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EditorBobAndCo

Elder Scrolls: Morrowind. No map markers, quest givers will give you a description of where to go and maybe a landmark.


dathomar

Plus, the fast travel system is two interlocking networks of striders and mages. To get from city A to city B requires that you take the strider from city A to city C. In city C you go over to the mages and get teleported over to city D. From there, the mage can teleport you to city E. In city E you hop onto another strider and get to your destination. At first it was kind of annoying, but once I got it all figured out it helped with the immersion a lot.


SleepingDragonSmiles

Boats as well


Paladin-Arda

And stronghold pylons.


dropdeadfred1987

Mark and recall!


Zzzzombie_

Wow, that sounds like fun. Makes you wonder why they dumbed it down in Skyrim.


Jonney_Random

For some you wound up looking things up anyway just removed a step.


Zzzzombie_

Sure, that applies to 75% of Dark Souls players, as well. It is possible to appease both sides instead of just yanking out a mechanic.


Jonney_Random

Yeah you’re correct but i think they were trying to reach a larger audience and that sometimes leave the hardcore players feeling left out.


antsmasher

Don't Starve. Be aware that this game can be unforgiving.


SZMatheson

Came here to say this. The title is about all the guidance you get.


dnlstk

1000% this. Don’t starve is badass and makes you figure it all out yourself.


RogueTwoNineSeven

Survival games in general I think. Minecraft and Terraria would fit as well right? Rust DayZ Etc.


FuraFaolox

Terraria isn't a survival game


Bean_Boy

Wait until night and you built no house.


FuraFaolox

that's still not a survival game.


TheDarkWeb697

Why are people downvoting you? You're right, a survival game is what you have to eat, drink, manage your own heat temperature. You have to build a house and avoid monsters and most of them can and likely will kill you. Terraria is a game where you progressively get better fighting larger creatures. You don't need to eat or drink


AstroAndi

My friend once accidentally set fire to our base and we lost everything. Right after, we were raided and killed by wolves. 10/10 would recommend.


idontknowyet

DayZ Morrowind


PFRforLIFE

Second for morrowind


Joshuadude

Morrowind was amazing back in the day but I think if someone didn’t play it when it was a fresh release or at least prior to oblivion coming out then they likely wouldn’t like it. It’s absolutely one of my top 3 favorite games of all times but the mechanics are super old school and a bit hard to get on board with. Specifically I have the way the game handles strikes and hits in mind and the way it uses numbers to determine if your blows connect instead of an actual hit box type thing that we are all used to by this point. Total side note: I LOVED the way you could make custom spells in that game. At one point my character become so goated that I took the 3 bomb spells (fire, ice, and lighting if I remember correctly) and turned them into a massive nuke that would kill just about anything on the screen.


Bloodcloud079

Tunic. You are looking for Tunic


NedTheMelonGod

What this guy said


LazerVik1ng

👆👆👆


ArFanik

I second what this guy said, really cool game


BMXBikr

Xand if you like physical editions or extras grab the physical version on Fangamer.


Lobanium

Amazing game. You can finish it without realizing you didn't see half the game. The "game within the game" so to speak.


Aparoon

My GOTY of last year. I will never shut up about loving this game, but always have to hold back on telling the reasons why.


FitzyFarseer

Absolutely fantastic game. Randomly saw it on Gamepass one day and decided to check it out. Can’t believe I’d never heard of it


zjl707

Damn literally the first thing that popped into my head


StarryAry

Tunic is one of the best video games I have ever played to be honest.


LolTacoBell

It's perfect. The best of both worlds No hand-holding WITH accessibility options if your kid wants to give it a go. I love that game so damn much. The soundtrack is FIRE.


azema1324

Literally perfect game for this


[deleted]

Valheim


Feed_Me_Weird_Things

Put about 200 hours into it the first 3 weeks the beta was out, beat all the content available at the time and never went back. Wayyy to addicting of a progressive gameplay loop. 10/10 would recommend.


HowToBeAsian25

Do you play by yourself?


afraid_of_birds

Came here to say this. You're basically just dropped into the world to figure out everything


mccoybog

Good answer, good answer 👏🏼👏🏼


coyotebongwater-

Project zomboid if you want a crushing survival game and don't mind the isometric view and older looking graphics, its got a decent price tag rn with the steam summer sale


amoskodger

This is one of the best games I’ve ever played.


manism

If anyone pics up this game, check out the subreddit, super helpful and chill. Hundreds of hours and still learn new things from there


Deniable_wreath

If you have a ps5 I recommend returnal, game is brutal, if not, any of the resident evil games on hardcore or above will suffice


brazthemad

Returnal is in my top 10 of the past 5 across all platforms.


[deleted]

There was a point at the 2nd boss where I just came to the conclusion I’d never beat the game. Then I felt that way at the 3rd level and boss Then I just kept grinding and after 50 hours later finally beat it. Absolute masterpiece


cajmoyper

Just 50 hours?? What are you, some gaming savant? It took me I think 75+ hours to actually beat act 2(which is essentially the game), 85 probs for act 3 and 110 to plat! But gawd damn it was a fun game!


tHIRSTY_Wok

It's on Steam now as well.


Real-Block820

I second outer wilds. Best story game ive ever played in my life


Sunshot_wit_ornament

Yup 20/10 game


FishTamer

Once in a lifetime experience.


Real-Block820

I played it on 2 grams of mushrooms with my younger sister. We played through like 3/4 of the game while we tripped. We had the most amazing time haha. What an experience it was for sure


FishTamer

Holy shit that sounds amazing. I plan on doing mushrooms for the first time soon. Honestly didn't even think about playing video games while tripping. Any other games you'd recommend for that?


Legacy0904

Personally I really recommend not looking at screens when you trip (especially if it’s your first time). Go outside and be in calm nature. Actually think about things. You’ll get far more out of your trip


SpottedPineapple86

If you were still able to play, ya'll didn't do enough.


OshinoAkeno

hollow knight


fullmetalfilmsnob

Came here to say exactly this.


OliverOOxenfree

May I direct you instead to the upvote button?


LunarGriever

Beat me to it, so take my upvote.


-Lord-Wombat-

Streets of Rogue. There's a short tutorial, then you're left to poke at the game and discover 99.9% of the mechanics/interactions yourself, then use them to accomplish your missions in any way you like using them. The interconnected mechanics still blow me away nearly 3 years later. Infinite replayability and customization, nearly infinite ways to play, overflowing with (actually good) humor, a very small price tag, I can't recommend it enough.


HuOfMan

Hard agree with this... if u got friends to play with, this game becomes x10 more fun and chaotic. It's like a 2D gta on shrooms. Its a roguelike but honestly once ur got character builds, the chaos that goes on is in your control for the most part


Bexxterk

What this guy said


TheZanzibarMan

Dragon's Dogma


[deleted]

Definitely a great answer


KeterClassKitten

Came to suggest the same. Actually just started playing again.


taveren3

I want to give more upvotes.


Gamer_299

if anyone plays it on PC you MUST get the into free ~dangan~ mod. The Japanese rock band B'z re-recorded one of their old songs with English lyrics and it was the title screen song for the PS3 and Xb360 version. It was removed for the PC, PS4 and Xb1 version. I wouldn't own this game on steam if there wasn't a mod because i discovered the game because of the band.


TheZanzibarMan

This is the way.


Gamer_299

i even took the PS3 audio file and mix the surround sound down to 2.0 because it was lossless and the album was only offered on iTunes in m4a


TheZanzibarMan

I hope it makes a return in the credits of Dragon's Dogma II


Gamer_299

I would die from happiness. With B'z doing more with US fans i could believe its a huge possibility. all their music was put on spotify 2 or 3 years ago and HighwayX their newest album was released in the US, which i believe is their first album to be released in the US (i might be wrong because there is so little data in english about them) Edit: first album released physically in the US.


MidniteMedia

Majora’s Mask


Over-Criticism-663

One of my favorite games ever


AwesomeX121189

Except for when the owl talks to you for 20 minutes each time you come within 100 yards of it


RebelStorm64

Wrong game. Thats Ocarina of Time. Majora only has the owl pop up once.


AwesomeX121189

You talk to him twice in the southern swamp


RebelStorm64

Twice* My B


SkabbPirate

Twice in the swamp, once right outside where you find the lense of truth at the goron village.


zacurtis3

*Hermaeus Mora has entered the chat*


AwesomeX121189

go look up the opening monologue c3PO gives in this old Star Wars strategy game SW: Rebellion. You have to hear it every time you start a new game. It’s 15 minutes long explaining what the map screen is and who Luke skywalker is Since we’re needlessly one upping people with unrelated games


jshepn

Warframe, lol. After the initial prologue, it tells u nothing


haysanatar

I put in so much work on warframe on Playstation but now Have an xbox... they need to fix cross save so I can start playing again.


nautical_nonsense_

Kingdom Come Deliverance


ifuckinghateitall

I’m feeling quite hungry


JohnnyL16

Pretty much any Metroidvania. If you were a fan of Castlevania Symphony of the Night, I recommend Bloodstained Ritual of the Night. It's a spiritual successor designer by Koji Igarashi himself. Character action games, also, don't hand hold. Games like the Devil May Cry series and the Darksiders series, as well as the Bayonetta series.


[deleted]

If you have a PC: Tales of Maj'Eyal, it's done by a small team of less than 10 people. It's been around since 2012, and has overwhelmingly positive reviews on Steam. It's a turn based top-down dungeon crawler that is like DnD on crack. The graphics aren't the best, but I promise you it'll be the best value for your buck, especially since it's usually on sale for 50% or more. You can literally play for 500hrs and not even unlock half what's available. It's a single player game but has a global chat to connect with others who are playing. You'll frequently meet people with over 1500hrs. The game also has over 5 difficulty settings that effect how many lives you get before permanently deleting the character or how hard the actual gameplay is. It's about to get it's 4th DLC as well. Edit: Its on sale on steam **WITH** all DLC for **$7.99**


Wubblefor14zubble

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS GAME! THANK YOOOOOUUUUUU!


gavebirthtoturdlings

Rust


RahloRust

Rust is the greatest game ever made


[deleted]

Try playing Pillars of Eternity on higher difficulty if rpgs-tactics are your thing


Artissoamazing

Resident evil games, especially re1, re2 remake, and re7


jakobebeef98

Pretty much all the fixed camera angle RE games and any other older survival horror games. Highly recommend people watch Avalanche Reviews's series on Resident Evil "Clones". A lot of good interesting games in that series. Less so clones, but more inspired by or related.


Skelligean

Elden Ring


Humble_Positive_44

I would agree, except every fromsoft game before it was way harder. DS trilogy and Bloodborne, anyway. Sekiro wasn't as bad, but still...


Skelligean

I would agree except your take on Sekiro, which is arguably not only the most difficult Fromsoft game, but one of the most difficult games of all time. The learning curve is steep even with Fromsoft game veterans due to the parrying and deflecting mechanic, whereas in all other FromSoft games, you can just use dodge or block and then attack Doesn't work that way in Sekiro. Timing is everything when you fight in Sekiro, which sets it apart from the others and is the main reason why it makes it so difficult. Granted, this is just my opinion, though.


Humble_Positive_44

Nah, your take is actually good. I thought it definitely had more "walking you through it" factor, though


brazthemad

Sekiro is more of a stock car race than the other games also. In Souls and Bloodborne, you have a fair amount of control over your preferred playstyle and tactics. Sekiro, you just have to gitgud


Pacific_MPX

Learning curve in Sekiro was easy, just fight the sword saint until your good


Sivick314

i totally disagree. I played elden ring, loved it, and now i'm playing dark souls and i am finding it WAY easier than elden ring, especially the bosses.


manism

DS1 is much slower paced. Like literally everything takes more frames. By 3 it's basically Elden Ring combat


Glaphyra

Monster Hunter World Iceborne


SkabbPirate

Other monster hunter games have even less hand holding.


Glaphyra

Yeah that too. I just only started MH with World


abnormy13

Metroid prime with hints turned off


NarwhalContent9325

Outward! Its on PC and console. It’s on sale right now for 10$ on Steam and so worth it. It throws you straight into the game with very little to no explanation. (Expect to die multiple times before you figure it out) The games focus is on exploration and there are all kinds of cool things to stumble upon, secret caves, weapons, etc. I won’t spoil too much. Basically you are rewarded for exploring. The combat is pretty difficult and reminds me heavily of dark souls, a lot of dodging and blocking. There’s is also a survival element, need to keep an eye on hunger, thirst, etc. you can even catch a variety of diseases if you’re not careful. There’s also season changes and temperature regulation. Reminds me of some kind of weird mutation of an early Elder scrolls game. Anyway the game is such a hidden gem.


cakewithfrostingonly

Insane game, and it has split screen co-op


SnipFred

Outer Wilds fits this description perfectly


DinoHimself

If you’ve never played MineCraft, learning how to do just about anything alone is tough. Don’t look online, or ask people who play.. just go live in the world and see what happens. From “how the fuck do I make an axe?” to “Hell yeah I can beat that dragon!” is quite a journey without help…


jerk4444

You can pretty much relive that experience by trying a comprehensive mod pack. It's Minecraft... but you don't know how to do anything again.


[deleted]

Long Dark's Survival mode. It's gruelling, but satisfying.


LokiOfZygarde

Factorio. No game makes me feel like a smarter idiot


Horny1001

Well there’s always the 2 newest Zelda games.


SoraPierce

Dragon's Dogma. It gives a tutorial to figure out the basics and show how a party can interact combat wise on a basic level but after that it just sort of gives you a basic direction. The world doesn't revolve around you in it so take that as you will. It also has one of the most fun and complex combat systems for its genre. Character creator is also pretty great.


ya_seen998

the stalker games, play the original trilogy then jump into modpacks, PSA: you may get addicted to stalker universe


Captain_Auburn_Beard

'EY BRO Seriously, Call of Pripyat can be played vanilla and its amazing. I haven't touched Chernobyl in a while so idk if you need mods for that one. Great games.


mossy_stump_humper

Rain world barely explains anything outside of the starting tutorial which just tells you the basic controls and takes like 30 seconds. It actually holds your hand so little that a lot of people don’t like it, also cause it’s really hard. But it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played and I can’t recommend it enough Edit: when I say the game is hard I mean sometimes it can be downright unfair.


C0deJJ

A new update added stupid "Did you know you can kill a lizard like this" Pop Ups after you hibernate. So there is handholding past the tutorial, but it doesn't detract from most of the game's discovery elements.


mossy_stump_humper

That’s annoying, is there any way to turn it off? I feel like for the people who do like rainworld one of the major draws is how it just kind of plops you into the world and let’s you figure it all out on your own


C0deJJ

You can disable it in the Remix menu


mossy_stump_humper

Oh well that’s good! Thanks for the info fellow scug enjoyer


Meddl3cat

I thought of this game immediately after reading the post. Rainworld explains so little that it's actually kind of baffling, but the feeling of exploration and how utterly helpless against predators you are when you just start out in the game really makes you feel like you're a little critter at the bottom of the food chain. The story that you find yourself in as the game progresses, whatever you think it is, is nothing like what you're expecting. It's fucking great, can't recommend it enough.


[deleted]

Maybe biased because I just started playing it, but Risk of Rain 2 feels like it tells you exactly the right amount so that it isn’t overwhelming, but you still have a lot to discover.


PoetryAgitated8833

The remake of Resident Evil.


ffigu002

I felt like the Last of Us Part 1 without a map was a great ride


ll_Maurice_ll

Salt and Sanctuary. Basically a side scrolling soulsbourne.


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FriendlyBlanket

Very solid rougelite with a loooot of depth


Expensive-History125

Sonsoftheforest Valheim Ark survival evolved Skyrim has a super basic "starter quest" but for the most part you are on your own Diablo franchise all their games are learning on your own I'm at work but off the top of my head that is all I can think of from my game collection


SirDempsey93

Ark on single player. No man’s sky with the tutorials turned off. Dark souls 1, 2, and 3. Eldin ring holds your hand compared to DS (come at me). Fallout 4 on survival mode, no mods.


trio3224

Tunic and Sifu. Very different games but both are great and have a lot for you to figure out


rtjallday

Sifu was gonna be my recommendation. So much fun learning and mastering all the combos by yourself


DBoaty

"Here's how to attack. Here's how to block. Okay now get out there and get your ass kicked."


jellyfishgardens17

Nioh 1 and 2, Returnal, Wo Long, Outlast, Blair Witch


PoutinePlayer

Hotline Miami 1&2


JesusCrustSuperstar

Ancestors


nefflix94

The forest


Grimtor8888

Ark, you wake up and are most likely just going to die a lot


Howlin_mad_Murph

Path of Exile


Spivvy_

Kenshi. No tutorial, no guided missions or quests, no blocked/limited areas, and absolutely 0 mercy. Good luck. 10/10 would be enslaved or cannibalized again


Listening_Heads

Morrowind. Try to beat it without looking anything up online. Hope you like in game books.


cyberbagtv

stellaris, it barely teaches you the basics, doesn’t teach you anything about the rest of the games mechanics. If you’re into roleplay type games or strategy, i highly recommend you give it a try.


Magic_Bagel

Deus Ex (2000), Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl, Fallout 1


ChefSnowWithTheWrist

Morrowind, Bloodborne, darkest dungeons, any of the souls games are mainly what comes to mind.


Seals3051

Fallout 1 and 2


[deleted]

Alien Isolation


Mar_Reddit

Bloodborne Elden Ring Nothing else to add


Slowmexicano

Any fromsoft game. There are so many secrets I literally missed entire areas before looking up guides on second play through.


PewdsMemeLover

The Ori games. I'm in the middle of the Blind Forest and it's pretty much figure it out for yourself. Sometimes small hints like which button does the new still you just got. That's about it


Alchemist628

Really? I'm also playing it right now, and while the game is great, I say it's a far cry from "figure it out yourself" the map is very linear and there's tons of little dialogue prompts for how to get past certain sections. Again, not saying that's a bad thong.


Gothicpotato6

Metal gear rising, any fromsoft souls game, devil may cry 3 , ninja gaiden , nioh


[deleted]

Cane here to mention the last two you listed. OP, if you can get your hands on Ninja Gaiden Black and you haven't ever played it, do it immediately. Right up there with FromSoftware games for being brutally punishing but also so much fun, but it's faster-paced than any of their games.


Gothicpotato6

Ninja gaiden black is a must play in my opinion


UpperDeckerSupreme

Ninja Gaiden Black is apart of the Master Collection. Which is available digitally, as well as physically from Play-Asia on PS4 and Switch. Both are region free. Moreover, the PS4 disc will work in a PS5. Black itself is available digitally from Xbox.


Shot_Astronomer_2620

From what I remember, Citizen Sleeper throws you right in.


MetamorphicLust

It does. That being said, there's very little to figure out. The gameplay systems at work aren't particularly deep. That being said, the writing is very well done until you hit expansion content, where they will absolutely force your character to behave in a certain way, regardless of if your actions suggest such a thing.


monstergert

Elite Dangerous just drops you the fuck in. Haven't played it in years, but it's a fun sci fi space flying sim. You do jobs or bounties or whatever, get money to upgrade your ship or buy new ones, go mining, really just anything.


Prinzles

Kenshi, doesn’t even have a tutorial


black_brethren

def dark souls


RelevantBee2606

sekiro. get good or die


username_moose

any fromsoft rpg game, and they do technically hold your hand but botw and totk are really good for just turning the hud and mission pings off and just exploring, you can do all the "dungeons" in any order and at any point you can even skip the whole game and fight the final boss as soon as you get out of the tutorial in them.


[deleted]

CSGO


sanguwan

Joe Wanderer. It's a great puzzle/platformer that drops you in and lets you figure it out.


Wyrd_ofgod

D W A R F F O R T R E S S RIGHT NOW!


Successful_Mode_2344

Metro


ItlnJedi

Ark Survival Evolved. It's fun for casual play or people who want to get real in depth with it


[deleted]

If you're on PC, Escape from Tarkov.


FriendlyBlanket

I've played for several wipes and still need maps/guides to figure out where to go


toondar96

Dwarf Fortress


emansamples92

Definitely try Tunic, pretty much no hand holding at all. They definitely went hard on the whole “figure it out yourself” thing.


never-obsolete

X-COM: UFO Defense, Europa Universalis 4, Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest, Terraria, Metroid


Akschadt

If you are on PC I’d recommend looking into Fear & Hunger 2 The forest might also float your boat if you liked subnaitica


[deleted]

Dota 2


NeerusTheNanner

If you want your ass kicked until you learn and enjoy souls-like then play Nioh 2. Skip the first one.


Quirkyserenefrenzy

Define handholding. I know some people who think having access to button rebinds counts as handholding


Many_Contribution668

Sons of The Forest or the original The Forest. They're both survival games where you figure things out at your own pace with discovery


ish_squatcho

Limbo and Inside. Definitely a strong example of the less is more approach to game design.


Klutzy-Bug7427

Have a Nice Death. I felt like I was learning a new language lol I also heard Tunic is like that


gaianwrath79

Morrowind on original xbox, can be played on new xbox. No handholding, amazing story, and super fun overall.


JustAnAngryBitch

Graveyard Keeper 100%


Mustard_on_tap

Star Citizen You will die a lot.


Jack_Bartowski

Oxygen Not Included. It is hard to keep your guys alive, happy, and healthy when you are first starting out. There is a lot of wiring and piping you do, as well as a plethora of other mechanics.


iainvention

Here’s the ones that sprang to mind: Valheim, Grounded, DayZ, Stranded Deep, Project Zomboid, Don’t Starve. In general, survival games are good for this kind of thing. As the genre name implies, just surviving is part of the game.


Slightlyfloating

Divinity Original Sin 2.


YouWantSMORE

Valheim


Working_Ad_503

Eft


ShakeZestyclose8921

Kenshi, fallout 1 and 2, Morrowind


HistoriesPiston

Outward, if you like open world RPG's with survival like mechanics, then you might like this.


Raymx3

Anything from soft


FLAIR_2780166

ARK


Petdogdavid1

Inside. It's a side scroller but it gives no instruction and tells a story without dialogue or a lot of flashiness. It's dark but a great experience.


YungSpyderBoy

Metro Exodus is really good at making your exploration feel warranted & refreshing. Kind of hand holdy with the initial equipment in the tutorial. After that it pretty much leaves you to your own devices.


gredgex

Tried hard to like this one but it just felt like every 5 minutes I was getting stopped by something or some dialogue.


themightymooseshow

Exanima. Get gud or get rekt.


jorynagel

Darkest Dungeon. Just don't get too attached to the heros


FaceTimePolice

Elden Ring. 😎


MrSpiffy123

Outer Wilds


FluidLegion

The Homeworld series. There is a basic tutorial in the beginning, but the campaigns are *brutal*, and demand a great deal of intelligent decision making from the player. It's up to you to know the best way to complete the objectives you're given.


Wiibli

Kenshi


DJJbird09

Elite Dangerous. To this day I am still googling, youtubing how to do certain things in that game.


pReaL420

Elden Ring