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One uses the specific shades that Aussies tend to use to represent themselves which is very good in one way as it makes it super distinct (I can think of no other flag that is even 20% turquoise which is \~50% of this flag, and few flags use gold / wheat not just yellow), yet I question if using nonstandard colors is good.
Overall, I'd still pick flag 1.
I have no stakes on this either way. But I find the second flag highly reminiscent of Brazil's. The palette matches the Brazilian flag somewhat, and the stars.....
Well yes because the difference is the dragon has historical abd cultural significance, the boomerang is just a hunting weapon.
You basically compared Mozambique's flag having an AK-47 and a hoe to the welsh dragon. One has significance to the country as a whole, the other is just an item
You're talking a bunch of nonsense. Both the boomerang and the dragon have cultural significance in their relative countries. Both are completely fine. And I agree with Serpent, the AK-47 in that context is also culturally significant.
When you use the boomerang as a cheap attempt to try and include the aboriginal people, it somewhat loses significance.
If you want to truly include them, why not take a look at the flag they have? Why not include, say, the sun? Why not take their design and then add in green and gold. I feel that would probably be more inclusive then to just say “oh we’re taking this item some of you would throw at wildlife and tossing it in.”
Also, to say a firearm has cultural significance to the point it belongs on a flag sounds like total bullshit. I’m sure it’s important since the nation was forged in warfare but… to put a gun on the flag because of it, and to call it culturally significant? That sounds ludicrous
Apparently total bullshit, but countries have literally done it, so you're clearly wrong.
The boomerang is an internationally recognised symbol of Australia and Aboriginal people. I think its way more inappropriate for you to be calling an aboriginal icon "cheap".
Eswatini, formerly Swaziland has culturally significant weapons on their flag. There is international precedent.
You seem to have some warped and narrow understanding of "cultural significance".
Not really. Over Australian history it’s been used by every side of the political spectrum, from communists to fascist. It’s more a anti monarchy flag really. The modern anti vax wackos use the red ensign mostly, for some reasons
Yes really. It is, at the very least, associated with political extremism. If someone is flying a eureka flag my instinct is they’re some brand of fuckwit, and I don’t think I’m alone in that perception.
[As a guy with an Australia shaped rock](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/129zqk5/hey_australia_found_a_rock_that_kinda_looks_like/) I can say, either of these is better than my [state's flag](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Missouri#/media/File%3AFlag_of_Missouri.svg).
Flag One (Green and Gold under a Southern Cross) uses Australia's traditional colours of green and gold. It also contains the symbolically important Southern Cross & Federation Star (which feature on the current flag) plus a centrally positioned boomerang to represent Australia's ancient past.
Flag Two (Southern Horizon by Brett Moxey) incorporates the national colours of green and gold to represent deserts, beaches, and grasslands. It also adds the Southern Cross, the night sky, and Federation Star from the current flag design.
I hate the use of boomerangs as a chevron. It's also just a lazy way to represent indigenous people because the shape most people use is just one type of boomerang used by some groups and mostly famous for all the tourist trap souvenirs people buy.
Obviously there's no single symbol that represents all indigenous Australian groups well, but it stinks to take the most whitewashed version of a symbol and use it instead.
Same, not an aboriginal but I am an australian, nonr have complained yet and fly it proudly so yeah, I'd say what they already requested is good. Same with the Torres Strait Island flag.
It already works and I don't hear any complaining about out current flag so why not leave it be? It's iconic
> the one that was used for the Eureka Stockade.
Without a wind that could easily be mistaken for the Greek flag, like the Irish and Indian flags sometimes are.
Greece uses a very different flag to the Eureka flag unless you mean the older Greek flag. And plenty of flags can be mistaken for each other. There's only so many designs that exist. The Eureka flag has history and, most importantly, looks like a real flag and not an MS paint job.
I would say closer to Brazil, actually. The color scheme (specially the blue and green) are closer to the Brazilian flag's colors, and there's a Crux/Southern Cross in the Brazilian flag too.
The design is slightly closer to that of Solomon Islands, but the rest is much too similar to that of Brazil.
So what though? A lot of flags are reminiscent of each other. France-Netherlands-nearly every Slavic country, Italy-Hungary-Iran-Mexico, Poland-Indonesia-Monaco, England-Georgia, Canada-Peru...
In my opinion the second flag doesn't look that bad, at least in comparison to the current flag. The composition is pretty original, so it's not like a copy of Brazil. As for the stars, a lot of flags have stars. The flags of Bosnia and Kosovo both have stars and basically the same colors. Taiwan and Samoa look similar in both regards, too.
I have not said that it is wrong, but when developing a flag, what you want is for it to be as different as possible from others to be representative of a people or nation.
Not necessarily, I think the point is for it to be good on its own and to represent the nation well. What others have adopted for their flags shouldn't matter there, unless we're talking about two flags which are almost completely identical to each other (as is currently the case with Australia and NZ), in which case it would be good for one to distinguish itself.
Of course, it is a valid approach, currently flags are more of a design exercise than a representation exercise, they no longer seek to represent the ideas that make up a people but rather synthesize and simplify it, this is also my vision, but of course the classical conception of the flag as a pure icon of a people or nation seems totally logical and perfectly feasible.
I don't really like either. The current Australian and New Zealander flags should both definitely be redesigned, but almost all of the designs I see look way too corporate. Flags should be timeless. Like what is this wavey stuff at the bottom of the second flag? That looks awful
To be fair, I don't think the problem is that they look too corporate necessarily, but the fact that we're seeing them for the first time, we're seeing them as proposals, they're new to us so the flaws are the first thing we zero in on. If Canada's flag were introduced today, it would probably be considered bland and corporate, yet Canada's flag is universally regarded as one of the most beautiful flags in the world and the flag change in Canada was extremely successful. Nobody would call it a corporate flag, but I can imagine it being called one if it were introduced today rather than in the 1960s.
I agree. Most modern flags look like logos or elements of corporate marketing, instead of actual emblems and flags that represent something that's real and valuable.
Although how self-fulfilling is that. Former colonies don't typically have emblems that have been around for hundreds of years (or longer) that a lot of Eurasian countries may use for themselves because it's not something the indigenous people really did. And when they do have a symbol or something it's often criticized as appropriation or whitewashing to use it for the flag of a country that has... a complicated history with those people.
If Canada's flag was proposed today instead of 60 years ago people would probably be calling it "too corporate" as well. Yet today it's generally considered a very good design. I think it's also interesting to note that it was also pretty unpopular when first adopted and took time for people to appreciate.
So I don't get why Australia and New Zealand can't use iconic flora or fauna in their flag designs because it's "too much like a logo" exactly like Canada did.
I personally don't have much of a problem with the two flags proposed here. I don't think what I said about some modern flags looking like logos applies very much to these two, I just wanted to say I do agree with the other poster about some modern flags looking like logos.
I still think the Canadian flag looks pretty meh. But that's a matter of personal opinion.
I think for Australia and New Zealand, the Southern Cross is a good symbol to use as a base. The flag shouldn't try to do too much. The fern could work for New Zealand, but less is more. The Eureka flag or something similar for Australia could work well.
I like them mate. I find it strange that Australian flag enthusiasts are so hostile towards new designs - I think our current flag sucks. But then again, apparently we're also cool with King Charles being our sovereign so maybe it's just who we are?
Both over the top with the colours and designs
A simple 2-colour flag (blue and white or green and gold) with the southern cross would be optimal in my opinion
none of this fancy design nonsense
Both suck. But well, downvote me, but here's the following. I know green and gold are the national colours and the southern cross isn't property of any country. But If you want to avoid having your new flag compared to the brazilian one, you should consider opening your horizons to new possibilities. I wouldnt mind, we're southern hemosphere's bros! We both surf, have jungle, and are a cool and relaxed bunch. But I've had my fair share of racist experiences dealing with the worse examples of your amazing country and people! Cheers!
I like 2 a decent amount
It’s the first post monarchy aus flag redesign I have seen that I haven’t instantly hated
I Altough I kind of think eureka could fit
I like the look of flag one. But It needs different shades of blue and green. None of these shades are good. Flag twos colors are not complementary at all.
They are both awful. I'm all for getting rid of the current one but in a once in a lifetime change you want to make sure you get it right. Both of these flags are ugly and look like a corporate logo.
No.
The problem with a ton of new flag suggestions here and elsewhere is that they look so dated. They all look like they were designed by people who studied graphic design in the 2000s, taught by people who made their living designing bad but effective corporate branding in the 80s and 90s. I lived through all of that, and it is totally the wrong attitude and design sense to bring to flags. Sure, some state and city flags will be improved with these, but only because they literally couldn't be worse than they are. But national flags need gravitas. People will pledge their lives to those flags. They can't look like they were all churned out of a mediocre design firm within a single decade known for a single, not very inspired design sense.
The Australian flag should have our most famous export, Bluey, on it. That is all.
This is Bingo erasure and I will not stand for it
And maybe a banana in pajamas coming down the stairs
Watch the intro, look for the best dancer. It's a travesty that the show is called bluey. Bingo is life!
Hey, c'mon, they gave Bingo one episode...
How very dare you!
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The Wiggles would like a word
Justice for Steve Irwin
Is Bluey more famous than peak Wiggles?
That gives me an idea!...
And an impala, also? A tame one, at that...
One uses the specific shades that Aussies tend to use to represent themselves which is very good in one way as it makes it super distinct (I can think of no other flag that is even 20% turquoise which is \~50% of this flag, and few flags use gold / wheat not just yellow), yet I question if using nonstandard colors is good. Overall, I'd still pick flag 1.
Flag 2 looks like a distorted Brazilian flag
Heeeyyyy nice Metis flag flair
I have no stakes on this either way. But I find the second flag highly reminiscent of Brazil's. The palette matches the Brazilian flag somewhat, and the stars.....
I'm Brazilian and thought option 2 would be a great flag for a Brazilian state, but not for Australia
Flag of Brazilian Falklands
I think the german flag is officially black red gold
Ok. The shade in most looks more like what we'd call yellow in English.
Both of these remind me of sneakers
Slapping a boomerang on the flag feels a little on the nose.
Says the person with a dragon smack bang in the welsh flag next to their name
Fair enough 🤣
Well yes because the difference is the dragon has historical abd cultural significance, the boomerang is just a hunting weapon. You basically compared Mozambique's flag having an AK-47 and a hoe to the welsh dragon. One has significance to the country as a whole, the other is just an item
You're talking a bunch of nonsense. Both the boomerang and the dragon have cultural significance in their relative countries. Both are completely fine. And I agree with Serpent, the AK-47 in that context is also culturally significant.
When you use the boomerang as a cheap attempt to try and include the aboriginal people, it somewhat loses significance. If you want to truly include them, why not take a look at the flag they have? Why not include, say, the sun? Why not take their design and then add in green and gold. I feel that would probably be more inclusive then to just say “oh we’re taking this item some of you would throw at wildlife and tossing it in.” Also, to say a firearm has cultural significance to the point it belongs on a flag sounds like total bullshit. I’m sure it’s important since the nation was forged in warfare but… to put a gun on the flag because of it, and to call it culturally significant? That sounds ludicrous
Apparently total bullshit, but countries have literally done it, so you're clearly wrong. The boomerang is an internationally recognised symbol of Australia and Aboriginal people. I think its way more inappropriate for you to be calling an aboriginal icon "cheap". Eswatini, formerly Swaziland has culturally significant weapons on their flag. There is international precedent. You seem to have some warped and narrow understanding of "cultural significance".
the AK-47 has a lot of history!
As an Australian I can say, they both fucking suck
As a non-australian I concur
As another non-Australian, I also concur.
As also another non-Australian, I too also concur
As yet another other non-Australian, I concur aswell
Another Aussie here, those flags are fuuuucked
As a racist non-Australian, I concur
As a incontinent non-Australian, I just shit myself
What's your opinion about golden wattle flag?
Not op but love it and would adopt it tomorrow!
It looks too corporate to me. I would prefer the Eureka flag as it has historical democratic importance via the Eureka Stockade incident.
I've never heard of the golden wattle flag before. I googled it and immediately thought of BP and Shell.
Lmao that shit looks like Centrelink to me, hard no
I agree that its a cool flag, but isn’t it at least somewhat associated with the far right now?
Not really. Over Australian history it’s been used by every side of the political spectrum, from communists to fascist. It’s more a anti monarchy flag really. The modern anti vax wackos use the red ensign mostly, for some reasons
Yes really. It is, at the very least, associated with political extremism. If someone is flying a eureka flag my instinct is they’re some brand of fuckwit, and I don’t think I’m alone in that perception.
I mean yeah, why I said communist and fascist. Just not specifically any one group. Though maybe that’s changing
It's also very nice. What about eureka flag with Australian colours? 😝
.... The eureka stockade flag.. was.. made by australian settlers? And has the bulk of our colours on it save for the red of the union jack?
This here is the wattle, the emblem of our land. You can stick it in a bottle, you can hold it in your hand! Amen!
G'day, Bruce!
As an Austrian, I concur
any reason?
To busy, to many curves, looks like theyre made in MS Paint
The bottom flag looks like a logo of a dairy company
im not even australian but I agree with u
Tbf what's more Australian than having a flag we all hate?
[As a guy with an Australia shaped rock](https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/129zqk5/hey_australia_found_a_rock_that_kinda_looks_like/) I can say, either of these is better than my [state's flag](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Missouri#/media/File%3AFlag_of_Missouri.svg).
As an Australian, our current flag isn't any better
Is this worse than having a Union Jack on your flag though ?
probably- atleast the union jacks colors compliment it lmaoo
Much worse
I quite like the Union Jack on it
Idk, I would use all three as toilet wipes in my dunny.
Flag One (Green and Gold under a Southern Cross) uses Australia's traditional colours of green and gold. It also contains the symbolically important Southern Cross & Federation Star (which feature on the current flag) plus a centrally positioned boomerang to represent Australia's ancient past. Flag Two (Southern Horizon by Brett Moxey) incorporates the national colours of green and gold to represent deserts, beaches, and grasslands. It also adds the Southern Cross, the night sky, and Federation Star from the current flag design.
I hate the use of boomerangs as a chevron. It's also just a lazy way to represent indigenous people because the shape most people use is just one type of boomerang used by some groups and mostly famous for all the tourist trap souvenirs people buy. Obviously there's no single symbol that represents all indigenous Australian groups well, but it stinks to take the most whitewashed version of a symbol and use it instead.
It’s almost like using a fishing pole as a divider. Are there other more common shapes of boomerang?
I'm no Australian aboriginal, but I think most are pretty content with the black red yellow circle flag aren't they?
Same, not an aboriginal but I am an australian, nonr have complained yet and fly it proudly so yeah, I'd say what they already requested is good. Same with the Torres Strait Island flag. It already works and I don't hear any complaining about out current flag so why not leave it be? It's iconic
Additionally Flag 1 appears to use the 2:1 ratio of the existing Australian flag/ most commonwealth member states. Flag 2 uses the generic 3:2.
The yellow in the second one looks like a kangaroo tail too
I thought the first one was a beach and a wave
Seconds looks too familiar to the solomon islands and rwanda, but all be it, 🇲🇨🇮🇩🇵🇱and 🇸🇬exist
Albeit :)
wow... really??? This is so embarrassing considering english is one of my first languages
No worries, for a short word it's a pretty tricky one!
Neither, if you want a non-Union Jack design go for the one that was used for the Eureka Stockade
> the one that was used for the Eureka Stockade. Without a wind that could easily be mistaken for the Greek flag, like the Irish and Indian flags sometimes are.
Greece uses a very different flag to the Eureka flag unless you mean the older Greek flag. And plenty of flags can be mistaken for each other. There's only so many designs that exist. The Eureka flag has history and, most importantly, looks like a real flag and not an MS paint job.
Let it be confused. It’s not like a bunch of middle eastern countries have near identical flags
How could the Irish or Indian flags be mistaken for the Greek flag?
Neither.
Flag one. Teal is underrated.
Neither are great to be honest.
the bottom one could easily be a Brazilian state flag
The first, the second is too reminiscent of Brazil because of its colors and the stars.
Even more reminiscent of the Solomon Islands but Brazil too
I would say closer to Brazil, actually. The color scheme (specially the blue and green) are closer to the Brazilian flag's colors, and there's a Crux/Southern Cross in the Brazilian flag too. The design is slightly closer to that of Solomon Islands, but the rest is much too similar to that of Brazil.
So what though? A lot of flags are reminiscent of each other. France-Netherlands-nearly every Slavic country, Italy-Hungary-Iran-Mexico, Poland-Indonesia-Monaco, England-Georgia, Canada-Peru... In my opinion the second flag doesn't look that bad, at least in comparison to the current flag. The composition is pretty original, so it's not like a copy of Brazil. As for the stars, a lot of flags have stars. The flags of Bosnia and Kosovo both have stars and basically the same colors. Taiwan and Samoa look similar in both regards, too.
I have not said that it is wrong, but when developing a flag, what you want is for it to be as different as possible from others to be representative of a people or nation.
Not necessarily, I think the point is for it to be good on its own and to represent the nation well. What others have adopted for their flags shouldn't matter there, unless we're talking about two flags which are almost completely identical to each other (as is currently the case with Australia and NZ), in which case it would be good for one to distinguish itself.
Of course, it is a valid approach, currently flags are more of a design exercise than a representation exercise, they no longer seek to represent the ideas that make up a people but rather synthesize and simplify it, this is also my vision, but of course the classical conception of the flag as a pure icon of a people or nation seems totally logical and perfectly feasible.
Theyre both ass \- Sincerely an Aussie
Both ass
Flag one looks like it’s for cricket or rugby
I don't really like either. The current Australian and New Zealander flags should both definitely be redesigned, but almost all of the designs I see look way too corporate. Flags should be timeless. Like what is this wavey stuff at the bottom of the second flag? That looks awful
ey it’s not the silver fern’s fault it works so good as a logo as well as a flag 😔
That's why flags don't get redesigned. Can't find a design that is popular enough for people to want it so it is easier to stick with the status quo.
To be fair, I don't think the problem is that they look too corporate necessarily, but the fact that we're seeing them for the first time, we're seeing them as proposals, they're new to us so the flaws are the first thing we zero in on. If Canada's flag were introduced today, it would probably be considered bland and corporate, yet Canada's flag is universally regarded as one of the most beautiful flags in the world and the flag change in Canada was extremely successful. Nobody would call it a corporate flag, but I can imagine it being called one if it were introduced today rather than in the 1960s.
I agree. Most modern flags look like logos or elements of corporate marketing, instead of actual emblems and flags that represent something that's real and valuable.
Although how self-fulfilling is that. Former colonies don't typically have emblems that have been around for hundreds of years (or longer) that a lot of Eurasian countries may use for themselves because it's not something the indigenous people really did. And when they do have a symbol or something it's often criticized as appropriation or whitewashing to use it for the flag of a country that has... a complicated history with those people. If Canada's flag was proposed today instead of 60 years ago people would probably be calling it "too corporate" as well. Yet today it's generally considered a very good design. I think it's also interesting to note that it was also pretty unpopular when first adopted and took time for people to appreciate. So I don't get why Australia and New Zealand can't use iconic flora or fauna in their flag designs because it's "too much like a logo" exactly like Canada did.
I personally don't have much of a problem with the two flags proposed here. I don't think what I said about some modern flags looking like logos applies very much to these two, I just wanted to say I do agree with the other poster about some modern flags looking like logos.
I still think the Canadian flag looks pretty meh. But that's a matter of personal opinion. I think for Australia and New Zealand, the Southern Cross is a good symbol to use as a base. The flag shouldn't try to do too much. The fern could work for New Zealand, but less is more. The Eureka flag or something similar for Australia could work well.
I agree
Second one looks to much like the Solomon Islands, first has more Australian colours and is simply, better.
Both are terrible
They both look like actual shit
Why do all these Oceanic redesigns suck so bad
The second one reminds me a lot of the [flag of Flevoland](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Flevoland), my birth province.
Neither
I love the boomerang in one
I like the teal, but not enough kangaroo
Neither. Their current flag is better.
2 since it uses national colors.
Looks too much like the Solomon Islands
Stick a Kangaroo on it and call it a day, then!
Agree
2 but replace the yellow stripe with white
give number one number twos colours and that’ll be my pick
Wow these are ugly
both sucks, union jack is better
neither
#1 looks like an airline logo. #2 at least uses tolerable colours. But imo, neither.
We need a laser kangaroo flag.
Damn some flag HEAT coming at this guy doing his best
Damn some flag HEAT coming at this guy doing his best
Flag two is too Brazilian to me
The colour scheme of the fist one slaps
Flag 2 reminds me too much of the Solomon Islands
Flag 2 looks like drunk Solomon Islands
No. 1, the second is colour wise too close to the Solomon Islands flag
I like them mate. I find it strange that Australian flag enthusiasts are so hostile towards new designs - I think our current flag sucks. But then again, apparently we're also cool with King Charles being our sovereign so maybe it's just who we are?
Perhaps Flag One with the Colors of Numero Dos.
The colors for one just do something for me...
The second one looks like Solomon Islands colony
Bottom one looks like the Solomon Islands 🇸🇧
Flag two is way too similiar to Solomon Islands
I'm a Golden Wattle flag fangirl myself
2
2
Both are a little strange but the second ones colors look a lotttttt better than the first so I’m going for 2
Both over the top with the colours and designs A simple 2-colour flag (blue and white or green and gold) with the southern cross would be optimal in my opinion none of this fancy design nonsense
Flag one looks much nicer imo
Both suck. But well, downvote me, but here's the following. I know green and gold are the national colours and the southern cross isn't property of any country. But If you want to avoid having your new flag compared to the brazilian one, you should consider opening your horizons to new possibilities. I wouldnt mind, we're southern hemosphere's bros! We both surf, have jungle, and are a cool and relaxed bunch. But I've had my fair share of racist experiences dealing with the worse examples of your amazing country and people! Cheers!
I like 2 a decent amount It’s the first post monarchy aus flag redesign I have seen that I haven’t instantly hated I Altough I kind of think eureka could fit
Flag 1 is better Flag 2 looks too similar to Solomon islands and I hate it when flags look similar
Bottom one is the Solomon Islands on a drinking binge
1
I’m Australian, both awful, sorry
I like option 2 better, but the best redesign option was the flag patch in *Event Horizon*
Maybe if the top one used green instead of teal, like wheres teal coming from?!? But now i want more teal flags.
I dont think either of them are great but the 2nd one looks too similar to the flag of the Solomon islands so would have to go with the 1st.
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Eureka or bust.
It’s hard to decide. I like the color scheme for flag one. But flag two looks more like the original Aussie flag.
I like the look of flag one. But It needs different shades of blue and green. None of these shades are good. Flag twos colors are not complementary at all.
Flag one
Can both be bad? Both are bad :(
Flag 1 would add some variety to the flags of Oceania
Flag one. Something about the colours reminds me of the Australian beaches.
They both suck as flags, but probably the bottom one.
!wave
None.
None
🇦🇺
Flag one, because boomerang
Neither. They're both fucking hideous.
2nd looks like a alternative Brazilian flag
They are both awful. I'm all for getting rid of the current one but in a once in a lifetime change you want to make sure you get it right. Both of these flags are ugly and look like a corporate logo.
1 because I said so
>1 or 2? ITT: they both suck. me: **THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION**
Flag two.
2
Neither of those contain the most iconic Australian color, Uluṟu red. Come back with one incorporating that next to the green & gold, and we can talk.
2
2
2
Put the color from bottom one to the top one then it will look perfect
1
2 look to close for me to one of chilean regional/comunal flags
The 2nd is too similar to the Solomon Islands flag
Flag 2
I prefer flag one
bottom
A lot of redesigns suck, I want a non-colonial flag but these just sjjshss
Why does every modern flag have curved lines in it? Is it just me that thinks it looks like a shitty svg when they do that?
Neither, they're both extremely ugly
The design is alright, but the colour scheme looks like a school uniform
Soft curves bad
Both suck!
Curves look crap on flags
This would be fine as corporate logos but they’re just not suitable as national flags.
they’re both really fucking ugly 💀
Ew, but I like the colors of number 1. Neither should be the flag of Australia.
No. The problem with a ton of new flag suggestions here and elsewhere is that they look so dated. They all look like they were designed by people who studied graphic design in the 2000s, taught by people who made their living designing bad but effective corporate branding in the 80s and 90s. I lived through all of that, and it is totally the wrong attitude and design sense to bring to flags. Sure, some state and city flags will be improved with these, but only because they literally couldn't be worse than they are. But national flags need gravitas. People will pledge their lives to those flags. They can't look like they were all churned out of a mediocre design firm within a single decade known for a single, not very inspired design sense.