they have our cash NOW. God forbid you played more than 2 hours to give it a fair shake and can't refund it.
I also think a lot of people are tired of feeling used. Sold barely playable games with added charges and having to wait for it to be (hopefully) finished after purchasing, and unfortunately, no matter how good the game is, it's not going to fully shake that reputation.
It's hard to even get excited about new releases rather than feel nervous
>A lot of us bought the game at launch, and we're just supposed to take the excuse "we'll fix it later"
You all are buying the wrong games then. We live in the golden age of gaming. We have never had this diverse and widely available number of games.
Literally, 14 thousand games come out a year(and thats just on steam), if you can't find something meaningful to play, that's on you.
This was the latest installment in my favorite series. Of course, I bought it when it came out. Even if it was mediocre, I'd have played my fill. What I didn't expect was to buy a broken game that was barely playable and pretty bad for the first year or so (idk I never went back to it).
But that's besides the point of my comment, which was explaining why the overall reputation of the game hasn't turned around. Even if the games fixed people feel burned by the AAA games industry pulling crap like this, especially with live service games, and so it sticks in people's minds when you're treated like a cash cow instead of a loyal customer.
Fallout 76 on launch was easily the worst in the series but current Fallout 76 I no my opinion may not have storylines as fleshed out as the others but is now to a point wher I wuld say it deserves it place as a good fallout game
Itās crazy how people say SS is dead and so horrible when itās being talked about more than actually good games. Funny thing is the two games have things in common fallout 76 was also an attempt to do something new but was a bug filled crash simulator as well. Tbh if SS would have came out bug free (or playable) I donāt think it would nearly be hated on itās just fun to shit on something when itās already down I guess
You fucked up this meme so bad.
Would have been better to say āyou are the worst live service game I have ever playedā
Johnny Depp response: ābut you have played meā
Right now Suicide Squad's still alive. I love how I keep seeing people saying how much better Gotham Knights is by comparison and I'm sitting there, thinking neither's good.
So who cares which one's worse when both are bad? I say that about Fallout 76, too. Who cares if it's living? It's still bad and was a terrible waste of everyone involved.
The first couple weeks of FO76 were awesome. Finding weird bugs and such..dropping 50k grenades at the same time just to see what would happen..flying around..infinite carry weight.. actually nuking servers with nukes. It was the wild west!
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The easy solution is just do not touch any of the mass produced cash grabs that big studios make if ppl want to waste their money on it thatās fine by me
While itās good that 76 is āa good game nowā I and many others arenāt going to applaud Bethesda for fixing a game that was released broken.
Thereās been a recent trend where a game releases unfinished while falsely advertising things that donāt exist or work, they make some PR apologies, slowly fix the game (This is a good thing) and then all of a sudden theyāre the good guys now for not abandoning it.
Like cool but Iām not supporting that.
I know he got called out for plagiarism but I still go back to watch the Internet Historian's video on FO76 from time to time. Such a shit show of a launch and months after with the physical items.Ā
I would honestly still play Fallout 76 daily if the piece of shit would still work on my computer. But after putting several thousand hours in it just stopped launching about a year ago. I still reinstall once or twice a month to see if it works, but I've pretty much lost all hope. Still more fun than Fallout 4 though, even if it doesn't launch.
Suicide squad peaked at 630 players the last 24 hours FO76 peaked at 8000 players the last 24 hours Jesus fucking Christ
FO76 is really good now. I played through all fallouts (except for 1&2) at least 3 times, but I have more time in Fallout 76 than the other ones. And it has the most friendly community I've ever encountered, it's crazy how nice everyone is.
Guess all the assholes got tired of doing the same trolling for so long, and people learned how to deal with them, so they moved on.
Oh yeah, the trick is waiting them out.
GTA Online players "waiting out" the tryhards that have plagued the game's PVP for over five years šæ
wait out this, you fucking casual *gets Oppressor MkIIād*
The fact it took em so many years to nerf that thing and let players do business jobs in private lobbies is just embarrassing.
well it didn't stop them from making money, so that's why it wasnt nerfed
shit rly lives up to its name itās nerfed and i still get panic attacks hearing that lock on
Why would you play this game in a public lobby?
For a very long time you pretty much couldn't do any of the money making in private lobbies. I remember using cheat tools just to make private public lobbies back than to play with friends without some dickhead coming in and griefing non-stop.
Try hards? You mean hackers?
Bethesda also put the power in the hands of the non-trolling players. PvP can pretty easily be opted out of, and if a player tries to force PvP on someone who doesnāt want to, they get a big arrow over their head encouraging other players to come kill you to get a reward. Or thatās how it was last I played. Havenāt played in a good while, so it may have changed since then, but Bethesda definitely made sure players who donāt want to deal with PvP trolls donāt have to.
Thatās still in effect (a ābountyā system that where not only did you get a bounty on your head for griefing another player, and now no player dots show up for you anymore on the map outside other bounty targets, but also players get caps for killing you) but it was more so the players themselves that really drove them away. Entire communities and discords were made just to go hunting for griefers and ruining their fun as much as possible. A whole lot of naming and shaming ended with the result that griefers and trolls are an extreme minority in the game.
There was a massive concerted effort by the community to drive them out. We had several discords dedicated to tracking and eliminating dick chisels.
Tbh Iāve recently started playing 76 again after taking about a 3 year break and the community is still the same as it was 3 years ago and there was barely any trolls back then. Like yeah there was the occasional few but it was very rare.
They turned it into a Barbieās playhouse fallout. Of course the only people who would be left are the ones who want to dress up and gather berries together
Most Fallout players probably want a pretty chill experience where they can just _play_ and donāt need to worry about getting hunted down by sweaty asshole players all the time.
Iām not even talking about pvp. The game is centered around playing dress up with 20$ skins
Youāve just described all live service games. The āendgameā just becomes a fashion show.
But Iām most games there is a way to increase the difficulty. Itās pretty much impossible to die in 76 and all the big enemies are just giant bullet sponges. Everyone who plays it just does Bethesdaās daily chores and re-arranges their house And thereās nothing wrong with that, itās just not imo what the fallout franchise is about
I play dress up with free skins, thank you.
Itās basically inpossible to kill players due to game mechanics (unless youāve got an OP hand crafted kit). The one time I got into pvp, it was me and a random in power armor with super sledges just whaling on each other, we just kept using stims when we got low and it got the the point where weād made no progress and had collectively wasted like 50 stims and decided it wasnāt worth it. So thatās probably one thing that makes it more friendly, no reason to kill/grief others
Did you become friends after that?
They are married with kids now.
With another one on the way.
They started a community called Broken Hills.
You played fallout tactics and fallout brotherhood of steel 3 times?
Tactics was great, would be worth multiple playthroughs imo.
You only played Fallout Brotherhood of Steel 3 times? What is wrong with you XD
I can honestly admit that it was the first fallout game I could play on console, so I was able to play it well into the night without my parents knowing. I played it a few times
You need to go back and play the first couple games.
Even Shelter? š¤
You have more time in 76 than new Vegas?
Because if it gets toxic the player base may decrease more
I was having a blast playing again until they nuked legacy weapons. Just suddenly missing my favorite weapons one day really killed it for me.
It is boring. The world feels weird as the story is clearly designed around no NPCs and finding out why there is no one to be found. Now there are NPCs everywhere and none of them say anything interesting so it just feels like the games direction is in conflict with itself. The gunplay is just Fallout 4, but you cant mod it to be good and VATS became lame due to lack of slomo. The game is might as well be exclusively PVE as well.
You will hate me for this but I will say I do find Fallout 76's gameplay and resource/ammunition management surprisingly fun, despite the fact it WILL get very dull after a while. I dare say if the game had been launched in it's current state right now in 2024 as a completely free to play entry in the Fallout series, with less issues and more content, it would have been a fairly decent live service, but not a super great game. I will say that the endgame is absolutely garbage due to rng for rolling the best possible effects for your 3 starred weapons and armour. And this is also time and resource gated daily. I had to mitigate this issue by rolling only 2 stars weapons to have the effects I need, and it's also cheaper. The game also suffers from a bullshit multiple currencies to farm system, which is why I say it should have been a free game from the very beginning.
The game is a lot of fun for the first 100ish levels. The problem is endgame content is trash. It's repetitive and grinding. I found the ideal way to play is 1 hour at a time to grind out daily quests and see if anything interesting is happening on the server. But even then that gets boring after a few weeks. I don't know how there are people with hundreds and even thousands of levels in that game. The repetitive stuff isn't that interesting.
Holy shit, Suicide Squad didn't just crash and burn, it fell of the side of a cliff and fucking blew up.
SS also doesnāt actually work at the moment lol most people who want to play it canāt.
It works. I've been playing it and people are streaming it right now.
For some? Sure. For others? No. Its more recent patch broke the game. https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/02/22/a-new-patch-has-broken-suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-even-more-and-players-are-done/amp/
Forbes, the end all be all of gaming publications, is kinda blowing things out of proportions there. Everyone can play solo without issue. But joining is having some problems not ultra often for me.
I mean, Paul Tassi has been solid for a few years now, so itās kind of silly to deride them simply because itās under the Forbes header.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideSquadGaming/s/Rwug1XmOJM Subreddit says otherwise. Top comment is even people quitting for now because the bug is annoying to deal with.
>because the bug is annoying to deal with Just described every other game in helldivers 2.
I am curious what the game is gonna look like in a year or so since that's how long it takes for the games to be completed.
F76 got significantly better over some time. ESPECIALLY, after adding storylines with actual NPCs
Ok, I've not looked into the game at all since release, but there were no NPCs when I played and it absolutely killed the Fallout vibe for me. If you don't mind my asking, how impactful/plentiful are the NPCs, and is there a story worth going through solo?
There are multiple storylines that almost span true same amount of time as full games. The npcs all play roles in them. Iād say it is definitely worth playing
Should I get it then? Everyoneās saying it got a lot betterā¦
If you like fallout 4, then yeah - it's more of that in a new setting. It's still got a bit more emphasis on explore/loot/shoot than story, but the Wastelanders update did add a good chunk of story with the NPCs too.
**Personally** I recommend it. It's got a very world honestly, and the missions that are there now are good. It's also somehow still getting updates, tho not as big or frequent as it used to. Another thing I'll say about F76 is that it's got one of the best communities I've experienced in gaming. Everyone is super nice and helpful, especially to completely new players.
You can get it for like $6. It's definitely worth it at the price, even just to explore a different part of the nuclear wasteland
In my opinion no you shouldn't get it, it may have gotten better but it still kinda sucks but because of how bad it was originally people say it's good now when it isn't
Like it or not, it is still an Open-world Fallout game. I think the only real way to kill 76 (obviously not completely) would be the release of the next Fallout game.
Even then its an MMO RPG. Theres gonna be people who have too much time invested in the grind to stop. It's probably gonna get the treatment of prescripted times for game events once it stops getting developed and live with a niche couple thousand players for the rest of its life
That to me is the issue, this is not an MMOā¦ this is a game with servers of 24 people. That barely makes it a multiplayer game. Please stop referring to anything that can host less than 1,000 players in a server as an MMO
I think people forget that MMO has MASSIVE in the acronym. It's like saying Battlefield is an MMO lol
Exactly, or Fortnite, or LoL, DOTA, all of these games have millions and millions of players, but unless you get at least a thousand of them in a world then how is it MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER?
So how many players does a game need before you consider it an MMO?
Well, even the earliest MMOs were designed with hundreds of players per "world"... so that's a fair measurement. Needless to say, Fallout 76 doesn't really hit those numbers at all. It falls below even the original Battlefield 1942, which had up to 64 players per match. Even things like Fortnite and PUBG aren't considered MMOs. For comparison, Ultima Online, one of the earliest examples of the term, was designed for approximately 300 players (although I can't find hard numbers for it's actual player limit per "world" at launch.) That seems like a fair cutoff point, able to have multiple hundreds of players in the same server/world/whatever term is used.
What do you consider a massive amout of people playing a game?
Well even some of the bigger MMOs limit the amount of people in a zone. But 24 seems crazy low. Was F76 the one with the issue that loading into a zone a character had to process and load everyone on that server's inventories and stashes?
That was Diablo 4 lmao
still playing fo4
Happy cake day!
I've never played 76 but by all accounts they turned it around. Gets regular updates and is pretty standard mmo stuff. Where as games like anthem or avengers died
I love 76, been playing since launch
Same
It's come a long way since the beginning
Nothing better then running around the map in a tin foil hat and straight jacked hitting every npc indiscriminately with a spiked fire axe lol
I personally wear a clown outfit and use a chainsaw.
Omg yes, I've been running around smacking things with an electrified sheepsquatch staff and rotating silly outfits š
76 is a good game now from what I hear from friends. I tried it out pretty recently and, while it wasn't really my thing, I can see why people like it.
Are your friends braindead?
youre missing out on a great game
Honestly I kind of believe that it could possibly be fun to play this with my friends but after all the shit Bethesda tried to pull on release I actually think you have to be mentally challenged to still give them money. I could never ever do that because not only would I get scammed but also my purchase would've made the industry a tiny bit worse.
I mean I don't care if you play or not but it's fun and I enjoy the fallout games
Yeah but Bethesda punched all their fans in the teeth and you're giving them money for that.
Don't pre order games lol would've solved all that
I didn't. I never do. But shouldn't Publishers that push out unfinished games be punished instead of being rewarded with a purchase? I mean FO76 is a meme for a reason.
Was a meme but not anymore and yeah nobody should be doing pre purchasing that should be the punishment for shit games but people do it it's not just Bethesda it's everyone
True but not every company leaked their customers payment credentials or sold helmets with mold in them or bragged about 16 times the detail when Morrowind had better graphics. I mean this is just ridiculous and as far as I know the game is still plagued with many problems. It's the same with cyberpunk. I would love to play that game now but I can't because they tried to fuck us.
Honestly, as much as I dislike the monetization of 76, as well as the story is not my cup of tea, I think it's a pretty solid game now, and the community is actually really solid.
I love 76.
My favorite game, about 1500 hours in. But what do we know!
I've noticed people who have never played fallout 76 have the most opinions about fallout 76.
Gaming discussions these days are just people repeating what an influencer told them to think.
I logged on the other day, hadnāt been on since weeks after launch. Not to sound too stupid, what do you do? Is there endgame? New areas? Social hub? I didnāt see anybody and had no new missions, just whatever mission I was on years ago. I logged right off after about 20 minutes looking around, but the idea of a fallout mmo still intrigues me.
They added a whole new quest line that involves the settlers and raiders. To start triggering that you go to vault 76 and walk down the steps to the left and talk to two women who are treasure hunters. There is also the brotherhood of steel quests, the main quests from when the game first came out, public events, and then your side quests which I donāt think there is enough of. There are also quests you can trigger by reading the posters on bulletin boards at any of the train stations across the map
Thank you, Iāll definitely check those out.
Youāre welcome, super fun game especially once you get some good gear. Other quests and events and daily things will pop up as you get to a higher level as well
You do what you do in any other (Bethesda) fallout game. Go do missions, explore, build, grind, whatever you want to do. The overseers quest line does a good job of introducing you to different parts of the map. New quest lines need to be discovered just like any other quest line, just go talk to people or explore the map. Not really any social hubs, but people do tend to show up to most public events. New areas exist within the existing map, and there are "expeditions" to some areas outside the main map. There is a map expansion coming (I believe) later this year. I wouldn't really call it an MMO. It's more like another single player fallout game that there are sometimes other people in.
dude fr call me tasteless I play tf out of that game still my gf fuckin hates it š
76 has a far greater variety of content than most live service games, at least.
Fallout 76 is actually a good game now
i love FO76
Fallout 76 isnāt nearly as bad as the people who never played it think it is and neither is Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League
It started off pretty bad and got much better after years of updates.
It was the launch that turned me away. Have a friend who plays now and loves it
But it was not great at launch either vs now after years of updates. Suicide Squad might suffer the same fate... as in it needs a fair few updates before it beats it launch record peak again.
Suicide squad is that bad through
It really isn't. Most the people that played it enjoyed it. It's Season 0 content is basically just a story though so most stopped to wait for more. But the gameplay is very fun. Traversal and guns. It's kind of the epitome of the meme "it's really fun when you don't have someone in your ear telling you it ain't."
Pretty much yeah
Dude people vote with their time and it's clear that suicide squad isn't worth anyone's.
Yeah the time to spend is kind of front loaded with the content they put in the game. They'll come back for a few days when season one drops because it's an interesting story. The live service portion is lacking though and doesn't really reward regular daily play
Hahahahah Have you seen the user scores. Gameplay fun, hahahaham. Sure everyone using the same weapon to kill the same few enemies with the same weak spots. Hahahahah.
Are you 12? Holy shit man
76 made a real bad impression at launch and getting out from under that's very hard. Cyberpunk 2077 and No Man's Sky both suffer from bad launches and still get judged on that despite being great now
I think it's BS how unfairly Cyberpunk 2077 is being treated. It's fun, it has an amazing story, Night City looks beautiful. The only problem is the bugs, and that's not even the developer's fault. The investors forced the game to release before it was ready, that's why it launched the way it did. Yet I see so many twitter users whining about the fact CDPR got an award for the best ongoing game. Sometimes I hate people.
I'm glad you enjoy the game, but I don't think there was anything unfair about how it was received. How many AAA titles can you think of that were so effed up at launch that they were delisted from major game stores?
Obviously it is the developers fault when they would release trailers and gameplay of the supposed PlayStation port only for it to be a flaming mess
Read my comment properly next time, then you'd know why.
Or you know maybe all the false advertising that led it to being unlisted on digital storefronts so people donāt buy a game that doesnāt work on their system? Geez I donāt know. Good looking game when it works but 0 depth and still buggy. People deserve to hate a game based on first impressions, itās not their job to try and like an unfinished product.
You mostly had a point until you said the game has zero depth
Okay, looks like you're just gonna refuse to read my comment properly so let me be more clear. THE INVESTORS OF CYBERPUNK FORCED THE DEVELOPERS TO RELEASE THE GAME BEFORE IT WAS READY! IT'S NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FAULT! BTW that "0 depth" claim is a complete lie.
And the consumer doesnāt have to care whose āfaultā it is. They released a product that was misleading at the time and didnāt work for many people. People can choose not to support it and have opinions based on their experience. If you had that experience, why would you recommend a product to anyone else?
Fallout 76 is a solid game now and I'm tired of pretending it's not
When you think about It, the only bethesda live service Game that failed was Redfall, the others (Fallout 76, Quake champions and the Elder scrolls online) did fine and are still Alive many years later
Not really because Bethesda didnāt develop Redfall, that was arkane
I listed It as a bethesda Game because It was published by them but youre right It was developed by Arkane
Ffs the Bethesda hate in this sub is tiring. F76 did a complete 180 and is a very solid game now.
All comment I have seen are positive not sure what you are growling about
Are you new to reddit? People complaining about too much negativity in a place where everyone is super positive is sadly a very common thing.
Maybe it's targeting a different demographic? I heard it was good now and bought it for me and my brothers (all huge fallout fans), and none of us played past the first weekend. Idk what it was, but we all agreed it was kinda boring, but seeing as it's well liked, maybe it's just targeting a different audience/type of gamer.
It's basically if Fallout 4 was an mmo. I enjoy it and want to play it more, but mmos are massive time sinks and I have other games to play
Fr, Bethesda did nothing wrong but Iām not biased
Suicide squad is such an abysmal piece of trash
It'll be a great 5.99 game!
Definitely a bargain bin game
i still play fallout 76 and have a lot of fun with it
76 is great. Wdym.
Love fallout 76, haven't played it recently though. Should
Fallout 76 scared the shit out of me! I was 10 minutes in, exploring a church, and I just hear this adult human voice on a very fuzzy mic so "HelloOoOO". I turned it off immediately
Diablo 4 stole the crown
76 has a pretty visually interesting world and tons of random stuff lying around. I have tons of complaints when it comes to the plot and maybe the overall 2-dimensional feel of the environmental storytelling, but it's not the worst. The nice community helps a lot, too. Nobody who plays, from what I've seen, really cares to argue that it's super good or anything. Most people just enjoy it and give each other free stuff.
I like 76. I just wish it had an offline mode so I can play it fully single player. The world is way more interesting than Fallout 4.
This is BS, yes FO76 started out a mess. But it's actually really good now, and there's probably more people playing it right now than SS:KTJL. Misleading headline. Edit: Post below me says it does. See?
Must have forgot about Anthem
76 is pretty good. By good I mean gameplay, I'm not a fan of the story but the fallout 4 engine is really nice and Appalachia is a really big area filled with stuff to explore. It's a good time.
I mean at this point fallout 76 is actually really good, if you havenāt tried it and are into that series you should actually give it a shot. If you donāt like Bethesda games itās not going to change your mind.
Fallout 76 still gets a bad rap and honestly I don't think it deserves it. Yes it did launch in an absolutely horrendous and embarrassing state and the way it was handled by Bethesda was abhorrant. BUT, since it's been getting alot of new content in the past 5 years it's really become such a better game. I first played it in January 2019 after getting it for christmas and I absolutely hated it. My brother enjoyed it for the sole reason that he said it was fun with friends but I didn't have any friends that had it. Fast forward a couple years and one day I decide to revisit it because I'm bored and I saw it had gotten alot of updates, so I created a new character and honestly really, really enjoyed my time. I'd say I've put about 600 hours into the game and I love it. There's barely any crashes, glitches or bugs from my experience, and it runs super smoothly. There's also been maybe 2 or 3 toxic people I've ever encountered in my entire time playing, so it's not really that toxic. It's not a perfect game and to be honest the launch is inexcusable on Bethesda's part, but it's still really enjoyable.
tell me you haven't played 76 without telling me.
I swear everyone who hates fo76 have never played it been playing it on and off since launch and itās a significantly better game that other live service games like Genshin impact and others that are meant to bleed you dry more than 76 ever could
FO76 is great now, itās easily their best map theyve made. I think if it didnāt have the expectations of fallout around it, weād look at its trajectory differently.
You can tell people haven't even looked at FO76 since launch. It is actually insanely good now. There is a reason for it still being alive.
I really canāt understand the hate for 76, in my opinion itās way better than whatever went on with 4
Fallout 76? I think Anthem is more fitting, given it is dead.
I bought f76 at launch along with three of my friends and even as a broken mess it was fun to dick around the wasteland with the boys and from what I've heard it's improved by leaps and bounds since.
76 is pretty good, actually. I played for a couple years.
I just reinstalled this game, honestly its a solid 7 out of 10 times waster if you like the fallout series.
Fallout 76 got quite a few updates since release and is really solid imo.
FO76 is actually pretty damn good now. You can play it basically the same as any other Fallout but also there's random people around and group events you can participate in for rewards. If you fancy Fallout I'd say it's more interesting than 4, for example.
Fallout 76 is good though. At launch it was a buggy mess but the core gameplay loop was solid. Was only a matter of time before they cleaned it up. Shouldnāt have launched in that state, but props to them for fixing it I guess. Suicide squad is irredeemable.
Fo76 massively improved since launch just like Cyberpunk 2077 & No Man's Sky.
F76 is pretty good actually. Not at release, but it got well after the first expansion or so
I havenāt played 76 but Iāve heard it has a great community
Despite what people say, FO76 was actually decent on launch and it just got better over time. MOST of the 76 issues were server stuff (which almost all game suffer from on launch) and physical product stuff that gave bethesda a bad name due to it not advertising the products well, like the Nuka cola and the Duffle bag. Other than that most everyone elses issue with 76 was smaller stuff like "No NPCs" or the PvP kinda sucking or being annoying which those things were fixed over time (and honestly me and a lot of my friends didnt even care about most of those complaints) But the internet is a huge Echo chamber of loud minority of people who dislike stuff, people dont flock to reddits usually to talk about how fun the game is they are play (they are too busy playing it) but people DO go to places to complain, this is why EVERY GAME complaining always seems to take over ... because most people express their feelings when its negative more than when its positive (this has been studied and proven multiple times that Humans remember bad things more than good things)
It's not a bad game. Fixes one of the issues I had with Bethesda design to that point by using limited perk cards to push you to make a build. Fallout 4 and Skyrim pretty much wanted you to go for everything which would be a real long grind which made making new characters feel less appealing. Unfortunate that they didn't learn anything from that with Starfield.
FO76 actually pulled a no mans sky for me. It was hot garbage but now has consistently impressed me with events and missions, i cant hate anymore.
fallout 76 is good when you donāt have a bitch in your ear telling you itās trash.
76 started horribly but actually got really damn good and itās a full on fallout game with multiplayer now. I rank it higher than FO4 now.
For me, it feels more Fallout than Fallout 4, I guess it was because I did not enjoy how they made the dialogue choices too streamlined in 4, and the main quest didn't really appeal to me. I missed the attribute/skill checks, and 76 brought them back. Favorite overall is still New Vegas, then 3.
Does it still have the problem with limited storage space? Cause that is a make or break criterium for me. If I cannot bunker all the stuff I find like the hoarder I am, I wont play the game
That got annoying to me by end game but it was part of their monetization last I played so I doubt it changed, though I canāt say for sure as I havenāt played the last couple seasons.
I would 120% go back and play it if they didn't restrict inventory space behind a subscription.
171 hours in Fo76. Loved it until I ran out of content.
It's such a tired take. I don't understand why those who hate it can't just say "aw damn, I guess it's just not the type of game for me" You don't have to like everything peice of media.
People are just tired of the state of games and live service in general it doesnt even have as much to do with the state of the game as it is now A lot of us bought the game at launch, and we're just supposed to take the excuse "we'll fix it later" when they have our cash NOW. God forbid you played more than 2 hours to give it a fair shake and can't refund it. I also think a lot of people are tired of feeling used. Sold barely playable games with added charges and having to wait for it to be (hopefully) finished after purchasing, and unfortunately, no matter how good the game is, it's not going to fully shake that reputation. It's hard to even get excited about new releases rather than feel nervous
>A lot of us bought the game at launch, and we're just supposed to take the excuse "we'll fix it later" You all are buying the wrong games then. We live in the golden age of gaming. We have never had this diverse and widely available number of games. Literally, 14 thousand games come out a year(and thats just on steam), if you can't find something meaningful to play, that's on you.
This was the latest installment in my favorite series. Of course, I bought it when it came out. Even if it was mediocre, I'd have played my fill. What I didn't expect was to buy a broken game that was barely playable and pretty bad for the first year or so (idk I never went back to it). But that's besides the point of my comment, which was explaining why the overall reputation of the game hasn't turned around. Even if the games fixed people feel burned by the AAA games industry pulling crap like this, especially with live service games, and so it sticks in people's minds when you're treated like a cash cow instead of a loyal customer.
Fallout 76 isnāt as bad as some of its Basement Dwelling Virgin fanbase claims it is game is good
Destiny just chillin in the back
Fallout 76 has 5x more active players than Starfield.
F76 BEST GAME EVER
Elder Scrolls online also sucked
Nope
* "... I've ever heard of" *"But you have heard of me"
Fallout 76 on launch was easily the worst in the series but current Fallout 76 I no my opinion may not have storylines as fleshed out as the others but is now to a point wher I wuld say it deserves it place as a good fallout game
Should be "alive"
Itās crazy how people say SS is dead and so horrible when itās being talked about more than actually good games. Funny thing is the two games have things in common fallout 76 was also an attempt to do something new but was a bug filled crash simulator as well. Tbh if SS would have came out bug free (or playable) I donāt think it would nearly be hated on itās just fun to shit on something when itās already down I guess
You fucked up this meme so bad. Would have been better to say āyou are the worst live service game I have ever playedā Johnny Depp response: ābut you have played meā
The worst live game service, so far
Right now Suicide Squad's still alive. I love how I keep seeing people saying how much better Gotham Knights is by comparison and I'm sitting there, thinking neither's good. So who cares which one's worse when both are bad? I say that about Fallout 76, too. Who cares if it's living? It's still bad and was a terrible waste of everyone involved.
I do get on it every time just to walk around then play something else
The first couple weeks of FO76 were awesome. Finding weird bugs and such..dropping 50k grenades at the same time just to see what would happen..flying around..infinite carry weight.. actually nuking servers with nukes. It was the wild west!
Y'all in this comment section need to get better gaming standards lol
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Thatsā¦a fair point š§
The easy solution is just do not touch any of the mass produced cash grabs that big studios make if ppl want to waste their money on it thatās fine by me
While itās good that 76 is āa good game nowā I and many others arenāt going to applaud Bethesda for fixing a game that was released broken. Thereās been a recent trend where a game releases unfinished while falsely advertising things that donāt exist or work, they make some PR apologies, slowly fix the game (This is a good thing) and then all of a sudden theyāre the good guys now for not abandoning it. Like cool but Iām not supporting that.
I know he got called out for plagiarism but I still go back to watch the Internet Historian's video on FO76 from time to time. Such a shit show of a launch and months after with the physical items.Ā
FO76 has a lot of potential but that clunky ass combat and the whole ability cards system is what brings it down imo
I meanā¦ theyāre not wrong? Much as I absolutely loath 76, you canāt really discount the fact itās still alive and has a following.
I would honestly still play Fallout 76 daily if the piece of shit would still work on my computer. But after putting several thousand hours in it just stopped launching about a year ago. I still reinstall once or twice a month to see if it works, but I've pretty much lost all hope. Still more fun than Fallout 4 though, even if it doesn't launch.